Zone1 Is God a sadist?

[occupied]

It could be argued that with us, it is even more tooth and claw.

Beauty didn't exist until a sentient mind came along.

 

[Woodznutz]

Not to mention abortion. Oops. Just did.

And other things not appropriate for small children.

 

[rightwinger]

Again, a translation problem.

How does translation change the cruel God in those parables?

How do you translate torturing Job, killing the first born of Egypt or flooding the world to make it less cruel?

 

[Woodznutz]

As opposed to a world where a vengeful God kills them all?

God was regretful, not vengeful.

"And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."

 

[Hollie]

God was regretful, not vengeful.

"And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."

No, actually. Per the fable, an angry, vindictive (vengeful) God wanted to wipe'em all out.

11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence. 12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. 13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.

 

[Woodznutz]

No, actually. Per the fable, an angry, vindictive (vengeful) God wanted to wipe'em all out.

11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence. 12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. 13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.

God made a simple statement. I don't detect anger or vengeance.

 

[Hollie]

God made a simple statement. I don't detect anger or vengeance.

A simple statement that anticipates total death and destruction.

Simple statement: ''I'm going to the post office''

Not so much: ''kill'em all''.

 

[rightwinger]

God was regretful, not vengeful.

"And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."

God: I regret that I have to kill all these innocent babies, puppies and kittens

 

[Woodznutz]

A simple statement that anticipates total death and destruction.

Simple statement: ''I'm going to the post office''

Not so much: ''kill'em all''.

God often does things on a grand scale.

 

[Hollie]

God: I regret that I have to kill all these innocent babies, puppies and kittens

''God commanded me''.

 

[Woodznutz]

God: I regret that I have to kill all these innocent babies, puppies and kittens

It was a case of 'all, or nothing at all'. He chose 'all'.

 

[Hollie]

God often does things on a grand scale.

Like the cancer cell?

 

[Woodznutz]

God: I regret that I have to kill all these innocent babies, puppies and kittens

Deformed babies and diseased pets.

PETA kills tens of thousands of perfectly healthy animals, and it doesn't raise an eyebrow. Millions of perfectly healthy human fetuses have been killed and the bloodbath is celebrated. Give us a break.

 

[Hollie]

Deformed babies and diseased pets.

Pretty poor design skills on the part of the gods.

 

[Woodznutz]

Pretty poor design skills on the part of the gods.

You can't ignore the maintenance manual and expect the thing to work properly.

 

[Woodznutz]

Like the cancer cell?

?

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

IF there is a "god" out there, it is nothing but a juvenile, narcissistic, ego-maniacal, lying, two-faced, hypocritical sack of doggie doo. Religions are nothing but hypocrisy, lies, hate, and power mad narcissists using religion to fleece the sheeples for their own personal uses.

 

[Hollie]

You can't ignore the instruction manual and expect the thing to work properly.

But, according to the fables, the gods gave man free will. You can't make an instruction manual that doesn't apply to the things you're instructing.

 

[Hollie]

?

The ''grand scale'', thing. Deformed babies, diseased pets, disease of all kinds could have been prevented by the gods with a better design. Are the gods responsible for only a select component of existence?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

As opposed to a world where a vengeful God kills them all?

Like the Old Testament God did?