if you have to lie about such a mickey mouse thing as fracking, then you're just a liar

[citygator]

Only for people who don't understand what base load is, and that solar and wind can't be used for it without massive grid level storage.

And nuclear power in the US is not high risk. stop lying.

Maybe this visual will help you. As you can see… all future growth in energy output will be via renewables.

 

[martybegan]

Maybe this visual will help you. As you can see… all future growth in energy output will be via renewables.

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Nice projections, too bad they have nothing to do with reality or anticipated demand.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Maybe this visual will help you. As you can see… all future growth in energy output will be via renewables.

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Yes, stupid green mandates and taxpayer subsidies will
result in lots of malinvestment.

 

[citygator]

Nice projections, too bad they have nothing to do with reality or anticipated demand.

It 100% does. Look at what is happening now. That is the growth rate you are seeing now… seems like we are both using energy to type our thoughts just fine with Solar and Wind being 100% of the growth.

 

[Lesh]

By that logic me drinking water removes it from the cycle because I turn it into pee.

You idiot. I’d explain how that DOESN’T remove it from the cycle but you’re too stupid to understand

 

[martybegan]

It 100% does. Look at what is happening now. That is the growth rate you are seeing now… seems like we are both using energy to type our thoughts just fine with Solar and Wind being 100% of the growth.

It does nothing of the sort. it's wishful thinking without and grounding in actual grid realities.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

Just think that slut Kamala was having sex with Willie who had a wife and 3 young children. Yes, Willy is a pig too for screwing her but this whore Kamala KNEW what she was getting into, having sex with Willy to move her up in the ranks and get a BMW. (other financial things too from this) If she can LIE about her color, LIE about fracking, LIE about sleeping with a married man, what else can she lie about?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You idiot. I’d explain how that DOESN’T remove it from the cycle but you’re too stupid to understand

How does fracking permanently remove water from the water cycle?

 

[martybegan]

You idiot. I’d explain how that DOESN’T remove it from the cycle but you’re too stupid to understand

And neither does fracking. Contaminated water can be cleaned. Water sequestered in impervious strata is either replaced by water from other strata that become pervious, or eventually when the original strata geologically changes over time to become pervious.

You can't take water out of the water cycle unless you shoot it into space, somehow convert it to energy via fusion, or permanently hydrolyze it, and biology makes that impossible.

 

[citygator]

It does nothing of the sort. it's wishful thinking without and grounding in actual grid realities.

Link it or supply your backup data.

 

[Lesh]

And neither does fracking. Contaminated water can be cleaned. Water sequestered in impervious strata is either replaced by water from other strata that become pervious, or eventually when the original strata geologically changes over time to become pervious.

You can't take water out of the water cycle unless you shoot it into space, somehow convert it to energy via fusion, or permanently hydrolyze it, and biology makes that impossible.

If you lock it underground where it won’t be again on the surface for hundreds of years… yeah… you have removed it from the cycle.

 

[martybegan]

Link it or supply your backup data.

All you show is color graphs with no reference or background. you don't need hard data to know the grids and production without base load power are simply not going to work.

 

[martybegan]

If you lock it underground where it won’t be again on the surface for hundreds of years… yeah… you have removed it from the cycle.

No, it isn't. Because some is being returned via geologic action in other areas changing impermeable to permeable.

You are mistaking short term water cycles for the overall planetary water cycle.

 

[Lesh]

No, it isn't. Because some is being returned via geologic action in other areas changing impermeable to permeable.

You are mistaking short term water cycles for the overall planetary water cycle.

So fracking will be mitigated in a couple hundred years? Maybe a thousand?

Great.

But irrelevant

 

[martybegan]

So fracking will be mitigated in a couple hundred years? Maybe a thousand?

Great.

But irrelevant

How long do you think the water in hydrates like sandstone get locked away?

 

[citygator]

All you show is color graphs with no reference or background. you don't need hard data to know the grids and production without base load power are simply not going to work.

So no. You cant link anything. I already linked one of many articles and studies that outlines the growth of the energy grid will be almost all renewables. Post #75.

 

[martybegan]

So no. You cant link anything. I already linked one of many articles and studies that outlines the growth of the energy grid will be almost all renewables. Post #75.

Growth doesn't equate with meeting the proper base load demand. It's all projected bullshit based on fairy queefs and unicorn farts.

 

[citygator]

Growth doesn't equate with meeting the proper base load demand. It's all projected bullshit based on fairy queefs and unicorn farts.

Yawn. Done here. Almost every expert is projecting the same thing but marty on the internet says they are wrong. Ok.

 

[martybegan]

Yawn. Done here. Almost every expert is projecting the same thing but marty on the internet says they are wrong. Ok.

They are lying to themselves and everyone else, much like the Soviets did during the 70's and 80's.