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If they built it alone the entire border, it would stop 99% of them.The wall won't stop all the filthy ass Democrat voting welfare queens from coming but it will stop a lot and that is a good thing.
First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.
How many such boats do you imagine there are in Mexico? People who own boats capable of such a trip are comparatively wealthy. Why would they go? Why aren't they doing it now?What "resort beach areas" are there on our Southern border?Sure you can. I have never seen any part of the border in photos where you couldn't build the wall. The examples of Israel and Hungary show it would.If they built it alone the entire border, it would stop 99% of them.
First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.
LOL, yeah the resort beach areas are going to just give up expensive beach property and allow a wall. Nobody is going to have a problem with a wall blocking their views either. LOL. Israel is not largely surrounded by water.
It would be a hundred times easier to take a boat from anywhere in Mexico to anywhere in the U.S. than hiking across the desert. People have been doing it from Cuba for years.
Also from the above link:
"In addition to cutting through the walls, officials told the Post that smugglers have also repeatedly scaled and climbed over the walls with makeshift ladders, particularly in areas near San Diego."
I guess that, Mexicans have learned to use ladders. Who could have known?
Let me ask.... do you think more... or less... or the same number would be crossing if there was absolutely not border whatsoever?
No one anywhere suggested that the number of illegal crossing would end up zero with the wall.
The number of illegal crossings from East to West Germany was not zero during that time, and the Soviets were shooting to kill those who crossed.
They also had mine fields and guard towers with machine guns.Also from the above link:
"In addition to cutting through the walls, officials told the Post that smugglers have also repeatedly scaled and climbed over the walls with makeshift ladders, particularly in areas near San Diego."
I guess that, Mexicans have learned to use ladders. Who could have known?
Let me ask.... do you think more... or less... or the same number would be crossing if there was absolutely not border whatsoever?
No one anywhere suggested that the number of illegal crossing would end up zero with the wall.
The number of illegal crossings from East to West Germany was not zero during that time, and the Soviets were shooting to kill those who crossed.
Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.That's not a rumor. It's a fact.A great example of the brainless simple mindedness of Trump minions. Trump is able to con them because their inability for critical thinking.shhh, the left hate facts. you'll send them in a tizzy.Wrong. Walls work everywhere they are used. Israel entirely surrounded the West Bank with walls. Their illegal intrusions went to zero as a result.
Everything you open borders douchebags say on this subject is a lie. It's always backed by nothing. The only thing we need to understand is that people in Mexico want to cross our border illegally. The wall is the way you address them. You're right about one thing: I will never understand idiocy like yours.
To compare the Israel wall with Palestine and the proposed wall between US and Mexico is like comparing apples and oranges.
The most illegal crossings into Israel before the wall was 17,000 people. The wall was set up to stop terrorists. They represent a minority of the illegal crossings. The population that is trying to breach the Israel wall is very small. Mainly terrorists. It is 440 miles long
The US is facing a 2000 mile border with Mexico with hundreds of thousands of strongly motivated people to enter the US illegally. There are those seeking work, asylum seekers, drug smugglers, human smuggling. They come from all the countries of central and south America.
Success or failure of the Israel wall has very little bearing on the challenge of securing the US border.
rumor has it the wall in Hungary repels hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year trying to sneak in and get jobs -
ya think -
Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels
CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:
When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.
Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.That's not a rumor. It's a fact.A great example of the brainless simple mindedness of Trump minions. Trump is able to con them because their inability for critical thinking.shhh, the left hate facts. you'll send them in a tizzy.
To compare the Israel wall with Palestine and the proposed wall between US and Mexico is like comparing apples and oranges.
The most illegal crossings into Israel before the wall was 17,000 people. The wall was set up to stop terrorists. They represent a minority of the illegal crossings. The population that is trying to breach the Israel wall is very small. Mainly terrorists. It is 440 miles long
The US is facing a 2000 mile border with Mexico with hundreds of thousands of strongly motivated people to enter the US illegally. There are those seeking work, asylum seekers, drug smugglers, human smuggling. They come from all the countries of central and south America.
Success or failure of the Israel wall has very little bearing on the challenge of securing the US border.
rumor has it the wall in Hungary repels hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year trying to sneak in and get jobs -
ya think -
Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels
CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:
When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.
It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.
Your in the same crowd that said Trump could never win.Also from the above link:
"In addition to cutting through the walls, officials told the Post that smugglers have also repeatedly scaled and climbed over the walls with makeshift ladders, particularly in areas near San Diego."
I guess that, Mexicans have learned to use ladders. Who could have known?
Let me ask.... do you think more... or less... or the same number would be crossing if there was absolutely not border whatsoever?
No one anywhere suggested that the number of illegal crossing would end up zero with the wall.
The number of illegal crossings from East to West Germany was not zero during that time, and the Soviets were shooting to kill those who crossed.
People can advocate this all day BUT it's something we are never going to do so it's not a solution.
Ironic.Your response did not disappoint. You cannot reason with stupid.Trump is my leader, whatever he wants I will support, I will lie, cheat and do whatever is necessary to get him what he wants, nothing is more important than pleasing our great leader Donald Trump, he thinks for me because he is so great, I am not worthy to have my own thoughts.You keep bringing up the length. That only affects the cost. Based on length, our wall should cost 4-5 times more. However, our economy is 60 times bigger. So the longer length isn't an issue. We can easily afford it. You claimA great example of the brainless simple mindedness of Trump minions. Trump is able to con them because their inability for critical thinking.shhh, the left hate facts. you'll send them in a tizzy.
To compare the Israel wall with Palestine and the proposed wall between US and Mexico is like comparing apples and oranges.
The most illegal crossings into Israel before the wall was 17,000 people. The wall was set up to stop terrorists. They represent a minority of the illegal crossings. The population that is trying to breach the Israel wall is very small. Mainly terrorists. It is 440 miles long
The US is facing a 2000 mile border with Mexico with hundreds of thousands of strongly motivated people to enter the US illegally. There are those seeking work, asylum seekers, drug smugglers, human smuggling. They come from all the countries of central and south America.
Success or failure of the Israel wall has very little bearing on the challenge of securing the US border.
The population trying to get past the Israeli wall is small because most people don't even want to try when confronted with it. The population of people in the West-bank is quite large: 3.3 million people. Without the wall they would all cross the border and take jobs in Israel.
You claim the Mexicans are more motivated than Palestinian terrorists. I would dispute that assertion, and you certainly have no way to prove it. The Israeli wall wind's it's way through numerous heavily populated urban areas, which is a much more difficult environment for controlling border crossings. Your belief that coming from Central America somehow makes them better able to get past a wall is based on absolutely nothing.
You basically have nothing but a bunch of baseless assertions.
You fricking idiot.
Length is a worry about security more than cost. To continually monitor and secure a 2000 mile wall is more difficult than a 400 mile wall. Cost should not matter because your great leader is having Mexico pay for it. We should spare not cost.
Yeah, it's 5 times more difficult, which means it would require 5 times more money. Monitoring a wall in an unpopulated desert is far easier than monitoring one in densely populated areas.
Everything you post is absurd.
"You claim the Mexicans are more motivated than Palestinian terrorists. I would dispute that assertion,"
Your claim above shows how clueless you are about who is trying to get into the US at our southern border. Mexicans are a minority.of people trying to cross our southern border illegally. The majority are coming from central and south America. Most are asylum seekers who feel their life is in jeopardy in their home country. Life and death is a big motivator.
Interviews have demonstrated that most are motivated by economic concerns. They are coming for a better life. You're full of horseshit.
"The population of people in the West-bank is quite large: 3.3 million people. Without the wall they would all cross the border and take jobs in Israel."
Your statement above is the dumbest one you made. You cannot be this stupid. When there was no wall, the worst year only had 17,000 Palestinians illegally cross. You think 3 million palestinians would prefer to live in Israel. You are an idiot.
Plus there are 700 million people living south of our southern border. A larger % of the 700 million are motivated to come to the US than the % of 3 million Palestinians want to go to Israel.
Before they built the wall they had razor wire and chain link fences. They also had thousands of border guards. Your assumption that they did nothing is based on ignorance. There may be 700 million people living South of our border, but only a small percentage are withing walking distance. People from Brazil aren't going to walk to the US border.
I do not expect you to understand. You are plain stupid. I shouldn't call you names, I should just feel sorry for you.
I understand that you're a liar and an idiot.
How Ironic.Oh I don't really care if you believe me or not. Your choice.Your testimonial evidence is 100% worthless. For one thing, why should anyone believe you? For another, we have empirical evidence that shows walls are 99% effective.I live on the border. For many many years. I shop at stores on the border. I cross into Tijuana by car and on foot. I see these 'walls' every single day.So you can't submit a proposal, because you don't have any control over the border, but you are qualified to attack those who do?Oh it's easy. When I see stupidity, I call it out. No proposals required.
The reality is that you're just a fucking dumbass without a clue.
I know that they are easily defeated and their only purpose is to give red state nutters a false sense of security from the 'hordes of Meemaw raper/killers!'
I know the real problem areas are the legal border crossings.
The proposals I've seen on this site are just nonsense.
Your claim that they don't work is just wind blowing out your ugly ass.
I find that most red state nutters choose to believe their own version of reality, often spoon fed to them by their Dear Orange Leader.
I supplied proof that my claims are correct. You supplied jack shit.
Who is being spoon fed own version of reality?
I never mentioned Hannity or Rush, moron. The rest of your post is equally false.How Ironic.Oh I don't really care if you believe me or not. Your choice.Your testimonial evidence is 100% worthless. For one thing, why should anyone believe you? For another, we have empirical evidence that shows walls are 99% effective.I live on the border. For many many years. I shop at stores on the border. I cross into Tijuana by car and on foot. I see these 'walls' every single day.So you can't submit a proposal, because you don't have any control over the border, but you are qualified to attack those who do?
The reality is that you're just a fucking dumbass without a clue.
I know that they are easily defeated and their only purpose is to give red state nutters a false sense of security from the 'hordes of Meemaw raper/killers!'
I know the real problem areas are the legal border crossings.
The proposals I've seen on this site are just nonsense.
Your claim that they don't work is just wind blowing out your ugly ass.
I find that most red state nutters choose to believe their own version of reality, often spoon fed to them by their Dear Orange Leader.
I supplied proof that my claims are correct. You supplied jack shit.
Who is being spoon fed own version of reality?
You provided Hannity and Rush. They haven't said any correct statement ever since Combs broke up with Hannity. And Rush has never had a correct claim even bite him in his ass much less spew one.
I provided solid information that it can be done. Even Rump says it's being done and tries to play it down. When the Bollard fence first went into use it worked. But one day, a bunch of smart Mexicans learned how to defeat it without using a ladder. I guess you believe that all Mexicans are stupid. No wonder they are defeating you. You are just too dumb to exist.
Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.That's not a rumor. It's a fact.A great example of the brainless simple mindedness of Trump minions. Trump is able to con them because their inability for critical thinking.
To compare the Israel wall with Palestine and the proposed wall between US and Mexico is like comparing apples and oranges.
The most illegal crossings into Israel before the wall was 17,000 people. The wall was set up to stop terrorists. They represent a minority of the illegal crossings. The population that is trying to breach the Israel wall is very small. Mainly terrorists. It is 440 miles long
The US is facing a 2000 mile border with Mexico with hundreds of thousands of strongly motivated people to enter the US illegally. There are those seeking work, asylum seekers, drug smugglers, human smuggling. They come from all the countries of central and south America.
Success or failure of the Israel wall has very little bearing on the challenge of securing the US border.
rumor has it the wall in Hungary repels hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year trying to sneak in and get jobs -
ya think -
Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels
CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:
When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.
It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.
MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.
If they built it alone the entire border, it would stop 99% of them.The wall won't stop all the filthy ass Democrat voting welfare queens from coming but it will stop a lot and that is a good thing.
First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.
It is pathetic the way that the stupid Moon Bats think of every reason possible not to protect the sovereign of th US. That is as anti American as it gets.
They want the poverty filth to flood into the US to change the voting demographics so that the Democrats win to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.
Shame!
Your side is telling me that hordes of dangerous rapers and killers are storming the border. This is not true now, nor was it true in October of 2018.That's not a rumor. It's a fact.rumor has it the wall in Hungary repels hundreds of thousands ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year trying to sneak in and get jobs -
ya think -
Hungarian Border Fence So Effective Illegal Immigrants Are Now At Pre Migrant-Crisis Levels
CRISIS IN COMMUNICATION:
When one side gathers facts around which to determine reality while the other side makes up facts to fit a preconceived reality, the one side will never get through to the other, because while the one side is arguing how things really are, all the other side cares about is how they wish things to be.
It's hard to take your side seriously when you scream and cry about such bullshit. And it makes you look like cowards.
MS-13, for one small specific example, is an extremely murderous gang, composed nearly completely of illegal aliens.
We are not being overrun by hordes of Meemaw murderer/rapers. It simply is not happening. Stop being so afraid of people who don't look like you.
Yep, they take American jobs. That's precisely why we want to build the border wall.If they built it alone the entire border, it would stop 99% of them.The wall won't stop all the filthy ass Democrat voting welfare queens from coming but it will stop a lot and that is a good thing.
First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.
It is pathetic the way that the stupid Moon Bats think of every reason possible not to protect the sovereign of th US. That is as anti American as it gets.
They want the poverty filth to flood into the US to change the voting demographics so that the Democrats win to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.
Shame!
They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.
How many such boats do you imagine there are in Mexico? People who own boats capable of such a trip are comparatively wealthy. Why would they go? Why aren't they doing it now?What "resort beach areas" are there on our Southern border?Sure you can. I have never seen any part of the border in photos where you couldn't build the wall. The examples of Israel and Hungary show it would.First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.
LOL, yeah the resort beach areas are going to just give up expensive beach property and allow a wall. Nobody is going to have a problem with a wall blocking their views either. LOL. Israel is not largely surrounded by water.
It would be a hundred times easier to take a boat from anywhere in Mexico to anywhere in the U.S. than hiking across the desert. People have been doing it from Cuba for years.
Only a handful of people from Cuba do it, and a lot of them die in the process. Do you recall what happened to the people who crossed with Elian Gonzalas?
If they built it alone the entire border, it would stop 99% of them.The wall won't stop all the filthy ass Democrat voting welfare queens from coming but it will stop a lot and that is a good thing.
First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.
It is pathetic the way that the stupid Moon Bats think of every reason possible not to protect the sovereign of th US. That is as anti American as it gets.
They want the poverty filth to flood into the US to change the voting demographics so that the Democrats win to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.
Shame!
They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.
Also from the above link:
"In addition to cutting through the walls, officials told the Post that smugglers have also repeatedly scaled and climbed over the walls with makeshift ladders, particularly in areas near San Diego."
I guess that, Mexicans have learned to use ladders. Who could have known?
Let me ask.... do you think more... or less... or the same number would be crossing if there was absolutely not border whatsoever?
No one anywhere suggested that the number of illegal crossing would end up zero with the wall.
The number of illegal crossings from East to West Germany was not zero during that time, and the Soviets were shooting to kill those who crossed.
Yep, they take American jobs. That's precisely why we want to build the border wall.If they built it alone the entire border, it would stop 99% of them.The wall won't stop all the filthy ass Democrat voting welfare queens from coming but it will stop a lot and that is a good thing.
First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.
It is pathetic the way that the stupid Moon Bats think of every reason possible not to protect the sovereign of th US. That is as anti American as it gets.
They want the poverty filth to flood into the US to change the voting demographics so that the Democrats win to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.
Shame!
They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.
If they built it alone the entire border, it would stop 99% of them.The wall won't stop all the filthy ass Democrat voting welfare queens from coming but it will stop a lot and that is a good thing.
First off you can't build it along the entire border and no it wouldn't.
It is pathetic the way that the stupid Moon Bats think of every reason possible not to protect the sovereign of th US. That is as anti American as it gets.
They want the poverty filth to flood into the US to change the voting demographics so that the Democrats win to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.
Shame!
They can't vote but they can and do fill jobs. That is why they come. But you know that.
Except, sometimes, liberals like to deny that they take jobs.
