Zone1 Is Jesus God?

[ding]

The teachings of Jesus back the JW teachers, refute him.

 

[surada]

God promised that land and the inhabitants were evil!

So they say.. but the whole Joshua thing is a lie. None of the Canaanite villages were interrupted. They were fairly prosperous and paid tribute to Pharaoh.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It is not worded like that in the Greek lexicons.

Ok let's play what it means game
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Does the second amendment wording mean what it says?

 

[kjw47]

Ok let's play what it means game
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Does the second amendment wording mean what it says?

Gods truth is what matters. The word was not called God in the Greek lexicons he was called god small g.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Gods truth is what matters. The word was not called God in the Greek lexicons he was called god small g.

God's truth? Greek was wrote by man so is it's mans truth?

 

[ding]

God's truth? Greek was wrote by man so is it's mans truth?

Anything which is true is the word of God as God is truth.... among other "things."

 

[hadit]

That not robbery to be equal to God is Catholicism error. Its not like that in all translations.
The same with--The Father, son and holy spirit are the 3 witness bearers. The JW,s were allowed into Catholic archives back in the 60,s or 70,s and came out with proof that the 3 witness bearers are the water, spirit and blood. They weren't allowed back in after that proof exposing Catholicism error. Translations changed because it was proven. Some left both sayings in. Catholicism = 2 Thess 2:3--Her translating screwed it all up. No trinity religion fixed much. Its why those religions are a mass of confusion-disunified-1Cor 1:10 exposes them as false religions.

So post the version you think says differently and is more credible so we can look at it. Don't try to hide behind, "Other translations say different".

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Anything which is true is the word of God as God is truth.... among other "things."

Ok then John 1:1 is true.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.
I believe the op is a JW

 

[TruthNotBS]

Convince me that the Bible says Yeshua is a created being.

John 1:

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Note, it does not say "any thing made that was made, except for Himself". You have to add that in. Anything that was made is pretty definitive.

During Creation, who is creating?

Genesis 1:

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Now, if you are saying that Yeshua created everything, and Genesis is saying that GOD created everything, the conclusion is that Yeshua is God.

Also, in Revelation 19,

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

Note the bold. Where else do we see the title, "Lord of Lords"? Also note that this is no angel, as we see them called angels when they're referenced, in the next verse.

From Deuteronomy 10:

17 For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

God doesn't give other people His own titles.

Are you ready for the answer?

 

[kjw47]

God's truth? Greek was wrote by man so is it's mans truth?

God inspired his bible, through righteous men via holy spirit.

 

[kjw47]

So post the version you think says differently and is more credible so we can look at it. Don't try to hide behind, "Other translations say different".

The New world translation, fixed the errors, put Gods name back where God willed it to be, then the darkness condemned it as a bad translation. But there are other translations. 20 other translations in history has-a god at John 1:1, 3 had was divine, 1 had was godlike.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

God inspired his bible, through righteous men via holy spirit.

He inspired John 1:1 you can reject it I don't care

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The New world translation, fixed the errors, put Gods name back where God willed it to be, then the darkness condemned it as a bad translation. But there are other translations. 20 other translations in history has-a god at John 1:1, 3 had was divine, 1 had was godlike.

You're a JW aren't you?

 

[BS Filter]

Gods truth is what matters. The word was not called God in the Greek lexicons he was called god small g.

Where did you study Greek?

 

[BS Filter]

The New world translation, fixed the errors, put Gods name back where God willed it to be, then the darkness condemned it as a bad translation. But there are other translations. 20 other translations in history has-a god at John 1:1, 3 had was divine, 1 had was godlike.

None of the Watchtower translators knew Hebrew or Greek. They made a Bible to fit their doctrine. It's a sham.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

None of the Watchtower translators knew Hebrew or Greek. They made a Bible to fit their doctrine. It's a sham.

If my memory serves me correctly most if not all of the watch tower translators college kids

 

[BS Filter]

If my memory serves me correctly most if not all of the watch tower translators college kids

They were from the governing body. Four or five old guys.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They were from the governing body. Four or five old guys.

• In the years following its publication however, former Jehovah’s Witnesses have made known the identities of the translators of The New World Translation, they were: Frederick Franz (then Vice President of the JWs), Nathan Knorr (then President of the JWs), Albert Schroeder, George Gangas, and Milton Henschel.
• None of these men possessed the educational background or qualifications to serve as reliable, scholarly translators of the Bible from the original languages. In fact, Frederick Franz, the chief translator on the committee, under oath during a trial in Scotland in 1954, could not even translate a single English verse from the book of Genesis into Hebrew.

 

[onefour1]

• In the years following its publication however, former Jehovah’s Witnesses have made known the identities of the translators of The New World Translation, they were: Frederick Franz (then Vice President of the JWs), Nathan Knorr (then President of the JWs), Albert Schroeder, George Gangas, and Milton Henschel.
• None of these men possessed the educational background or qualifications to serve as reliable, scholarly translators of the Bible from the original languages. In fact, Frederick Franz, the chief translator on the committee, under oath during a trial in Scotland in 1954, could not even translate a single English verse from the book of Genesis into Hebrew.

No wonder kjw47 thinks it's the most flawless translation.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No wonder kjw47 thinks it's the most flawless translation.

They always have a problem with John1:1