Iowa Passes Six Weeks Abortion Ban

[Couchpotato]

Possible troll alert, enjoys attempting to upset people.

Find that provision yet? Man I thought you'd have had it already since it totally violates the Constitution....

 

[Couchpotato]

No. Besides it's you who doesn't contributes anything constructive to this thread about abortion.

Says the guy not actually talking about the subject at hand and wants to make it about guns rights....

 

[Arlette]

What is constructive about abortion?

It ensures a woman's agency.

 

[Lastamender]

It preserves a woman's agency.

And the babies agency? Did you know that people that support abortion have already been born? Selfish pricks, aren't they?

 

[Arlette]

And the babies agency?

There is no "baby", dear

 

[Stann]

There is definitely pain if the abortion is late in the pregnancy. That’s why limiting it to early is a moral compromise.

Even in late abortions the embryo does not experience pain as we do. It may know it's reviewing unpleasant stimuli at best. Defining unpleasant as a negative experience. Self autonomy doesn't even exist in newborns, it develops over time. External stimuli being the great teacher.

 

[Couchpotato]

Even in late abortions the embryo does not experience pain as we do. It may know it's reviewing unpleasant stimuli at best. Defining unpleasant as a negative experience. Self autonomy doesn't even exist in newborns, it develops over time. External stimuli being the great teacher.

How in the world can you possibly know what an unborn baby feels or doesn't feel during an abortion?

 

[Couchpotato]

Even in late abortions the embryo does not experience pain as we do. It may know it's reviewing unpleasant stimuli at best. Defining unpleasant as a negative experience. Self autonomy doesn't even exist in newborns, it develops over time. External stimuli being the great teacher.

Is this the magical birth canal argument? Where somehow traversing the birth canal changes the baby so it has rights, feels pain, is a person etc etc?

 

[Couchpotato]

There is no "baby", dear

Then what is it inside a woman? And before you say its just a fetus, Fetus, baby, toddler, child, preteen, teen, young adult, adult, middle aged, elderly are all just names we've given to different stages of human development. The fetus inside a woman is a human being. Never does to end up a goat, or a horse or a fish. Every time it's a human.

 

[Arlette]

Then what is it inside a woman? And before you say its just a fetus, Fetus, baby, toddler, child, preteen, teen, young adult, adult, middle aged, elderly are all just names we've given to different stages of human development. The fetus inside a woman is a human being. Never does to end up a goat, or a horse or a fish. Every time it's a human.

It's a future or potential baby. Nothing more. Get yourself an uterus if you don't wanna deal with women

 

[Couchpotato]

It's a future or potential baby. Nothing more. Get yourself an uterus if you don't wanna deal with women

So it's a human then correct? What's different about a baby 30 secs before it's born and when it's born other than location?

 

[Arlette]

So it's a human then correct? What's different about a baby 30 secs before it's born and when it's born other than location?

I have never said otherwise. On the flip side, what about the precious life in the first six or twelve or fifteen weeks?

 

[Couchpotato]

I have never said otherwise. On the flip side, what about the precious life in the first six or twelve or fifteen weeks?

You'll get no argument from me that we shouldnt be killing humans regardless of their age.

 

[Arlette]

You'll get no argument from me that we shouldnt be killing humans regardless of their age.

The GOP doesn't have the balls to sign their own death warrant

 

[Couchpotato]

The GOP doesn't have the balls to sign their own death warrant

This isnt a political argument it's a moral one. Either you believe that child growing in it's mother's womb has intrinsic value or you dont.

 

[Arlette]

This isnt a political argument it's a moral one. Either you believe that child growing in it's mother's womb has intrinsic value or you dont.

Sure it is. The idiots in the GOP just have enough survival instinct to not fully implement the wishes of the American Jesus sow

 

[Couchpotato]

Sure it is. The idiots in the GOP just have enough survival instinct to not fully implement the wishes of the American Jesus sow

I know it's political for you. If your team told you, it was the right thing to do to kill your children after they were born I'm not sure you wouldn't defend it. It's just not for me.

 

[Arlette]

I know it's political for you. If your team told you, it was the right thing to do to kill your children after they were born I'm not sure you wouldn't defend it. It's just not for me.

If abortion isn't for you then don't have one. It's not rocket science

 

[Couchpotato]

If abortion isn't for you then don't have one. It's not rocket science

Im sure all the children we've murdered since 73 would vote against it....

 

[Stann]

Find that provision yet? Man I thought you'd have had it already since it totally violates the Constitution....

Basic Civil Rights covers it. Equality and justice under the law. Constitutions in free nations and states can never have such laws.