is ted cruz eligible to run ??

[kaz]

No- she didn't answer all of your questions- but she did answer the only relevant question- no- Obam did not tell her he was born in Kenya

Which even if you blindly accept that as fact, something you'd never do unless it's what you want to heaer, it still doesn't prove he didn't say it, only that he didn't say it to her

 

[kaz]

Editor does damage control for Obama.

Says you, citing yourself. And you can't back your claim with anything but innuendo and speculation.

While Miriam Goderich offers an eye witness account.

Why would I ignore an eye witness and instead believe you citing yourself, backed with nothing but baseless speculation and fact free innuendo?

He was born in Hawaii, like the birther he is, he lied

And once again- you take your speculation- and create a lie.

You know he did, why are you lying?

All I know for certain is that you continue to lie in this thread.

I have no reason to believe that Barack Obama would tell anyone he was born in Kenya- no one- least of all you- has presented any credible conjecture as to why he would do so- and there is absolutely no evidence to support your lie.

You do know what I said is true, Miriam fact checked my post with all the veracity she fact checked Obama's bio and you believe her. Why are you lying?

 

[Skylar]

Because she told a half story.

In comparison to what? Your completely made up narrative where you can't back anything you've said but only offer us innuendo and speculation?

This is Miriam Goderich's account:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

Born in Kenya Obama s Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

And she utterly destroys your little 'Obama was the first Birther' piece of batshit. All you can do is ignore Miriam and make up whatever you want.

What you can't do is make your imagination anything but speculation and innuendo. Backed by nothing.

Here are things she didn't asnwer:

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

Again, if you did not know the answer to those questions, you'd want answers to dispel the questions. You don't want answers, you know what would come of it. She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement you decided to work with because you didn't want to know more

And in her account, she completely obliterates your 'Obama was the first birther'

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

You simply choose to ignore her and imagine your own narrative, backed with exactly nothing. Your imagination vs. an eye witness account aren't equal.

So far you've given me no reason to ignore Miriam, and believe you. Especially when you've already lied repeatedly in defense of your speculation and innuendo. And presented nothing to back up anything you've said.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Because she told a half story.

In comparison to what? Your completely made up narrative where you can't back anything you've said but only offer us innuendo and speculation?

This is Miriam Goderich's account:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

Born in Kenya Obama s Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

And she utterly destroys your little 'Obama was the first Birther' piece of batshit. All you can do is ignore Miriam and make up whatever you want.

What you can't do is make your imagination anything but speculation and innuendo. Backed by nothing.

Here are things she didn't asnwer:

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

Again, if you did not know the answer to those questions, you'd want answers to dispel the questions. You don't want answers, you know what would come of it. She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement you decided to work with because you didn't want to know more

When Breitbart went public with the pamphlet that day and Drudge Report published it on their website headline an hour later, it caused a viral stir on the internet. Within a couple of hours NBC news issued a report stating they contacted Miriam Goderich and read her prepared statement saying it was a factchecking error in a 2 minute segment. There was no live interview, no follow up story and Goderich went silent refusing to give interviews. The MSM went silent too. It's amazing she remembered that single factchecking error in 1991and had a prepared statement ready for the media..........just in case they got in touch with her by phone that day.

 

[Skylar]

No- she didn't answer all of your questions- but she did answer the only relevant question- no- Obam did not tell her he was born in Kenya

Which even if you blindly accept that as fact, something you'd never do unless it's what you want to heaer, it still doesn't prove he didn't say it, only that he didn't say it to her

Give us a better source on the content of that pamphlet.

You can't. Which is exactly my point. We have eye witness testimony....vs whatever conspiracy batshit you choose to invent, whatever innuendo you make up, whatever lies you choose to tell. And we've already caught you lying.

So on the basis of direct knowledge, she wins. On the basis of credibility, she wins.

Plus, her story makes sense. Obama's place of birth had already been well established in nationally known papers as Hawaii. This was reported in NY Times, the Chicago Tribune, the LA Times and others.

Well BEFORE the pamphlet.

So what purpose would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately when any publisher would be able to look him up in easily via the numerous articles on the man and see the brochure was wrong?

Your narrative doesn't make the slightest sense. And of course is utterly baseless.

Even more telling, what would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately for years afterward when his own autobiography cited his place of birth as Hawaii. And his place of birth was cited as Hawaii in numerous other verifiable sources?

Again, it makes no sense.

A mistake is the only plausible explanation left. And of course, the only one backed by actual evidence.

 

[Skylar]

Because she told a half story.

In comparison to what? Your completely made up narrative where you can't back anything you've said but only offer us innuendo and speculation?

This is Miriam Goderich's account:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

Born in Kenya Obama s Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

And she utterly destroys your little 'Obama was the first Birther' piece of batshit. All you can do is ignore Miriam and make up whatever you want.

What you can't do is make your imagination anything but speculation and innuendo. Backed by nothing.

Here are things she didn't asnwer:

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

Again, if you did not know the answer to those questions, you'd want answers to dispel the questions. You don't want answers, you know what would come of it. She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement you decided to work with because you didn't want to know more

When Breitbart went public with the pamphlet and Drudge Report published it on their website headline, it caused a viral stir on the internet. Within a couple of hours NBC news issued a report stating they contacted Miriam Goderich and read her prepared statement saying it was a factchecking error. There was no follow up story and Goderich went silent refusing to give interviews. It's amazing she remembered that single factchecking error in 1991and had a prepared statement ready for the media..........just in case they got in touch with her by phone that day.

And what day did Breitbart drop the story?

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Because she told a half story.

In comparison to what? Your completely made up narrative where you can't back anything you've said but only offer us innuendo and speculation?

This is Miriam Goderich's account:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

Born in Kenya Obama s Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

And she utterly destroys your little 'Obama was the first Birther' piece of batshit. All you can do is ignore Miriam and make up whatever you want.

What you can't do is make your imagination anything but speculation and innuendo. Backed by nothing.

Here are things she didn't asnwer:

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

Again, if you did not know the answer to those questions, you'd want answers to dispel the questions. You don't want answers, you know what would come of it. She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement you decided to work with because you didn't want to know more

When Breitbart went public with the pamphlet and Drudge Report published it on their website headline, it caused a viral stir on the internet. Within a couple of hours NBC news issued a report stating they contacted Miriam Goderich and read her prepared statement saying it was a factchecking error. There was no follow up story and Goderich went silent refusing to give interviews. It's amazing she remembered that single factchecking error in 1991and had a prepared statement ready for the media..........just in case they got in touch with her by phone that day.

And what day did Breitbart drop the story?

May 17, 2012. That's 21 years later after the pamphlet was released.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

No- she didn't answer all of your questions- but she did answer the only relevant question- no- Obam did not tell her he was born in Kenya

Which even if you blindly accept that as fact, something you'd never do unless it's what you want to heaer, it still doesn't prove he didn't say it, only that he didn't say it to her

Give us a better source on the content of that pamphlet.

You can't. Which is exactly my point. We have eye witness testimony....vs whatever conspiracy batshit you choose to invent, whatever innuendo you make up, whatever lies you choose to tell. And we've already caught you lying.

So on the basis of direct knowledge, she wins. On the basis of credibility, she wins.

Plus, her story makes sense. Obama's place of birth had already been well established in nationally known papers as Hawaii. This was reported in NY Times, the Chicago Tribune, the LA Times and others.

Well BEFORE the pamphlet.

So what purpose would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately when any publisher would be able to look him up in easily via the numerous articles on the man and see the brochure was wrong?

Your narrative doesn't make the slightest sense. And of course is utterly baseless.

Even more telling, what would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately for years afterward when his own autobiography cited his place of birth as Hawaii. And his place of birth was cited as Hawaii in numerous other verifiable sources?

Again, it makes no sense.

A mistake is the only plausible explanation left. And of course, the only one backed by actual evidence.

You must really enjoy being Obama's water boy. How proud you must feel along with your sidekick Suranis.

 

[Skylar]

Because she told a half story.

In comparison to what? Your completely made up narrative where you can't back anything you've said but only offer us innuendo and speculation?

This is Miriam Goderich's account:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

Born in Kenya Obama s Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

And she utterly destroys your little 'Obama was the first Birther' piece of batshit. All you can do is ignore Miriam and make up whatever you want.

What you can't do is make your imagination anything but speculation and innuendo. Backed by nothing.

Here are things she didn't asnwer:

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

Again, if you did not know the answer to those questions, you'd want answers to dispel the questions. You don't want answers, you know what would come of it. She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement you decided to work with because you didn't want to know more

When Breitbart went public with the pamphlet and Drudge Report published it on their website headline, it caused a viral stir on the internet. Within a couple of hours NBC news issued a report stating they contacted Miriam Goderich and read her prepared statement saying it was a factchecking error. There was no follow up story and Goderich went silent refusing to give interviews. It's amazing she remembered that single factchecking error in 1991and had a prepared statement ready for the media..........just in case they got in touch with her by phone that day.

And what day did Breitbart drop the story?

May 17, 2012.

Miriam Goderich's reply came the next day.

Which make sense. She's a partner now with Jane Dystel, half of the team that ran the literary agency in question. Unlike birthers, when an actual news agency wants to know something, they go to the source and ask.

They did. And this was the reply:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

You simply ignore her.

 

[Skylar]

No- she didn't answer all of your questions- but she did answer the only relevant question- no- Obam did not tell her he was born in Kenya

Which even if you blindly accept that as fact, something you'd never do unless it's what you want to heaer, it still doesn't prove he didn't say it, only that he didn't say it to her

Give us a better source on the content of that pamphlet.

You can't. Which is exactly my point. We have eye witness testimony....vs whatever conspiracy batshit you choose to invent, whatever innuendo you make up, whatever lies you choose to tell. And we've already caught you lying.

So on the basis of direct knowledge, she wins. On the basis of credibility, she wins.

Plus, her story makes sense. Obama's place of birth had already been well established in nationally known papers as Hawaii. This was reported in NY Times, the Chicago Tribune, the LA Times and others.

Well BEFORE the pamphlet.

So what purpose would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately when any publisher would be able to look him up in easily via the numerous articles on the man and see the brochure was wrong?

Your narrative doesn't make the slightest sense. And of course is utterly baseless.

Even more telling, what would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately for years afterward when his own autobiography cited his place of birth as Hawaii. And his place of birth was cited as Hawaii in numerous other verifiable sources?

Again, it makes no sense.

A mistake is the only plausible explanation left. And of course, the only one backed by actual evidence.

You must really enjoy being Obama's water boy. How proud you must feel along with your sidekick Suranis.

Smiling....notice you don't actually disagree with me.

Remember that.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

In comparison to what? Your completely made up narrative where you can't back anything you've said but only offer us innuendo and speculation?

This is Miriam Goderich's account:

And she utterly destroys your little 'Obama was the first Birther' piece of batshit. All you can do is ignore Miriam and make up whatever you want.

What you can't do is make your imagination anything but speculation and innuendo. Backed by nothing.

Here are things she didn't asnwer:

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

Again, if you did not know the answer to those questions, you'd want answers to dispel the questions. You don't want answers, you know what would come of it. She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement you decided to work with because you didn't want to know more

When Breitbart went public with the pamphlet and Drudge Report published it on their website headline, it caused a viral stir on

In comparison to what? Your completely made up narrative where you can't back anything you've said but only offer us innuendo and speculation?

This is Miriam Goderich's account:

And she utterly destroys your little 'Obama was the first Birther' piece of batshit. All you can do is ignore Miriam and make up whatever you want.

What you can't do is make your imagination anything but speculation and innuendo. Backed by nothing.

Here are things she didn't asnwer:

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

Again, if you did not know the answer to those questions, you'd want answers to dispel the questions. You don't want answers, you know what would come of it. She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement you decided to work with because you didn't want to know more

When Breitbart went public with the pamphlet and Drudge Report published it on their website headline, it caused a viral stir on the internet. Within a couple of hours NBC news issued a report stating they contacted Miriam Goderich and read her prepared statement saying it was a factchecking error. There was no follow up story and Goderich went silent refusing to give interviews. It's amazing she remembered that single factchecking error in 1991and had a prepared statement ready for the media..........just in case they got in touch with her by phone that day.

And what day did Breitbart drop the story?

May 17, 2012.

Miriam Goderich's reply came the next day.

Which make sense. She's a partner now with Jane Dystel, half of the team that ran the literary agency in question. Unlike birthers, when an actual news agency wants to know something, they go to the source and ask.

They did. And this was the reply:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

You simply ignore her.

NBC news read that prepared statement on the evening news in a 2 minute segment. We never heard Miriam Goderich in her own words. There was no follow up interview. Most likely the White House prepared that statement for release.

 

[Skylar]

NBC news read that prepared statement on the evening news in a 2 minute segment. We never heard Miriam Goderich in her own words. There was no follow up interview. Most likely the White House prepared that statement for release.

Laughing.....so are you claiming that Miriam Goderich didn't make the statement?

If so, show us your evidence.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Show us the evidence she did omitting any media source.

 

[Skylar]

Show us the evidence she did omitting any media source.

Why would I omit a media source?

 

[Syriusly]

Because she told a half story.

In comparison to what? Your completely made up narrative where you can't back anything you've said but only offer us innuendo and speculation?

This is Miriam Goderich's account:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich

Born in Kenya Obama s Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

And she utterly destroys your little 'Obama was the first Birther' piece of batshit. All you can do is ignore Miriam and make up whatever you want.

What you can't do is make your imagination anything but speculation and innuendo. Backed by nothing.

Here are things she didn't asnwer:

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

Again, if you did not know the answer to those questions, you'd want answers to dispel the questions. You don't want answers, you know what would come of it. She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement you decided to work with because you didn't want to know more

1) Who did say he was born in Kenya? All she said was she didn't fact check it- there is no evidence that anyone ever said Obama was born in Kenya.

2) Why did they say he was born in Kenya?
there is no evidence that anyone did say Obama was born in Kenya

3) Why didn't she fact check it? It was her job, there were 12 facts in the bio. How could she possibly fail to fact check a one paragraph blurb when her job was fact checking?

The only error I have seen is the word 'Kenya'- that is not evidence that she didn't fact check a paragraph, it is evidence of one word being incorrect. As she said- the error was hers.

Since I know Barack Obama was born in Kenya- and since I had seen the articles in 1990 that listed Barack Obama's place of birth as Hawaii- why would I care what some obscure brochure said in 1991- that appears to be a clear anomaly from every other time Obama's place of birth is mentioned.

Only an ardent anti-Obamite would try to stir up controversy that does not exist in the minds of rational people.

An anti-Obamite who would lie and say:
She was run to by the White House and the liberal media and she came up with a statement

Rational people do not live their lives by speculation- but all you present are your lies based upon your speculation.

 

[Syriusly]

No- she didn't answer all of your questions- but she did answer the only relevant question- no- Obam did not tell her he was born in Kenya

Which even if you blindly accept that as fact, something you'd never do unless it's what you want to heaer, it still doesn't prove he didn't say it, only that he didn't say it to her

There is no evidence that Barack Obama ever said he was born in Kenya.

There is evidence that Barack Obama never told Goodrich he was born in Kenya

So of course you lie and say Barack Obama was the first birther.

 

[Syriusly]

No- she didn't answer all of your questions- but she did answer the only relevant question- no- Obam did not tell her he was born in Kenya

Which even if you blindly accept that as fact, something you'd never do unless it's what you want to heaer, it still doesn't prove he didn't say it, only that he didn't say it to her

Give us a better source on the content of that pamphlet.

You can't. Which is exactly my point. We have eye witness testimony....vs whatever conspiracy batshit you choose to invent, whatever innuendo you make up, whatever lies you choose to tell. And we've already caught you lying.

So on the basis of direct knowledge, she wins. On the basis of credibility, she wins.

Plus, her story makes sense. Obama's place of birth had already been well established in nationally known papers as Hawaii. This was reported in NY Times, the Chicago Tribune, the LA Times and others.

Well BEFORE the pamphlet.

So what purpose would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately when any publisher would be able to look him up in easily via the numerous articles on the man and see the brochure was wrong?

Your narrative doesn't make the slightest sense. And of course is utterly baseless.

Even more telling, what would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately for years afterward when his own autobiography cited his place of birth as Hawaii. And his place of birth was cited as Hawaii in numerous other verifiable sources?

Again, it makes no sense.

A mistake is the only plausible explanation left. And of course, the only one backed by actual evidence.

You must really enjoy being Obama's water boy. How proud you must feel along with your sidekick Suranis.

You really enjoy smearing African Americans.

And Jews

And homosexuals

That you are also a Birther is just a bonus.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

No- she didn't answer all of your questions- but she did answer the only relevant question- no- Obam did not tell her he was born in Kenya

Which even if you blindly accept that as fact, something you'd never do unless it's what you want to heaer, it still doesn't prove he didn't say it, only that he didn't say it to her

There is no evidence that Barack Obama ever said he was born in Kenya.

There is evidence that Barack Obama never told Goodrich he was born in Kenya

So of course you lie and say Barack Obama was the first birther.

He was!

 

[Syriusly]

Show us the evidence she did omitting any media source.

Funny since she was responding to an article in 'media'.

Not that you would believe her when it comes to Obama even if Jesus was standing next to her with a sign saying "Yep its true".

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

No- she didn't answer all of your questions- but she did answer the only relevant question- no- Obam did not tell her he was born in Kenya

Which even if you blindly accept that as fact, something you'd never do unless it's what you want to heaer, it still doesn't prove he didn't say it, only that he didn't say it to her

Give us a better source on the content of that pamphlet.

You can't. Which is exactly my point. We have eye witness testimony....vs whatever conspiracy batshit you choose to invent, whatever innuendo you make up, whatever lies you choose to tell. And we've already caught you lying.

So on the basis of direct knowledge, she wins. On the basis of credibility, she wins.

Plus, her story makes sense. Obama's place of birth had already been well established in nationally known papers as Hawaii. This was reported in NY Times, the Chicago Tribune, the LA Times and others.

Well BEFORE the pamphlet.

So what purpose would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately when any publisher would be able to look him up in easily via the numerous articles on the man and see the brochure was wrong?

Your narrative doesn't make the slightest sense. And of course is utterly baseless.

Even more telling, what would be served in intentionally listing Obama's place of birth inaccurately for years afterward when his own autobiography cited his place of birth as Hawaii. And his place of birth was cited as Hawaii in numerous other verifiable sources?

Again, it makes no sense.

A mistake is the only plausible explanation left. And of course, the only one backed by actual evidence.

You must really enjoy being Obama's water boy. How proud you must feel along with your sidekick Suranis.

You really enjoy smearing African Americans.

And Jews

And homosexuals.

And don't forget wetbacks. No my Obama water boy, they are the vile evil that has destroyed the moral fabric of this nation.