If You Ever Doubted We're Heading Toward Fascism....

[Hutch Starskey]

...today's thread will convince you.



1. An article in today's City Journal ties together several of the themes I've propounded....

a. There is hardly any real science....what is pushed as science is a political agenda...e.g., environmentalism, global warming, and Darwin's theory.

b. The controlling political party...not only historically related to both Fascism and communism, aims for the same outcomes as its predecessors: remove any dissent from the public arena.
Marginalize, demonize, and silence 'em.

c. O'Sullivan's First Law: All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing. I cite as supporting evidence the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, and the Episcopal Church. The reason is, of course, that people who staff such bodies tend to be the sort who don't like private profit, business, making money, the current organization of society, and, by extension, the Western world. At which point Michels's Iron Law of Oligarchy takes over — and the rest follows. http://old.nationalreview.com/flashback/flashback-jos062603.asp

d. Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxisttheoretician and founding member and one-time leader of theCommunist Party of Italy. Gramschi’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."




2. "A group of prominent scientists have united for an odd quest: to reduce funding for science education. They’ve joined with environmental groups and progressive activiststo demand that hundreds of museums of science and natural history “cut all ties with the fossil fuel industry and funders of climate science obfuscation,” which means rejecting donations or investment dividends from anyone who doesn’t meet their standard of purity.

3..... began last year by demanding that the American Museum of Natural History in New York have nothing to do with the industrialist David Koch, a major benefactor and member of the museum’s board of trustees for more than two decades. There was no evidence that Koch had influenced the content of any exhibit at the museum—donors are prohibited from involvement—but the activists got their wish this year ....

.... the activists are hailing it as a victory andpointing to other museums, including the Phipps Conservatory in Pittsburgh and the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco, that have divested themselves of fossil-fuel investments and banned donations from these companies."

Nearly 150 academics have signed on to the cause,...." Exhibiting Bias

Socialism is fascism

I guess that's why they're different words.

 

[Weatherman2020]

...today's thread will convince you.



1. An article in today's City Journal ties together several of the themes I've propounded....

a. There is hardly any real science....what is pushed as science is a political agenda...e.g., environmentalism, global warming, and Darwin's theory.

b. The controlling political party...not only historically related to both Fascism and communism, aims for the same outcomes as its predecessors: remove any dissent from the public arena.
Marginalize, demonize, and silence 'em.

c. O'Sullivan's First Law: All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing. I cite as supporting evidence the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, and the Episcopal Church. The reason is, of course, that people who staff such bodies tend to be the sort who don't like private profit, business, making money, the current organization of society, and, by extension, the Western world. At which point Michels's Iron Law of Oligarchy takes over — and the rest follows. http://old.nationalreview.com/flashback/flashback-jos062603.asp

d. Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxisttheoretician and founding member and one-time leader of theCommunist Party of Italy. Gramschi’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."




2. "A group of prominent scientists have united for an odd quest: to reduce funding for science education. They’ve joined with environmental groups and progressive activiststo demand that hundreds of museums of science and natural history “cut all ties with the fossil fuel industry and funders of climate science obfuscation,” which means rejecting donations or investment dividends from anyone who doesn’t meet their standard of purity.

3..... began last year by demanding that the American Museum of Natural History in New York have nothing to do with the industrialist David Koch, a major benefactor and member of the museum’s board of trustees for more than two decades. There was no evidence that Koch had influenced the content of any exhibit at the museum—donors are prohibited from involvement—but the activists got their wish this year ....

.... the activists are hailing it as a victory andpointing to other museums, including the Phipps Conservatory in Pittsburgh and the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco, that have divested themselves of fossil-fuel investments and banned donations from these companies."

Nearly 150 academics have signed on to the cause,...." Exhibiting Bias

A President with limited powers who can be impeached.

If you think USA will ever be a fascist state -- you are either stupid or mentally ill.

USA are not a fascist State but they're a capitalist State i.e. a dictatorship of the business class (rich count, not rich are nothing...)
Same thing for ALL capitalist countries all over the world (included so called "communist" countries like China or Vietnam...they're not commies anymore...)

Yeah, and Putin and Jong are living modestly working for the people with nothing in their motives for self gain.

 

[JakeStarkey]

An OP that does not define terms fails from the beginning.

PC has refused to define terms. The thread is a failure.

Is this your first time in a PC thread? She's gone over the subject repeatedly. Spend less time defending Obama and Statism and more time actually reading the OP

Read the posts, Frank, and stop blathering. She refused to define the term. She fails.

 

[JakeStarkey]

An OP that does not define terms fails from the beginning.

PC has refused to define terms. The thread is a failure.

Morons on display. They don't even know what fascism is and spend all day on a political message board telling us "facts".

Define the term. Hint: it is not socialism.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Another example of we are a fascist State: government takes private property against the will of homeowners so large corporations can benefit.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

An OP that does not define terms fails from the beginning.

PC has refused to define terms. The thread is a failure.

Is this your first time in a PC thread? She's gone over the subject repeatedly. Spend less time defending Obama and Statism and more time actually reading the OP

Read the posts, Frank, and stop blathering. She refused to define the term. She fails.

Note to new USMB'ers. Jake is an Obama and Statist First repsonder. Check any thread critical of his Ossiah and you'll often see Jake on the first page throwing himself in front of the incoming criticism with no regard to his own credibility

Jake has posted in about 1,000 thread originated by PC and he's yet to read a single OP. All he knows it that PC brilliantly reduces Statism down to it's anti-human failing and that act sets off Jake's Statist Defense Reflex.

 

[Weatherman2020]

An OP that does not define terms fails from the beginning.

PC has refused to define terms. The thread is a failure.

Morons on display. They don't even know what fascism is and spend all day on a political message board telling us "facts".

Define the term. Hint: it is not socialism.

I differ to Mr Webster.

• : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government
  
  
• : very harsh control or authority
  
  
  

 

[Siete]

Another example of we are a fascist State: government takes private property against the will of homeowners so large corporations can benefit.

like Trump did the old lady and built a parking lot

or like Republicans who supported Keystone Pipeline and took farmers land

??

 

[Weatherman2020]

Another example of we are a fascist State: government takes private property against the will of homeowners so large corporations can benefit.

like Trump did the old lady and built a parking lot

or like Republicans who supported Keystone Pipeline and took farmers land

??

Who owns the Keystone pipeline and where is it located?
What a maroon.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

An OP that does not define terms fails from the beginning.

PC has refused to define terms. The thread is a failure.

The assumption is you understand words.. do you need to have the word "wet" defined for you as well?

 

[Wry Catcher]

...today's thread will convince you.



1. An article in today's City Journal ties together several of the themes I've propounded....

a. There is hardly any real science....what is pushed as science is a political agenda...e.g., environmentalism, global warming, and Darwin's theory.

b. The controlling political party...not only historically related to both Fascism and communism, aims for the same outcomes as its predecessors: remove any dissent from the public arena.
Marginalize, demonize, and silence 'em.

c. O'Sullivan's First Law: All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing. I cite as supporting evidence the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, and the Episcopal Church. The reason is, of course, that people who staff such bodies tend to be the sort who don't like private profit, business, making money, the current organization of society, and, by extension, the Western world. At which point Michels's Iron Law of Oligarchy takes over — and the rest follows. http://old.nationalreview.com/flashback/flashback-jos062603.asp

d. Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxisttheoretician and founding member and one-time leader of theCommunist Party of Italy. Gramschi’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."




2. "A group of prominent scientists have united for an odd quest: to reduce funding for science education. They’ve joined with environmental groups and progressive activiststo demand that hundreds of museums of science and natural history “cut all ties with the fossil fuel industry and funders of climate science obfuscation,” which means rejecting donations or investment dividends from anyone who doesn’t meet their standard of purity.

3..... began last year by demanding that the American Museum of Natural History in New York have nothing to do with the industrialist David Koch, a major benefactor and member of the museum’s board of trustees for more than two decades. There was no evidence that Koch had influenced the content of any exhibit at the museum—donors are prohibited from involvement—but the activists got their wish this year ....

.... the activists are hailing it as a victory andpointing to other museums, including the Phipps Conservatory in Pittsburgh and the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco, that have divested themselves of fossil-fuel investments and banned donations from these companies."

Nearly 150 academics have signed on to the cause,...." Exhibiting Bias

Socialism is fascism

This post ^^^ is an example of the ignorance which is the dominant characteristic of the New Right. It provides evidence that the lies and distortions which drive the plutocrats agenda works, and as President Lincoln once described:

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
​

The New Right is composed primarily of those who can be fooled all of the time!

​

 

[PoliticalChic]

If You Ever Doubted We're Heading Toward Fascism...


so stay in Canada where you belong

So.....no disagreement with the title of the thread?

Excellent.

 

[Wry Catcher]

An OP that does not define terms fails from the beginning.

PC has refused to define terms. The thread is a failure.

The assumption is you understand words.. do you need to have the word "wet" defined for you as well?

The take away from the OP and your ignorant comment is really quite simple. You really ought to read history unrevised by PoliticalChic and those she echoes.

In one respect all fascist states were under the control of a power elite, known here in America as plutocrats and those who do their bidding (for example, members of Congress whose election and reelection requires campaign donations, aka, bribes).

Despots on the far right and the far left seek total power and control over the people, they are Authoritarian, anti democratic, militaristic and unopposed to violence as a means to that end.

Therein is where socialism and fascism part company, European socialism is democratic, under civilian control and embraces the idea that diverse religious, ethnic, racial, and political groups should be allowed to thrive in a single society.

Now which defines Trump and Cruze, and which defines Sanders and Clinton?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Another example of we are a fascist State: government takes private property against the will of homeowners so large corporations can benefit.

You betcha'!!!
But it despotic government that is the benficiary.

1. “…when land is public, or if it can be made quasi-public with so many regulations attached that most property rights are removed, people can’t afford to fight, having lost the better part of their wealth. So ideally for the movement, regulations should be almost infinite in reach and so imprecise as to be interpreted in a dozen ways. All that‘s needed to force these regulations is sufficient documentation of collapse, supported by books, movies, documentaries, museum exhibits, cartoons, newspapers and magazine stories, the devotion of fervid columnists, et cetera, ad infinitum, to convince the public that “something must be done.” This “feeling” is backed by slightly more substantive hundred-page full-color glossy PDFs aimed at policy makers and politicians.” Nickson, “Eco-Fascists,” p. 170.

 

[PoliticalChic]

An OP that does not define terms fails from the beginning.

PC has refused to define terms. The thread is a failure.

The assumption is you understand words.. do you need to have the word "wet" defined for you as well?

The take away from the OP and your ignorant comment is really quite simple. You really ought to read history unrevised by PoliticalChic and those she echoes.

In one respect all fascist states were under the control of the power elite, known here in America as the plutocrats and those who do their bidding.

Since you have never been able to find anything in my posts that is either incorrect or untrue, "unrevised by PoliticalChic" must, actually, mean 'revealed by PoliticalChic.'

Try your best to use language with the precision with which I use same.



And....a protocol note: be certain that you are genuflecting toward the Holy City of New York whenever you use my name.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now....returning to the point being proven today: what are referred to as 'scientists' are, largely, simply apparatchiks of the Fascists-in-Charge.



We continue....

6. "....eco-alarmism and left-wing politics. .... for historical perspective, is in one of the least popular parts of the museum: the Hall of New York State Environment. It’s a quaint nook with a musty collection of dioramas from the early 1950s, long before Koch was on the board. The human impact on the environment is depicted in a historical series of dioramas of Dutchess County in upstate New York.


First, there’s “The Forest Primeval,” some of which is cut down to make room for “The Settlement” in the 1790 diorama. Most of the forest has given way to farmland in the 1840 diorama, titled “High Tide.” But by 1870, some of the farmland is lying fallow, and by 1950, much of it has been covered again with forest. One cause of this trend is depicted in the tiny models of farming equipment, a progression from a simple ox-drawn plow to more elaborate machines drawn by horses and, ultimately, by a motorized tractor. By 1950, the diorama’s copywriter exults, “the invention of the gas engine” and “the remarkable development of specialized machines” enabled farmers to grow more food with less labor on less land, allowing farmland to revert to forest."
Exhibiting Bias



Did you get that? So....before Koch was on the scene, and before the Leftists took charge.....praise for "the gas engine."

 

[Dragonlady]

4. "They claim to be concerned that museums compromise their integrity “by association with special interests,” but some interests are obviously more special than others. The scientists and their allies haven’t objected, for instance, to the Boston Science Museum’s wind-energy exhibit being sponsored by an engineering firm that helps build wind farms or by a Massachusetts state agency with the explicit mission of promoting wind power.

Only fossil-fuel companies are targeted, supposedly because they’re causing climate science to be distorted or censored, yet the scientists and their allies can’t point to any damning examples.


There must be no distractions from their predictions that global warming will wipe out the human species."
Exhibiting Bias



5. Nor are all the Fascists in this country. The Royal Society of England wrote directly to sympathetic science journalists and asked them not to cover opposing claims about climate change. It was false to even mention skeptics; the science was settled.”

“…Royal Society,… writes: "We are appealing to all parts of the UK media to be vigilant against attempts to present a distorted view of the scientific evidence about climate change and its potential effects on people and their environments around the world. I hope that we can count on your support." Collins, the UK Telegraph, was shocked…and wrote of the ‘sceptics:’ These people are not nutcases, nor are they in thrall to the oil companies (even if they were, does anyone seriously believe that Big Oil wants to destroy the planet?). They are just as capable of doing serious science as those who take it as an article of faith that global warming is all our fault. Global warming generates hot air


That's what Fascists do.... Marginalize, demonize, and silence any opposing voices.

Gee, that sounds like the GOP to me.

 

[Dragonlady]

Another example of we are a fascist State: government takes private property against the will of homeowners so large corporations can benefit.

That's corporatism, Asshat.

 

[Kosh]

...today's thread will convince you.



1. An article in today's City Journal ties together several of the themes I've propounded....

a. There is hardly any real science....what is pushed as science is a political agenda...e.g., environmentalism, global warming, and Darwin's theory.

b. The controlling political party...not only historically related to both Fascism and communism, aims for the same outcomes as its predecessors: remove any dissent from the public arena.
Marginalize, demonize, and silence 'em.

c. O'Sullivan's First Law: All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing. I cite as supporting evidence the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, and the Episcopal Church. The reason is, of course, that people who staff such bodies tend to be the sort who don't like private profit, business, making money, the current organization of society, and, by extension, the Western world. At which point Michels's Iron Law of Oligarchy takes over — and the rest follows. http://old.nationalreview.com/flashback/flashback-jos062603.asp

d. Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxisttheoretician and founding member and one-time leader of theCommunist Party of Italy. Gramschi’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."




2. "A group of prominent scientists have united for an odd quest: to reduce funding for science education. They’ve joined with environmental groups and progressive activiststo demand that hundreds of museums of science and natural history “cut all ties with the fossil fuel industry and funders of climate science obfuscation,” which means rejecting donations or investment dividends from anyone who doesn’t meet their standard of purity.

3..... began last year by demanding that the American Museum of Natural History in New York have nothing to do with the industrialist David Koch, a major benefactor and member of the museum’s board of trustees for more than two decades. There was no evidence that Koch had influenced the content of any exhibit at the museum—donors are prohibited from involvement—but the activists got their wish this year ....

.... the activists are hailing it as a victory andpointing to other museums, including the Phipps Conservatory in Pittsburgh and the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco, that have divested themselves of fossil-fuel investments and banned donations from these companies."

Nearly 150 academics have signed on to the cause,...." Exhibiting Bias

A President with limited powers who can be impeached.

If you think USA will ever be a fascist state -- you are either stupid or mentally ill.

This from a racist/bigoted far left drone that supports Fascism.

 

[Mac1958]

There's a lot of folks who would really do themselves some good by backing away from the radio for a few months.