Is the Occupation of the West Bank Morally Justified?

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But Jordan was?

Can you be more specific?

 

[fncceo]

Let me know when the occupation of California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Colorado is ended ... then we can talk.

 

[Picaro]

The definition of ethics is a moral principle that govern behavior or the conducting of an activity; the branch of knowledge that deals with moral principles.

The purpose of this OP is to discuss the morality/ethics of the occupation of the West Bank.

"The world recently marked fifty years since the end of the 1967 Arab-Israeli “Six Day” War and the beginning of the indefinite military occupation of Palestinian West Bank. It was one of the shortest wars; it has been one of the longest occupations. The international community continues to ask, how much longer should it go on? When will it finally end?

Countries that support Israel with military aid, such as the United States, have a duty to question the validity of this ongoing intervention. Some question aspects of its legal validity—focusing on treaties between Israel and its neighbors or citing the Fourth Geneva Convention’s prohibition against transferring civilian population into occupied territories. However, it is also important to consider moral validity. Is Israel morally justified in continuing its indefinite military occupation of Palestine? If not, countries like the United States should exercise moral leadership in helping its ally end the occupation..."

Is the Occupation of the West Bank Morally Justified? – KENNEDY SCHOOL REVIEW

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Yes. And, the only other country it was formerly occupied by has conceded its claims over the West Bank and parts of Jerusalem, especially the Temple Mount. Hebron and other illegally occupied towns need to be returned to their rightful owners as well.

 

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Let me know when the occupation of California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Colorado is ended ... then we can talk.

Are you making a two wrongs makes a right argument?

 

[Mindful]

Can you be more specific?

Are you serious?

Let me know when the occupation of California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Colorado is ended ... then we can talk.

He doesn’t ‘get’ things.

 

[Mindful]

Can you be more specific?

Are you serious?

 

[Picaro]

Let me know when the occupation of California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Colorado is ended ... then we can talk.

The populations of those states before the U.S. made them territories was nearly non-existent; there was no 'occupation' before the U.S. came along. Some dumbass Spaniards claiming land all the way to Alaska doesn't mean it all suddenly reverted to Mexico in 1821, especially since almost no Mexicans would be caught dead north of Tampico until long after the U.S. got rid of the filthy savages roaming around murdering and pillaging.

 

[fncceo]

Are you making a two wrongs makes a right argument?

That would be six wrongs.

If you're living on land anywhere in the world that once belonged to another peoples, you need to move before you can become morally outraged at The Jews.

 

[Picaro]

When evaluating Israel’s transgression of those borders according to Just War Theory, this analysis finds that Israel was morally justified in its initial wartime occupation of the West Bank, but is not morally justified in its continued occupation of that land and its people.

Who else has a claim? No one legitimate; Jordan conceded its claims back in the 1990's. They lost the war, and bowed out.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Are you serious?

Not serious enough, he is ignoring my posts completely. I think he is a closet anti- Semite.

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Yes. And, the only other country it was formerly occupied by has conceded its claims over the West Bank and parts of Jerusalem, especially the Temple Mount. Hebron and other illegally occupied towns need to be returned to their rightful owners as well.

To be justified, military actions must meet seven criteria for determining why, when, and how nations can use military force: just cause, right intention, legitimate authority, hope of success, last resort, just means, and proportional force.

In using the Just War Theory to evaluate Israel’s occupation, we can distinguish between two of its actions: the initial military advancement into the West Bank during the 1967 War, and the ongoing occupation after the war officially ended. For the sake of precision, this analysis will focus on the West Bank alone, apart from the other territorial occupations of Gaza or the Golan Heights. This analysis will also take as granted the sovereignty of Israel’s pre-1967 borders, even though many Palestinian refugees maintain valid land-claims within that territory. When evaluating Israel’s transgression of those borders according to Just War Theory, this analysis finds that Israel was morally justified in its initial wartime occupation of the West Bank, but is not morally justified in its continued occupation of that land and its people.

 

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Are you serious?


He doesn’t ‘get’ things.

Yes, can you be more specific. I'd rather not assume I know what your argument is. It's yours to make.

 

[Mindful]

To be justified, military actions must meet seven criteria for determining why, when, and how nations can use military force: just cause, right intention, legitimate authority, hope of success, last resort, just means, and proportional force.

In using the Just War Theory to evaluate Israel’s occupation, we can distinguish between two of its actions: the initial military advancement into the West Bank during the 1967 War, and the ongoing occupation after the war officially ended. For the sake of precision, this analysis will focus on the West Bank alone, apart from the other territorial occupations of Gaza or the Golan Heights. This analysis will also take as granted the sovereignty of Israel’s pre-1967 borders, even though many Palestinian refugees maintain valid land-claims within that territory. When evaluating Israel’s transgression of those borders according to Just War Theory, this analysis finds that Israel was morally justified in its initial wartime occupation of the West Bank, but is not morally justified in its continued occupation of that land and its people.

There has to be a country, for it to be occupied.

 

[Mindful]

Yes, can you be more specific. I'd rather not assume I know what your argument is. It's yours to make.

Go here. If you are serious.

Myths & Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict Table of Contents

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

I’m not going to give you a history lesson.

 

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Not serious enough, he is ignoring my posts completely. I think he is a closet anti- Semite.

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I'm not anti- Semite, closeted or otherwise.

I didn't see a need to respond to your posts because it doesn't address the topic of the morality of Israel's continued occupation.

 

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There has to be a country, for it to be occupied.

That's a losing argument, my dear.

In using the Just War Theory to evaluate Israel’s occupation, we can distinguish between two of its actions: the initial military advancement into the West Bank during the 1967 War, and the ongoing occupation after the war officially ended. For the sake of precision, this analysis will focus on the West Bank alone, apart from the other territorial occupations of Gaza or the Golan Heights. This analysis will also take as granted the sovereignty of Israel’s pre-1967 borders, even though many Palestinian refugees maintain valid land-claims within that territory. When evaluating Israel’s transgression of those borders according to Just War Theory, this analysis finds that Israel was morally justified in its initial wartime occupation of the West Bank, but is not morally justified in its continued occupation of that land and its people.

 

[Picaro]

To be justified, military actions must meet seven criteria for determining why, when, and how nations can use military force: just cause, right intention, legitimate authority, hope of success, last resort, just means, and proportional force.

In using the Just War Theory to evaluate Israel’s occupation, we can distinguish between two of its actions: the initial military advancement into the West Bank during the 1967 War, and the ongoing occupation after the war officially ended. For the sake of precision, this analysis will focus on the West Bank alone, apart from the other territorial occupations of Gaza or the Golan Heights. This analysis will also take as granted the sovereignty of Israel’s pre-1967 borders, even though many Palestinian refugees maintain valid land-claims within that territory. When evaluating Israel’s transgression of those borders according to Just War Theory, this analysis finds that Israel was morally justified in its initial wartime occupation of the West Bank, but is not morally justified in its continued occupation of that land and its people.

Jordan had 'sovereignity' over the West Bank; they conceded that a long time ago, and no longer claim it. they are the Palestinian State. There are no 'Palestinian refugees'; they left the country to join the losing side. The other states own them, not Israel; they're Syrian, Egyptian, and Jordanian 'refugees'. Jews are the land's people, not Jordanians, Egyptians, and Syrian squatters.

 

[Sunsettommy]

I'm not anti- Semite, closeted or otherwise.

I didn't see a need to respond to your posts because it doesn't address the topic of the morality of Israel's continued occupation.

Ha ha ha, actually it does, and it is impossible for you to address it, that is why you ignore it.

Before Israel came along, the region was loosely occupied by people, no actual nation there.

That is why your entire post is loaded and dishonest.

 

[harmonica]

When evaluating Israel’s transgression of those borders according to Just War Theory, this analysis finds that Israel was morally justified in its initial wartime occupation of the West Bank, but is not morally justified in its continued occupation of that land and its people.

keep living in fairytale land

 

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Go here. If you are serious.

Myths & Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict Table of Contents

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

I’m not going to give you a history lesson.

I'm not asking for a history lesson. I am asking for YOUR argument.