Illegals already cutting through Trump's multi billion $ wall...

[Vandalshandle]

A great example of the brainless simple mindedness of Trump minions. Trump is able to con them because their inability for critical thinking.
To compare the Israel wall with Palestine and the proposed wall between US and Mexico is like comparing apples and oranges.
The most illegal crossings into Israel before the wall was 17,000 people. The wall was set up to stop terrorists. They represent a minority of the illegal crossings. The population that is trying to breach the Israel wall is very small. Mainly terrorists. It is 440 miles long

The US is facing a 2000 mile border with Mexico with hundreds of thousands of strongly motivated people to enter the US illegally. There are those seeking work, asylum seekers, drug smugglers, human smuggling. They come from all the countries of central and south America.

Success or failure of the Israel wall has very little bearing on the challenge of securing the US border.

rumor has it the wall in Hungary repels hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year trying to sneak in and get jobs -

ya think -

That's not a rumor. It's a fact.

Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels

CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:

When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.​

Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.

It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.

MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.

...which gang was actually started in the United States. Look it up in Wiki.

 

[Correll]

If they built it alone the entire border, it would stop 99% of them.

First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.

It is pathetic the way that the stupid Moon Bats think of every reason possible not to protect the sovereign of th US. That is as anti American as it gets.

They want the poverty filth to flood into the US to change the voting demographics so that the Democrats win to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.

Shame!

They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.

Except, sometimes, liberals like to deny that they take jobs.

You can address what I say or address what others say but I do not speak for them.

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Another articulation of border security that only a Trump brain dead minion could come up with.
Maintaining and securing a wall the entire length of the US-Mexico border is impossible. There are many tech solutions at different places along the border that could be more secure, less expensive to install and less expensive to maintain.
Plus the majority of illegals in the US come in through airports not the southern border.
But dumbass Trump minions like simple answers that do not work for complex questions because they are absolute super dumbasses.

Wrong again, moron. All your "tech solutions" can be made to disappear with the stroke of a pen. All some future Hillary has to do is stop implementing them. The beauty of the wall is that it can't be made to disappear.

Your claim that the majority of illegals come through airports is also a lie.

Whenever Dims don't want to solve a problem, they call it "complex" when we all know the solution is simple.

The final solution is to defeat Dims.

Only a Dimwit like Elmer Fudge could try to spin building a simple wall as a "complex" ineffective problem. We've only been doing it as the de facto way of establishing and enforcing boundaries for at least 11,000 years.

But now it can't even keep out poor, starving, impoverished people with nothing but rags for clothes, who BTW, find it much easier to take a jet in with a passport than to just walk across the border!

I've stood on China's 'Great Wall'. It is in ruins, except the few sections renovated for tourists.

...and it was a failure. The Mongols bribed their way through it, and conquered China, and then ruled China for 400 years.

So after it kept them out for 1300 years, they managed to find a way past it?

That's your conception of "not working?"

BTW, The mongols only ruled China for about 200 years.

The leftwing definition of "not working:"

It isn't perfectly indestructible, and it isn't 100% effective for 2000 years.​

Do you know how idiotic you sound?

Does this sound familiar to you?

Although a useful deterrent against raids, at several points throughout its history the Great Wall failed to stop enemies, including in 1644 when the Manchu Qing marched through the gates of Shanhai Pass and replaced the most ardent of the wall-building dynasties, the Ming, as rulers of China.

The Wall of China was NOT continuous. It has more in common with the Great Wall of the Rump than you can imagine. In the parts that had no wall, the various dynasties relied on Diplomacy and patrols or it was unpassable due to terrain. In the end, it failed completely and the Ming Dynasties were defeated and replaced by the Mongols. The Great Wall of China was never intended to keep people fleeing from brutal dictators into China or leaving China. It failed for exactly the same reasons that the MexUS wall isn't a shining success. There are just too many ways to defeat it without adequate boots on the ground. The number of Border Patrol that are actually patrolling have decreased in the last 3 years.

 

[Correll]

rumor has it the wall in Hungary repels hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year trying to sneak in and get jobs -

ya think -

That's not a rumor. It's a fact.

Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels

CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:

When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.​

Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.

It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.

MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.

...which gang was actually started in the United States. Look it up in Wiki.

True. But it is still a powerful, specific example of a big pile of murderers who came into this country illegally.


It was true in 2018. And it is true now.

 

[NotYourBody]

That's not a rumor. It's a fact.

Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels

CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:

When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.​

Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.

It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.

MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.

We are not being overrun by hordes of Meemaw murderer/rapers. It simply is not happening. Stop being so afraid of people who don't look like you.

I gave one small, specific example, that is responsible for thousands of murders. You did not address it. You fail.

Your one small, specific example does not equal 'hordes' of Meemaw murderer/rapers storming the border.

fyi - many MS 13 gang members are born in the United States. I live on the border and I've never seen one or been attacked by one.

 

[pknopp]

First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.

It is pathetic the way that the stupid Moon Bats think of every reason possible not to protect the sovereign of th US. That is as anti American as it gets.

They want the poverty filth to flood into the US to change the voting demographics so that the Democrats win to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.

Shame!

They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.

Except, sometimes, liberals like to deny that they take jobs.

You can address what I say or address what others say but I do not speak for them.

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

If born here. They would be citizens. Yes, citizens can vote.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Still no pictures huh. Gee, if it were actually happening you would think some would have surfaced by now.

Looks like another leftist lie.

Pictures have been presented but you scream "Fake News" when they are presented. A clip where Rump is admitting to it but is playing id down with his 2nd grade engineering also has been shown in here. The only fake news here is YOU.

 

[Correll]

CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:

When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.​

Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.

It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.

MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.

We are not being overrun by hordes of Meemaw murderer/rapers. It simply is not happening. Stop being so afraid of people who don't look like you.

I gave one small, specific example, that is responsible for thousands of murders. You did not address it. You fail.

Your one small, specific example does not equal 'hordes' of Meemaw murderer/rapers storming the border.

fyi - many MS 13 gang members are born in the United States. I live on the border and I've never seen one or been attacked by one.

8 to 10 thousand members living in the united states. Sounds like a horde to me.


"MS-13 is often public in its violence. Infanticide and femicide are common, with El Salvador hosting the third-highest femicide rate in the world. In 2016, one in 5,000 Salvadoran women were killed. Legal impunity is a key factor. In femicide cases, only 5% result in convictions.[17] Violent retributions target both enemy gangs as well as their families, friends, and neighbors. Entire families will be wiped out in a single attack, regardless of age. Buses full of passengers from the wrong parts of town will be burned in broad daylight, passengers still aboard.[18] Police officers, government officials, and community organizations are also frequent targets. Attacks like these have led the Supreme Court of El Salvador to authorize the classification of gangs as terrorist organizations"

 

[Correll]

It is pathetic the way that the stupid Moon Bats think of every reason possible not to protect the sovereign of th US. That is as anti American as it gets.

They want the poverty filth to flood into the US to change the voting demographics so that the Democrats win to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.

Shame!

They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.

Except, sometimes, liberals like to deny that they take jobs.

You can address what I say or address what others say but I do not speak for them.

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

If born here. They would be citizens. Yes, citizens can vote.

Thus voting demographics changed by illegal immigration. As was the point. Which you were denying, for some odd reason.

 

[pknopp]

They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.

Except, sometimes, liberals like to deny that they take jobs.

You can address what I say or address what others say but I do not speak for them.

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

If born here. They would be citizens. Yes, citizens can vote.

Thus voting demographics changed by illegal immigration. As was the point. Which you were denying, for some odd reason.

Why does it have to change? One side constantly demonizing them?

 

[Correll]

Except, sometimes, liberals like to deny that they take jobs.

You can address what I say or address what others say but I do not speak for them.

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

If born here. They would be citizens. Yes, citizens can vote.

Thus voting demographics changed by illegal immigration. As was the point. Which you were denying, for some odd reason.

Why does it have to change? One side constantly demonizing them?

NO, more the constant race baiting.

 

[pknopp]

You can address what I say or address what others say but I do not speak for them.

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

If born here. They would be citizens. Yes, citizens can vote.

Thus voting demographics changed by illegal immigration. As was the point. Which you were denying, for some odd reason.

Why does it have to change? One side constantly demonizing them?

NO, more the constant race baiting.

So stop it.

 

[westwall]

Still no pictures huh. Gee, if it were actually happening you would think some would have surfaced by now.

Looks like another leftist lie.

Pictures have been presented but you scream "Fake News" when they are presented. A clip where Rump is admitting to it but is playing id down with his 2nd grade engineering also has been shown in here. The only fake news here is YOU.

The pictures that have been presented were test cuts made during testing, and those were accomplished with cutting torches.

This has already been proven dude.

 

[NotYourBody]

Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.

It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.

MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.

We are not being overrun by hordes of Meemaw murderer/rapers. It simply is not happening. Stop being so afraid of people who don't look like you.

I gave one small, specific example, that is responsible for thousands of murders. You did not address it. You fail.

Your one small, specific example does not equal 'hordes' of Meemaw murderer/rapers storming the border.

fyi - many MS 13 gang members are born in the United States. I live on the border and I've never seen one or been attacked by one.

8 to 10 thousand members living in the united states. Sounds like a horde to me.


"MS-13 is often public in its violence. Infanticide and femicide are common, with El Salvador hosting the third-highest femicide rate in the world. In 2016, one in 5,000 Salvadoran women were killed. Legal impunity is a key factor. In femicide cases, only 5% result in convictions.[17] Violent retributions target both enemy gangs as well as their families, friends, and neighbors. Entire families will be wiped out in a single attack, regardless of age. Buses full of passengers from the wrong parts of town will be burned in broad daylight, passengers still aboard.[18] Police officers, government officials, and community organizations are also frequent targets. Attacks like these have led the Supreme Court of El Salvador to authorize the classification of gangs as terrorist organizations"

Yes, that is why families and individuals are fleeing those countries.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.

Except, sometimes, liberals like to deny that they take jobs.

You can address what I say or address what others say but I do not speak for them.

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

If born here. They would be citizens. Yes, citizens can vote.

Thus voting demographics changed by illegal immigration. As was the point. Which you were denying, for some odd reason.

Illegals can't vote. If they do, it's caught during the post election audit that ALL states must accomplish in order to receive federal funding. A few hundred illegals that voted and were caught had zero affect on any elections. But in the 2018 elections, the stealing of ballot boxes by one party (guess which one) was caught in the post election audit and caused the election at state level to have to be redone. The Republican still won but by a very, very narrow margin. The only thing the cheating did was to have the Republican Election Official arrested and sent to prison. Does this mean that ALL Republicans cheat on the elections? No, but a few try. They just don't usually get away with it like they used to. Same goes for the Democrats. Overall, the states do a pretty damned good job with their elections.

 

[westwall]

Except, sometimes, liberals like to deny that they take jobs.

You can address what I say or address what others say but I do not speak for them.

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

If born here. They would be citizens. Yes, citizens can vote.

Thus voting demographics changed by illegal immigration. As was the point. Which you were denying, for some odd reason.

Illegals can't vote. If they do, it's caught during the post election audit that ALL states must accomplish in order to receive federal funding. A few hundred illegals that voted and were caught had zero affect on any elections. But in the 2018 elections, the stealing of ballot boxes by one party (guess which one) was caught in the post election audit and caused the election at state level to have to be redone. The Republican still won but by a very, very narrow margin. The only thing the cheating did was to have the Republican Election Official arrested and sent to prison. Does this mean that ALL Republicans cheat on the elections? No, but a few try. They just don't usually get away with it like they used to. Same goes for the Democrats. Overall, the states do a pretty damned good job with their elections.

California recently reported that up to 1.5 million illegals voted.

Looks like you're wrong again

 

[ElmerMudd]

A great example of the brainless simple mindedness of Trump minions. Trump is able to con them because their inability for critical thinking.
To compare the Israel wall with Palestine and the proposed wall between US and Mexico is like comparing apples and oranges.
The most illegal crossings into Israel before the wall was 17,000 people. The wall was set up to stop terrorists. They represent a minority of the illegal crossings. The population that is trying to breach the Israel wall is very small. Mainly terrorists. It is 440 miles long

The US is facing a 2000 mile border with Mexico with hundreds of thousands of strongly motivated people to enter the US illegally. There are those seeking work, asylum seekers, drug smugglers, human smuggling. They come from all the countries of central and south America.

Success or failure of the Israel wall has very little bearing on the challenge of securing the US border.

rumor has it the wall in Hungary repels hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year trying to sneak in and get jobs -

ya think -

That's not a rumor. It's a fact.

Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels

CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:

When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.​

Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.

It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.

MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.

MS-13 coming through the southern border is greatly exagerated by Trump and his minions eat up like all of his other lies.
MS-13 started in LA.
MS-13 in El savador is the reason many El Savadorians are fleeing into the USA because they fear for their lives.
MS-13 and the violence driving migration from Central America

 

[Correll]

Their children will and are voting. D'uh,

If born here. They would be citizens. Yes, citizens can vote.

Thus voting demographics changed by illegal immigration. As was the point. Which you were denying, for some odd reason.

Why does it have to change? One side constantly demonizing them?

NO, more the constant race baiting.

So stop it.

How can I stop dems from race baiting? Tell me. I really, really want to know.

 

[westwall]

rumor has it the wall in Hungary repels hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year trying to sneak in and get jobs -

ya think -

That's not a rumor. It's a fact.

Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels

CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:

When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.​

Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.

It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.

MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.

MS-13 coming through the southern border is greatly exagerated by Trump and his minions eat up like all of his other lies.
MS-13 started in LA.
MS-13 in El savador is the reason many El Savadorians are fleeing into the USA because they fear for their lives.
MS-13 and the violence driving migration from Central America

Move to an MS 13 neighborhood then, chicken.

 

[Rambunctious]

...with a power tool retailing for $100.

Smugglers are reportedly cutting holes in Trump’s newly constructed border wall with saws and power tools

How could anyone be surprised about this?

Wake up shit for brains.....

Nine U.S. Citizens Killed in Ambush in Mexico