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We are only obligated if our leaders and voting public decide to make a law around it. It appears that allowing Dreamers to stay in this country is supported by a large majority of Americans. So those of us that support that action is supporting a law that will make it happen. The Dream Act is in the works along with a few other plans in congress. Lets hope they move quickly.Make DACA law but tie it to a strong border security act, as well. You should not have one without the other.
Little confused as to why we "should" have DACA at all. Not necessarily saying we shouldn't, just saying I don't feel that there's an OBLIGATION for us to have it.
Why would you leave out this part?What law did he break? Read your own articles dude.DREAMer Deportation Case Raises Questions On Trump's Deferred Action PolicyYeah, it happened to those who broke the law per the directive. Show me an example of 1 person who was under DACA and got deported without being accused of breaking any laws.Yes I read it and the authors opinion is just that, his poorly written opinion. Now, here is what actual lawyers state. Deportation relief doesn't constitute protection as Mrs. Collopy points out "enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration". Enforcement action could have taken place at any time, and for some 300-400 it did happen to them.Did you even read that article that you linked to that proved absolutely nothing? haha, what a joke. Here is a nice line from the article you just referenced.There was no directive of protection, if there was they wouldn't have been deported, and no, they all didn't get deported for committing a crime. SMFH They were simply low priority.
Immigration Lawyers to Outraged Dems: Where Were You When Obama Deported Kids?
Great job Obama!
"Obama put DACA in place to provide temporary protection from deportation and work permits to people..."
You gonna keep digging?
Deportation relief is not equivalent to legal status, notes Dree Collopy, an immigration lawyer in Washington, D.C. But enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration.
Here it says they weren't priorities to begin with.
“Generally, these people weren’t going to be priorities to begin with. They’re generally going to be younger people who have been here for a long time and have no criminal record,” said John Sandweg, who previously served as the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “They’re not somebody we wanted ICE agents to waste time on.” With the finite resources ICE has, the population is not one an administration wants “to waste resources on from an enforcement perspective,” he added.
Here Johnson advises CBP and ICE to excercise discretion on a case by case basis.
None of this protects DACA, as noted from Kelley, some had been arrested in recent weeks.In 2014, then-DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson announced that the administration would focus on removing undocumented immigrants with criminal records. This would exclude DACA members since to qualify, individuals cannot be “convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor, three or more other misdemeanors,” or “pose a threat to national security or public safety.” U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services, which grants DACA status, advises Customs and Border Patrol and ICE to “exercise their discretion on a case-by-case basis to prevent qualifying individuals from being apprehended, placed into removal proceedings, or removed.” DHS Secretary John Kelly has said his agency is not targeting DACA recipients, though some have been arrested in recent weeks.
What law did he break?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
"Juan Manuel Montes Bojorquez was apprehended by the Calexico Station Border Patrol after illegally entering the U.S. by climbing over the fence in downtown Calexico. He was arrested by BP just minutes after he made his illegal entry and admitted under oath during the arrest interview that he had entered illegally.
"His DACA status expired in Aug. 2015 and he was notified at that time.
"In addition, he has a conviction for theft for which he received probation."
I also found this gem:
"Montes-Bojorquez, who had twice been granted protection from deportation under DACA"
So I ask again, what crime did he commit?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
So you post a quote after he was originally apprehended and deported. SMFH What I posted was his initial encounter with ICE, and his first removal from the US the day before what you are quoting.What law did he break? Read your own articles dude.DREAMer Deportation Case Raises Questions On Trump's Deferred Action PolicyYeah, it happened to those who broke the law per the directive. Show me an example of 1 person who was under DACA and got deported without being accused of breaking any laws.Yes I read it and the authors opinion is just that, his poorly written opinion. Now, here is what actual lawyers state. Deportation relief doesn't constitute protection as Mrs. Collopy points out "enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration". Enforcement action could have taken place at any time, and for some 300-400 it did happen to them.Did you even read that article that you linked to that proved absolutely nothing? haha, what a joke. Here is a nice line from the article you just referenced.There was no directive of protection, if there was they wouldn't have been deported, and no, they all didn't get deported for committing a crime. SMFH They were simply low priority.
Immigration Lawyers to Outraged Dems: Where Were You When Obama Deported Kids?
Great job Obama!
"Obama put DACA in place to provide temporary protection from deportation and work permits to people..."
You gonna keep digging?
Deportation relief is not equivalent to legal status, notes Dree Collopy, an immigration lawyer in Washington, D.C. But enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration.
Here it says they weren't priorities to begin with.
“Generally, these people weren’t going to be priorities to begin with. They’re generally going to be younger people who have been here for a long time and have no criminal record,” said John Sandweg, who previously served as the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “They’re not somebody we wanted ICE agents to waste time on.” With the finite resources ICE has, the population is not one an administration wants “to waste resources on from an enforcement perspective,” he added.
Here Johnson advises CBP and ICE to excercise discretion on a case by case basis.
None of this protects DACA, as noted from Kelley, some had been arrested in recent weeks.In 2014, then-DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson announced that the administration would focus on removing undocumented immigrants with criminal records. This would exclude DACA members since to qualify, individuals cannot be “convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor, three or more other misdemeanors,” or “pose a threat to national security or public safety.” U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services, which grants DACA status, advises Customs and Border Patrol and ICE to “exercise their discretion on a case-by-case basis to prevent qualifying individuals from being apprehended, placed into removal proceedings, or removed.” DHS Secretary John Kelly has said his agency is not targeting DACA recipients, though some have been arrested in recent weeks.
What law did he break?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
"Juan Manuel Montes Bojorquez was apprehended by the Calexico Station Border Patrol after illegally entering the U.S. by climbing over the fence in downtown Calexico. He was arrested by BP just minutes after he made his illegal entry and admitted under oath during the arrest interview that he had entered illegally.
"His DACA status expired in Aug. 2015 and he was notified at that time.
"In addition, he has a conviction for theft for which he received probation."
I also found this gem:
"Montes-Bojorquez, who had twice been granted protection from deportation under DACA"
You asked what crime was committed... I gave you the reasons why he was deported that included crimes that the government claimed they found. Whether the government was telling the truth or the kid that is not something that I know and it isn't really relevant to our discussion.Why would you leave out this part?What law did he break? Read your own articles dude.DREAMer Deportation Case Raises Questions On Trump's Deferred Action PolicyYeah, it happened to those who broke the law per the directive. Show me an example of 1 person who was under DACA and got deported without being accused of breaking any laws.Yes I read it and the authors opinion is just that, his poorly written opinion. Now, here is what actual lawyers state. Deportation relief doesn't constitute protection as Mrs. Collopy points out "enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration". Enforcement action could have taken place at any time, and for some 300-400 it did happen to them.Did you even read that article that you linked to that proved absolutely nothing? haha, what a joke. Here is a nice line from the article you just referenced.
"Obama put DACA in place to provide temporary protection from deportation and work permits to people..."
You gonna keep digging?
Deportation relief is not equivalent to legal status, notes Dree Collopy, an immigration lawyer in Washington, D.C. But enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration.
Here it says they weren't priorities to begin with.
“Generally, these people weren’t going to be priorities to begin with. They’re generally going to be younger people who have been here for a long time and have no criminal record,” said John Sandweg, who previously served as the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “They’re not somebody we wanted ICE agents to waste time on.” With the finite resources ICE has, the population is not one an administration wants “to waste resources on from an enforcement perspective,” he added.
Here Johnson advises CBP and ICE to excercise discretion on a case by case basis.
None of this protects DACA, as noted from Kelley, some had been arrested in recent weeks.In 2014, then-DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson announced that the administration would focus on removing undocumented immigrants with criminal records. This would exclude DACA members since to qualify, individuals cannot be “convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor, three or more other misdemeanors,” or “pose a threat to national security or public safety.” U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services, which grants DACA status, advises Customs and Border Patrol and ICE to “exercise their discretion on a case-by-case basis to prevent qualifying individuals from being apprehended, placed into removal proceedings, or removed.” DHS Secretary John Kelly has said his agency is not targeting DACA recipients, though some have been arrested in recent weeks.
What law did he break?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
"Juan Manuel Montes Bojorquez was apprehended by the Calexico Station Border Patrol after illegally entering the U.S. by climbing over the fence in downtown Calexico. He was arrested by BP just minutes after he made his illegal entry and admitted under oath during the arrest interview that he had entered illegally.
"His DACA status expired in Aug. 2015 and he was notified at that time.
"In addition, he has a conviction for theft for which he received probation."
I also found this gem:
"Montes-Bojorquez, who had twice been granted protection from deportation under DACA"
So I ask again, what crime did he commit?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
You really shouldn't try to make things fit your narrative, you make yourself look stupid.
You asked for a case where a DACA recipient was deported without committing a crime, I gave you one.You asked what crime was committed... I gave you the reasons why he was deported that included crimes that the government claimed they found. Whether the government was telling the truth or the kid that is not something that I know and it isn't really relevant to our discussion.Why would you leave out this part?What law did he break? Read your own articles dude.DREAMer Deportation Case Raises Questions On Trump's Deferred Action PolicyYeah, it happened to those who broke the law per the directive. Show me an example of 1 person who was under DACA and got deported without being accused of breaking any laws.Yes I read it and the authors opinion is just that, his poorly written opinion. Now, here is what actual lawyers state. Deportation relief doesn't constitute protection as Mrs. Collopy points out "enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration". Enforcement action could have taken place at any time, and for some 300-400 it did happen to them.Here it says they weren't priorities to begin with.
Here Johnson advises CBP and ICE to excercise discretion on a case by case basis.
None of this protects DACA, as noted from Kelley, some had been arrested in recent weeks.
What law did he break?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
"Juan Manuel Montes Bojorquez was apprehended by the Calexico Station Border Patrol after illegally entering the U.S. by climbing over the fence in downtown Calexico. He was arrested by BP just minutes after he made his illegal entry and admitted under oath during the arrest interview that he had entered illegally.
"His DACA status expired in Aug. 2015 and he was notified at that time.
"In addition, he has a conviction for theft for which he received probation."
I also found this gem:
"Montes-Bojorquez, who had twice been granted protection from deportation under DACA"
So I ask again, what crime did he commit?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
You really shouldn't try to make things fit your narrative, you make yourself look stupid.
He was originally deported because he was picked up without any form of ID. He said he left his DACA card at a friends house and couldn't verify his identification. It doesn't make any sense to me why he was dropped off in Mexico, the whole situation seems like it was handled very poorly on DHS's end. But that was the kids story. DHS says that they have no record of that encounter. So it is a he said he said situation.So you post a quote after he was originally apprehended and deported. SMFH What I posted was his initial encounter with ICE, and his first removal from the US the day before what you are quoting.What law did he break? Read your own articles dude.DREAMer Deportation Case Raises Questions On Trump's Deferred Action PolicyYeah, it happened to those who broke the law per the directive. Show me an example of 1 person who was under DACA and got deported without being accused of breaking any laws.Yes I read it and the authors opinion is just that, his poorly written opinion. Now, here is what actual lawyers state. Deportation relief doesn't constitute protection as Mrs. Collopy points out "enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration". Enforcement action could have taken place at any time, and for some 300-400 it did happen to them.Did you even read that article that you linked to that proved absolutely nothing? haha, what a joke. Here is a nice line from the article you just referenced.
"Obama put DACA in place to provide temporary protection from deportation and work permits to people..."
You gonna keep digging?
Deportation relief is not equivalent to legal status, notes Dree Collopy, an immigration lawyer in Washington, D.C. But enforcement action against them was largely avoided under the Obama administration.
Here it says they weren't priorities to begin with.
“Generally, these people weren’t going to be priorities to begin with. They’re generally going to be younger people who have been here for a long time and have no criminal record,” said John Sandweg, who previously served as the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “They’re not somebody we wanted ICE agents to waste time on.” With the finite resources ICE has, the population is not one an administration wants “to waste resources on from an enforcement perspective,” he added.
Here Johnson advises CBP and ICE to excercise discretion on a case by case basis.
None of this protects DACA, as noted from Kelley, some had been arrested in recent weeks.In 2014, then-DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson announced that the administration would focus on removing undocumented immigrants with criminal records. This would exclude DACA members since to qualify, individuals cannot be “convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor, three or more other misdemeanors,” or “pose a threat to national security or public safety.” U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services, which grants DACA status, advises Customs and Border Patrol and ICE to “exercise their discretion on a case-by-case basis to prevent qualifying individuals from being apprehended, placed into removal proceedings, or removed.” DHS Secretary John Kelly has said his agency is not targeting DACA recipients, though some have been arrested in recent weeks.
What law did he break?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
"Juan Manuel Montes Bojorquez was apprehended by the Calexico Station Border Patrol after illegally entering the U.S. by climbing over the fence in downtown Calexico. He was arrested by BP just minutes after he made his illegal entry and admitted under oath during the arrest interview that he had entered illegally.
"His DACA status expired in Aug. 2015 and he was notified at that time.
"In addition, he has a conviction for theft for which he received probation."
I also found this gem:
"Montes-Bojorquez, who had twice been granted protection from deportation under DACA"
Do you really not know how to follow an articles timeline of events? Do you really want to keep trying to make your claims fit your narrative?
I'll ask you yet again, why was he deported? He was hailing a taxi when ICE questioned him, took him in, and within 3 hours was removed.
24 hours later he jumped the wall and was caught EWI (this is what you are quoting) as the reason he was deported, funny that was the second time within 24 hours, and not the original deportation. SMFH
DHS said they have no record of that incident. So it either happened and they are covering it up because it was wrong or the kid was lying about it. Either way it doesn't prove your point. Had they deported him like that then stood by it saying that they had the authority to do it despite his DACA status then you would have a point but that isn't reality.You asked for a case where a DACA recipient was deported without committing a crime, I gave you one.You asked what crime was committed... I gave you the reasons why he was deported that included crimes that the government claimed they found. Whether the government was telling the truth or the kid that is not something that I know and it isn't really relevant to our discussion.Why would you leave out this part?What law did he break? Read your own articles dude.DREAMer Deportation Case Raises Questions On Trump's Deferred Action PolicyYeah, it happened to those who broke the law per the directive. Show me an example of 1 person who was under DACA and got deported without being accused of breaking any laws.
What law did he break?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
"Juan Manuel Montes Bojorquez was apprehended by the Calexico Station Border Patrol after illegally entering the U.S. by climbing over the fence in downtown Calexico. He was arrested by BP just minutes after he made his illegal entry and admitted under oath during the arrest interview that he had entered illegally.
"His DACA status expired in Aug. 2015 and he was notified at that time.
"In addition, he has a conviction for theft for which he received probation."
I also found this gem:
"Montes-Bojorquez, who had twice been granted protection from deportation under DACA"
So I ask again, what crime did he commit?Montes-Bojorquez' suit says he came to this country when he was 9 years old and had been visiting a friend in Calexico, Calif., in mid-February and walking toward a taxi stand when he was approached by an officer from U.S. Customs and Border Protection who asked him for identification.
Montes-Bojorquez said he had left his California identification card and his employment authorization document in a friend's car. Unable to verify that he was covered by DACA, Montes was detained, questioned and asked to sign certain documents. Within three hours he was escorted to the border and left in Mexicali, Mexico.
You really shouldn't try to make things fit your narrative, you make yourself look stupid.
I'll ask again, what crime was committed? He was deported within 3 hours of hailing a taxi, the day before he came over the wall after being deported initially.
You claiming the crime was for his second removal when he was caught coming over the wall doesn't do it. Why was he originally deported within 3 hours of hailing a taxi the day before?
He wasn't dropped off in Mexico. He was in the US in Calexico, ICE has no jurisdiction in Mexico.He was originally deported because he was picked up without any form of ID. He said he left his DACA card at a friends house and couldn't verify his identification. It doesn't make any sense to me why he was dropped off in Mexico, the whole situation seems like it was handled very poorly on DHS's end. But that was the kids story. DHS says that they have no record of that encounter. So it is a he said he said situation.
Not sure what point you are trying to prove by going down this rabbit hole but you are doing a piss poor job of it.
Here is an update:
Feds release new details and admit error in deported 'dreamer' story
Your point is crap and I think you know itHe wasn't dropped off in Mexico. He was in the US in Calexico, ICE has no jurisdiction in Mexico.He was originally deported because he was picked up without any form of ID. He said he left his DACA card at a friends house and couldn't verify his identification. It doesn't make any sense to me why he was dropped off in Mexico, the whole situation seems like it was handled very poorly on DHS's end. But that was the kids story. DHS says that they have no record of that encounter. So it is a he said he said situation.
Not sure what point you are trying to prove by going down this rabbit hole but you are doing a piss poor job of it.
Here is an update:
Feds release new details and admit error in deported 'dreamer' story
I know about the updated story. He also has several people that back up his version of leaving his wallet in his friends car and being dropped off at the taxi stand on the US side of Calexico.
The whole point was that DACA can be deported without first having committed a crime, just as Montes had been, which is what you asked me to show.
:YAWN:Your point is crap and I think you know itHe wasn't dropped off in Mexico. He was in the US in Calexico, ICE has no jurisdiction in Mexico.He was originally deported because he was picked up without any form of ID. He said he left his DACA card at a friends house and couldn't verify his identification. It doesn't make any sense to me why he was dropped off in Mexico, the whole situation seems like it was handled very poorly on DHS's end. But that was the kids story. DHS says that they have no record of that encounter. So it is a he said he said situation.
Not sure what point you are trying to prove by going down this rabbit hole but you are doing a piss poor job of it.
Here is an update:
Feds release new details and admit error in deported 'dreamer' story
I know about the updated story. He also has several people that back up his version of leaving his wallet in his friends car and being dropped off at the taxi stand on the US side of Calexico.
The whole point was that DACA can be deported without first having committed a crime, just as Montes had been, which is what you asked me to show.
Trump could have proposed an immigration reform plan to protect the dreamers, which is the moral and right thing to do, while also rescinding the EO to make the constitutional point.
Why do you have a confederate flag waiving in your footer. What point are you trying to make?Priority #1 - stop giving money to shitheads.
Priority #2 - deport any of the shitheads that Obama illegally allowed to come into this country or stay in this country under the program.
I think the Dreamers are going to be scared. Trump has little option to say unless congress gives them legal status, he'll refer them to the DOJ for deporation like everyone else here illegally
Gonna be a lot of that while Trump fucks over the #MAGA crowd just like he has his three wives.Your duty is to carry out the agenda you promised as a candidate Mr President!
Do not lie to the American people who voted for you to please the neocons, the Manhattan limousine liberals and the Schumers of this world!
Stop listening to the globalists in your WH Mr President
.....before is too late.
Gonna be a lot of that while Trump fucks over the #MAGA crowd just like he has his three wives.Your duty is to carry out the agenda you promised as a candidate Mr President!
Do not lie to the American people who voted for you to please the neocons, the Manhattan limousine liberals and the Schumers of this world!
Stop listening to the globalists in your WH Mr President
.....before is too late.
And why, exactly, would think that I give a fuck?Gonna be a lot of that while Trump fucks over the #MAGA crowd just like he has his three wives.Your duty is to carry out the agenda you promised as a candidate Mr President!
Do not lie to the American people who voted for you to please the neocons, the Manhattan limousine liberals and the Schumers of this world!
Stop listening to the globalists in your WH Mr President
.....before is too late.
I don't talk people like you who sound like ANTIFA .
Sorry.
And why, exactly, would think that I give a fuck?Gonna be a lot of that while Trump fucks over the #MAGA crowd just like he has his three wives.Your duty is to carry out the agenda you promised as a candidate Mr President!
Do not lie to the American people who voted for you to please the neocons, the Manhattan limousine liberals and the Schumers of this world!
Stop listening to the globalists in your WH Mr President
.....before is too late.
I don't talk people like you who sound like ANTIFA .
Sorry.
