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The year Jesus gathered his Apostles and began proclaiming the Good News.What year did the Catholic church start?
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The year Jesus gathered his Apostles and began proclaiming the Good News.What year did the Catholic church start?
You resemble that remark.Wow, such ignorance.
I'll try again, when was the first utterance, "Catholic church" attempted?It started when Jesus started it. I believe the Church says that it started when He died on the Cross. Or the Resurrection. Either way, we know it did not begin with the humanoid Luther in the 16th century or with Joel Olsteen in the 21st
Having a pedigree of apostolic succession or being able to trace a church’s roots back to the "first church" is nowhere in Scripture given as a test for being the true church. What is given is repeated comparisons between what false teachers teach and what the first church taught, as recorded in Scripture. Whether a church is the "true church" or not is determined by comparing its teachings and practices to that of the New Testament church, as recorded in Scripture.You still haven't answered
Name any other purported "church" that can claim to go back that far (AD 107).
Actually, the Catholic Church goes back to the time of Christ, the Resurrection
But again, a lot of ancient writings have been lost
So why did Martin Luther leave the Catholic Church?You can't.
Jesus didn't wait until Martin Luther was born, became a priest and then defected, to start His Church. Luther broke away from... what?
the Church.
That Church existed LONG before Luther... 1521 years, to be exact (the year of this 91 Theses). So what happened in those first 1521 years?
I guess: not much. So say the Protestants.
But that was thousands of years after human culture began and the first religions appeared.The first Church God established on Earth was the Jewish one and the Catholics kept a lot of those "perpetual ordinances" mentioned by the Jews in the Old T
Try reading the early Church Fathers, some of whom knew the ApostlesHaving a pedigree of apostolic succession or being able to trace a church’s roots back to the "first church" is nowhere in Scripture given as a test for being the true church. What is given is repeated comparisons between what false teachers teach and what the first church taught, as recorded in Scripture. Whether a church is the "true church" or not is determined by comparing its teachings and practices to that of the New Testament church, as recorded in Scripture.
The church Jesus established and passed on to the apostles fell into a state of Apostasy. T
The score may change due to mankind's free will, but in the end God will prevail. The game isn't over yet.Oh, so Jesus didn't keep His promise?
He promised that the very gates of Hell would not destroy His Church
See Mt 16:18
Did Jesus fail?!
You resemble that remark.
In 1611, when the Bible was first translated from Hebrew into English, a total of fourteen books of the Old Testament were deliberately removed. Why did the church and the Vatican destroy history?
We can still find traces of the missing books by reading the Old Testament.
- The Book of the Covenant : In Exodus, chap. 24, verse 7, Moses mentions the Book of the Covenant, but sadly this book no longer exists in the modern Bible
- The Lord’s Book of Wars : The Lord’s Book of Wars also no longer exists. But a small passage was saved thanks to Moses who quotes it in Numbers, chapter 21, verse 14:
- The Book of the Just : In the same way, Book of the Just disappeared from the Bible, yet it is explicitly mentioned and quoted by Joshua in his: Book of Joshua chapter 10, verse 13 and 14.
- The Book of the Deeds of Solomon: No quotation for the Book of the Deeds of Solomon, only a mention made by the prophet Jeremiah in: 1 Kings, ch. 11, verse 41:
- The Book of Samuel – The Book of Nathan – The Book of Gad: No quotation even in 1 Chronicles, chapter 29, verse 29 and verse 30, but three books are mentioned: The Book of Samuel, the Book of Nathan and the Book of Gad:
- The Prophecy of Achia of Silo – The Visions of the Seer Iedò: Also Ezra mentions the Book of Nathan, plus two other books in, 2 Chronicles chapter 9 verse 29:
- The Acts of the Prophet Semaia – The Acts of the seer Iddo : Also Ezra, in 2 Chronicles, chapter 12, verse 15, mentions two other books:
- The Book of Ozai
- Finally, Ezra mentions the book of Ozai in 2 Chronicles, chapter 33, verse 19:
The Bible as we know it is a partial version strongly accepted by the ecclesiastical hierarchy. There are actually several missing books that have been lost that are referred to in the Holy Scriptures themselves. For example The Book of Numbers mentions the Book of the Battles of Jahvé, of which no copies have survived, or the first and second Book of Kings, and the first and second Book of Chronicles, refer to Book of the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel, of which there is no trace.”
Altogether we have many books cited or mentioned by the authors of the Old Testament, which disappeared into thin air. It is impossible to answer a precise why, even if many have a solid idea.
In 1684 the Vatican removed many books of the Bible without a real explanation
Why did the Vatican remove some books of the Bible in 1684 without giving any logical explanation? It was the year 1684 when the Church decided to delete somewww.monkeyandelf.com
The Catholics are wrong about the Bible and Pope Luther assured everyone that those 7 books are not from God.You can't.
Jesus didn't wait until Martin Luther was born, became a priest and then defected, to start His Church. Luther broke away from... what?
the Church.
That Church existed LONG before Luther... 1521 years, to be exact (the year of this 91 Theses). So what happened in those first 1521 years?
I guess: not much. So say the Protestants.
sorry, but if you think all truth and wisdom and means ofsalvation are to be found in Scripture alone... Even the Scriptures do not say that. in fact they say that if everything Jesus said and did were written down, it is doubtful the whole world could contain all the books.Having a pedigree of apostolic succession or being able to trace a church’s roots back to the "first church" is nowhere in Scripture given as a test for being the true church.
um... what?The Catholics are wrong about the Bible and Pope Luther assured everyone that those 7 books are not from God.
Oops,he said James wasn't either. So maybe Pope Luther wasn't infallible.
IF you knew the demonic nature of Calvin's Double Predestination you would flee Protestantism