I'm officially Republican

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

What makes you believe there's Racial equality in amassing wealth? There's certainly no evidence for that what-so-ever.

Capitalist (Republican) theories on competition driving the Capitalist market, also make a case for regulating these massive corporations. (Monopolies drive down competition, and then outsource to China)
No wonder why since the 1970's real wealth has declined / flatlined, despite a skyrocketing American productivity.

Furthermore, the fact that the majority of Capitalist companies are Liberal leaning, means they shouldn't be regulated, really?

Continue to have Facebook, Youtube / Google, Instagram, Twitter, etc. etc. censoring out Right-Wing opinions.

Did you avoid my youtube link, you fascist asshole? I will not again converse with you, because you are a fucking retard.

I'm the retard?

1.) You don't grasp how ALL economies require different skill sets, the big problem is Capitalism in it's more pure form believes the market shall set the wages, therefor NO MATTER how ambitious, educated, creative, intelligent, knowledgeable, or skilled there will still be an economy that requires toilet scrubbers, burger flippers, lawn-mowers, Wal-Mart greeters etc.
WHO WOULD be paid scab wages, despite often times working harder, more honest, and more favorably for the economy than Wall-Street pr(cks keep in mind.

2.)You don't understand genes / biology, either.
Look at people with Down Syndrome, or MS, Schizophrenia or Lou Gehrigs disease, as if that's all choices, yeah right.

3.) You're assuming Blacks, and Whites have equal ability, nope, no evidence for that, the Book the Bell-Curve was a big blow for that.
Furthermore, if you think about it the fact that Africa's so far behind countries who went through worse problems like China, Ukraine, Poland, etc, etc. also makes the case against equality in amassing wealth.

I'm the retard?

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming.

FDR was a Socialist (Fascist) type guy actually, and achieved the #1 economic growth period in 20th century U.S history, the big question becomes then how come?

 

[sealybobo]

We aren't at war against Iran or Palestine.

Iran and Palestine are run by terror regimes so we are.

They aren't bothering us. And they think we are run by terror regimes. You have a very jewish republican spin on the world. Stop saying you are an independent or moderate. You're not. You're a Joe Lieberman Democrat which isn't a democrat at all.

They aren't? Neither were the Saudis until 9/11. You need to be proactive not reactive. After the DNC, I may just register as a Republican tbh.

We already know you are voting Republican. I can't imagine what would bring you back to the light side. Maybe when Trump supporters go full blown Nazi in 2021.

I wonder how many Jews voted for Hitler.

Dems are closer to Nazis than Republicans and its not even close.

That's ridiculous.

Trump is playing the Nationalism card for all it's worth. And this is actually making Jewish Americans uncomfortable. Tell me how Dems are Nazis please.

Nationalism, the Socially-Acceptable Form of Racism

And trust me you are the enemy of these Trump supporters

Even Jared is.

Jewish Trump Staff Silent on His Defense of Rally With Anti-Semitic Marchers

Jewish members of President Trump’s administration remained largely silent Wednesday after Mr. Trump came to the defense of nationalist and right-wing protesters in Charlottesville, Va., who had chanted anti-Semitic slogans and demeaned the president’s Jewish son-in-law.

Neo-Nazis carried torches and chanted “Jews will not replace us” as they marched through the University of Virginia campus on Friday. And on Tuesday, Chris Cantwell, a white supremacist leader, told Vice News that he wanted a president who “does not give his daughter to a Jew.”

Gary D. Cohn, the director of the president’s National Economic Council, who is Jewish, was described by several people close to him as “disgusted” and “deeply upset” by the president’s remarks. But Mr. Cohn has not publicly expressed those views.

Steven Mnuchin, the secretary of the Treasury and also Jewish, stood silently behind Mr. Trump on Tuesday as the president said there were “very fine people on both sides” at the Virginia incident. Mr. Mnuchin has not said anything since about the president’s remarks.

And Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, who is also Jewish, has been silent about Mr. Trump’s comments. Ivanka Trump, Mr. Kushner’s wife, who converted to Judaism, said in a tweet on Sunday, “There should be no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo-nazis.”

But there is a place for them under the GOP umbrella

 

[BrokeLoser]

I'm the retard?

1.) You don't grasp how ALL economies require different skill sets, the big problem is Capitalism in it's more pure form believes the market shall set the wages, therefor NO MATTER how ambitious, educated, creative, intelligent, knowledgeable, or skilled there will still be an economy that requires toilet scrubbers, burger flippers, lawn-mowers, Wal-Mart greeters etc.
WHO WOULD be paid scab wages, despite often times working harder, more honest, and more favorably for the economy than Wall-Street pr(cks keep in mind.

2.)You don't understand genes / biology, either.
Look at people with Down Syndrome, or MS, Schizophrenia or Lou Gehrigs disease, as if that's all choices, yeah right.

3.) You're assuming Blacks, and Whites have equal ability, nope, no evidence for that, the Book the Bell-Curve was a big blow for that.
Furthermore, if you think about it the fact that Africa's so far behind countries who went through worse problems like China, Ukraine, Poland, etc, etc. also makes the case against equality in amassing wealth.

I'm the retard?

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

William Bradford, the colony’s governor its first 30 years, wrote of the agreement between the Pilgrim passengers and the financial “Adventurers” in his book Of Plymouth Plantation. He noted that the seven-year contract signed July 1, 1620, before leaving Plymouth England, stipulated that the Pilgrims were to pool, for common benefit, “all profits and benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any person or persons…” It further noted “that at the end of the seven years, the capital and profits, viz. the houses, lands, goods and chattels, be equally divided betwixt the Adventurers and Planters…” During this time the colonists were to “have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock and goods of the said colony.” It doesn’t get more socialistic than this because the government divvied out the goods and loafers received the same as those who worked.

The first two years the result was shortages and starvation. About half the colonists died. No one did more than the minimal because the incentive to excel was destroyed. The industrious were neutralized. Bradford wrote of the scarcity of food “no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any.” The socialist experiment Bradford added, “was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to the benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense….” In other words, socialism made strong men lazy. In another book written by the same author, History of Plymouth Plantation, Bradford spoke of another problem because of the government created famine—thievery. Even in this Christian community, “much was stolen both by night and day….”

After two years of such, with the survival of the colony at stake, they contemplated upon “how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery.” They opted to abandon the incentive killing socialist contract in favor of the free market. And so they “assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end…”

The effects were almost immediate. A delighted Governor Bradford wrote: “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor… could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.” In other words, the free market is a much greater stimulus than governmental force. The Pilgrims now wished to work because they got to keep the benefits of their labor. “Instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God…. Any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.”

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Iran and Palestine are run by terror regimes so we are.

They aren't bothering us. And they think we are run by terror regimes. You have a very jewish republican spin on the world. Stop saying you are an independent or moderate. You're not. You're a Joe Lieberman Democrat which isn't a democrat at all.

They aren't? Neither were the Saudis until 9/11. You need to be proactive not reactive. After the DNC, I may just register as a Republican tbh.

We already know you are voting Republican. I can't imagine what would bring you back to the light side. Maybe when Trump supporters go full blown Nazi in 2021.

I wonder how many Jews voted for Hitler.

Dems are closer to Nazis than Republicans and its not even close.

That's ridiculous.

Trump is playing the Nationalism card for all it's worth. And this is actually making Jewish Americans uncomfortable. Tell me how Dems are Nazis please.

Nationalism, the Socially-Acceptable Form of Racism

And trust me you are the enemy of these Trump supporters

Even Jared is.

Jewish Trump Staff Silent on His Defense of Rally With Anti-Semitic Marchers

Jewish members of President Trump’s administration remained largely silent Wednesday after Mr. Trump came to the defense of nationalist and right-wing protesters in Charlottesville, Va., who had chanted anti-Semitic slogans and demeaned the president’s Jewish son-in-law.

Neo-Nazis carried torches and chanted “Jews will not replace us” as they marched through the University of Virginia campus on Friday. And on Tuesday, Chris Cantwell, a white supremacist leader, told Vice News that he wanted a president who “does not give his daughter to a Jew.”

Gary D. Cohn, the director of the president’s National Economic Council, who is Jewish, was described by several people close to him as “disgusted” and “deeply upset” by the president’s remarks. But Mr. Cohn has not publicly expressed those views.

Steven Mnuchin, the secretary of the Treasury and also Jewish, stood silently behind Mr. Trump on Tuesday as the president said there were “very fine people on both sides” at the Virginia incident. Mr. Mnuchin has not said anything since about the president’s remarks.

And Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, who is also Jewish, has been silent about Mr. Trump’s comments. Ivanka Trump, Mr. Kushner’s wife, who converted to Judaism, said in a tweet on Sunday, “There should be no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo-nazis.”

But there is a place for them under the GOP umbrella

Easy...lack of free Speech. Google Ben Shapiro and Berkley. Burning flags and books. Antifa....if you disagree with them you're labeled a racist. That makes them Fascists, which is what Nazis are and assholes.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

What makes you believe there's Racial equality in amassing wealth? There's certainly no evidence for that what-so-ever.

Capitalist (Republican) theories on competition driving the Capitalist market, also make a case for regulating these massive corporations. (Monopolies drive down competition, and then outsource to China)
No wonder why since the 1970's real wealth has declined / flatlined, despite a skyrocketing American productivity.

Furthermore, the fact that the majority of Capitalist companies are Liberal leaning, means they shouldn't be regulated, really?

Continue to have Facebook, Youtube / Google, Instagram, Twitter, etc. etc. censoring out Right-Wing opinions.

Did you avoid my youtube link, you fascist asshole? I will not again converse with you, because you are a fucking retard.

I'm the retard?

1.) You don't grasp how ALL economies require different skill sets, the big problem is Capitalism in it's more pure form believes the market shall set the wages, therefor NO MATTER how ambitious, educated, creative, intelligent, knowledgeable, or skilled there will still be an economy that requires toilet scrubbers, burger flippers, lawn-mowers, Wal-Mart greeters etc.
WHO WOULD be paid scab wages, despite often times working harder, more honest, and more favorably for the economy than Wall-Street pr(cks keep in mind.

2.)You don't understand genes / biology, either.
Look at people with Down Syndrome, or MS, Schizophrenia or Lou Gehrigs disease, as if that's all choices, yeah right.

3.) You're assuming Blacks, and Whites have equal ability, nope, no evidence for that, the Book the Bell-Curve was a big blow for that.
Furthermore, if you think about it the fact that Africa's so far behind countries who went through worse problems like China, Ukraine, Poland, etc, etc. also makes the case against equality in amassing wealth.

I'm the retard?

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper?

Depends.

Bread-makers can make a ton of money, IF they own their own successful business.

Just ask JJ Cassone, or better yet Bimbo out of Mexico who's been buying up a ton of U.S.A bread-companies.

Movie-stars don't have more value than burger-floppers, how do you figure that one?

Movie-stars are actually often in degenerate, or Liberal films, anyways.

So, why do you believe they're so valuable?

BTW.
I think burger-flippers deserve more money than Wall-street.

Explain why Wall-Street is more valuable by cutting America's throats, by outsourcing jobs to semi-Commie hostile China, or insourcing illegals from Mexico to form a semi hostile fifth column?

 

[sealybobo]

Did you avoid my youtube link, you fascist asshole? I will not again converse with you, because you are a fucking retard.

I'm the retard?

1.) You don't grasp how ALL economies require different skill sets, the big problem is Capitalism in it's more pure form believes the market shall set the wages, therefor NO MATTER how ambitious, educated, creative, intelligent, knowledgeable, or skilled there will still be an economy that requires toilet scrubbers, burger flippers, lawn-mowers, Wal-Mart greeters etc.
WHO WOULD be paid scab wages, despite often times working harder, more honest, and more favorably for the economy than Wall-Street pr(cks keep in mind.

2.)You don't understand genes / biology, either.
Look at people with Down Syndrome, or MS, Schizophrenia or Lou Gehrigs disease, as if that's all choices, yeah right.

3.) You're assuming Blacks, and Whites have equal ability, nope, no evidence for that, the Book the Bell-Curve was a big blow for that.
Furthermore, if you think about it the fact that Africa's so far behind countries who went through worse problems like China, Ukraine, Poland, etc, etc. also makes the case against equality in amassing wealth.

I'm the retard?

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming.

FDR was a Socialist (Fascist) type guy actually, and achieved the #1 economic growth period in 20th century U.S history, the big question becomes then how come?

I think you are misusing the word fascism.

Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

William Bradford, the colony’s governor its first 30 years, wrote of the agreement between the Pilgrim passengers and the financial “Adventurers” in his book Of Plymouth Plantation. He noted that the seven-year contract signed July 1, 1620, before leaving Plymouth England, stipulated that the Pilgrims were to pool, for common benefit, “all profits and benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any person or persons…” It further noted “that at the end of the seven years, the capital and profits, viz. the houses, lands, goods and chattels, be equally divided betwixt the Adventurers and Planters…” During this time the colonists were to “have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock and goods of the said colony.” It doesn’t get more socialistic than this because the government divvied out the goods and loafers received the same as those who worked.

The first two years the result was shortages and starvation. About half the colonists died. No one did more than the minimal because the incentive to excel was destroyed. The industrious were neutralized. Bradford wrote of the scarcity of food “no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any.” The socialist experiment Bradford added, “was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to the benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense….” In other words, socialism made strong men lazy. In another book written by the same author, History of Plymouth Plantation, Bradford spoke of another problem because of the government created famine—thievery. Even in this Christian community, “much was stolen both by night and day….”

After two years of such, with the survival of the colony at stake, they contemplated upon “how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery.” They opted to abandon the incentive killing socialist contract in favor of the free market. And so they “assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end…”

The effects were almost immediate. A delighted Governor Bradford wrote: “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor… could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.” In other words, the free market is a much greater stimulus than governmental force. The Pilgrims now wished to work because they got to keep the benefits of their labor. “Instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God…. Any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.”

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

Why would anybody think people choose to be poor?

It's a mix of Capitalism, environment, and genes, that create class inequality.

 

[francoHFW]

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

William Bradford, the colony’s governor its first 30 years, wrote of the agreement between the Pilgrim passengers and the financial “Adventurers” in his book Of Plymouth Plantation. He noted that the seven-year contract signed July 1, 1620, before leaving Plymouth England, stipulated that the Pilgrims were to pool, for common benefit, “all profits and benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any person or persons…” It further noted “that at the end of the seven years, the capital and profits, viz. the houses, lands, goods and chattels, be equally divided betwixt the Adventurers and Planters…” During this time the colonists were to “have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock and goods of the said colony.” It doesn’t get more socialistic than this because the government divvied out the goods and loafers received the same as those who worked.

The first two years the result was shortages and starvation. About half the colonists died. No one did more than the minimal because the incentive to excel was destroyed. The industrious were neutralized. Bradford wrote of the scarcity of food “no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any.” The socialist experiment Bradford added, “was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to the benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense….” In other words, socialism made strong men lazy. In another book written by the same author, History of Plymouth Plantation, Bradford spoke of another problem because of the government created famine—thievery. Even in this Christian community, “much was stolen both by night and day….”

After two years of such, with the survival of the colony at stake, they contemplated upon “how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery.” They opted to abandon the incentive killing socialist contract in favor of the free market. And so they “assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end…”

The effects were almost immediate. A delighted Governor Bradford wrote: “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor… could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.” In other words, the free market is a much greater stimulus than governmental force. The Pilgrims now wished to work because they got to keep the benefits of their labor. “Instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God…. Any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.”

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

Of course not... We used to call them the unfortunate before that s*** head Raygun.

 

[BookShaka]

I was non-partisan the first 39 years, but recently registered Republican. Unless things change drastically, which from here looks impossible, I'll finish a Republican.

I can no longer bring myself to vote Democrat for anyone short of Jesus Christ himself. A vote for Democrat is a vote to eliminate the middle class for one-world order, a chaotic society, propaganda, dishonesty and twisted thinking.

BTW Dems., you had a good one in Jim Webb. He didn't stand a chance with "progress"ive Democrats. Probably better he lost anyway, because Trump's kicking ass.

These threads always crack me up.

Suddenly, I'm white and on the side of the Aryan Nation, the American Nazi Party, the KKK and White Nationalists.

Why?

Because Democrats have this authoritarian party without a leader because they are a coalition party of minorities.

As if that makes sense.

Your threads make everyone crack up... or hit their head against the nearest wall.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I'm the retard?

1.) You don't grasp how ALL economies require different skill sets, the big problem is Capitalism in it's more pure form believes the market shall set the wages, therefor NO MATTER how ambitious, educated, creative, intelligent, knowledgeable, or skilled there will still be an economy that requires toilet scrubbers, burger flippers, lawn-mowers, Wal-Mart greeters etc.
WHO WOULD be paid scab wages, despite often times working harder, more honest, and more favorably for the economy than Wall-Street pr(cks keep in mind.

2.)You don't understand genes / biology, either.
Look at people with Down Syndrome, or MS, Schizophrenia or Lou Gehrigs disease, as if that's all choices, yeah right.

3.) You're assuming Blacks, and Whites have equal ability, nope, no evidence for that, the Book the Bell-Curve was a big blow for that.
Furthermore, if you think about it the fact that Africa's so far behind countries who went through worse problems like China, Ukraine, Poland, etc, etc. also makes the case against equality in amassing wealth.

I'm the retard?

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming.

FDR was a Socialist (Fascist) type guy actually, and achieved the #1 economic growth period in 20th century U.S history, the big question becomes then how come?

I think you are misusing the word fascism.

Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

FDR was the closest U.S.A President to a Fascist, in all aspects.

He was for Public works like the Fascists championed.

He was for intervention, regulation, and control over the Capitalist economy like Fascists are.

He was also pretty forceful, and prejudiced, when he put Japanese in internment camps.

Explain what U.S.A President is more of a Fascist than FDR?

 

[sealybobo]

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

William Bradford, the colony’s governor its first 30 years, wrote of the agreement between the Pilgrim passengers and the financial “Adventurers” in his book Of Plymouth Plantation. He noted that the seven-year contract signed July 1, 1620, before leaving Plymouth England, stipulated that the Pilgrims were to pool, for common benefit, “all profits and benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any person or persons…” It further noted “that at the end of the seven years, the capital and profits, viz. the houses, lands, goods and chattels, be equally divided betwixt the Adventurers and Planters…” During this time the colonists were to “have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock and goods of the said colony.” It doesn’t get more socialistic than this because the government divvied out the goods and loafers received the same as those who worked.

The first two years the result was shortages and starvation. About half the colonists died. No one did more than the minimal because the incentive to excel was destroyed. The industrious were neutralized. Bradford wrote of the scarcity of food “no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any.” The socialist experiment Bradford added, “was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to the benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense….” In other words, socialism made strong men lazy. In another book written by the same author, History of Plymouth Plantation, Bradford spoke of another problem because of the government created famine—thievery. Even in this Christian community, “much was stolen both by night and day….”

After two years of such, with the survival of the colony at stake, they contemplated upon “how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery.” They opted to abandon the incentive killing socialist contract in favor of the free market. And so they “assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end…”

The effects were almost immediate. A delighted Governor Bradford wrote: “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor… could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.” In other words, the free market is a much greater stimulus than governmental force. The Pilgrims now wished to work because they got to keep the benefits of their labor. “Instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God…. Any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.”

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

How about relocate manufacturing facilities from Mexico to Detroit or Chicago so those people in poverty have some economic opportunity?

No I don't think poor people choose to be poor. My dad would have been poor had he not got lucky and got a job at Ford Motor. He would have been a minimum wage cook.

No one chooses to stay in poverty. They were most likely born into it and not raised right.

Today my company finally hired a black person. I'm so happy/proud. I wish more corporations were hiring blacks.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming.

FDR was a Socialist (Fascist) type guy actually, and achieved the #1 economic growth period in 20th century U.S history, the big question becomes then how come?

I think you are misusing the word fascism.

Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

FDR was the closest U.S.A President to a Fascist, in all aspects.

He was for Public works like the Fascists championed.

He was for intervention, regulation, and control over the Capitalist economy like Fascists are.

He was also pretty forceful, and prejudiced, when he put Japanese in internment camps.

Explain what U.S.A President is more of a Fascist than FDR?

Obama

 

[night_son]

I was non-partisan the first 39 years, but recently registered Republican. Unless things change drastically, which from here looks impossible, I'll finish a Republican.

I can no longer bring myself to vote Democrat for anyone short of Jesus Christ himself. A vote for Democrat is a vote to eliminate the middle class for one-world order, a chaotic society, propaganda, dishonesty and twisted thinking.

BTW Dems., you had a good one in Jim Webb. He didn't stand a chance with "progress"ive Democrats. Probably better he lost anyway, because Trump's kicking ass.

You are fooling yourself if you think either party gives a rats ass about the middle class.

Damn, Croc I agree with you for once, my scaly prehistoric reptilian-descended golfer. In so far as while I listen to some Iron Maiden my mood is unusually light—for a Monday. No, but really, you make a salient enough proposition in pointing out both sides of our American political coin have mainstream branded themselves into low calorie social products which taste worse than diet Tab. We need some flavor in here.

 

[sealybobo]

Yes, now that you have recognized that, then there is hope for you yet.....Since you are a fascist , your way of dealing with Down Syndrome and other mentally challenged people is to kill them before they are born then there is no suffering. Hitler did it in his way killing over 6 million innocent people.
In America, people can use their God given talents and achieve greatness. In Socialist/Fascist/Communist/Marxist, etc.. countries the people are supposed to be STUPID that way the government can control them better.

Let me show you someone who over came his challenges and with great success. If he can do it, why cant lazy fucks like you do it? Oh yeah, LAZY.

[/img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Stephen_Hawking_050506.jpg[/img]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming.

FDR was a Socialist (Fascist) type guy actually, and achieved the #1 economic growth period in 20th century U.S history, the big question becomes then how come?

I think you are misusing the word fascism.

Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

FDR was the closest U.S.A President to a Fascist, in all aspects.

He was for Public works like the Fascists championed.

He was for intervention, regulation, and control over the Capitalist economy like Fascists are.

He was also pretty forceful, and prejudiced, when he put Japanese in internment camps.

Explain what U.S.A President is more of a Fascist than FDR?

Being in favor of public works and regulating the economy isn't being a fascist. Do you think we should not regulate industry? Are you against public works? What ISM are you? Every country regulates industry. So is every country fascist?

The Business Plot was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933 in the United States. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler claimed that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with Butler as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In 1934, Butler testified before the United States House of Representatives Special Committee on Un-American Activities (the "McCormack-Dickstein Committee") on these claims. No one was prosecuted.


"You Can't Govern if You Don't Believe in Government"

Bush was more of a fascist.

The Bush administration is the most authoritarian presidency in living memory. Witness the USA Patriot Act and other measures that shred civil liberties, the mass round-ups of South Asian and Middle Eastern men, the systematic -- and now openly defended -- use of torture and warrantless wiretapping. Witness the proclamation of permanent warfare, the invasion and occupation of two sovereign nations, the claim that the United States can rightfully invade and conquer just to block a possible threat. Witness the blend of apocalyptic nationalism and religious zealotry that divides the whole world into absolutes of Good and Evil. And, many would argue, witness the suppression of voting results and political manipulation of the courts that put Bush in the White House to begin with.

Is the Bush Administration Fascist?, by <a href=

I'm not going to cut and paste everything. Read it Is the Bush Administration Fascist?, by <a href=

 

[sealybobo]

Many have accused Donald Trump of being a fascist. He was endorsed by self-proclaimed fascists, his father participated in KKK rallies, and he has openly supported fascists.

Fascism in North America - Wikipedia

 

[night_son]

I was non-partisan the first 39 years, but recently registered Republican. Unless things change drastically, which from here looks impossible, I'll finish a Republican.

I can no longer bring myself to vote Democrat for anyone short of Jesus Christ himself. A vote for Democrat is a vote to eliminate the middle class for one-world order, a chaotic society, propaganda, dishonesty and twisted thinking.

BTW Dems., you had a good one in Jim Webb. He didn't stand a chance with "progress"ive Democrats. Probably better he lost anyway, because Trump's kicking ass.

Congratulations. Welcome aboard the not burning, not sinking good ship Americana. I am a paleoconservative who sometimes identifies as a crow, other times as a werewolf. So far, I haven't had much luck convincing my health insurance provider to spring doe for the species reassignment surgery. Squawk! Howl! See? I'm all confused over here.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

William Bradford, the colony’s governor its first 30 years, wrote of the agreement between the Pilgrim passengers and the financial “Adventurers” in his book Of Plymouth Plantation. He noted that the seven-year contract signed July 1, 1620, before leaving Plymouth England, stipulated that the Pilgrims were to pool, for common benefit, “all profits and benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any person or persons…” It further noted “that at the end of the seven years, the capital and profits, viz. the houses, lands, goods and chattels, be equally divided betwixt the Adventurers and Planters…” During this time the colonists were to “have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock and goods of the said colony.” It doesn’t get more socialistic than this because the government divvied out the goods and loafers received the same as those who worked.

The first two years the result was shortages and starvation. About half the colonists died. No one did more than the minimal because the incentive to excel was destroyed. The industrious were neutralized. Bradford wrote of the scarcity of food “no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any.” The socialist experiment Bradford added, “was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to the benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense….” In other words, socialism made strong men lazy. In another book written by the same author, History of Plymouth Plantation, Bradford spoke of another problem because of the government created famine—thievery. Even in this Christian community, “much was stolen both by night and day….”

After two years of such, with the survival of the colony at stake, they contemplated upon “how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery.” They opted to abandon the incentive killing socialist contract in favor of the free market. And so they “assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end…”

The effects were almost immediate. A delighted Governor Bradford wrote: “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor… could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.” In other words, the free market is a much greater stimulus than governmental force. The Pilgrims now wished to work because they got to keep the benefits of their labor. “Instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God…. Any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.”

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

Why would anybody think people choose to be poor?

It's a mix of Capitalism, environment, and genes, that create class inequality.

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

William Bradford, the colony’s governor its first 30 years, wrote of the agreement between the Pilgrim passengers and the financial “Adventurers” in his book Of Plymouth Plantation. He noted that the seven-year contract signed July 1, 1620, before leaving Plymouth England, stipulated that the Pilgrims were to pool, for common benefit, “all profits and benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any person or persons…” It further noted “that at the end of the seven years, the capital and profits, viz. the houses, lands, goods and chattels, be equally divided betwixt the Adventurers and Planters…” During this time the colonists were to “have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock and goods of the said colony.” It doesn’t get more socialistic than this because the government divvied out the goods and loafers received the same as those who worked.

The first two years the result was shortages and starvation. About half the colonists died. No one did more than the minimal because the incentive to excel was destroyed. The industrious were neutralized. Bradford wrote of the scarcity of food “no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any.” The socialist experiment Bradford added, “was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to the benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense….” In other words, socialism made strong men lazy. In another book written by the same author, History of Plymouth Plantation, Bradford spoke of another problem because of the government created famine—thievery. Even in this Christian community, “much was stolen both by night and day….”

After two years of such, with the survival of the colony at stake, they contemplated upon “how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery.” They opted to abandon the incentive killing socialist contract in favor of the free market. And so they “assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end…”

The effects were almost immediate. A delighted Governor Bradford wrote: “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor… could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.” In other words, the free market is a much greater stimulus than governmental force. The Pilgrims now wished to work because they got to keep the benefits of their labor. “Instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God…. Any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.”

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

Of course not... We used to call them the unfortunate before that s*** head Raygun.

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

William Bradford, the colony’s governor its first 30 years, wrote of the agreement between the Pilgrim passengers and the financial “Adventurers” in his book Of Plymouth Plantation. He noted that the seven-year contract signed July 1, 1620, before leaving Plymouth England, stipulated that the Pilgrims were to pool, for common benefit, “all profits and benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any person or persons…” It further noted “that at the end of the seven years, the capital and profits, viz. the houses, lands, goods and chattels, be equally divided betwixt the Adventurers and Planters…” During this time the colonists were to “have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock and goods of the said colony.” It doesn’t get more socialistic than this because the government divvied out the goods and loafers received the same as those who worked.

The first two years the result was shortages and starvation. About half the colonists died. No one did more than the minimal because the incentive to excel was destroyed. The industrious were neutralized. Bradford wrote of the scarcity of food “no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any.” The socialist experiment Bradford added, “was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to the benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense….” In other words, socialism made strong men lazy. In another book written by the same author, History of Plymouth Plantation, Bradford spoke of another problem because of the government created famine—thievery. Even in this Christian community, “much was stolen both by night and day….”

After two years of such, with the survival of the colony at stake, they contemplated upon “how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery.” They opted to abandon the incentive killing socialist contract in favor of the free market. And so they “assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end…”

The effects were almost immediate. A delighted Governor Bradford wrote: “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor… could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.” In other words, the free market is a much greater stimulus than governmental force. The Pilgrims now wished to work because they got to keep the benefits of their labor. “Instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God…. Any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.”

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

How about relocate manufacturing facilities from Mexico to Detroit or Chicago so those people in poverty have some economic opportunity?

No I don't think poor people choose to be poor. My dad would have been poor had he not got lucky and got a job at Ford Motor. He would have been a minimum wage cook.

No one chooses to stay in poverty. They were most likely born into it and not raised right.

Today my company finally hired a black person. I'm so happy/proud. I wish more corporations were hiring blacks.

So NOBODY chooses to be poor?
Ask anybody wealthy how they became wealthy and they will ALL say “I made good CHOICES throughout my life.”
Ask anybody truthful and poor how they became poor and if they will ALL tell you “I made bad choices along the way.”
You bleeding heart wacks can’t be serious...right?
You realize Father Government can’t make decisions for people...right?

 

[sealybobo]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming.

FDR was a Socialist (Fascist) type guy actually, and achieved the #1 economic growth period in 20th century U.S history, the big question becomes then how come?

I think you are misusing the word fascism.

Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

FDR was the closest U.S.A President to a Fascist, in all aspects.

He was for Public works like the Fascists championed.

He was for intervention, regulation, and control over the Capitalist economy like Fascists are.

He was also pretty forceful, and prejudiced, when he put Japanese in internment camps.

Explain what U.S.A President is more of a Fascist than FDR?

Obama

Trump Is Now Openly Supporting Fascists

How fascist is Donald Trump? There’s actually a formula for that.

The Chinese Communist Party’s attempt to allow President Xi Jinping to rule indefinitely set off harsh criticism in China, as well as international opprobrium. But the power grab appears to have at least one fan: Donald Trump.


“He’s now president for life. President for life. No, he’s great,” Trump said of Xi at a lunch and fundraiser at his Mar-a-Lago estate, according to CNN, which obtained a recording of the remarks. “And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot some day.”

Donald Trump’s fascist ideas have an audience.

 

[sealybobo]

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

Why would anybody think people choose to be poor?

It's a mix of Capitalism, environment, and genes, that create class inequality.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

Of course not... We used to call them the unfortunate before that s*** head Raygun.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

How about relocate manufacturing facilities from Mexico to Detroit or Chicago so those people in poverty have some economic opportunity?

No I don't think poor people choose to be poor. My dad would have been poor had he not got lucky and got a job at Ford Motor. He would have been a minimum wage cook.

No one chooses to stay in poverty. They were most likely born into it and not raised right.

Today my company finally hired a black person. I'm so happy/proud. I wish more corporations were hiring blacks.

So NOBODY chooses to be poor?
Ask anybody wealthy how they became wealthy and they will ALL say “I made good CHOICES throughout my life.”
Ask anybody truthful and poor how they became poor and if they will ALL tell you “I made bad choices along the way.”
You bleeding heart wacks can’t be serious...right?
You realize Father Government can’t make decisions for people...right?

No but they could put manufacturing facilities in our inner cities instead of in Mexico and then people could CHOOSE to work because there would be good jobs available.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Iceland has basically wiped out Down-Syndrome that way.

Why do you think Down Syndrome people should exist, but then complain when the state has to pay for them?

Maybe you're Down Syndrome yourself?

You still don't grasp the Capitalist economy, and haven't grasped that Capitalism creates winners, and losers so long as the market sets the wages for the people.

You dumb Republicans complain about people taking social programs, or asking more from their employers too.

It seems you have no feasible solutions, you're cruel, and uncivilized, you support an America where people die from hunger, or die of lack of healthcare due to treatable diseases.

So your answer is that all people should be paid the same? A doctor should be paid the same as a bread maker? A movie star the same as a burger flipper? You are one stupid fucking idiot, as SOCIALISM was already tried in America and went down in defeat and almost stopped the United States from ever forming. You know what saved the US and made it the country that defeated Fascism and Emperor in WWII?

William Bradford, the colony’s governor its first 30 years, wrote of the agreement between the Pilgrim passengers and the financial “Adventurers” in his book Of Plymouth Plantation. He noted that the seven-year contract signed July 1, 1620, before leaving Plymouth England, stipulated that the Pilgrims were to pool, for common benefit, “all profits and benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means of any person or persons…” It further noted “that at the end of the seven years, the capital and profits, viz. the houses, lands, goods and chattels, be equally divided betwixt the Adventurers and Planters…” During this time the colonists were to “have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock and goods of the said colony.” It doesn’t get more socialistic than this because the government divvied out the goods and loafers received the same as those who worked.

The first two years the result was shortages and starvation. About half the colonists died. No one did more than the minimal because the incentive to excel was destroyed. The industrious were neutralized. Bradford wrote of the scarcity of food “no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they might expect any.” The socialist experiment Bradford added, “was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to the benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense….” In other words, socialism made strong men lazy. In another book written by the same author, History of Plymouth Plantation, Bradford spoke of another problem because of the government created famine—thievery. Even in this Christian community, “much was stolen both by night and day….”

After two years of such, with the survival of the colony at stake, they contemplated upon “how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery.” They opted to abandon the incentive killing socialist contract in favor of the free market. And so they “assigned to every family a parcel of land, according to the proportion of their number, for that end…”

The effects were almost immediate. A delighted Governor Bradford wrote: “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor… could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.” In other words, the free market is a much greater stimulus than governmental force. The Pilgrims now wished to work because they got to keep the benefits of their labor. “Instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God…. Any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.”

Every fucking place Socialism has gone full tilt, the country has declined into poverty and misery, except for the handful of elites who took all the money. People like you, are the reason why elites stay in power, because you are too stupid to know better, and wont use your God given gifts to get any better....

You still don't get it.

Capitalism will require more burger flippers than doctors, even if everyone had a Doctor's PhD, they'd still be flipping burgers, because that's what the economy demands.

I've mentioned this several times, and it obviously went over your head.

So long as the economy requires different job skills all over, and we let the market regulate the pay, then there will be winners, and losers.

Not, that I'm so against that.

I just don't think it's Patriotic to let your people die from poverty, be it hunger, or treatable diseases, due to lack of healthcare.

So long as we can foot the tab, we should be taking care of our own people.

Republicans have different ideals, however.

I agree.

Yesterday a USMB Republican was mocking anyone who's making less than $50K in this great economy. I asked him if he was really shitting on all the Walmart and McD employees Trump duped into voting for him. They make way less than $50K. To me his comment was just as bad as Hillary's Deplorable comment.

So he should explain to me why anyone who makes less than $50K should vote GOP.

The only reason the GOP wins elections is because people who make less than $50K don't vote. And some of them (Red States) vote GOP. So I no longer care about people in poverty. They need to care about themselves. What's the first step in doing that? VOTE!

This tone is always so fascinating...what is it that you think either party does or can do for the poverty stricken that would make a measurable difference?
Do you honestly believe that poor people haven’t chosen to be poor?

How about relocate manufacturing facilities from Mexico to Detroit or Chicago so those people in poverty have some economic opportunity?

No I don't think poor people choose to be poor. My dad would have been poor had he not got lucky and got a job at Ford Motor. He would have been a minimum wage cook.

No one chooses to stay in poverty. They were most likely born into it and not raised right.

Today my company finally hired a black person. I'm so happy/proud. I wish more corporations were hiring blacks.

Uhm read a history book, those jobs where in Chicago and Detroit. You dumb ass democrats ran them away.


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