IRS: How Many Investigations??

[PoliticalChic]

I don't know which is more fun, watching the phony explanations of how/why the administration didn't/ accidentally did target conservative groups/ all groups/ no groups due to staffers/ orders from the top/ in Cincinnati/ a number of IRS offices......phew......fall like dominoes.....


....or watching the White House spokesman hooked up to a lie detector!!!





1. "Capitol Hill aides [are studying] hundreds of pages of documents related to the IRS scandal in order to prepare their bosses for what will inevitably be a frantic month of June involving multiple simultaneous investigations into government wrongdoing.

2. ....at least four different investigations will be underway.

3. ...at least five different IRS offices including Cincinnati, Ohio; Baltimore, Maryland; Chicago, Illinois and El Monte and Laguna Niguel, California improperly targeted conservative nonprofit groups for extra scrutiny between 2010 and 2012.

4. The IRS’ shenanigans, chronicled in a damning report by Treasury Inspector General J. Russell George, started when a “team of [IRS] specialists” came together in April 2010 to process the tax-exempt nonprofit status of conservative groups that might be “potential political operations” (page 13 of the IG report).

5. ...IRS also launched audits of existing conservative nonprofit groups including the Virginia-based Leadership Institute, demanding to see training materials and personal information about the organization’s 2008 college interns.





6. ...(this reporter is still waiting for Ken Starr to send in his bracket picks) The Daily Caller presents a list of some of our favorite investigations into potential IRS wrongdoing.

1. The House Ways and Means Committee – Oversight Subcommittee

As head of the House Ways and Means Oversight Subcommittee, Republican Louisiana Rep. Charles Boustany has conducted the toughest probe into the IRS scandal so far. Boustany managed to acquire “all communications containing the word ‘tea party,’ ‘patriot,’ or ‘conservative,’” from recently-resigned IRS acting director Steven T. Miller. He also got the names of everyone involved with the improper targeting.


2. The House Oversight Committee


...Issa has been competitive about investigating the IRS scandal. He has said that he is working on the IRS scandal full-time, and he refuses to dismiss the possibility of Treasury Department or even White House involvement.


3. Senate Finance Committee

Democratic Senate Finance Committee chairman Max Baucus is leading that committee’s investigation into the improper targeting. Baucus called the IRS’ conduct “intolerable” and “a clear breach of the public’s trust” and demanded a full investigation,...


4. The IRS!

New IRS commissioner Danny Werfel has pledged to conduct a full investigation into the IRS scandal “to make sure it doesn’t happen again.”
Washington launches four investigations into IRS scandal | The Daily Caller




And....in a related note: "....Democrats' noticeable edge over Republicans in voter trust in the area of government ethics and corruption has disappeared."
Voters Now Trust GOP More on Ethics and Corruption - Rasmussen Reports?



And, for the other side's comment:



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs]Obama-We're the Most Transparent and Ethical Administration in U.S. History! - YouTube[/ame]



Obama today:


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XynIMOmFxF0]LAUREL AND HARDY DANCE TO 'ANOTHER FINE MESS' - YouTube[/ame]

 

[waltky]

Now the IRS is gettin' into the spy business...

IRS Buying Spying Equipment: Covert Cameras in Coffee Trays, Plants
June 10, 2013 – The IRS, currently in the midst of scandals involving the targeting of conservative groups and lavish taxpayer-funded conferences, is ordering surveillance equipment that includes hidden cameras in coffee trays, plants and clock radios.

The IRS wants to secure the surveillance equipment quickly – it posted a solicitation on June 6 and is looking to close the deal by Monday, June 10. The agency already has a company lined up for the order but is not commenting on the details. “The Internal Revenue Service intends to award a Purchase Order to an undisclosed Corporation,” reads the solicitation. “The following descriptions are vague due to the use and nature of the items,” it says. “If you feel that you can provide the following equipment, please respond to this email no later than 4 days after the solicitation date,” the IRS said.

Among the items the agency will purchase are four “Covert Coffee tray(s) with Camera concealment,” and four “Remote surveillance system(s)” with “Built-in DVD Burner and 2 Internal HDDs, cameras.” The IRS also is buying four cameras to hide in plants: “(QTY 4) Plant Concealment Color 700 Lines Color IP Camera Concealment with Single Channel Network Server, supports dual video stream, Poe [Power over Ethernet], software included, case included, router included.”

Finishing out the order are four “Color IP Camera Concealment with single channel network server, supports dual video stream, poe, webviewer and cms software included, audio,” and two “Concealed clock radio.” “Responses to this notice must be received by this office within 3 business days of the date of this synopsis by 2:00 P.M. EST, June 10, 2013,” the IRS said. Interested vendors are to contact Ricardo Carter, a Contract Specialist at the IRS. “If no compelling responses are received, award will be made to the original solicited corporation,” the IRS said. The original solicitation was only available to private companies for bids for 19 business hours.

The notice was posted at 11:07 a.m. on June 6 and had a deadline of 2:00 p.m. on Monday. Taking a normal 9-to-5 work week, the solicitation was open for bids for six hours on Thursday, eight hours on Friday, and five hours on Monday, for a total of 19 hours. The response date was changed on Monday, pushed back to 2:00 p.m. on Tuesday, June 11. The location listed for the solicitation is the IRS’s National Office of Procurement, in Oxon Hill, Md. "The Procurement Office acquires the products and services required to support the IRS mission,” according to its website.

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How does U.S. data collection affect me?
Sun June 9, 2013 > Data collection revelations expand to Internet and credit card data; What's collected apparently differs based on location and citizenship; The information helps stop terror plots, U.S. officials say; Programs have been reviewed by secret court, declared legal, officials say

Government surveillance of telephone records and conversations in the name of national security has long been controversial. The debate, which dates back decades, is back in the news with recent revelations that the U.S. government is collecting telephone records in the United States and some Internet traffic overseas. Here's a primer on what the government is getting, how it affects you and what the legal debate is all about:

I live in the United States. What kinds of records is the government collecting on me?

U.S. officials have acknowledged collecting domestic telephone records containing the time and date of calls and telephone numbers involved. A secret court order published by The Guardian newspaper also indicates the government is getting rough location information and details that would identify the specific handsets used to make mobile calls. That court order names Verizon Business Network Services, but analysts say similar orders are likely in effect for all U.S. carriers, meaning the government has logs of most, if not all, telephone calls. The Wall Street Journal, citing people familiar with NSA activities, reported Friday that the agency has also collected credit card records. But the newspaper couldn't say if that collection effort is continuing or was a one-time effort.

I live overseas. What might the United States have?

If you're a United States citizen or permanent resident living or traveling overseas, the government says it's not collecting anything on you, If it does, the government says, it's incidental and the resulting data is kept under strict controls. But the picture could be different for citizens of other nations living outside the United States. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on Thursday indirectly confirmed a program to collect data generated by overseas customers of some of the largest internet services companies in the world, including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and Apple.

Clapper's statement came Thursday in response to stories in the Washington Post and The Guardian newspaper Thursday reporting the existence of a program called PRISM. The program is designed to collect "audio and video chats, photographs, e-mails, documents" and other materials, The Post reported. The Wall Street Journal, however, said the monitoring doesn't include the contents of messages.

Is the government listening to my phone calls?

Clapper says it's not.

What happens to the records?

 

[Toronado3800]

This IRS thing is pretty terrible.

I ask you to join me in some Patriot Act outrage as well.

Think Obama messed up or poorly appointed his minions?

 

[Mr. H.]

They still make clock radios?

 

[PoliticalChic]

This IRS thing is pretty terrible.

I ask you to join me in some Patriot Act outrage as well.

Think Obama messed up or poorly appointed his minions?

"Think Obama messed up or poorly appointed his minions?"


NO!

What would ever give you the slightest indication that Obama either didn't appoint exactly who he intended to.....

....or that this administration isn't exactly what Obama is???

From a later thread:

"2. What would he like to do with folks who don't agree with him? Well, he selected as his science czar a man who endorsed this: "Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens..... These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar."
John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet





3. This President selected Cass Sunstein as the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) czar. Referred to as OIRA it is one of the most powerful behind-the-scenes jobs a person can have because it reviews nearly every regulation for an administrative state that continues to expand. " Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-”independent” advocates to “cognitively infiltrate” online groups and websites — as well as other activist groups — which advocate views that Sunstein deems “false conspiracy theories” about the Government.... Government’s stealth infiltration should be accomplished by sending covert agents into “chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups.”Obama confidant?s spine-chilling proposal - Salon.com

a. Some “conspiracy theories” recommended for ban by Sunstein include:
• “The theory of global warming is a deliberate fraud.”
• “The view that the Central Intelligence Agency was responsible for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.”
• “The 1996 crash of TWA flight 800 was caused by a U.S. military missile.”
Read more at Top Obama czar: Infiltrate all ?conspiracy theorists?

b. Certainly the "conspiracy theories" would include the view that Bill Ayer was more than 'some guy in the neighborhood.'


Is this a function of our government???




5. Need I add the NSA spying program? According to Edward Snowden, the government has used Booz-Allen, often called the 'outside CIA,' to intrusively spy on every American. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is also a former executive of Booz Allen Hamilton, the private intelligence contractor that self-identified whistleblower Edward Snowdenworked for,...
NSA case exposes tangled web of intelligence work - BizPac Review


a. Clapper lied when asked, under oath, by Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon-Democrat) " On March 12, at a hearing of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Wyden asked Clapper: “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?” Clapper responded: “No, sir.” When Wyden followed up by asking, “It does not?” Clapper said: “Not wittingly. There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect—but not wittingly.” Clapper did not specify at the time that he was referring to e-mail."
James Clapper?s Tip for Avoiding Lies: Don?t Do Talking Points | emptywheel



Need I add Eric Holder, Susan Rice, and Hillary Clinton???


Not an honest bone in the bunch.


This is a thug adminisitration, headed by a thug.

 

[JoeB131]

Helllooo... the Administration has no real say in who the IRS Director is. That guy was appointed by Boooosh.

I just can't get upset that a bunch of Teabaggers didn't get a tax deduction. Neither are most people.

 

[Geaux4it]

This IRS thing is pretty terrible.

I ask you to join me in some Patriot Act outrage as well.

Think Obama messed up or poorly appointed his minions?

"Think Obama messed up or poorly appointed his minions?"


NO!

What would ever give you the slightest indication that Obama either didn't appoint exactly who he intended to.....

....or that this administration isn't exactly what Obama is???

From a later thread:

"2. What would he like to do with folks who don't agree with him? Well, he selected as his science czar a man who endorsed this: "Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens..... These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar."
John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet





3. This President selected Cass Sunstein as the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) czar. Referred to as OIRA it is one of the most powerful behind-the-scenes jobs a person can have because it reviews nearly every regulation for an administrative state that continues to expand. " Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-”independent” advocates to “cognitively infiltrate” online groups and websites — as well as other activist groups — which advocate views that Sunstein deems “false conspiracy theories” about the Government.... Government’s stealth infiltration should be accomplished by sending covert agents into “chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups.”Obama confidant?s spine-chilling proposal - Salon.com

a. Some “conspiracy theories” recommended for ban by Sunstein include:
• “The theory of global warming is a deliberate fraud.”
• “The view that the Central Intelligence Agency was responsible for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.”
• “The 1996 crash of TWA flight 800 was caused by a U.S. military missile.”
Read more at Top Obama czar: Infiltrate all ?conspiracy theorists?

b. Certainly the "conspiracy theories" would include the view that Bill Ayer was more than 'some guy in the neighborhood.'


Is this a function of our government???




5. Need I add the NSA spying program? According to Edward Snowden, the government has used Booz-Allen, often called the 'outside CIA,' to intrusively spy on every American. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is also a former executive of Booz Allen Hamilton, the private intelligence contractor that self-identified whistleblower Edward Snowdenworked for,...
NSA case exposes tangled web of intelligence work - BizPac Review


a. Clapper lied when asked, under oath, by Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon-Democrat) " On March 12, at a hearing of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Wyden asked Clapper: “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?” Clapper responded: “No, sir.” When Wyden followed up by asking, “It does not?” Clapper said: “Not wittingly. There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect—but not wittingly.” Clapper did not specify at the time that he was referring to e-mail."
James Clapper?s Tip for Avoiding Lies: Don?t Do Talking Points | emptywheel



Need I add Eric Holder, Susan Rice, and Hillary Clinton???


Not an honest bone in the bunch.


This is a thug adminisitration, headed by a thug.

You know PC, this thread will not go far when you confuse us with facts

-Geaux

 

[PoliticalChic]

This IRS thing is pretty terrible.

I ask you to join me in some Patriot Act outrage as well.

Think Obama messed up or poorly appointed his minions?

"Think Obama messed up or poorly appointed his minions?"


NO!

What would ever give you the slightest indication that Obama either didn't appoint exactly who he intended to.....

....or that this administration isn't exactly what Obama is???

From a later thread:

"2. What would he like to do with folks who don't agree with him? Well, he selected as his science czar a man who endorsed this: "Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens..... These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar."
John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet





3. This President selected Cass Sunstein as the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) czar. Referred to as OIRA it is one of the most powerful behind-the-scenes jobs a person can have because it reviews nearly every regulation for an administrative state that continues to expand. " Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-”independent” advocates to “cognitively infiltrate” online groups and websites — as well as other activist groups — which advocate views that Sunstein deems “false conspiracy theories” about the Government.... Government’s stealth infiltration should be accomplished by sending covert agents into “chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups.”Obama confidant?s spine-chilling proposal - Salon.com

a. Some “conspiracy theories” recommended for ban by Sunstein include:
• “The theory of global warming is a deliberate fraud.”
• “The view that the Central Intelligence Agency was responsible for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.”
• “The 1996 crash of TWA flight 800 was caused by a U.S. military missile.”
Read more at Top Obama czar: Infiltrate all ?conspiracy theorists?

b. Certainly the "conspiracy theories" would include the view that Bill Ayer was more than 'some guy in the neighborhood.'


Is this a function of our government???




5. Need I add the NSA spying program? According to Edward Snowden, the government has used Booz-Allen, often called the 'outside CIA,' to intrusively spy on every American. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is also a former executive of Booz Allen Hamilton, the private intelligence contractor that self-identified whistleblower Edward Snowdenworked for,...
NSA case exposes tangled web of intelligence work - BizPac Review


a. Clapper lied when asked, under oath, by Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon-Democrat) " On March 12, at a hearing of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Wyden asked Clapper: “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?” Clapper responded: “No, sir.” When Wyden followed up by asking, “It does not?” Clapper said: “Not wittingly. There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect—but not wittingly.” Clapper did not specify at the time that he was referring to e-mail."
James Clapper?s Tip for Avoiding Lies: Don?t Do Talking Points | emptywheel



Need I add Eric Holder, Susan Rice, and Hillary Clinton???


Not an honest bone in the bunch.


This is a thug adminisitration, headed by a thug.

You know PC, this thread will not go far when you confuse us with facts

-Geaux

I got the tongue-in-cheek, Geaux....

....but isn't the real pathos that marginally intelligent folks like Erroneous Joe, post just above you, have no prob with the Chicago thug administration using government agencies against political enemies.


Obama uses the IRS....no reaction....

...but they hated when Nixon.....who did not use the IRS against enemies.....even spoke of doing so.



That response from EJ is pretty much the end of America.....and it's from the inside.

 

[tinydancer]

Helllooo... the Administration has no real say in who the IRS Director is. That guy was appointed by Boooosh.

I just can't get upset that a bunch of Teabaggers didn't get a tax deduction. Neither are most people.

Give up on trying to make Schulman a Republican. He donated to Democrats and his wife is a loony left winger. and Joe we know you don't care about Republicans or conservatives. You're a progressive. All you ever do is trash out conservatives and republicans.

So why would you care if the IRS targeted conservative groups? I'd be shocked if you did.

Shulman’s wife Susan L. Anderson is the senior program advisor for the Washington-based nonprofit organization Public Campaign, which claims that it “is laying the foundation for reform by working with a broad range of organizations, including local community groups, around the country that are fighting for change and national organizations whose members are not fairly represented under the current campaign finance system.”

…

Public Campaign receives “major funding” from the pro-Obamacare alliance Health Care for America NOW!, which is comprised of the labor unions AFL-CIO, AFSCME, SEIU, and the progressive activist organization Move On, among others.

Shock: Former IRS chief Doug Shulman?s wife works with liberal group ?fighting for change? | Twitchy

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Helllooo... the Administration has no real say in who the IRS Director is. That guy was appointed by Boooosh.

I just can't get upset that a bunch of Teabaggers didn't get a tax deduction. Neither are most people.

^ Stupid Liberal quote of the Day (so far... @9:42est)

 

[The Rabbi]

Remember: The IRS is an independent agency.
And then Obama fired the head of that independent agency, proving he really has no power over who heads it. Right, Joe? Joe must have to stand at his computer all day he's so butt hurt from being shown to be consistently wrong.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Helllooo... the Administration has no real say in who the IRS Director is. That guy was appointed by Boooosh.

I just can't get upset that a bunch of Teabaggers didn't get a tax deduction. Neither are most people.

Give up on trying to make Schulman a Republican. He donated to Democrats and his wife is a loony left winger. and Joe we know you don't care about Republicans or conservatives. You're a progressive. All you ever do is trash out conservatives and republicans.

So why would you care if the IRS targeted conservative groups? I'd be shocked if you did.

Shulman’s wife Susan L. Anderson is the senior program advisor for the Washington-based nonprofit organization Public Campaign, which claims that it “is laying the foundation for reform by working with a broad range of organizations, including local community groups, around the country that are fighting for change and national organizations whose members are not fairly represented under the current campaign finance system.”

…

Public Campaign receives “major funding” from the pro-Obamacare alliance Health Care for America NOW!, which is comprised of the labor unions AFL-CIO, AFSCME, SEIU, and the progressive activist organization Move On, among others.

Shock: Former IRS chief Doug Shulman?s wife works with liberal group ?fighting for change? | Twitchy

His wife didn't work for the IRS you burnt-out.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Has new evidence emerged since the last time PC spammed the board with this thread?

No. The evidence against the President remains at zero.

Kind of like the evidence he was born in Kenya.

 

[Stephanie]

Helllooo... the Administration has no real say in who the IRS Director is. That guy was appointed by Boooosh.

I just can't get upset that a bunch of Teabaggers didn't get a tax deduction. Neither are most people.

^ Stupid Liberal quote of the Day (so far... @9:42est)

he's a bitter old man...calling people teabaggers..what's that tell you

 

[Stephanie]

Has new evidence emerged since the last time PC spammed the board with this thread?

No. The evidence against the President remains at zero.

Kind of like the evidence he was born in Kenya.

that's really all most of you care about, isn't it..

forget the fact this agency is abusing IT'S POWER over the people

no wonder this government feels it can do whatever the hell wants...

 

[BlindBoo]

Didn't you get the memo?

http://democrats.oversight.house.go...atus_Update_Memo_IRS_Investigation_060913.pdf

 

[NYcarbineer]

Has new evidence emerged since the last time PC spammed the board with this thread?

No. The evidence against the President remains at zero.

Kind of like the evidence he was born in Kenya.

that's really all most of you care about, isn't it..

forget the fact this agency is abusing IT'S POWER over the people

no wonder this government feels it can do whatever the hell wants...

Since I said a month ago they should fire the people who were responsible, you're about 100% wrong.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ever notice how the more wrong the inmates are on an issue, the more threads they start about it?

Is that in case nobody has noticed how wrong you are? Or what?

 

[Stephanie]

Has new evidence emerged since the last time PC spammed the board with this thread?

No. The evidence against the President remains at zero.

Kind of like the evidence he was born in Kenya.

that's really all most of you care about, isn't it..

forget the fact this agency is abusing IT'S POWER over the people

no wonder this government feels it can do whatever the hell wants...

Since I said a month ago they should fire the people who were responsible, you're about 100% wrong.

yeah sure, like throwing a few of these people out will stop this abuse..

Does Obama care AT ALL about anything..? He's made one petty statement, he's outraged...on the Irs and then off on his travels FUNDRAISING..

what a frikking leader of this country

 

[The Rabbi]

Didn't you get the memo?

http://democrats.oversight.house.go...atus_Update_Memo_IRS_Investigation_060913.pdf

Sure. So did the brain dead leftists on here that are crowing how it shows Issa is playing politics. IT shows it by selectively presenting alleged testimony from a self described conservative republican who never made a campaign contribution that he has no basis for believing the White House was involved. Of course he has no basis for disbelieving it either, which is what makes it a masterpice of agitprop.