Interesting argument against the Ground Zero Mosque

[Shogun]

I'm not conflicted at all.

Number 6

Where's the Muslim equivalent?

maybe you should read the REST of exodus, you dumb bastard...

Exodus 32

25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, "Whoever is for the LORD, come to me." And all the Levites rallied to him.

27 Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' " 28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. 29 Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."






see, THIS is the kind of shit i'm talking about. You clearly have no fucking clue about the bible.

Let's see, if God comes to me in the form of a burning bush and commands me to kill, I will do so, but if God "comes to me" through a crazy minister and commands me to kill I think I will ignore him.


However, this still doesn't explain how you can say that we should both kill and turn the other other cheek? Do I turn the other cheek and THEN kill or can I skip that step depending on circumstances, or what?

1. And, ironically, American muslims have ignored those radical ministers too. Again, you really are not swift on this subject.

2. Maybe you should stop jacking off to amputee porn tonight and crack open the bible for once if you have questions. Like I said, it's pretty clear that you don't know what the hell you are talking about here anyway.

 

[ConHog]

maybe you should read the REST of exodus, you dumb bastard...

Exodus 32

25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, "Whoever is for the LORD, come to me." And all the Levites rallied to him.

27 Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' " 28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. 29 Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."






see, THIS is the kind of shit i'm talking about. You clearly have no fucking clue about the bible.

Let's see, if God comes to me in the form of a burning bush and commands me to kill, I will do so, but if God "comes to me" through a crazy minister and commands me to kill I think I will ignore him.


However, this still doesn't explain how you can say that we should both kill and turn the other other cheek? Do I turn the other cheek and THEN kill or can I skip that step depending on circumstances, or what?

That's very good, I'm glad to hear it.

If a crazy minister told me that God told him to tell me to kill people, I wouldn't listen either.

Why is it so hard for you to except that a majority of Muslims would do the same as you and I, and NOT listen?

Because in 15803 instances since 9/11 Muslims in fact HAVE listened to such. That tells me there is OBVIOUSLY an issue. Why you deny that is beyond reason.

TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

 

[chanel]

Dennis Miller on The Factor said Bloomberg chose to offend the 9/11 families simply because he knows they won't blow up a building in protest. Not so much with Rauf's followers.

O'Reilly says there won't be a contractor in Manhattan willing to work for them. I hope he's right. Let's see how Bloomberg deals with that.

 

[Shogun]

I'm not conflicted at all.

Number 6

Where's the Muslim equivalent?

ps.. THIS is Numbers 6 in it's entirety...

Numbers 6 (King James Version)

Numbers 6

1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

2Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:

3He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.

4All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk.

5All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow.

6All the days that he separateth himself unto the LORD he shall come at no dead body.

7He shall not make himself unclean for his father, or for his mother, for his brother, or for his sister, when they die: because the consecration of his God is upon his head.

8All the days of his separation he is holy unto the LORD.

9And if any man die very suddenly by him, and he hath defiled the head of his consecration; then he shall shave his head in the day of his cleansing, on the seventh day shall he shave it.

10And on the eighth day he shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons, to the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:

11And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, and make an atonement for him, for that he sinned by the dead, and shall hallow his head that same day.

12And he shall consecrate unto the LORD the days of his separation, and shall bring a lamb of the first year for a trespass offering: but the days that were before shall be lost, because his separation was defiled.

13And this is the law of the Nazarite, when the days of his separation are fulfilled: he shall be brought unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:

14And he shall offer his offering unto the LORD, one he lamb of the first year without blemish for a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish for a sin offering, and one ram without blemish for peace offerings,

15And a basket of unleavened bread, cakes of fine flour mingled with oil, and wafers of unleavened bread anointed with oil, and their meat offering, and their drink offerings.

16And the priest shall bring them before the LORD, and shall offer his sin offering, and his burnt offering:

17And he shall offer the ram for a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD, with the basket of unleavened bread: the priest shall offer also his meat offering, and his drink offering.

18And the Nazarite shall shave the head of his separation at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall take the hair of the head of his separation, and put it in the fire which is under the sacrifice of the peace offerings.

19And the priest shall take the sodden shoulder of the ram, and one unleavened cake out of the basket, and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them upon the hands of the Nazarite, after the hair of his separation is shaven:

20And the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: this is holy for the priest, with the wave breast and heave shoulder: and after that the Nazarite may drink wine.

21This is the law of the Nazarite who hath vowed, and of his offering unto the LORD for his separation, beside that that his hand shall get: according to the vow which he vowed, so he must do after the law of his separation.

22And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

23Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel, saying unto them,

24The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

25The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

26The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

27And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel, and I will bless them.


Numbers 6 - PassageLookup - King James Version - BibleGateway.com



WHOOPSY!

What in the hell does the book of Numbers have to do with Thou Shalt Not Kill?

my bad.. It looked like you were citing numbers as the origin of the ten commandments.

However, I DARE you to read the entire chapter from which the ten commandments come from and tell me who killed whom despite an ironic #6 commandment.

 

[ConHog]

maybe you should read the REST of exodus, you dumb bastard...

Exodus 32

25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, "Whoever is for the LORD, come to me." And all the Levites rallied to him.

27 Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' " 28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. 29 Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."






see, THIS is the kind of shit i'm talking about. You clearly have no fucking clue about the bible.

Let's see, if God comes to me in the form of a burning bush and commands me to kill, I will do so, but if God "comes to me" through a crazy minister and commands me to kill I think I will ignore him.


However, this still doesn't explain how you can say that we should both kill and turn the other other cheek? Do I turn the other cheek and THEN kill or can I skip that step depending on circumstances, or what?

1. And, ironically, American muslims have ignored those radical ministers too. Again, you really are not swift on this subject.

2. Maybe you should stop jacking off to amputee porn tonight and crack open the bible for once if you have questions. Like I said, it's pretty clear that you don't know what the hell you are talking about here anyway.

Do you really want to try to make the claim that no Mulsim Americans have committed terrorist acts?

 

[Shogun]

Let's see, if God comes to me in the form of a burning bush and commands me to kill, I will do so, but if God "comes to me" through a crazy minister and commands me to kill I think I will ignore him.


However, this still doesn't explain how you can say that we should both kill and turn the other other cheek? Do I turn the other cheek and THEN kill or can I skip that step depending on circumstances, or what?

That's very good, I'm glad to hear it.

If a crazy minister told me that God told him to tell me to kill people, I wouldn't listen either.

Why is it so hard for you to except that a majority of Muslims would do the same as you and I, and NOT listen?

Because in 15803 instances since 9/11 Muslims in fact HAVE listened to such. That tells me there is OBVIOUSLY an issue. Why you deny that is beyond reason.

TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

a bigoted blog?




ok, you've officially jumped the shark. YOU are done.

 

[Modbert]

So, bible scholar, care to cite the passage in which jebus gathered his army and pillaged Rome?

It's in the Newest Testament, Boedicca 5. It tells the story about how Jesus gathered up a army thanks to his disciples, attacked and pillaged Rome however he was captured in the battle and put on the cross because of it.

 

[ConHog]

Dennis Miller on The Factor said Bloomberg chose to offend the 9/11 families simply because he knows they won't blow up a building in protest. Not so much with Rauf's followers.

O'Reilly says there won't be a contractor in Manhattan willing to work for them. I hope he's right. Let's see how Bloomberg deals with that.

One of the commentators on Fox, I don't remember who, was saying that they don't even have any money lined up to build this thing, plus as you say who's going to work on it? He put the odds at 20% of it ever being built.

 

[Shogun]

Dennis Miller on The Factor said Bloomberg chose to offend the 9/11 families simply because he knows they won't blow up a building in protest. Not so much with Rauf's followers.

O'Reilly says there won't be a contractor in Manhattan willing to work for them. I hope he's right. Let's see how Bloomberg deals with that.

Dennis Miller is a smarmy fuck trying to piece together the failure of his post 9/11 paranoia and laughable leap to the right by making a few jokes. And, I wouldn't put it past christians to react violently to this building once it's there. I guess that kinda deflates Miller's punchline a bit.

Contractors in MANHATTAN? well, I guess it's a good thing those Manhattan contractors are the only ones left in the world..



I'm sure your round two bitch fest will revolve around muslim contractors working to provide the service of construction when, clearly, only christian laborers should be allowed so close to ground zero!

 

[Shogun]

Let's see, if God comes to me in the form of a burning bush and commands me to kill, I will do so, but if God "comes to me" through a crazy minister and commands me to kill I think I will ignore him.


However, this still doesn't explain how you can say that we should both kill and turn the other other cheek? Do I turn the other cheek and THEN kill or can I skip that step depending on circumstances, or what?

1. And, ironically, American muslims have ignored those radical ministers too. Again, you really are not swift on this subject.

2. Maybe you should stop jacking off to amputee porn tonight and crack open the bible for once if you have questions. Like I said, it's pretty clear that you don't know what the hell you are talking about here anyway.

Do you really want to try to make the claim that no Mulsim Americans have committed terrorist acts?

I will easily make the claim that the majority of American muslims have not comitted terrorist acts...

... just as i'll easily claim that the majority of christians don't fuck alter boys in the ass despite...

 

[Modbert]

Dennis Miller on The Factor said Bloomberg chose to offend the 9/11 families simply because he knows they won't blow up a building in protest. Not so much with Rauf's followers.

O'Reilly says there won't be a contractor in Manhattan willing to work for them. I hope he's right. Let's see how Bloomberg deals with that.

Really? Why would someone listen to Dennis Miller for their opinions?

 

[ConHog]

That's very good, I'm glad to hear it.

If a crazy minister told me that God told him to tell me to kill people, I wouldn't listen either.

Why is it so hard for you to except that a majority of Muslims would do the same as you and I, and NOT listen?

Because in 15803 instances since 9/11 Muslims in fact HAVE listened to such. That tells me there is OBVIOUSLY an issue. Why you deny that is beyond reason.

TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

a bigoted blog?




ok, you've officially jumped the shark. YOU are done.

So, you deny those attacks took place? Do you also deny the holocaust?

 

[Shogun]

Dennis Miller on The Factor said Bloomberg chose to offend the 9/11 families simply because he knows they won't blow up a building in protest. Not so much with Rauf's followers.

O'Reilly says there won't be a contractor in Manhattan willing to work for them. I hope he's right. Let's see how Bloomberg deals with that.

One of the commentators on Fox, I don't remember who, was saying that they don't even have any money lined up to build this thing, plus as you say who's going to work on it? He put the odds at 20% of it ever being built.

wishful thinking. The economy, and hungry bellies, will cause plenty of construction workers to show up. Financing isn't a problem either. I'll bet you all of my rep points against what meager amount you have that it will be built.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Let's see, if God comes to me in the form of a burning bush and commands me to kill, I will do so, but if God "comes to me" through a crazy minister and commands me to kill I think I will ignore him.


However, this still doesn't explain how you can say that we should both kill and turn the other other cheek? Do I turn the other cheek and THEN kill or can I skip that step depending on circumstances, or what?

That's very good, I'm glad to hear it.

If a crazy minister told me that God told him to tell me to kill people, I wouldn't listen either.

Why is it so hard for you to except that a majority of Muslims would do the same as you and I, and NOT listen?

Because in 15803 instances since 9/11 Muslims in fact HAVE listened to such. That tells me there is OBVIOUSLY an issue. Why you deny that is beyond reason.

TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

Don't be an asshole. I never denied anything.

How many Islamic terror attacks have been perpetrated by American Muslims?

 

[Shogun]

Because in 15803 instances since 9/11 Muslims in fact HAVE listened to such. That tells me there is OBVIOUSLY an issue. Why you deny that is beyond reason.

TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

a bigoted blog?




ok, you've officially jumped the shark. YOU are done.

So, you deny those attacks took place? Do you also deny the holocaust?

what the fuck are you even talking about now? Of course 9/11 happened you nutjob. Do you want to start having to deny the rampant sex crimes associated with YOUR faith? Oh yea.. THAT doesn't count as a reflection on you personally.. duh..

 

[ConHog]

1. And, ironically, American muslims have ignored those radical ministers too. Again, you really are not swift on this subject.

2. Maybe you should stop jacking off to amputee porn tonight and crack open the bible for once if you have questions. Like I said, it's pretty clear that you don't know what the hell you are talking about here anyway.

Do you really want to try to make the claim that no Mulsim Americans have committed terrorist acts?

I will easily make the claim that the majority of American muslims have not comitted terrorist acts...

... just as i'll easily claim that the majority of christians don't fuck alter boys in the ass despite...

You originally did not say the majorotiy of American Muslims. You said American Muslims with no modifier, indicating the group as a whole. Glad you changed it.

However , even in that you prove the point. Christians don't have to decide to ignore it, because Christian preachers aren't preaching it. Much as white people in Philadelphia don't have to choose to ignore the crazy white guy on the corner talking about killn a ****** and they baby. Because there is no such white guy, but there sure are plenty of crazy Muslim clerics preaching kill non Believers, even here in the USA.


ANd jumping the shark is THE single stupidest metaphor ever written

 

[Shogun]

That's very good, I'm glad to hear it.

If a crazy minister told me that God told him to tell me to kill people, I wouldn't listen either.

Why is it so hard for you to except that a majority of Muslims would do the same as you and I, and NOT listen?

Because in 15803 instances since 9/11 Muslims in fact HAVE listened to such. That tells me there is OBVIOUSLY an issue. Why you deny that is beyond reason.

TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

Don't be an asshole. I never denied anything.

How many Islamic terror attacks have been perpetrated by American Muslims?

cornhole, "ALL OF THEM!!@M!M!!!! rRROWWRRRrrrRRR!"

 

[Shogun]

Do you really want to try to make the claim that no Mulsim Americans have committed terrorist acts?

I will easily make the claim that the majority of American muslims have not comitted terrorist acts...

... just as i'll easily claim that the majority of christians don't fuck alter boys in the ass despite...

You originally did not say the majorotiy of American Muslims. You said American Muslims with no modifier, indicating the group as a whole. Glad you changed it.

However , even in that you prove the point. Christians don't have to decide to ignore it, because Christian preachers aren't preaching it. Much as white people in Philadelphia don't have to choose to ignore the crazy white guy on the corner talking about killn a ****** and they baby. Because there is no such white guy, but there sure are plenty of crazy Muslim clerics preaching kill non Believers, even here in the USA.

now you are just being stupid. I don't have to use the term "majority" when talking about all the christians who don't fuck alter boys in the ass, do I? Of course not.

way to keep leaping over the shark, fonze.




and, sure, there ARE christian preachers who preach fucking kids. Warren Jeffs does this exact thing. I guess.. Nawww... SURELY you don't want to be held accountable for the beliefs and actions of an AMERICAN CHRISTIAN...


face it, dude. You are wrong all day long and have nothing to defend your position with besides hypocritical standards and generalized stereotypes the likes of which you'd cry like a bitch if applied to you.

you are done.

 

[ConHog]

That's very good, I'm glad to hear it.

If a crazy minister told me that God told him to tell me to kill people, I wouldn't listen either.

Why is it so hard for you to except that a majority of Muslims would do the same as you and I, and NOT listen?

Because in 15803 instances since 9/11 Muslims in fact HAVE listened to such. That tells me there is OBVIOUSLY an issue. Why you deny that is beyond reason.

TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

Don't be an asshole. I never denied anything.

How many Islamic terror attacks have been perpetrated by American Muslims?

Who said you denied shit? Can't you follow quotes? I was responding to SHogun's ridiculous assessment that the source of the material invalidated it's truth.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

HAHAHA!@


oh yes.. I know all about the new testement... but, you don't separate yourself from the OT when using Leviticus to marginalize fags, do you? No, I didn't think so. You take both as your written word of god and use both when reading scripture. If this was about jesus fucking christ then you STILL wouldn't have anything to say because you'd be judging and NOT turning the other cheek while putting down your sword, Peter... Again, you silly fucking dogma junkies pick and choose what YOU think validates your opinions despite what we all know is in the bible.

poor guy... need a tissue? umadbro?

When have I ever "marginalize fags"? The OT is history nothing more.

I've seen you post in lots of threads regarding gay marriage and the restriction thereof. Is it pretend time already?

and no, if you think that the OT is nothing more than history to the NT then you've just blasphemed against half of the bible. congrats!

Post the link.