In France, extreme gun laws make sure only cops and criminals have guns...

2aguy

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So, these two morons in France use a shotgun to rob a McDonalds.......sadly for them, the place is filled with French anti-terror police special operators........

this story shows a couple of things...

--extreme French gun control does not stop criminals from using guns for crime

--when you ban guns only cops and criminals will have them

--France puts gun criminals in jail for 7 years...in the U.S., felons caught with guns are out in under 3 years....

What Happens When Gunmen Try To Rob The WRONG McDonald's is EPIC

The two men burst into the fast food location in eastern France, firing a shotgun in the air, only to find themselves in the company of 11 off-duty members of the country’s elite anti-terror force.
 
Compare the French and American gun murder rates per capita.


And that means nothing. French criminals have easy access to guns, yet do not use them to commit murder.

Thug culture is different in the United States and France, that is why there is a difference in gun murder rates...in fact, our non gun murder rate is higher than their total murder rate........so guns aren't the issue.
 
Compare the French and American gun murder rates per capita.



That doesn't matter to our most crazed gun nutters. Just like if France has fewer suicides by gun, accidental shootings, domestic violence using guns etc, it's like that lack of gun violence doesn't mean anything.

As long as ONE criminal gets their hands on a gun, then everybody needs a gun.

Crazy shit.
 
Compare the French and American gun murder rates per capita.



That doesn't matter to our most crazed gun nutters. Just like if France has fewer suicides by gun, accidental shootings, domestic violence using guns etc, it's like that lack of gun violence doesn't mean anything.

As long as ONE criminal gets their hands on a gun, then everybody needs a gun.

Crazy shit.


What part of the fact that the United States had a higher non gun murder rate than France don't you twits get....it isn't guns that are the problem...it is our inner city thug culture....fix that and our gun crime is lower than France...

Here....FBI table 8 expanded homicide data....look at our non gun murder rate...v. our gun murder rate..

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

2014

gun murder 8,124

non gun murder 3,837

France 2013..total murder 777

Twits.
 
Compare the French and American gun murder rates per capita.


And that means nothing. French criminals have easy access to guns, yet do not use them to commit murder.

Thug culture is different in the United States and France, that is why there is a difference in gun murder rates...in fact, our non gun murder rate is higher than their total murder rate........so guns aren't the issue.
It means everything.

And your unwillingness to debate it fairly means your OP is bust.
 
Compare the French and American gun murder rates per capita.



That doesn't matter to our most crazed gun nutters. Just like if France has fewer suicides by gun, accidental shootings, domestic violence using guns etc, it's like that lack of gun violence doesn't mean anything.

As long as ONE criminal gets their hands on a gun, then everybody needs a gun.

Crazy shit.


Hey moron........do you realize that France has a higher suicide rate than the United States.....twit......
 
Compare the French and American gun murder rates per capita.


And that means nothing. French criminals have easy access to guns, yet do not use them to commit murder.

Thug culture is different in the United States and France, that is why there is a difference in gun murder rates...in fact, our non gun murder rate is higher than their total murder rate........so guns aren't the issue.
It means everything.

And your unwillingness to debate it means your OP is bust.


Wrong....their total murder rate is less than our non gun murder rate....guns are not the issue...thug culture is the difference....their criminals and terrorists get guns easily...they just don't commit murder with them the way our thugs do.
 
France has about 1/5th the population of America with about 15% of the murders of America.

Do the math.
 
Compare the French and American gun murder rates per capita.



That doesn't matter to our most crazed gun nutters. Just like if France has fewer suicides by gun, accidental shootings, domestic violence using guns etc, it's like that lack of gun violence doesn't mean anything.

As long as ONE criminal gets their hands on a gun, then everybody needs a gun.

Crazy shit.


Here you go moron...notice all the European countries...with extreme gun control laws, and higher suicide rates than we have....

Guns are not the issue....culture is the issue.

World suicide rates by country

World suicide rates by country

Per 100,000


Hungary ... 21.0
Belgium .... 18.4
Finland... 16.5
France... 14.6
Poland... 13.8
Austria... 13.8
Czech Republic... 12.7
New Zealand.... 11.9
Denmark... 11.3
Sweden..............11.1
Norway...............10.9
Iceland................10.4
Germany.............10.3
Canada...............10.2

United States.......10.1

And another list....
Here Are The Countries With The Worst Suicide Rates
 
France has about 1/5th the population of America with about 15% of the murders of America.

Do the math.


And they don't have the thug culture that we do....our thugs murder over facebook insults...they murder 9 year olds because the kids father, a gang member, killed the murderers brother....and is still walking the streets....

thug culture determines the murder rate...

we have over 357,000,000 guns in the united states.....a tiny, tiny number of them are used in crime....and the ones using them for murder...90% of them are criminals with multiple felony convictions who cannot legally own the guns in the first place...who have usually been stopped carrying illegal guns even as felons, but are allowed to walk the streets anyway...and then they commit murder...
 
This is why 2aguy is so easy to reveal his agenda. He says it is culture but can't prove it.

Gun laws there work obviously, according to the stats.

Suicide is another issue completely. The tool used for suicide is not relative to the numbers.


And how do you explain that in the United States....as more Americans own and carry guns, our gun murder rate, our gun crime rate, our violent crime rate went down....

in 2007 4.7 million people carried guns for self defense....in 2016 13 million people carry guns for self defense....and our gun murder rate went down, not up...

So normal people, carrying legal guns in public did not increase the gun murder rate.....

Guns are not the issue...

In Britain...they confiscated guns...their gun murder rate did not change.....
 
This is why 2aguy is so easy to reveal his agenda. He says it is culture but can't prove it.

Gun laws there work obviously, according to the stats.

Suicide is another issue completely. The tool used for suicide is not relative to the numbers.


Moron......wilbur the dunce just said they have less guns and less gun suicide...but they have more suicide than we do...guns are not the issue in suicide...but you have to throw it in to get the gun death numbers up....
 
This is why 2aguy is so easy to reveal his agenda. He says it is culture but can't prove it.

Gun laws there work obviously, according to the stats.

Suicide is another issue completely. The tool used for suicide is not relative to the numbers.


Twit.....their murder rate has always been low...except when they sent their unarmed citizens to German gas chambers....but they have always had a low murder rate...

And again...their total murder rate is lower than our non gun murder rate....

our thugs commit murder because it is part of their culture.....guns are easily acquired in France.
 
This is why 2aguy is so easy to reveal his agenda. He says it is culture but can't prove it.

Gun laws there work obviously, according to the stats.

Suicide is another issue completely. The tool used for suicide is not relative to the numbers or the discussion about murders.
 
France has about 1/5th the population of America with about 15% of the murders of America.

Do the math.


And of course there are countries that have higher gun murder rates and extreme gun control...

Normal people with guns are not shooting people...what is it about that that you don't get? You can put guns in every Amish home and they won't shoot anyone.....it is the thug culture in this country that drives our gun murder rate.....

We have over 357,000,000 guns in private hands.....and only 8,124 gun murders, again, the shooters are 90% felons with long criminal records and 70-80% of the victims are also felons with multiple felonies.....

so the actual number of innocent people murdered by guns is about 1,642


So less than 8,124 guns out of 357,000,000 million guns in private hands are used to commit murder...

And each year of those 357,000,000 guns in private hands 1,500,000 are used to actually stop violent criminal attack and save lives......

Britain banned and confiscated guns.......their violent crime rate is at least 2x what our rate is, and their gun crime is the same level as it was before they confiscated their guns...in fact their violent crime rate was up 27% last year, they are now arming more of their police and they are conducting armed patrols in high gun crime areas.....and their gun crime rate went up 4%......

All in a country that actually confiscated their guns....
 
2aguy is an one issue guy and just as goofy as Dale Smith and his "gubermint."


You mean other than the facts, the truth, the statistics and the reality that I actually bring to the discussion of gun issues in this country...while you guys lie, distort and rely on emotion for your arguments......?

You mean other than that...right?
 
So, these two morons in France use a shotgun to rob a McDonalds.......sadly for them, the place is filled with French anti-terror police special operators........

this story shows a couple of things...

--extreme French gun control does not stop criminals from using guns for crime

--when you ban guns only cops and criminals will have them

--France puts gun criminals in jail for 7 years...in the U.S., felons caught with guns are out in under 3 years....

What Happens When Gunmen Try To Rob The WRONG McDonald's is EPIC

The two men burst into the fast food location in eastern France, firing a shotgun in the air, only to find themselves in the company of 11 off-duty members of the country’s elite anti-terror force.
What do you expect? The French motto is - I surrender...
 

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