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Is JD Vance a Saul who became a Paul?

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Probably most of you aren't aware of this history much less how it relates to JD VANCE!
Paul was known as Saul and was "a Pharisee of Pharisees", who "intensely persecuted" the followers of Jesus.
JD Vance hated Trump.
Some earlier statements I'm 100% sure you've heard from the biased MSM trying to tear Vance and Trump down!
To me and a growing number of supporters, this is a great example of logic overcoming emotional decisions.

JD Vance, Trump’s VP pick, once called him a ‘moral disaster,’ and possibly ‘America’s Hitler’​


J.D. Vance’s journey from a ‘Never Trump’ guy to Trump’s VP pick​

“I can’t stomach Trump,” Vance told NPR that August. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him,” Vance told Charlie Rose in October 2016, weeks before Trump was elected president.

So what caused the Saul-to-Paul-like conversion?
The author of the best-selling “Hillbilly Elegy” and movie— which depicted Vance’s childhood in a steel mill community in Ohio in a family beset by drug addiction and poverty — became compulsory reading for many seeking to understand Trump’s appeal to the White working-class voters who had helped install him in the Oval Office.

Now Vance pretty well sums up why he changed along with a 100% on target for the cause of Trump's popularity.
JD Vance: “The problem is if you take that attitude as sort of gloating … then you’re playing into the very thing that gave rise to Trump in the first place, which is a feeling that the elites think that they are smarter than you and just think you’re a bunch of idiots,” Vance said then.

Just to summarize Vance's biography...
1. Born in a poverty where his Dad left the family, his Mom was a drug addict and Vance was raised by his grandmother.
2. Joined Marines went on to serve our nation in the Iraq War,
3. Graduated from The Ohio State University and Yale Law School.
4. He wrote a bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was turned into a Netflix movie.
5. He also started a business dedicated to growing jobs and opportunity in the American heartland.

So what changed Vance from a "Saul-like" to a "Paul-like" ?
Watch this clip and you'll see this quote:

VanceTrumpconversion.png


Substance over Style!
The point being I just like Vance can't stand a lot of Trump's STYLE characteristics.. i.e. braggart. Narcissistic. etc... i.e.
STYLE!!! It's Trump's SUBSTANCE that I like him and support him!
Now many of you TDS people informed by an extremely BIASED MSM that donated 96% to Hillary in 2016 and 90% to Biden in 2020, while they accentuated the COVID-19 especially stupid comments like "Trump says drink Bleach"!!!
All to defeat Trump in 2020 with still unresolved junk mail voting due to what? COVID again a tool used against Trump.
All of that is in the past. Let's move on to the substance of Trump and now Vance...the next generation!
The benefits of this Trump/Vance ticket are "SUBSTANTIAL"... NOT "STYLISTIC"! We need people that we may not like "style-wise" but people like the soldiers use to say..
."You talk the talk,... do you walk the walk"?
 
Probably most of you aren't aware of this history much less how it relates to JD VANCE!
Paul was known as Saul and was "a Pharisee of Pharisees", who "intensely persecuted" the followers of Jesus.
JD Vance hated Trump.
Some earlier statements I'm 100% sure you've heard from the biased MSM trying to tear Vance and Trump down!
To me and a growing number of supporters, this is a great example of logic overcoming emotional decisions.

JD Vance, Trump’s VP pick, once called him a ‘moral disaster,’ and possibly ‘America’s Hitler’​


J.D. Vance’s journey from a ‘Never Trump’ guy to Trump’s VP pick​

“I can’t stomach Trump,” Vance told NPR that August. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him,” Vance told Charlie Rose in October 2016, weeks before Trump was elected president.

So what caused the Saul-to-Paul-like conversion?
The author of the best-selling “Hillbilly Elegy” and movie— which depicted Vance’s childhood in a steel mill community in Ohio in a family beset by drug addiction and poverty — became compulsory reading for many seeking to understand Trump’s appeal to the White working-class voters who had helped install him in the Oval Office.

Now Vance pretty well sums up why he changed along with a 100% on target for the cause of Trump's popularity.
JD Vance: “The problem is if you take that attitude as sort of gloating … then you’re playing into the very thing that gave rise to Trump in the first place, which is a feeling that the elites think that they are smarter than you and just think you’re a bunch of idiots,” Vance said then.

Just to summarize Vance's biography...
1. Born in a poverty where his Dad left the family, his Mom was a drug addict and Vance was raised by his grandmother.
2. Joined Marines went on to serve our nation in the Iraq War,
3. Graduated from The Ohio State University and Yale Law School.
4. He wrote a bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was turned into a Netflix movie.
5. He also started a business dedicated to growing jobs and opportunity in the American heartland.

So what changed Vance from a "Saul-like" to a "Paul-like" ?
Watch this clip and you'll see this quote:

View attachment 978827

Substance over Style!
The point being I just like Vance can't stand a lot of Trump's STYLE characteristics.. i.e. braggart. Narcissistic. etc... i.e.
STYLE!!! It's Trump's SUBSTANCE that I like him and support him!
Now many of you TDS people informed by an extremely BIASED MSM that donated 96% to Hillary in 2016 and 90% to Biden in 2020, while they accentuated the COVID-19 especially stupid comments like "Trump says drink Bleach"!!!
All to defeat Trump in 2020 with still unresolved junk mail voting due to what? COVID again a tool used against Trump.
All of that is in the past. Let's move on to the substance of Trump and now Vance...the next generation!
The benefits of this Trump/Vance ticket are "SUBSTANTIAL"... NOT "STYLISTIC"! We need people that we may not like "style-wise" but people like the soldiers use to say..
."You talk the talk,... do you walk the walk"?

pray to your orange Hey-sous. lol
 
Some earlier statements I'm 100% sure you've heard from the biased MSM trying to tear Vance and Trump down!
If pointing out Vance's hypocrisy tears him down, so be it. But I do understand your discomfort with being reminded what JD and so many other Repubs said about trump before they realized just how pathetically gullible rank and file Repubs are.
 
If pointing out Vance's hypocrisy tears him down, so be it. But I do understand your discomfort with being reminded what JD and so many other Repubs said about trump before they realized just how pathetically gullible rank and file Repubs are.
I'm sure as hell not going to try to be serious on a biblehumper loser thread like this, which is possibly useful as humor and mocking the op, but Trump's second term may turn out to be less a political rally for white supremacists than a larger change in govt than Reagan achieved.
 
A lot of people changed their minds on Trump after they saw what a disaster and what a criminal Biden is....
 
Probably most of you aren't aware of this history much less how it relates to JD VANCE!
Paul was known as Saul and was "a Pharisee of Pharisees", who "intensely persecuted" the followers of Jesus.
JD Vance hated Trump.
Some earlier statements I'm 100% sure you've heard from the biased MSM trying to tear Vance and Trump down!
To me and a growing number of supporters, this is a great example of logic overcoming emotional decisions.

JD Vance, Trump’s VP pick, once called him a ‘moral disaster,’ and possibly ‘America’s Hitler’​


J.D. Vance’s journey from a ‘Never Trump’ guy to Trump’s VP pick​

“I can’t stomach Trump,” Vance told NPR that August. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him,” Vance told Charlie Rose in October 2016, weeks before Trump was elected president.

So what caused the Saul-to-Paul-like conversion?
The author of the best-selling “Hillbilly Elegy” and movie— which depicted Vance’s childhood in a steel mill community in Ohio in a family beset by drug addiction and poverty — became compulsory reading for many seeking to understand Trump’s appeal to the White working-class voters who had helped install him in the Oval Office.

Now Vance pretty well sums up why he changed along with a 100% on target for the cause of Trump's popularity.
JD Vance: “The problem is if you take that attitude as sort of gloating … then you’re playing into the very thing that gave rise to Trump in the first place, which is a feeling that the elites think that they are smarter than you and just think you’re a bunch of idiots,” Vance said then.

Just to summarize Vance's biography...
1. Born in a poverty where his Dad left the family, his Mom was a drug addict and Vance was raised by his grandmother.
2. Joined Marines went on to serve our nation in the Iraq War,
3. Graduated from The Ohio State University and Yale Law School.
4. He wrote a bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was turned into a Netflix movie.
5. He also started a business dedicated to growing jobs and opportunity in the American heartland.

So what changed Vance from a "Saul-like" to a "Paul-like" ?
Watch this clip and you'll see this quote:

View attachment 978827

Substance over Style!
The point being I just like Vance can't stand a lot of Trump's STYLE characteristics.. i.e. braggart. Narcissistic. etc... i.e.
STYLE!!! It's Trump's SUBSTANCE that I like him and support him!
Now many of you TDS people informed by an extremely BIASED MSM that donated 96% to Hillary in 2016 and 90% to Biden in 2020, while they accentuated the COVID-19 especially stupid comments like "Trump says drink Bleach"!!!
All to defeat Trump in 2020 with still unresolved junk mail voting due to what? COVID again a tool used against Trump.
All of that is in the past. Let's move on to the substance of Trump and now Vance...the next generation!
The benefits of this Trump/Vance ticket are "SUBSTANTIAL"... NOT "STYLISTIC"! We need people that we may not like "style-wise" but people like the soldiers use to say..
."You talk the talk,... do you walk the walk"?

The woman he married was from California and worked at a law firm and very progressive.

All bad signs, but we shall see.

There is no real reason to trust any politician...........ever.
 
I'm not sure Vance will ever be fully embraced, he dared contradict Dear Leader.

I'm not sure this is forgivable in the cult.
None of us understood that divide because we liked them both... its a new day... and this is our time so sit back and enjoy the ride....
 
I'm not sure Vance will ever be fully embraced, he dared contradict Dear Leader.

I'm not sure this is forgivable in the cult.
I dunno. Threads like this are just people trying to get god to blow them. But let's wait and see. That 2025 document is unreadable and typical heritage gobbly gook
 
Vance is the equivalent of Harris, who called out Biden for racist tendencies, busing, desegregation, crime bill, mass incarceration, etc., during the presidential primaries leading up to the 2020 election. Oh how her response changed leading up to Biden's VP pick.
 
Probably most of you aren't aware of this history much less how it relates to JD VANCE!
Paul was known as Saul and was "a Pharisee of Pharisees", who "intensely persecuted" the followers of Jesus.
JD Vance hated Trump.
Some earlier statements I'm 100% sure you've heard from the biased MSM trying to tear Vance and Trump down!
To me and a growing number of supporters, this is a great example of logic overcoming emotional decisions.

JD Vance, Trump’s VP pick, once called him a ‘moral disaster,’ and possibly ‘America’s Hitler’​


J.D. Vance’s journey from a ‘Never Trump’ guy to Trump’s VP pick​

“I can’t stomach Trump,” Vance told NPR that August. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him,” Vance told Charlie Rose in October 2016, weeks before Trump was elected president.

So what caused the Saul-to-Paul-like conversion?
The author of the best-selling “Hillbilly Elegy” and movie— which depicted Vance’s childhood in a steel mill community in Ohio in a family beset by drug addiction and poverty — became compulsory reading for many seeking to understand Trump’s appeal to the White working-class voters who had helped install him in the Oval Office.

Now Vance pretty well sums up why he changed along with a 100% on target for the cause of Trump's popularity.
JD Vance: “The problem is if you take that attitude as sort of gloating … then you’re playing into the very thing that gave rise to Trump in the first place, which is a feeling that the elites think that they are smarter than you and just think you’re a bunch of idiots,” Vance said then.

Just to summarize Vance's biography...
1. Born in a poverty where his Dad left the family, his Mom was a drug addict and Vance was raised by his grandmother.
2. Joined Marines went on to serve our nation in the Iraq War,
3. Graduated from The Ohio State University and Yale Law School.
4. He wrote a bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was turned into a Netflix movie.
5. He also started a business dedicated to growing jobs and opportunity in the American heartland.

So what changed Vance from a "Saul-like" to a "Paul-like" ?
Watch this clip and you'll see this quote:

View attachment 978827

Substance over Style!
The point being I just like Vance can't stand a lot of Trump's STYLE characteristics.. i.e. braggart. Narcissistic. etc... i.e.
STYLE!!! It's Trump's SUBSTANCE that I like him and support him!
Now many of you TDS people informed by an extremely BIASED MSM that donated 96% to Hillary in 2016 and 90% to Biden in 2020, while they accentuated the COVID-19 especially stupid comments like "Trump says drink Bleach"!!!
All to defeat Trump in 2020 with still unresolved junk mail voting due to what? COVID again a tool used against Trump.
All of that is in the past. Let's move on to the substance of Trump and now Vance...the next generation!
The benefits of this Trump/Vance ticket are "SUBSTANTIAL"... NOT "STYLISTIC"! We need people that we may not like "style-wise" but people like the soldiers use to say..
."You talk the talk,... do you walk the walk"?

no. just another wanna be faustus making a deal with satan for his soul.
 
Probably most of you aren't aware of this history much less how it relates to JD VANCE!
Paul was known as Saul and was "a Pharisee of Pharisees", who "intensely persecuted" the followers of Jesus.
JD Vance hated Trump.
Some earlier statements I'm 100% sure you've heard from the biased MSM trying to tear Vance and Trump down!
To me and a growing number of supporters, this is a great example of logic overcoming emotional decisions.

JD Vance, Trump’s VP pick, once called him a ‘moral disaster,’ and possibly ‘America’s Hitler’​


J.D. Vance’s journey from a ‘Never Trump’ guy to Trump’s VP pick​

“I can’t stomach Trump,” Vance told NPR that August. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him,” Vance told Charlie Rose in October 2016, weeks before Trump was elected president.

So what caused the Saul-to-Paul-like conversion?
The author of the best-selling “Hillbilly Elegy” and movie— which depicted Vance’s childhood in a steel mill community in Ohio in a family beset by drug addiction and poverty — became compulsory reading for many seeking to understand Trump’s appeal to the White working-class voters who had helped install him in the Oval Office.

Now Vance pretty well sums up why he changed along with a 100% on target for the cause of Trump's popularity.
JD Vance: “The problem is if you take that attitude as sort of gloating … then you’re playing into the very thing that gave rise to Trump in the first place, which is a feeling that the elites think that they are smarter than you and just think you’re a bunch of idiots,” Vance said then.

Just to summarize Vance's biography...
1. Born in a poverty where his Dad left the family, his Mom was a drug addict and Vance was raised by his grandmother.
2. Joined Marines went on to serve our nation in the Iraq War,
3. Graduated from The Ohio State University and Yale Law School.
4. He wrote a bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was turned into a Netflix movie.
5. He also started a business dedicated to growing jobs and opportunity in the American heartland.

So what changed Vance from a "Saul-like" to a "Paul-like" ?
Watch this clip and you'll see this quote:

View attachment 978827

Substance over Style!
The point being I just like Vance can't stand a lot of Trump's STYLE characteristics.. i.e. braggart. Narcissistic. etc... i.e.
STYLE!!! It's Trump's SUBSTANCE that I like him and support him!
Now many of you TDS people informed by an extremely BIASED MSM that donated 96% to Hillary in 2016 and 90% to Biden in 2020, while they accentuated the COVID-19 especially stupid comments like "Trump says drink Bleach"!!!
All to defeat Trump in 2020 with still unresolved junk mail voting due to what? COVID again a tool used against Trump.
All of that is in the past. Let's move on to the substance of Trump and now Vance...the next generation!
The benefits of this Trump/Vance ticket are "SUBSTANTIAL"... NOT "STYLISTIC"! We need people that we may not like "style-wise" but people like the soldiers use to say..
."You talk the talk,... do you walk the walk"?

No. Just another minion who had to cuck themselves to Trump.

Jr may have fucked up here by pushing Vance on his father. The smarter choice would have been Scott or Haley. Wider appeal.
 
No. Just another minion who had to cuck themselves to Trump.

Jr may have fucked up here by pushing Vance on his father. The smarter choice would have been Scott or Haley. Wider appeal.
Again... you seem to be in favor of "style" versus "substance" which frankly illustrates the artificiality of
some people. Looking at the majority of voters as JD Vance said in a NYTimes quote below.
"Substance" over "style". As I've frequently said.."I personally don't like Trump his style of narcissism, bragging, etc. but I like Vance and a growing number of voters are looking at the results.
Inflation average under Trump:1.03% Biden: 2020-2023 4.6% nearly 3.5 times increase under Biden!
"Substance over Style"!!!
VanceTrumpconversion.png
 
Again... you seem to be in favor of "style" versus "substance" which frankly illustrates the artificiality of
some people. Looking at the majority of voters as JD Vance said in a NYTimes quote below.
"Substance" over "style". As I've frequently said.."I personally don't like Trump his style of narcissism, bragging, etc. but I like Vance and a growing number of voters are looking at the results.
Inflation average under Trump:1.03% Biden: 2020-2023 4.6% nearly 3.5 times increase under Biden!
"Substance over Style"!!!
View attachment 978838
That's the problem. Vance is "style" over substance. This is just bowing and kissing the ring...because for now, Trump is the top dog in the GOP.
 

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