Is Australia the Greatest Nation on Earth Concerning Freedom and Human Happiness?

There is nowhere on Earth more beautiful than the Lake District in England. We have the full diversity of the four seasons
and we are at arm's length of historical and cultural Europe. We also have the finest Football league and we produce the best music, beer, and whisky... well a few miles up the road in Scotland.

I've visited some of the so-called most beautiful places on Earth and couldn't wait to get home.
I like a lot about England. The beer however.....:9::puke3:
 
Australian admits they are stupid and cheap




Well this is true, Australians do not like tipping.

It is because our hospitality workers are paid a fare minimum wage and do not have to rely on begging to make a living.
Yes because Australians in the hospitality industry would starve to death if they had to depend on tips due to their crappy attitude and huge egos , where with tips in the hospitality industry to make really good money ,in America. A bar tender I dated at the ski resort in the 80s regularly made 1500 a week with tips , but of course unlike Australians she was plesent worked hard and had a food attitude . She was making great money on tips because she was worth it due to her customer service and hospitality skills .
Wher Australians expect to be paid by their ego and self value nor what they are really worth , it goes back to your swollen self inflated egos .
 
Australian admits they are stupid and cheap




Well this is true, Australians do not like tipping.

It is because our hospitality workers are paid a fare minimum wage and do not have to rely on begging to make a living.
Yes because Australians in the hospitality industry would starve to death if they had to depend on tips due to their crappy attitude and huge egos , where with tips in the hospitality industry to make really good money ,in America. A bar tender I dated at the ski resort in the 80s regularly made 1500 a week with tips , but of course unlike Australians she was plesent worked hard and had a food attitude . She was making great money on tips because she was worth it due to her customer service and hospitality skills .
Wher Australians expect to be paid by their ego and self value nor what they are really worth , it goes back to your swollen self inflated egos .


Fair wage for a fair days work.

That concept was born in Australia.

Also the eight hour working day.

But you Yanks have fun with the ever growing share cropping Uber economy.

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Australian admits they are stupid and cheap




Well this is true, Australians do not like tipping.

It is because our hospitality workers are paid a fare minimum wage and do not have to rely on begging to make a living.
Yes because Australians in the hospitality industry would starve to death if they had to depend on tips due to their crappy attitude and huge egos , where with tips in the hospitality industry to make really good money ,in America. A bar tender I dated at the ski resort in the 80s regularly made 1500 a week with tips , but of course unlike Australians she was plesent worked hard and had a food attitude . She was making great money on tips because she was worth it due to her customer service and hospitality skills .
Wher Australians expect to be paid by their ego and self value nor what they are really worth , it goes back to your swollen self inflated egos .


Fair wage for a fair days work.

That concept was born in Australia.

Also the eight hour working day.

But you Yanks have fun with the ever growing share cropping Uber economy.

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O yea sure ir was born in Australia along with how to be rude a huge ego and be a dumb ass.
 
sass.simple fact is Australians in the hospitality industry expect to be paid high wages even if they are butt holes .while Americans perfer to actually earn their money .
You see Australians are vane and think their poop don't stink and are owed a living due to you being socialist scum its your right.in America 8f your a good server or bartender you get paid what your worth not what you think your worth.
But considering how cheap Australians are its probably better for your lot
 
sass.simple fact is Australians in the hospitality industry expect to be paid high wages even if they are butt holes .while Americans perfer to actually earn their money .
You see Australians are vane and think their poop don't stink and are owed a living due to you being socialist scum its your right.in America 8f your a good server or bartender you get paid what your worth not what you think your worth.
But considering how cheap Australians are its probably better for your lot


We are just paid civilised wages unlike the share cropping, beg for a living American system of hospitality where the help have to tap dance and beg for something to eat that night.
 
but some people still have morals and ethics and respect freedom and perfer to be responsible for our self's like real men and women do.who pays for your subsidization ?
But you don't actually pay for you own health care. The other people in your insurance pool pay for your care, as you do theirs. Nor will you be paying directly for the development of a COVID vaccine, for example. Rugged independence is just pablum you've been fed since birth.

Like I said the government isn't making any vaccines.

It's a race and the first company to get one on the market will cash in.

Some vaccine research is being done by tax funded universities.

Indeed Oxford looked like they had the first viable vaccine but they have hit some roadblocks.

And those universities cannot compete with big pharma.

When a vaccine is out it will not come from some public university.

Many vaccines have been developed by universities and indeed with COVID vaccine many drug companies are working with universities to develop the vaccine as they will manufacture it.


don't fool yourself the money is coming from big pharma.

and it will be big pharma that makes and distributes any vaccine for Covid


Funding is coming from everywhere, most of the research funding is from universities even with government grants, but Big phrama and small pharma too (all companies globally are racing on this one) are cooperating.

One thing I do know is every Aussie will get their vaccine much cheaper than Americans if all other pharmaceutical prices be our guide.

my vaccine won't cost me a dime because I have very good health insurance. Way better than the fucking government can provide


LOL.

That was the laugh of the day.

Your premiums are paying for it.

At much higher cost than universal insurance.

That is if your policy even covers it as all universal insurance and the PBS in Australia does.

My insurance premiums aren't that high and I get better coverage than the fucking government can provide.

And yes my insurance covers vaccinations with no copay.

Why you people think the fucking government can solve all your problems is beyond me. I for one wouldn't trust any corrupt asshole of a politician as far as a 5 year old could throw them

and your coverage isn't free even if you're dumb enough to think it is. You pay for it via higher taxes.


The average American's insurance premiums are $474 per month according to the AMA.

The average Australian's is 88$ per month on the taxed levy.

We get better results in health care than the US in every category except breast and prostrate cancer treatments, and there we are close.

Our wait times for GPs are shorter, critical surgery the same and in most elective surgery not that far behind. (Except hip replacements)|

Our PBS buys and subsidises drug prices, on almost every drug we pay two thirds lower than a US consumer.

Drugs are lower here because the government is the main insurer so has far more bargaining power with drug producers and can drive down the price where as the drug companies loot American private insurance companies and the consumer because in a fragmented insurance system they simply do not have the same bargaining power.

I don't pay that.

And I have never waited for a doctor appointment. I needed back surgery and was operated on in less than 3 weeks. I had another injury that most doctors would not even fix surgically but I had that one done in 6 weeks. I could do that because the fucking government didn't tell me what surgery i could or could not have.

Once again you people who don't live here and have no fucking clue as to what life is like in the US are trying to tell Americans what their country is like.
 
sass.simple fact is Australians in the hospitality industry expect to be paid high wages even if they are butt holes .while Americans perfer to actually earn their money .
You see Australians are vane and think their poop don't stink and are owed a living due to you being socialist scum its your right.in America 8f your a good server or bartender you get paid what your worth not what you think your worth.
But considering how cheap Australians are its probably better for your lot


We are just paid civilised wages unlike the share cropping, beg for a living American system of hospitality where the help have to tap dance and beg for something to eat that night.
lol your really ignorant of America , but your Australian so ignorant comes naturally.
Servers and bar tenders in America don't beg for money or tap dance , or beg for food. Your delusional and again that great Australian swollen head and ego is showing.
They just need to provide a good service and be nice , both of which are beyond a Australians capability .
You see in America your earn your money while in Australia you think your owed a living . Your servers have no incentive to do a good job , be nice, check back on you to see if you need anything .

That is how you earn tips by doing a good job, where in Australia efven if your lazy rude slow and ignorant its accepted , especially from what I have seen of your lot in person .
It all goes back to your swollen fat heads and egos and small penis size .

The land down under, where swollen egos and small penis size the land.

The land down under ,where its ok to be rude, ignorant ,slow and lazy because your socialist and don't even know it.

The land down under where men brag about there penis size and the women wish it was true.
 
but some people still have morals and ethics and respect freedom and perfer to be responsible for our self's like real men and women do.who pays for your subsidization ?
But you don't actually pay for you own health care. The other people in your insurance pool pay for your care, as you do theirs. Nor will you be paying directly for the development of a COVID vaccine, for example. Rugged independence is just pablum you've been fed since birth.

Like I said the government isn't making any vaccines.

It's a race and the first company to get one on the market will cash in.

Some vaccine research is being done by tax funded universities.

Indeed Oxford looked like they had the first viable vaccine but they have hit some roadblocks.

And those universities cannot compete with big pharma.

When a vaccine is out it will not come from some public university.

Many vaccines have been developed by universities and indeed with COVID vaccine many drug companies are working with universities to develop the vaccine as they will manufacture it.


don't fool yourself the money is coming from big pharma.

and it will be big pharma that makes and distributes any vaccine for Covid


Funding is coming from everywhere, most of the research funding is from universities even with government grants, but Big phrama and small pharma too (all companies globally are racing on this one) are cooperating.

One thing I do know is every Aussie will get their vaccine much cheaper than Americans if all other pharmaceutical prices be our guide.

my vaccine won't cost me a dime because I have very good health insurance. Way better than the fucking government can provide


LOL.

That was the laugh of the day.

Your premiums are paying for it.

At much higher cost than universal insurance.

That is if your policy even covers it as all universal insurance and the PBS in Australia does.

My insurance premiums aren't that high and I get better coverage than the fucking government can provide.

And yes my insurance covers vaccinations with no copay.

Why you people think the fucking government can solve all your problems is beyond me. I for one wouldn't trust any corrupt asshole of a politician as far as a 5 year old could throw them

and your coverage isn't free even if you're dumb enough to think it is. You pay for it via higher taxes.


The average American's insurance premiums are $474 per month according to the AMA.

The average Australian's is 88$ per month on the taxed levy.

We get better results in health care than the US in every category except breast and prostrate cancer treatments, and there we are close.

Our wait times for GPs are shorter, critical surgery the same and in most elective surgery not that far behind. (Except hip replacements)|

Our PBS buys and subsidises drug prices, on almost every drug we pay two thirds lower than a US consumer.

Drugs are lower here because the government is the main insurer so has far more bargaining power with drug producers and can drive down the price where as the drug companies loot American private insurance companies and the consumer because in a fragmented insurance system they simply do not have the same bargaining power.

I don't pay that.

And I have never waited for a doctor appointment. I needed back surgery and was operated on in less than 3 weeks. I had another injury that most doctors would not even fix surgically but I had that one done in 6 weeks. I could do that because the fucking government didn't tell me what surgery i could or could not have.

Once again you people who don't live here and have no fucking clue as to what life is like in the US are trying to tell Americans what their country is like.

You certainty don't pay 88 per month.

I have never waited for a GP appointment either, my mother in law had serious stomach surgery and was operated on in a week.

But our personal details are not relevant, that is known a anecdotal evidence.

The macro evidence is clear if you research it, Australians pay far less and get better macro outcomes.

Now Americans like to chant the slogans they have been force fed since childhood and rarely learn from the rest of the world, so I imagine this discussion is mute.

I will just leave it at that and enjoy my superior health care at far less cost than you can ever dream of.
 
Australia thinks it has everything better due to their ignorance and super swollen egos. they are little more then a piss ant nation of English rejects who beat their chest like great apes in heat thinking about themselves .
 
Australia thinks it has everything better due to their ignorance and super swollen egos. they are little more then a piss ant nation of English rejects who beat their chest like great apes in heat thinking about themselves .


I actually do not think most Australians think we are better than Americans, as I have said most Aussies like America and Americans, though I am pretty sure every Australian thinks they are better than you Bob.
 
but some people still have morals and ethics and respect freedom and perfer to be responsible for our self's like real men and women do.who pays for your subsidization ?
But you don't actually pay for you own health care. The other people in your insurance pool pay for your care, as you do theirs. Nor will you be paying directly for the development of a COVID vaccine, for example. Rugged independence is just pablum you've been fed since birth.

Like I said the government isn't making any vaccines.

It's a race and the first company to get one on the market will cash in.

Some vaccine research is being done by tax funded universities.

Indeed Oxford looked like they had the first viable vaccine but they have hit some roadblocks.

And those universities cannot compete with big pharma.

When a vaccine is out it will not come from some public university.

Many vaccines have been developed by universities and indeed with COVID vaccine many drug companies are working with universities to develop the vaccine as they will manufacture it.


don't fool yourself the money is coming from big pharma.

and it will be big pharma that makes and distributes any vaccine for Covid


Funding is coming from everywhere, most of the research funding is from universities even with government grants, but Big phrama and small pharma too (all companies globally are racing on this one) are cooperating.

One thing I do know is every Aussie will get their vaccine much cheaper than Americans if all other pharmaceutical prices be our guide.

my vaccine won't cost me a dime because I have very good health insurance. Way better than the fucking government can provide


LOL.

That was the laugh of the day.

Your premiums are paying for it.

At much higher cost than universal insurance.

That is if your policy even covers it as all universal insurance and the PBS in Australia does.

My insurance premiums aren't that high and I get better coverage than the fucking government can provide.

And yes my insurance covers vaccinations with no copay.

Why you people think the fucking government can solve all your problems is beyond me. I for one wouldn't trust any corrupt asshole of a politician as far as a 5 year old could throw them

and your coverage isn't free even if you're dumb enough to think it is. You pay for it via higher taxes.


The average American's insurance premiums are $474 per month according to the AMA.

The average Australian's is 88$ per month on the taxed levy.

We get better results in health care than the US in every category except breast and prostrate cancer treatments, and there we are close.

Our wait times for GPs are shorter, critical surgery the same and in most elective surgery not that far behind. (Except hip replacements)|

Our PBS buys and subsidises drug prices, on almost every drug we pay two thirds lower than a US consumer.

Drugs are lower here because the government is the main insurer so has far more bargaining power with drug producers and can drive down the price where as the drug companies loot American private insurance companies and the consumer because in a fragmented insurance system they simply do not have the same bargaining power.

I don't pay that.

And I have never waited for a doctor appointment. I needed back surgery and was operated on in less than 3 weeks. I had another injury that most doctors would not even fix surgically but I had that one done in 6 weeks. I could do that because the fucking government didn't tell me what surgery i could or could not have.

Once again you people who don't live here and have no fucking clue as to what life is like in the US are trying to tell Americans what their country is like.

You certainty don't pay 88 per month.

I have never waited for a GP appointment either, my mother in law had serious stomach surgery and was operated on in a week.

But our personal details are not relevant, that is known a anecdotal evidence.

The macro evidence is clear if you research it, Australians pay far less and get better macro outcomes.

Now Americans like to chant the slogans they have been force fed since childhood and rarely learn from the rest of the world, so I imagine this discussion is mute.

I will just leave it at that and enjoy my superior health care at far less cost than you can ever dream of.

And neither do you when you add up all the other taxes that are used to pay for your government health care.

There is no way that your government can provide every single person cradle to grave health care for 88 dollars a month.

And I think you mean "moot" not "mute"

One thing you foreigners have to realize is that Americans don't give a flying fuck what you think about Americans or America.

I always wondered why foreigners spend so much time talking about the US when I can guarantee you that we spend no time worrying about what's going on in your country.
 
but some people still have morals and ethics and respect freedom and perfer to be responsible for our self's like real men and women do.who pays for your subsidization ?
But you don't actually pay for you own health care. The other people in your insurance pool pay for your care, as you do theirs. Nor will you be paying directly for the development of a COVID vaccine, for example. Rugged independence is just pablum you've been fed since birth.

Like I said the government isn't making any vaccines.

It's a race and the first company to get one on the market will cash in.

Some vaccine research is being done by tax funded universities.

Indeed Oxford looked like they had the first viable vaccine but they have hit some roadblocks.

And those universities cannot compete with big pharma.

When a vaccine is out it will not come from some public university.

Many vaccines have been developed by universities and indeed with COVID vaccine many drug companies are working with universities to develop the vaccine as they will manufacture it.


don't fool yourself the money is coming from big pharma.

and it will be big pharma that makes and distributes any vaccine for Covid


Funding is coming from everywhere, most of the research funding is from universities even with government grants, but Big phrama and small pharma too (all companies globally are racing on this one) are cooperating.

One thing I do know is every Aussie will get their vaccine much cheaper than Americans if all other pharmaceutical prices be our guide.

my vaccine won't cost me a dime because I have very good health insurance. Way better than the fucking government can provide


LOL.

That was the laugh of the day.

Your premiums are paying for it.

At much higher cost than universal insurance.

That is if your policy even covers it as all universal insurance and the PBS in Australia does.

My insurance premiums aren't that high and I get better coverage than the fucking government can provide.

And yes my insurance covers vaccinations with no copay.

Why you people think the fucking government can solve all your problems is beyond me. I for one wouldn't trust any corrupt asshole of a politician as far as a 5 year old could throw them

and your coverage isn't free even if you're dumb enough to think it is. You pay for it via higher taxes.


The average American's insurance premiums are $474 per month according to the AMA.

The average Australian's is 88$ per month on the taxed levy.

We get better results in health care than the US in every category except breast and prostrate cancer treatments, and there we are close.

Our wait times for GPs are shorter, critical surgery the same and in most elective surgery not that far behind. (Except hip replacements)|

Our PBS buys and subsidises drug prices, on almost every drug we pay two thirds lower than a US consumer.

Drugs are lower here because the government is the main insurer so has far more bargaining power with drug producers and can drive down the price where as the drug companies loot American private insurance companies and the consumer because in a fragmented insurance system they simply do not have the same bargaining power.

I don't pay that.

And I have never waited for a doctor appointment. I needed back surgery and was operated on in less than 3 weeks. I had another injury that most doctors would not even fix surgically but I had that one done in 6 weeks. I could do that because the fucking government didn't tell me what surgery i could or could not have.

Once again you people who don't live here and have no fucking clue as to what life is like in the US are trying to tell Americans what their country is like.

You certainty don't pay 88 per month.

I have never waited for a GP appointment either, my mother in law had serious stomach surgery and was operated on in a week.

But our personal details are not relevant, that is known a anecdotal evidence.

The macro evidence is clear if you research it, Australians pay far less and get better macro outcomes.

Now Americans like to chant the slogans they have been force fed since childhood and rarely learn from the rest of the world, so I imagine this discussion is mute.

I will just leave it at that and enjoy my superior health care at far less cost than you can ever dream of.

And neither do you when you add up all the other taxes that are used to pay for your government health care.

There is no way that your government can provide every single person cradle to grave health care for 88 dollars a month.

And I think you mean "moot" not "mute"

One thing you foreigners have to realize is that Americans don't give a flying fuck what you think about Americans or America.

I always wondered why foreigners spend so much time talking about the US when I can guarantee you that we spend no time worrying about what's going on in your country.
thats because you dont know whats going on anyplace even in your own nation .
 
but some people still have morals and ethics and respect freedom and perfer to be responsible for our self's like real men and women do.who pays for your subsidization ?
But you don't actually pay for you own health care. The other people in your insurance pool pay for your care, as you do theirs. Nor will you be paying directly for the development of a COVID vaccine, for example. Rugged independence is just pablum you've been fed since birth.

Like I said the government isn't making any vaccines.

It's a race and the first company to get one on the market will cash in.

Some vaccine research is being done by tax funded universities.

Indeed Oxford looked like they had the first viable vaccine but they have hit some roadblocks.

And those universities cannot compete with big pharma.

When a vaccine is out it will not come from some public university.

Many vaccines have been developed by universities and indeed with COVID vaccine many drug companies are working with universities to develop the vaccine as they will manufacture it.


don't fool yourself the money is coming from big pharma.

and it will be big pharma that makes and distributes any vaccine for Covid


Funding is coming from everywhere, most of the research funding is from universities even with government grants, but Big phrama and small pharma too (all companies globally are racing on this one) are cooperating.

One thing I do know is every Aussie will get their vaccine much cheaper than Americans if all other pharmaceutical prices be our guide.

my vaccine won't cost me a dime because I have very good health insurance. Way better than the fucking government can provide


LOL.

That was the laugh of the day.

Your premiums are paying for it.

At much higher cost than universal insurance.

That is if your policy even covers it as all universal insurance and the PBS in Australia does.

My insurance premiums aren't that high and I get better coverage than the fucking government can provide.

And yes my insurance covers vaccinations with no copay.

Why you people think the fucking government can solve all your problems is beyond me. I for one wouldn't trust any corrupt asshole of a politician as far as a 5 year old could throw them

and your coverage isn't free even if you're dumb enough to think it is. You pay for it via higher taxes.


The average American's insurance premiums are $474 per month according to the AMA.

The average Australian's is 88$ per month on the taxed levy.

We get better results in health care than the US in every category except breast and prostrate cancer treatments, and there we are close.

Our wait times for GPs are shorter, critical surgery the same and in most elective surgery not that far behind. (Except hip replacements)|

Our PBS buys and subsidises drug prices, on almost every drug we pay two thirds lower than a US consumer.

Drugs are lower here because the government is the main insurer so has far more bargaining power with drug producers and can drive down the price where as the drug companies loot American private insurance companies and the consumer because in a fragmented insurance system they simply do not have the same bargaining power.

I don't pay that.

And I have never waited for a doctor appointment. I needed back surgery and was operated on in less than 3 weeks. I had another injury that most doctors would not even fix surgically but I had that one done in 6 weeks. I could do that because the fucking government didn't tell me what surgery i could or could not have.

Once again you people who don't live here and have no fucking clue as to what life is like in the US are trying to tell Americans what their country is like.

You certainty don't pay 88 per month.

I have never waited for a GP appointment either, my mother in law had serious stomach surgery and was operated on in a week.

But our personal details are not relevant, that is known a anecdotal evidence.

The macro evidence is clear if you research it, Australians pay far less and get better macro outcomes.

Now Americans like to chant the slogans they have been force fed since childhood and rarely learn from the rest of the world, so I imagine this discussion is mute.

I will just leave it at that and enjoy my superior health care at far less cost than you can ever dream of.

And neither do you when you add up all the other taxes that are used to pay for your government health care.

There is no way that your government can provide every single person cradle to grave health care for 88 dollars a month.

And I think you mean "moot" not "mute"

One thing you foreigners have to realize is that Americans don't give a flying fuck what you think about Americans or America.

I always wondered why foreigners spend so much time talking about the US when I can guarantee you that we spend no time worrying about what's going on in your country.
thats because you dont know whats going on anyplace even in your own nation .

I know what's going on here and I don't need some foreigner to tell me what it is.

And when was the last time Australia did anything worth noticing?
 
Australia is just another socialist mistake that is dependent on a communist nation for its economy , the same nation that calls it gum on the bottom of its shoe and is slowly buying up, land business and homes there


They really need to revamp US economics education, no Yank seems to know what socialism actually is.

By the way more American companies own land in Australia than Chinese.
yes we know what socialism is and our nation has some socialist policys and we know it.
That's the difference we know it but your to stupid 8n Australia to see how far gone your piss ant nation is .and what its becoming thank to china .
And your to dumb to fight for your freedom which is far more limited then ot is here. China is slipping you guys the weiner and your loving it. Slowly influencing your piss ant nation and taking more and more control while you suck up to them and become dependent on them. Ignoring their actions 8n the south pacific until its to late . like a bunch of slack jaw girly men who are drunk all the time and self indulged with themselves
 
Yes 88 is the cost of my medical insurance.

Now if you are talking about other medical costs like building hospitals or providing care for people with no insurance (which cannot occur in Australia as everyone is insured) or buying medical equipment, your costs are higher too and not covered by insurance. Indeed much of it is covered by your tax dollars.

The US federal government alone spent $1.2 trillion in fiscal year 2019.

That does not count what the states spent in tax money.

That is your tax money.

.
 
Australia is just another socialist mistake that is dependent on a communist nation for its economy , the same nation that calls it gum on the bottom of its shoe and is slowly buying up, land business and homes there


They really need to revamp US economics education, no Yank seems to know what socialism actually is.

By the way more American companies own land in Australia than Chinese.
yes we know what socialism is and our nation has some socialist policys and we know it.
That's the difference we know it but your to stupid 8n Australia to see how far gone your piss ant nation is .and what its becoming thank to china .
And your to dumb to fight for your freedom which is far more limited then ot is here. China is slipping you guys the weiner and your loving it. Slowly influencing your piss ant nation and taking more and more control while you suck up to them and become dependent on them. Ignoring their actions 8n the south pacific until its to late . like a bunch of slack jaw girly men who are drunk all the time and self indulged with themselves


No Bob you do not seem to know what socialism is.

It is the state owning the means of production.

It is not the state providing social services like health insurance in Australia or Social Security benefits in America.
 

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