Is there ever justification for violence?

[Pete7469]

This is kind of yesterday's topic.

Could you fast-forward to 2021?

Not really. It's a general question about when it is justifiable to revolt against a government. Is taxation a reason that is done by a government that you feel no longer represents you and does not conduct fair elections?

This quote by Ben Franklin still cracks me up

“It would be thought a hard government that should tax its people one tenth part.”
BTW, the courts had an obligation to hear the fraud case accusations brought forth by the President of the United States.

Instead, they cancelled his Twitter account and the media refused to let him speak to the public.

All the courts had to do was get it all out in the open and let the public decide, but they failed.

It was not the taxes that caused the war, it was the attempt to disarm us that did.

NEVER FORGET THAT, and never be disarmed or ye shall suffer the fate of those who were....

 

[Votto]

Looking through the pages of history, who here agrees that the Founding Fathers should have fought a bloody revolution with the king of England?

Offenses include

1. Taxation without representation
2. Colonists treated lower than citizens of England
3. And when England came after the ammo, all hell broke loose.

Was it justifiable, or should they have all hung as insurrectionists?

The thing is about crossing the violence line is that you better make sure you win.

Winners are founders and inspirations, losers are traitors and corpses.

By all accounts they should have lost. They whole affair really was a miracle to succeed.

Think of it, they were going up against the most powerful nation on earth. The only thing that saved them was:

1. A large ocean separating the two lands
2. A primitive army with primitive weapons
3. France entered the war to help
4. The mounting debt in England and public anger over the continuous war

And at the end of the day, they still lost pretty much every battle.

The British army and Navy were primarily designed for war against European enemies, and shorter distances. They had far more expeditionary power than the other European powers except maybe for Spain, but the majority of their expertise and power was not designed for colonial fighting against European colonists.

I would add 5, that they could only use a fraction of their power for the fight, as they had to reserve the bulk of their forces in case Europe went hot.

I think #3 is implicit in that, but agree

 

[pknopp]

Of course there is. The country has decided that overturning a fair election is not one of those cases though.

 

[Indeependent]

This is kind of yesterday's topic.

Could you fast-forward to 2021?

History repeats itself every second.

 

[RodISHI]

Yes.

In response to the violence of aggressors.

“Violence” is by definition force: the type of force promoted and compelled at whorehouses. Rape and wholesale prostitution.

Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 6:11-13 - King James Version

The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence...

www.biblegateway.com

Sounds like it fits some political types and corporate thugs to a tee.

 

[Votto]

This is kind of yesterday's topic.

Could you fast-forward to 2021?

The Founding Fathers are a rather looming problem for Progressive democrats

For they wish to raise our taxes, along with inflation due to the massive spending, which will erode our wealth away like a candle being burned at two ends, and they wish to take all guns.

So Progressives are left with two options, either start teaching children they were all insurrectionist criminals, or just don't teach them anything at all about them in the schools. Then again, they seem to be doing a little bit of both these days.

 

[badbob85037]

This is kind of yesterday's topic.

Could you fast-forward to 2021?

Not really. It's a general question about when it is justifiable to revolt against a government. Is taxation a reason that is done by a government that you feel no longer represents you and does not conduct fair elections?

This quote by Ben Franklin still cracks me up

“It would be thought a hard government that should tax its people one tenth part.”
BTW, the courts had an obligation to hear the fraud case accusations brought forth by the President of the United States.

Instead, they cancelled his Twitter account and the media refused to let him speak to the public.

All the courts had to do was get it all out in the open and let the public decide, but they failed.

I would say it should have happened way back when the government murdered 100 members of a church group with lies bringing in Delta Force to burn, crush and machine gun . Any survivors were put on trial found innocent by a jury and a judge gave all maximum sentences. America?

 

[Votto]

This is kind of yesterday's topic.

Could you fast-forward to 2021?

History repeats itself every second.

Not only that, history repeats itself every second.

 

[Votto]

This is kind of yesterday's topic.

Could you fast-forward to 2021?

Not really. It's a general question about when it is justifiable to revolt against a government. Is taxation a reason that is done by a government that you feel no longer represents you and does not conduct fair elections?

This quote by Ben Franklin still cracks me up

“It would be thought a hard government that should tax its people one tenth part.”
BTW, the courts had an obligation to hear the fraud case accusations brought forth by the President of the United States.

Instead, they cancelled his Twitter account and the media refused to let him speak to the public.

All the courts had to do was get it all out in the open and let the public decide, but they failed.

I would say it should have happened way back when the government murdered 100 members of a church group with lies bringing in Delta Force to burn, crush and machine gun . Any survivors were put on trial found innocent by a jury and a judge gave all maximum sentences. America?

Well let's be honest here. There is no means for a revolution to succeed today. It would be suicide.

Either the US goes belly up and implodes fiscally, or work to change things politically.

In other words, wait for it all to implode, which it will. Then all that will be left are a bunch of angry white conservatives militias.