If we ban guns will criminals still have guns?

[TheCrusader]

In other countries that ban guns the answer tends to be NO.

Guns are not in so high of a demand that there is enough money to generate a black market and smuggling operation to subvert a prohibition on guns.

Drugs have TREMENDOUS demand.

How many people do you know really need to get out and shoot some soda cans versus how many people smoke weed?

Do you think those soda can shooters are going to pay black market prices and risk prison to shoot soda cans?

There just isn't' the demand to support subversion of gun prohibition.

So if guns were banned in the US, criminals would lose their access to guns.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Criminals would lose their access to guns EVENTUALLY. But not immediately. As things stand, there are over 400 million guns in this country. Criminals would not lose access to guns in our lifetimes.

So the best argument pro-gun activists have is that our insane gun culture has so thoroughly flooded this country with guns, that the only possible defense against criminals is to have a gun of your own.

So we don't really have a solution.

 

[TheCrusader]

Criminals would lose their access to guns EVENTUALLY. But not immediately. As things stand, there are over 400 million guns in this country. Criminals would not lose access to guns in our lifetimes.

So the best argument pro-gun activists have is that our insane gun culture has so thoroughly flooded this country with guns, that the only possible defense against criminals is to have a gun of your own.

So we don't really have a solution.

We do have a solution, just stop listening to gun-nuts.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Criminals would lose their access to guns EVENTUALLY. But not immediately. As things stand, there are over 400 million guns in this country. Criminals would not lose access to guns in our lifetimes.

So the best argument pro-gun activists have is that our insane gun culture has so thoroughly flooded this country with guns, that the only possible defense against criminals is to have a gun of your own.

So we don't really have a solution.

We do have a solution, just stop listening to gun-nuts.

Yup gun nuts are terrible people. But we're decades away from that being a possibility.

 

[westwall]

In other countries that ban guns the answer tends to be NO.

Guns are not in so high of a demand that there is enough money to generate a black market and smuggling operation to subvert a prohibition on guns.

Drugs have TREMENDOUS demand.

How many people do you know really need to get out and shoot some soda cans versus how many people smoke weed?

Do you think those soda can shooters are going to pay black market prices and risk prison to shoot soda cans?

There just isn't' the demand to support subversion of gun prohibition.

So if guns were banned in the US, criminals would lose their access to guns.

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

 

[TheCrusader]

In other countries that ban guns the answer tends to be NO.

Guns are not in so high of a demand that there is enough money to generate a black market and smuggling operation to subvert a prohibition on guns.

Drugs have TREMENDOUS demand.

How many people do you know really need to get out and shoot some soda cans versus how many people smoke weed?

Do you think those soda can shooters are going to pay black market prices and risk prison to shoot soda cans?

There just isn't' the demand to support subversion of gun prohibition.

So if guns were banned in the US, criminals would lose their access to guns.

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

 

[BULLDOG]

We banned murder and rape, but murders and rapists still exist. I guess those laws should be done away with too.

 

[westwall]

In other countries that ban guns the answer tends to be NO.

Guns are not in so high of a demand that there is enough money to generate a black market and smuggling operation to subvert a prohibition on guns.

Drugs have TREMENDOUS demand.

How many people do you know really need to get out and shoot some soda cans versus how many people smoke weed?

Do you think those soda can shooters are going to pay black market prices and risk prison to shoot soda cans?

There just isn't' the demand to support subversion of gun prohibition.

So if guns were banned in the US, criminals would lose their access to guns.

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

 

[TheCrusader]

In other countries that ban guns the answer tends to be NO.

Guns are not in so high of a demand that there is enough money to generate a black market and smuggling operation to subvert a prohibition on guns.

Drugs have TREMENDOUS demand.

How many people do you know really need to get out and shoot some soda cans versus how many people smoke weed?

Do you think those soda can shooters are going to pay black market prices and risk prison to shoot soda cans?

There just isn't' the demand to support subversion of gun prohibition.

So if guns were banned in the US, criminals would lose their access to guns.

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

In other countries that ban guns the answer tends to be NO.

Guns are not in so high of a demand that there is enough money to generate a black market and smuggling operation to subvert a prohibition on guns.

Drugs have TREMENDOUS demand.

How many people do you know really need to get out and shoot some soda cans versus how many people smoke weed?

Do you think those soda can shooters are going to pay black market prices and risk prison to shoot soda cans?

There just isn't' the demand to support subversion of gun prohibition.

So if guns were banned in the US, criminals would lose their access to guns.

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

 

[BULLDOG]

In other countries that ban guns the answer tends to be NO.

Guns are not in so high of a demand that there is enough money to generate a black market and smuggling operation to subvert a prohibition on guns.

Drugs have TREMENDOUS demand.

How many people do you know really need to get out and shoot some soda cans versus how many people smoke weed?

Do you think those soda can shooters are going to pay black market prices and risk prison to shoot soda cans?

There just isn't' the demand to support subversion of gun prohibition.

So if guns were banned in the US, criminals would lose their access to guns.

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

What changed seven years ago to scare so many into thinking they needed to be armed 24/7? People who pranced around with guns in public were considered unstable. I fear that most who do it today are still unstable.

 

[Gracie]

Of course criminals will have guns. It's what they do. Illegally. I guess we will all have to be criminals just to be able to protect ourselves.

 

[TheCrusader]

In other countries that ban guns the answer tends to be NO.

Guns are not in so high of a demand that there is enough money to generate a black market and smuggling operation to subvert a prohibition on guns.

Drugs have TREMENDOUS demand.

How many people do you know really need to get out and shoot some soda cans versus how many people smoke weed?

Do you think those soda can shooters are going to pay black market prices and risk prison to shoot soda cans?

There just isn't' the demand to support subversion of gun prohibition.

So if guns were banned in the US, criminals would lose their access to guns.

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

The fractional fraction etc. used to harm people in the US, is harming a lot more per capita than in other countries, because of how easy it is to get guns in the US.

Why do you need to OWN a gun?

Why not rent one from a range to shoot or hunt?

Are you being attacked daily?

 

[Gracie]

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

What changed seven years ago to scare so many into thinking they needed to be armed 24/7? People who pranced around with guns in public were considered unstable. I fear that most who do it today are still unstable.

What about the ones that don't prance around, are trying to mind their own business and keep their family safe but may be poor so live in a dangerous neighborhood? Do you consider them unstable? Or prepared to defend their own?

 

[Gracie]

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

The fractional fraction etc. used to harm people in the US, is harming a lot more per capita than in other countries, because of how easy it is to get guns in the US.

Why do you need to OWN a gun?

Why not rent one from a range to shoot or hunt?

Are you being attacked daily?

Oh, excuse me Mr Robber/Rapist/Thug...wait here while I go rent a gun so I can stop you from killing me or my family, ok?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Bullshit. France has more illegal guns than legal ones. Japan has more illegal guns than legal ones and the Yakuza quite literally have more than they need. You truly are a stupid moron if you believe this crap.

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

The fractional fraction etc. used to harm people in the US, is harming a lot more per capita than in other countries, because of how easy it is to get guns in the US.

Why do you need to OWN a gun?

Why not rent one from a range to shoot or hunt?

Are you being attacked daily?

I have a Constitutional RIGHT to own carry and possess firearms. You do NOT have a right to demand I not own them nor that I license them or only use them from a range that YOU want the Government to control. As for why? Why do you need to vote? Why do you need the right of freedom of speech? Why do you need the protection of the 5th amendment? It is NONE of your business why I chose to exercise one of my RIGHTS.

 

[TheCrusader]

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

The fractional fraction etc. used to harm people in the US, is harming a lot more per capita than in other countries, because of how easy it is to get guns in the US.

Why do you need to OWN a gun?

Why not rent one from a range to shoot or hunt?

Are you being attacked daily?

I have a Constitutional RIGHT to own carry and possess firearms. You do NOT have a right to demand I not own them nor that I license them or only use them from a range that YOU want the Government to control. As for why? Why do you need to vote? Why do you need the right of freedom of speech? Why do you need the protection of the 5th amendment? It is NONE of your business why I chose to exercise one of my RIGHTS.

We used to have a RIGHT to own slaves, didn't make it right. Once slavery stopped making economic sense, the moral argument won.

Guns no longer even make a moral sense...there's just NO use for them anymore.

 

[TheCrusader]

If you illegalize something of course there will be more illegal ones than legal ones.

Why don't you tell us how many there actually are.

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

The fractional fraction etc. used to harm people in the US, is harming a lot more per capita than in other countries, because of how easy it is to get guns in the US.

Why do you need to OWN a gun?

Why not rent one from a range to shoot or hunt?

Are you being attacked daily?

Oh, excuse me Mr Robber/Rapist/Thug...wait here while I go rent a gun so I can stop you from killing me or my family, ok?

Oh I'll wait for you to run home and get your gun out of your safe you responsible gun owner, perhaps a gang will just knife you in the back when you aren't expecting it and steal your gun and use it to rob a liquor store.

These what-ifs are so fun!

 

[westwall]

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

The fractional fraction etc. used to harm people in the US, is harming a lot more per capita than in other countries, because of how easy it is to get guns in the US.

Why do you need to OWN a gun?

Why not rent one from a range to shoot or hunt?

Are you being attacked daily?

I have a Constitutional RIGHT to own carry and possess firearms. You do NOT have a right to demand I not own them nor that I license them or only use them from a range that YOU want the Government to control. As for why? Why do you need to vote? Why do you need the right of freedom of speech? Why do you need the protection of the 5th amendment? It is NONE of your business why I chose to exercise one of my RIGHTS.

We used to have a RIGHT to own slaves, didn't make it right. Once slavery stopped making economic sense, the moral argument won.

Guns no longer even make a moral sense...there's just NO use for them anymore.

No, we didn't. Slave ownership is nowhere listed as a Right. Moron.

 

[westwall]

In Japan over 100,000. In France over 130,000 and the majority of those are machineguns. Furthermore the death toll for TWO European mass killings eclipses ALL of the US mass killings over the last two decades. Gun laws only make it easier to murder good people.

So how many people are dying to gun violence in those countries per capita compared to the US percapita?

You understand that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of firearms in this country are used to harm people right? That in fact as firearm ownership goes UP crime has been going DOWN? That murders are down accidental deaths are DOWN? That the vast MAJORITY of crimes committed with firearms are by gangs in the inner cities? Mostly where it is already illegal to own firearms? That in EVERY single State that has passed open carry there has been no upswing in violence no upswing in shootings no upswing in murder? And that the left claims loudly every time a new State passes the same laws that there will be a wild west shoot out in the streets?

That EVERY single time there is a shooting in Europe it is with illegal firearms in Countries where it is nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get firearms? That a total ban in France did not save hundreds of persons from shootings? That in fact the shooters had full automatic firearms to boot?

The fractional fraction etc. used to harm people in the US, is harming a lot more per capita than in other countries, because of how easy it is to get guns in the US.

Why do you need to OWN a gun?

Why not rent one from a range to shoot or hunt?

Are you being attacked daily?

Oh, excuse me Mr Robber/Rapist/Thug...wait here while I go rent a gun so I can stop you from killing me or my family, ok?

Oh I'll wait for you to run home and get your gun out of your safe you responsible gun owner, perhaps a gang will just knife you in the back when you aren't expecting it and steal your gun and use it to rob a liquor store.

These what-ifs are so fun!

You mean like this one? There are THOUSANDS more videos like this....