Is there a place of eternal punishment?

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I believe the references to such a place is symbolism in Gods written word. That the lake of fire( eternal destruction) = the second death( no life in death) Jesus taught those who walk the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
Also when one knows the true God, they know it cannot be a truthful teaching. Here is what Gods written word teaches about who the true God is.

Deuteronomy 32:4-- All of Gods ways are justice--- God taught us all that justice-- an eye for an eye--- a balanced set of scales, God applies to all decisions. Lets apply this teaching to Gods scales.

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin ------- on the other side- trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment.

See any balance--NO-- not Gods scales--thus a sadistic lie taught about the true God by teachers of darkness.
 
I believe the references to such a place is symbolism in Gods written word. That the lake of fire( eternal destruction) = the second death( no life in death) Jesus taught those who walk the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
Also when one knows the true God, they know it cannot be a truthful teaching. Here is what Gods written word teaches about who the true God is.

Deuteronomy 32:4-- All of Gods ways are justice--- God taught us all that justice-- an eye for an eye--- a balanced set of scales, God applies to all decisions. Lets apply this teaching to Gods scales.

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin ------- on the other side- trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment.

See any balance--NO-- not Gods scales--thus a sadistic lie taught about the true God by teachers of darkness.

You don't base your arguments on anything other than faulty reasoning and assumptions.
 
There are over 400 bible scriptures referencing hell in the Old Testament and the New. Hell is a literal place. Located in the center of the earth. Paradise used to be located within seeing distance ( in center of earth but above it ) and when Jesus went into the belly of the earth and took the keys to hell and death he released those in Paradise to later go with him him into heaven. Paradise is now empty of his people and used by Satan for his own captives. Hell enlarges itself also as more and more are going there every day. Millions upon millions going to hell, imagine it. It is enough to keep you up at night. In fact, it should, Pacer.

As to the scriptures on the dead being below the earth - see 1 Samuel 28: 7 - 20 - you will notice when the Witch of Endor called up Samuel he came up out of the earth in spirit form to speak to Saul - he did tell Saul that he would die and that he would be with him down there - so we know God did show mercy to Saul... Later in Luke 16: 19 - 31 you see the account Jesus gives about the rich man and Lazarus who is in the bosom of Abraham - there is a gulf between hell and paradise yet the rich man is asking Lazarus for a drop of water so we know it wasn't too far off.. still one side could not go to the other...

It is written:

There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores. And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich mans table, moreoever the dogs came and licked his sores.

And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom, the rich man also died, and was buried, and in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.

But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things, but now he is comforted and you are tormented.

And besides all this between you and I there is a great gulf fixed. so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot, neither can they pass to us, that would come from hence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father , that thou wouldest send him, to my father's house. For I have five brothers that he may testify unto them, let they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. - Luke 16: 19 - 31

Do you know why Jesus told this story? Because Moses and the prophets knew about hell - some of them had visions of heaven and hell - perhaps all - we know Isaiah did, David must have, Ezekiel did, many have seen visions of heaven and hell and now in the end days we see accounts from many people having visions of heaven and hell and dreams as well. Even in their near death experiences visions of hell!

It is written:

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy and your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions.. and also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. - Joel 2: 28,29

Yes, what hasn't God done for us to warn us about this place! And still we are having a debate over whether or not there is an eternal place of punishment! It is right under our very feet! In the center of the earth! How much more should men tremble at the thought of not being ready to die tonight! If you were to die tonight do you know where you would be? Would you know you would be in heaven? Do you realize that you can know that? You can escape hell? Yes! Jesus Christ paid the price! Read Romans 10: 8 - 15 and do not neglect so great a salvation, people! Wake up for heavens sakes!!!
 
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I believe the references to such a place is symbolism in Gods written word. That the lake of fire( eternal destruction) = the second death( no life in death) Jesus taught those who walk the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
Also when one knows the true God, they know it cannot be a truthful teaching. Here is what Gods written word teaches about who the true God is.

Deuteronomy 32:4-- All of Gods ways are justice--- God taught us all that justice-- an eye for an eye--- a balanced set of scales, God applies to all decisions. Lets apply this teaching to Gods scales.

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin ------- on the other side- trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment.

See any balance--NO-- not Gods scales--thus a sadistic lie taught about the true God by teachers of darkness.

Actually it is God's way of letting you know just how sadistic Satan is and why you should choose to serve God instead of Satan, Pacer. You see, I'm serving God down here for maybe 50 - 70 yrs depending on my length of days and in return I am going to spend eternity in the presence of Almighty God - Eye has not seen, hear has not heard what he has prepared! One cannot even imagine it although we get glimpses from others who have seen it such as Mary K Baxter, John Bunyan, Isaiah, Ezekiel, ,,,, yet to see it - to be there? I wouldn't want to miss it for the world! The sad part? Some people will! Some people actually believe that by serving Satan he is going to give them immortality. That they won't die here... Madonna is one such person who has bought that lie - others like her have bought into this lie but truly Satan is the father of lies, a trickster and what he has promised his workers he will not deliver when the time comes. Instead they will be in hell cruelly tormented day after day for all eternity - is it worth it? No. Repent and call upon the name of the Lord and thou shalt be saved. Romans 10: 8 - 15. There is your answer. - Jeri
 
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Is the fervor of God for an Islamic really that different than said fervor for a Christian? Or a Jew? Or a Hindu?

It's not what we worship that so much sets us apart, but how we worship.

And in the interim, it all gets lost in translation.

Ergo, killing in the name of God. It's gone on for millennia.

If I could sum up my religion in one phrase it would be this...

"Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home".

In other words (my words), deal with your own shit and quit fucking with other people. For any reason- especially religious reasons.

Get your own groove on, then get on with life. Quit manicuring the bullshit.
 
I disagree with you, Mr. H. First of all Jews and Christians and Hindus are not killing others in the name of God or their faith so I do know where you tie the Islamic religion into the others.. there is no correlation.. furthermore, let me ask you this question.. suppose you live in an apartment building on the top floor and you have a sign on your door do not disturb - we sleep during the day. One day smoke floods the bottom floor and as I live on the ground floor I pull the fire alarm. It does not sound. I have to go door to door banging on doors to wake up people and tell them the building is on fire! Time to get out! I get to your door! You say I have a sign on my door! Do not wake me up! I say, do you want to burn up with the building? The building is on fire! You say oh! You get the wife, the dog and the rest of the fam and head down stairs with everyone else. Now you are all safe and the building goes up in a burst of flames.


Do you still regret my having knocked on your door?

Scenario two - you say Don't knock on my door so I knock on the doors around your apt to save their lives and you complain about the noise? Do you have a right to complain about other people having their lives saved while you opted out? No. You don't. In your own words .......shaddup!

NOTE* We are not talking about a building made of mortar and stone by the way but rather your eternal soul which is far more important that the temorary life we have here which is but a vapor compared to the eternity we are facing! ( in either one place or another mind you.....) In other words, this is far more serious than fire rescue .....like 10,000 xs more serious and even that would not scratch the surface of it. But truly if you do not desire to hear me speak to you about Christ I won't. On the other hand, I will continue to write about it on threads such as these so if you don't like that just don't read my writings. That ought to solve any discomfort you feel over the realities of hell. Have a nice evening. - Jeri
 
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I disagree with you, Mr. H. First of all Jews and Christians and Hindus are not killing others in the name of God or their faith so I do know where you tie the Islamic religion into the others.. there is no correlation.. furthermore, let me ask you this question.. suppose you live in an apartment building on the top floor and you have a sign on your door do not disturb - we sleep during the day. One day smoke floods the bottom floor and as I live on the ground floor I pull the fire alarm. It does not sound. I have to go door to door banging on doors to wake up people and tell them the building is on fire! Time to get out! I get to your door! You say I have a sign on my door! Do not wake me up! I say, do you want to burn up with the building? The building is on fire! You say oh! You get the wife, the dog and the rest of the fam and head down stairs with everyone else. Now you are all safe and the building goes up in a burst of flames.


Do you still regret my having knocked on your door?

Scenario two - you say Don't knock on my door so I knock on the doors around your apt to save their lives and you complain about the noise? Do you have a right to complain about other people having their lives saved while you opted out? No. You don't. In your own words .......shaddup!

NOTE* We are not talking about a building made of mortar and stone by the way but rather your eternal soul which is far more important that the temorary life we have here which is but a vapor compared to the eternity we are facing! ( in either one place or another mind you.....) In other words, this is far more serious than fire rescue .....like 10,000 xs more serious and even that would not scratch the surface of it. But truly if you do not desire to hear me speak to you about Christ I won't. On the other hand, I will continue to write about it on threads such as these so if you don't like that just don't read my writings. That ought to solve any discomfort you feel over the realities of hell. Have a nice evening. - Jeri

I'd say knock three times on the ceiling if you want me... twice on the pipes if the answer is no.

Jerms, you're a good guy... but I think you're way out there and far too gone into the Biblical realm to make much coherent sense.

Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home.

That's my Bible. Short simple and to the point. See you in the afterlife, my friend.
 
I believe the references to such a place is symbolism in Gods written word. That the lake of fire( eternal destruction) = the second death( no life in death) Jesus taught those who walk the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
Also when one knows the true God, they know it cannot be a truthful teaching. Here is what Gods written word teaches about who the true God is.

Deuteronomy 32:4-- All of Gods ways are justice--- God taught us all that justice-- an eye for an eye--- a balanced set of scales, God applies to all decisions. Lets apply this teaching to Gods scales.

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin ------- on the other side- trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment.

See any balance--NO-- not Gods scales--thus a sadistic lie taught about the true God by teachers of darkness.


That there is a second death implies that there is a first one. The first death is as a consequence to defying the commands of God, the death that so many here so perfectly display. The second death would be the death of the body, physical death.

Hell, Gehenna, the place of eternal condemnation, is a state of mind exclusive to the physically alive but spiritually dead. If a person rises from the spiritually dead before their body dies the second death, which is death of the body, physical death will not harm them, they will never know what it is to die.

If a person does not rise to life from the spiritually dead while they are alive, when their body dies the second death they will be judged according to their words and deeds.

Think of eternal condemnation like this; There will never be a time when filling your mind with irrational nonsense will result in anything other than confusion, death. There will never be a time when God would approve of people teaching confusion. To God such teaching will forever bee condemned as the vile and contaminating flesh of unclean beasts. It has always been and shall will always be this way. People come and go, but this place of confusion and state of condemnation, death, remains but only torments people who teach and believe preposterous things that they never sought proof of and can only result in confusion....

Hell will vanish and Satan will disappear from the earth as soon as people stop being gullible.......
 
I believe the references to such a place is symbolism in Gods written word. That the lake of fire( eternal destruction) = the second death( no life in death) Jesus taught those who walk the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
Also when one knows the true God, they know it cannot be a truthful teaching. Here is what Gods written word teaches about who the true God is.

Deuteronomy 32:4-- All of Gods ways are justice--- God taught us all that justice-- an eye for an eye--- a balanced set of scales, God applies to all decisions. Lets apply this teaching to Gods scales.

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin ------- on the other side- trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment.

See any balance--NO-- not Gods scales--thus a sadistic lie taught about the true God by teachers of darkness.


That there is a second death implies that there is a first one. The first death is as a consequence to defying the commands of God, the death that so many here so perfectly display. The second death would be the death of the body, physical death.

Hell, Gehenna, the place of eternal condemnation, is a state of mind exclusive to the physically alive but spiritually dead. If a person rises from the spiritually dead before their body dies the second death, which is death of the body, physical death will not harm them, they will never know what it is to die.

If a person does not rise to life from the spiritually dead while they are alive, when their body dies the second death they will be judged according to their words and deeds.

Think of eternal condemnation like this; There will never be a time when filling your mind with irrational nonsense will result in anything other than confusion, death. There will never be a time when God would approve of people teaching confusion. To God such teaching will forever bee condemned as the vile and contaminating flesh of unclean beasts. It has always been and shall will always be this way. People come and go, but this place of confusion and state of condemnation, death, remains but only torments people who teach and believe preposterous things that they never sought proof of and can only result in confusion....

Hell will vanish and Satan will disappear from the earth as soon as people stop being gullible.......

Hell shall be cast into the Lake of Fire where Satan also is due to be cast in the future but the torment of the damned shall be for all eternity, Hobelim. Do not be deceived, whatsover a man sows that shall he reap. If he reaps to the flesh he shall reap corruption and if he sows to the Spirit he shall have everlasting life. Where a soul goes is determined by whom they serve. Those who are Christs have crucified the lusts of their flesh and walk according to the Spirit. Jesus warned the Jewish religious leaders that while Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were enjoying heaven they themselves would be shut outside. Why? Because they rejected the LORD. That is why. Do not be like them. Do not be foolish. Jesus is Yeshua Ha'Maschiah. The one who is coming who claims to be the Messiah will be the false one sent to deceive the world. Don't believe that liar.
 
I believe the references to such a place is symbolism in Gods written word. That the lake of fire( eternal destruction) = the second death( no life in death) Jesus taught those who walk the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
Also when one knows the true God, they know it cannot be a truthful teaching. Here is what Gods written word teaches about who the true God is.

Deuteronomy 32:4-- All of Gods ways are justice--- God taught us all that justice-- an eye for an eye--- a balanced set of scales, God applies to all decisions. Lets apply this teaching to Gods scales.

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin ------- on the other side- trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment.

See any balance--NO-- not Gods scales--thus a sadistic lie taught about the true God by teachers of darkness.


That there is a second death implies that there is a first one. The first death is as a consequence to defying the commands of God, the death that so many here so perfectly display. The second death would be the death of the body, physical death.

Hell, Gehenna, the place of eternal condemnation, is a state of mind exclusive to the physically alive but spiritually dead. If a person rises from the spiritually dead before their body dies the second death, which is death of the body, physical death will not harm them, they will never know what it is to die.

If a person does not rise to life from the spiritually dead while they are alive, when their body dies the second death they will be judged according to their words and deeds.

Think of eternal condemnation like this; There will never be a time when filling your mind with irrational nonsense will result in anything other than confusion, death. There will never be a time when God would approve of people teaching confusion. To God such teaching will forever bee condemned as the vile and contaminating flesh of unclean beasts. It has always been and shall will always be this way. People come and go, but this place of confusion and state of condemnation, death, remains but only torments people who teach and believe preposterous things that they never sought proof of and can only result in confusion....

Hell will vanish and Satan will disappear from the earth as soon as people stop being gullible.......

Hell shall be cast into the Lake of Fire where Satan also is due to be cast in the future but the torment of the damned shall be for all eternity, Hobelim. Do not be deceived, whatsover a man sows that shall he reap. If he reaps to the flesh he shall reap corruption and if he sows to the Spirit he shall have everlasting life. Where a soul goes is determined by whom they serve. Those who are Christs have crucified the lusts of their flesh and walk according to the Spirit. Jesus warned the Jewish religious leaders that while Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were enjoying heaven they themselves would be shut outside. Why? Because they rejected the LORD. That is why. Do not be like them. Do not be foolish. Jesus is Yeshua Ha'Maschiah. The one who is coming who claims to be the Messiah will be the false one sent to deceive the world. Don't believe that liar.

Why do you insist on massaging such philosophical rhetoric?

Live a simple life, die a simple death. It really is as easy as that. Stop aggrandizing yourself.
 
I disagree with you, Mr. H. First of all Jews and Christians and Hindus are not killing others in the name of God or their faith so I do know where you tie the Islamic religion into the others.. there is no correlation.. furthermore, let me ask you this question.. suppose you live in an apartment building on the top floor and you have a sign on your door do not disturb - we sleep during the day. One day smoke floods the bottom floor and as I live on the ground floor I pull the fire alarm. It does not sound. I have to go door to door banging on doors to wake up people and tell them the building is on fire! Time to get out! I get to your door! You say I have a sign on my door! Do not wake me up! I say, do you want to burn up with the building? The building is on fire! You say oh! You get the wife, the dog and the rest of the fam and head down stairs with everyone else. Now you are all safe and the building goes up in a burst of flames.


Do you still regret my having knocked on your door?

Scenario two - you say Don't knock on my door so I knock on the doors around your apt to save their lives and you complain about the noise? Do you have a right to complain about other people having their lives saved while you opted out? No. You don't. In your own words .......shaddup!

NOTE* We are not talking about a building made of mortar and stone by the way but rather your eternal soul which is far more important that the temorary life we have here which is but a vapor compared to the eternity we are facing! ( in either one place or another mind you.....) In other words, this is far more serious than fire rescue .....like 10,000 xs more serious and even that would not scratch the surface of it. But truly if you do not desire to hear me speak to you about Christ I won't. On the other hand, I will continue to write about it on threads such as these so if you don't like that just don't read my writings. That ought to solve any discomfort you feel over the realities of hell. Have a nice evening. - Jeri

I'd say knock three times on the ceiling if you want me... twice on the pipes if the answer is no.

Jerms, you're a good guy... but I think you're way out there and far too gone into the Biblical realm to make much coherent sense.



Every day is a journey, and the journey itself is home.







That's my Bible. Short simple and to the point. See you in the afterlife, my friend.



The scriptures declare that the gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing but to those who are being saved it is the very power of God, Mr. H. I understand you not understanding and that is fine. But as you say we shall meet up in the afterlife I take it you shall not deny me the small grace of praying Gods best for you and your family. (which I do ) I have confidence for His answers. Even if others doubt he exists. :eusa_angel:

p.s. every day is a journey but this world is not my home. Heaven is and one day I'm going there. And I'm taking the people on this board with me by God's grace. That is my goal. I'm pretty determined so I believe it's going to happen. If you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior Mr. H. you won't be seeing me in the afterlife though. You have to do your part and accept him as your Savior, you know, but I will pray Jesus meets you in your dreams to confirm what I'm telling you. You are a precious man and God loves you. But the devil does'nt. He envies you because you can still go to heaven and he has lost his chance forever. He's pea green with envy. I'm telling ya.
 
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I believe the references to such a place is symbolism in Gods written word. That the lake of fire( eternal destruction) = the second death( no life in death) Jesus taught those who walk the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
Also when one knows the true God, they know it cannot be a truthful teaching. Here is what Gods written word teaches about who the true God is.

Deuteronomy 32:4-- All of Gods ways are justice--- God taught us all that justice-- an eye for an eye--- a balanced set of scales, God applies to all decisions. Lets apply this teaching to Gods scales.

On one side--70-90 years of unrepented sin ------- on the other side- trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment.

See any balance--NO-- not Gods scales--thus a sadistic lie taught about the true God by teachers of darkness.

You think it is about justice but really it is about vengeance:

Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Another reason to punish you is just because you did spiritually doesn't mean you cease to be living. You can live in hell and still sin and sin is also eternal so it has to be punished eternally. The other reason you punish sin eternally is to teach people not to sin.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Those who do not believe in hell have a serious problem with this verse. Those who believe you have to wait until the white throne judgment to be judged have a serious problem too. Abideth means:

Greek Lexicon :: G3306 (KJV)

1) to remain, abide

a) in reference to place

1) to sojourn, tarry

2) not to depart

a) to continue to be present

b) to be held, kept, continually

b) in reference to time

1) to continue to be, not to perish, to last, endure

a) of persons, to survive, live

c) in reference to state or condition

1) to remain as one, not to become another or different

2) to wait for, await one


And that is my teaching.
 
I believe the references to such a place is symbolism in Gods written word. That the lake of fire( eternal destruction) = the second death( no life in death) Jesus taught those who walk the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.

If the dead shall be raised incorruptible (1 Cor. 15:52) and if the mortal shall put on immortality (1 Cor. 15:54) and if death is swallowed up in victory, how will the dead be annihilated if they are immortal?

1Cr 15:55 O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.

Their bodies are awakened to everlasting contempt.

Jesus said,"I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore [eis tous aionas ton aionon] (Rev. 1:17-18, NASB).

Revelation 20:10: "And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon]."

What you need to explain is how the same verse is used the same way but means different things as if one translation means 'eternal' and the other doesn't. If you translate the same passage one way then you have to be consistent and translate the other passage the same way and it just wouldn't make sense to translate it another way because there are so many verses in the Bible which would refute that God isn't eternal. That is the point all scholars were trying to point out to us.

Not one of these translations translates "aionion" as anything other than "eternal" or similar.

Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.


New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"Then the king will say to those on his left, 'Get away from me! God has cursed you! Go into everlasting fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels!

King James Bible
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

American Standard Version
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:

Bible in Basic English
Then will he say to those on the left, Go from me, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire which is ready for the Evil One and his angels:

Douay-Rheims Bible
Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels.

Darby Bible Translation
Then shall he say also to those on the left, Go from me, cursed, into eternal fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

English Revised Version
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:

Tyndale New Testament
Then shall the king say unto them that shall be on the left hand: depart from me ye cursed, into everlasting fire, which is prepared for the devil and his angels.

Weymouth New Testament
"Then will He say to those at His left, "'Begone from me, with the curse resting upon you, into the Fire of the Ages, which has been prepared for the Devil and his angels.

Webster's Bible Translation
Then will he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

World English Bible
Then he will say also to those on the left hand,'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels;

Young's Literal Translation
Then shall he say also to those on the left hand, Go ye from me, the cursed, to the fire, the age-during, that hath been prepared for the Devil and his messengers;

I could quote the New World Translation that the Jehovah's Witnesses use but that is taking the discussion to the next level.

Matthew 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Annihilation is an end to payment or forgiveness of debt but burning in hell is what is referred to as not forgiving.

Isaiah 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

The sinner in hell is compared to an undying worm and not a dieing worm.

And just because you refer to death doesn't mean we exactly know what death means:

David F. Wells discusses the wide range of meanings of the above three Biblical words:

Sinners are ‘cut off’ (Ps. 37:9, 22, 28, 34, 38), but so is the Messiah (Dan. 9:26); sinners are ‘destroyed’ (Ps. 143:12), but so was Israel (Hos. 13:9; cf. Isa. 9:14) and so were the sheep and coins that were then found (Luke 15:4, 8); unbelievers are said to ‘die,’ but then all of us have always been ‘dead’ (Rom. 6:13; 7:4; Eph. 2:1, 5; cf. Rom. 7:10, 13; 8:2, 6; I Tim. 5:6; Col. 2:13; Rev. 3:1), and that surely does not mean we have been without existence and consciousness. (42).

Rev 22:11 "Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy."

At the judgment, it says they will keep on sinning "still do wrong" and you can't still do wrong if you are annihilated. I know this is the NASB and not the King James but the definitions for the King James in the Blue Letter Bible support the way it was translated in the NASB even though the King James translators didn't bring out the meaning.

Psalm 22:6 But I [am] a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

David or this messianic passage is applied to a person meaning that the worm is symbolic of a person.

Mark 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

The sinner is compared to a worm that "dieth not". He isn't compared to a worm that dies.
 
Is there a place of eternal punishment?


why there is an Almighty is to insure no such place or person will exist when a Spirit is set free.


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We create our own hells on earth, just as (I believe) we can create our own hell in the afterlife. At the end of the day, it's all attitude. Stay positive, do good things, and I don't think you'll have to worry about eternal damnation.
 

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