Zone1 If we worship One God...

[ding]

The flaw in your thinking is you believe you can actually know what that first cause was

We can use our understanding of matter and energy and logic to describe it. Logically the only thing that can be eternal is something that is unchanging. From our understanding of matter and energy, matter and energy are not unchanging. So logically matter and energy cannot be an eternal source of creating universes. Which means that whatever the eternal unchanging source is it can't be energy or matter. Hence the only "thing" it could be would be something which is incorporeal which is in reality no "thing". Spirit is no thing. God is spirit.

 

[BreezeWood]

I think if you lack faith, his presence won't be in the host. But if you have faith, He will be, if for no other reason than you believe in him. It's quite powerful.

faith is more powerful than being a sinner - sinner. might try not being the latter than live w/ your self delusion.

 

[BreezeWood]

KJV And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Which translation are you reading from because if God said life in our likeness it's contrary to the Christian Bible and
and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Rev 22:19

you obviously have a reading impairment that needs addressing -

(we) will remember our covenant between us and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, we will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth."

the above is the heavenly correct version - in the c-bible (I) to (we) is all that needed to be corrected from that book of forgeries and fallacies ...

and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

beware frankenstein your fate as that of moses.

provide the original documents for anything written in the christian bible as there is no archive for the material they used to write their book in the 4th century that is a deliberate omission by the crucifiers for themselves to write their version of events than the true 1st century events jesus and those people died for - the renunciation of judaism and the liar moses. and reiteration of the heavenly religion of antiquity.

Then God said, “Let us make life in our image, in our likeness, the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky the livestock and all the wild animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground.”

the true heavenly version of their creation.

 

[BreezeWood]

Incorrect. Red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations and the Second Law of Thermodynamics tells us that space and time did have a beginning.

the bb is cyclical, the universe is eternal - is correct.

 

[Frankenstein]

you obviously have a reading impairment that needs addressing -



the above is the heavenly correct version - in the c-bible (I) to (we) is all that needed to be corrected from that book of forgeries and fallacies ...





beware frankenstein your fate as that of moses.

provide the original documents for anything written in the christian bible as there is no archive for the material they used to write their book in the 4th century that is a deliberate omission by the crucifiers for themselves to write their version of events than the true 1st century events jesus and those people died for - the renunciation of judaism and the liar moses. and reiteration of the heavenly religion of antiquity.



the true heavenly version of their creation.

You just go ahead and believe what you want!

 

[Cougarbear]

Yeah OK

That's the same meaningless tripe that all religious people spout.

The fact is humans invented the gods they worship and imbued them with all kinds of personality traits that they think a god should have.

And all that other tripe is just the creation story made up in the Iron Age

All religions? Not even close. Name one that teaches any of what I wrote other than The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
You have no proof of your assertion. Just the same atheist rhetoric.

 

[Cougarbear]

It is 100% true. Body AND blood of Christ.

So, only the priest drinks the blood of a dead person. Sick. No, it was an analogy plain and simple.

 

[Cougarbear]

I have. I think you are the one who hasn't.

Haven’t missed the lies. The illness of thinking one can have power to control the Lord, pull him off his thrown thousands of times a day and make him die all over again.

 

[Cougarbear]

Incorrect. Red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations and the Second Law of Thermodynamics tells us that space and time did have a beginning. If the universe is expanding then it must have a beginning. If you follow it backwards in time, then any object must come to a boundary of space time. You cannot continue that history indefinitely.

Inflation Theory, the First Law of Thermodynamics and quantum mechanics tells us that it is possible for matter to have a beginning. In a closed universe the gravitational energy which is always negative exactly compensates the positive energy of matter. So the energy of a closed universe is always zero. So nothing prevents this universe from being spontaneously created. Because the net energy is always zero. The positive energy of matter is balanced by the negative energy of the gravity of that matter which is the space time curvature of that matter. There is no conservation law that prevents the formation of such a universe. In quantum mechanics if something is not forbidden by conservation laws, then it necessarily happens with some non-zero probability. So a closed universe can spontaneously appear - through the laws of quantum mechanics - out of nothing. And in fact there is an elegant mathematical description which describes this process and shows that a tiny closed universe having very high energy can spontaneously pop into existence and immediately start to expand and cool. In this description, the same laws that describe the evolution of the universe also describe the appearance of the universe which means that the laws were in place before the universe itself.

And where did the matter for a big bang originate from? Where did the energy that formed the Big Bang originate from? Didn’t come from nothing. That’s a Catholic teaching that got placed into the Bible if it’s there. Just like eating actual flesh and drinking human blood. And, there a plenty of other physicists who have other theories. None of it is finite.

 

[Cougarbear]

...why bash the worship of others by attacking their faith, religious denomination, or the ways they worship?

Is it wrong to question your religion and those of others? No.

 

[Meriweather]

Is it wrong to question your religion and those of others? No.

It is pointless to ask a question unless one intends to listen attentively to the answer given.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You'd shit all over Greek philosophy just because you hate Christians?

No, I am a normal, educated person not handicapped by inability to think deeper than the most shallow and petty level. You might not understand.

You must think the universe is made up of four elements, my little Greek philosophy fanboi.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So, only the priest drinks the blood of a dead person. Sick. No, it was an analogy plain and simple.

Nah, the ignorant, superstitious people that invented this nonsense absolutely believed in magical transmutation.

It was no analogy. It was primitive people believing primitive things.

 

[Cougarbear]

It is pointless to ask a question unless one intends to listen attentively to the answer given.

It’s also pointless to assume someone didn’t read attentively to the question or the answer to your question.

 

[Meriweather]

It’s also pointless to assume someone didn’t read attentively to the question or the answer to your question.

You missed the point. So never mind.

 

[Cougarbear]

You missed the point. So never mind.

I got the point. Did you?

 

[Meriweather]

I got the point. Did you?

If you had gotten the point, you wouldn't be asking that question. I'll tell you what. You have the last word and move on.

 

[BreezeWood]

...why bash the worship of others by attacking their faith, religious denomination, or the ways they worship?

It is pointless to ask a question unless one intends to listen attentively to the answer given.

case in point - meriweather the - solicitor.

 

[Cougarbear]

If you had gotten the point, you wouldn't be asking that question. I'll tell you what. You have the last word and move on.

If you had gotten the point, you would want to debate back and forth.

 

[ding]

faith is more powerful than being a sinner - sinner. might try not being the latter...

All the ones I know try.