Is this Republican led Senate the most inept in American history?

[Dad2three]

Republicans have a two year window when they control Congress

Looks like they are content to celebrate their 2014 victories and do nothing

Meanwhile, Obama has no political pressure on him and is the only one in town who is actually accomplishing things

Very true winger, and everything that obama is "accomplishing" is hurting american citizens. But we understand, you are not allowed to criticize your messiah.

Look

I understand Republicans want to accomplish conservative things and Democrats want to accomplish liberal things...There is nothing that Obama can do that Republicans would classify as an accomplishment

But Obama is accomplishing his liberal things in spite of being a lame duck president. The Republicans have been unable to mark a single major accomplishment

That is the difference

Yes, you are correct. and the american people are the victims of obama and his accomplishments.

But since you keep bringing it up. give us a list of the things he has personally done that help average americans.

Kept US out of a SECOND GOP GREAT DEPRESSION after 8 years of Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies!!!

total bullshit. there was no recession in 08 and certainly not a depression. there was a market correction, nothing more. we had a similar one last week. Damn, you libs are such liars.

Yep, the Dubya economy dumping 9%+ of GDP the last quarter of 2008 (3+ years growth) wasn't ANYTHING, Nor the loss of 8 million jobs in a year happened under Dubya/GOP "Job creator" policies, lol

 

[depotoo]

You still failed to check out your states high risk pool. You had 36 months to do it.

What state do you live in?

Yes, you are correct. and the american people are the victims of obama and his accomplishments.

But since you keep bringing it up. give us a list of the things he has personally done that help average americans.

HEALTH CARE!!!!

Oh, yeah. lets talk about obozocare.

Great.

Premiums, for those paying, have doubled
Deductibles are up
coverage is down
doctors are leaving medicine
hospitals are closing
the website doesn't work
Yes, for those who get it free, its great. But those people always got free medical care.

No one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare. NO ONE.

This terrible law was not passed by dems to fix medical care, it was passed as the first step to nationalizing (socializing) medicine.

To call the worst legislation in the history of our nation an accomplishment just shows how indoctrinated with bullshit that you are.

I have insurance now when nobody would sell it to me before because of a
pre- existing condition. THANKS OBAMA!!!

Texas. Go ahead and Google Cobra. That only lasts for 36 months.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jroc simply thinks he can say things and people will believe it.

Premiums, for those paying, have doubled prove it
Deductibles are up how much
coverage is down for who
doctors are leaving medicine they all do eventually
hospitals are closing how many are opening
the website doesn't work that's a lie
Yes, for those who get it free, its great. But those people always got free medical care. no, they don't

No one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare. NO ONE. that's a lie

And the far right wonders why they can't tear down the world

sorry, snarkey. But you are simply full of shit.

And the above is why you neo-cons and anti-Americans lose in national elections.

 

[Redfish]

Very true winger, and everything that obama is "accomplishing" is hurting american citizens. But we understand, you are not allowed to criticize your messiah.

Look

I understand Republicans want to accomplish conservative things and Democrats want to accomplish liberal things...There is nothing that Obama can do that Republicans would classify as an accomplishment

But Obama is accomplishing his liberal things in spite of being a lame duck president. The Republicans have been unable to mark a single major accomplishment

That is the difference

Yes, you are correct. and the american people are the victims of obama and his accomplishments.

But since you keep bringing it up. give us a list of the things he has personally done that help average americans.

Kept US out of a SECOND GOP GREAT DEPRESSION after 8 years of Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies!!!

total bullshit. there was no recession in 08 and certainly not a depression. there was a market correction, nothing more. we had a similar one last week. Damn, you libs are such liars.

Were you in a coma in 2008?

5 negative quarters of GDP, losing 700,000 jobs a month, stock market dropping 7000 points is just a "correction"?

figures don't lie, but liars figure. none of what you said is true. 2008 was a market correction, nothing more. I actually made a lot of money in 2008, I bought when everyone else was selling.

 

[Redfish]

Jroc simply thinks he can say things and people will believe it.

Premiums, for those paying, have doubled prove it
Deductibles are up how much
coverage is down for who
doctors are leaving medicine they all do eventually
hospitals are closing how many are opening
the website doesn't work that's a lie
Yes, for those who get it free, its great. But those people always got free medical care. no, they don't

No one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare. NO ONE. that's a lie

And the far right wonders why they can't tear down the world

sorry, snarkey. But you are simply full of shit.

And the above is why you neo-cons and anti-Americans lose in national elections.

conservatives lose because snarkey is full of shit???????????????? Uh, ok.

 

[Redfish]

did you see my post, 42 TRAITOROUS DEMORATS... | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum ...??

42 traitors who hate the Constitution and America. they should be deported to I-fucking-ran if they love it so damn much more than THE U.S.A. !!!!!

The Dems didn't have the power to stop anything without Mitch McConnell

ANOTHER right winger who doesn't understand without 60 votes to push through legislation AND 67 to override a Obama veto of stupid right wing bills like "repealing" ACA? lol

You know "power" in the Senate that ONLY means you have majority, NOT EXECUTIVE BRANCH SUPER DUPER POWERS (day to day running of Gov't!!!)

LOL, except when Reid changed the rules to pass obozocare with 60 votes. you libs are such hypocrites.

Changed the rules? lol


Oh right the same reconciliation Dubya/GOP used for BOTH his tax cuts!

Yeah, right. it was terrible when Bush did it, but great when Reid did it. OK ?????

 

[whitehall]

Surely even fake republicans have to know that a slim majority in the senate can't solve the mess in seven months that Barry Hussein made in seven years. Way back when democrats gained the majority in congress in Bush's last two years what's the first issue the senate tackled? The economy? Foreign policy? Nope, Harry Reid's majority went after steroid use in baseball. In the House Barney Frank became chairperson of the House Banking Committee that had oversight responsibility for Fannie Mae. Frank assured Americans that Fannie was doing fine when it was on the verge of collapse. Was he just stupid or did democrats plan the biggest October surprise in history when Fannie brought the economy down just in time for the election?

 

[candycorn]

Look

I understand Republicans want to accomplish conservative things and Democrats want to accomplish liberal things...There is nothing that Obama can do that Republicans would classify as an accomplishment

But Obama is accomplishing his liberal things in spite of being a lame duck president. The Republicans have been unable to mark a single major accomplishment

That is the difference

Yes, you are correct. and the american people are the victims of obama and his accomplishments.

But since you keep bringing it up. give us a list of the things he has personally done that help average americans.

Kept US out of a SECOND GOP GREAT DEPRESSION after 8 years of Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies!!!

total bullshit. there was no recession in 08 and certainly not a depression. there was a market correction, nothing more. we had a similar one last week. Damn, you libs are such liars.

Were you in a coma in 2008?

5 negative quarters of GDP, losing 700,000 jobs a month, stock market dropping 7000 points is just a "correction"?

figures don't lie, but liars figure. none of what you said is true. 2008 was a market correction, nothing more. I actually made a lot of money in 2008, I bought when everyone else was selling.

Yes a correction in the the...

Housing Market
Jobs Market
Stock Market
Food Market
etc...

Simply put; you're full of shit. You're head is so far up your ass you're probably coughing up dandruff.

 

[BULLDOG]

So you chose not to go with cobra. And you failed to check your states availability of a high risk pool. Gotcha. And you want everyone else to suffer for your lack of action, because you were lazy.

I have insurance now when nobody would sell it to me before because of a
pre- existing condition. THANKS OBAMA!!!

Well good for you. Were you denied treatment before ACA? Did you go to a hospital and get sent home to die? Are you paying for your obozo insurance or getting it free?

1. Yes. Emergency rooms will care for you when you are bleeding, or in the middle of a heart attack, but things like monitoring a pace maker or any kind of regular care or test is not their job.
2. yes
3. Yes. I pay every penny for my policy that allows regular visits to a cardiologist.

again THANKS OBAMA!!!!

1. where did you get the pacemaker? You obviously got it before obamacare, so how did you get it under the terrible medical system pre-ACA?

2. I don't believe you

3. There were two things that needed fixing: insurance companies should have been required to take people with pre-existing conditions at a reasonable premium. there should have been no lifetime maximums in policies. Those two fixes could have been made with a one page bill that would have not disrupted the entire medical system and increased the cost for taxpayers and everyone who pays for insurance.

4. since you say you now pay for your policy, why were you unable to afford a policy before ACA? Having a pre-existing condition did not prevent you from getting coverage, it just made it cost more.

1. I got it before the company I worked for sold to a larger company and laid me off and canceled my policy. Since the new company used different insurance, I was not given the option of paying to keep the policy.
2. Doesn't matter if you believe me.
3. I agree, but that didn't happen.
4. Wrong.

Who said I didn't do cobra for the 36 allowed months? You really don't know much about the defunct Texas high risk pool.do you? I understand that you are desperately trying to find some way to mark me as some bum who is somehow taking advantage of you. It just isn't so. I and many others needed ACA because there were no other options. Sorry if that doesn't match what rush told you.

 

[BULLDOG]

You still failed to check out your states high risk pool. You had 36 months to do it.

What state do you live in?

HEALTH CARE!!!!

Oh, yeah. lets talk about obozocare.

Great.

Premiums, for those paying, have doubled
Deductibles are up
coverage is down
doctors are leaving medicine
hospitals are closing
the website doesn't work
Yes, for those who get it free, its great. But those people always got free medical care.

No one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare. NO ONE.

This terrible law was not passed by dems to fix medical care, it was passed as the first step to nationalizing (socializing) medicine.

To call the worst legislation in the history of our nation an accomplishment just shows how indoctrinated with bullshit that you are.

I have insurance now when nobody would sell it to me before because of a
pre- existing condition. THANKS OBAMA!!!

Texas. Go ahead and Google Cobra. That only lasts for 36 months.

No. Go away now. I've answered your questions, and obviously your mind is still made up. You are wrong. It's that simple.

 

[Redfish]

So you chose not to go with cobra. And you failed to check your states availability of a high risk pool. Gotcha. And you want everyone else to suffer for your lack of action, because you were lazy.

Well good for you. Were you denied treatment before ACA? Did you go to a hospital and get sent home to die? Are you paying for your obozo insurance or getting it free?

1. Yes. Emergency rooms will care for you when you are bleeding, or in the middle of a heart attack, but things like monitoring a pace maker or any kind of regular care or test is not their job.
2. yes
3. Yes. I pay every penny for my policy that allows regular visits to a cardiologist.

again THANKS OBAMA!!!!

1. where did you get the pacemaker? You obviously got it before obamacare, so how did you get it under the terrible medical system pre-ACA?

2. I don't believe you

3. There were two things that needed fixing: insurance companies should have been required to take people with pre-existing conditions at a reasonable premium. there should have been no lifetime maximums in policies. Those two fixes could have been made with a one page bill that would have not disrupted the entire medical system and increased the cost for taxpayers and everyone who pays for insurance.

4. since you say you now pay for your policy, why were you unable to afford a policy before ACA? Having a pre-existing condition did not prevent you from getting coverage, it just made it cost more.

1. I got it before the company I worked for sold to a larger company and laid me off and canceled my policy. Since the new company used different insurance, I was not given the option of paying to keep the policy.
2. Doesn't matter if you believe me.
3. I agree, but that didn't happen.
4. Wrong.

Who said I didn't do cobra for the 36 allowed months? You really don't know much about the defunct Texas high risk pool.do you? I understand that you are desperately trying to find some way to mark me as some bum who is somehow taking advantage of you. It just isn't so. I and many others needed ACA because there were no other options. Sorry if that doesn't match what rush told you.

Your situation could have been addressed and resolved without destroying the entire medical system with a government take-over. A simple one page bill could have resolved your issue.

You also need to face the reality that you are part of a tiny minority who have been caught between coverages with a pre-existing condition. ACA was massive overkill for a very small problem.

 

[depotoo]

If indeed you took cobra, which I question due to your response, you had 36 months to check into Texas high risk pool, which you obviously didn't care enough to do, or was it that you were lazy? Most people would be checking into all their options, if indeed they felt their life was at risk. And did you just not go back to work? If your health was bad enough to prevent that then you could have gotten disability, which would have qualified you for healthcare. You had options, no matter the situation.

So you chose not to go with cobra. And you failed to check your states availability of a high risk pool. Gotcha. And you want everyone else to suffer for your lack of action, because you were lazy.

Well good for you. Were you denied treatment before ACA? Did you go to a hospital and get sent home to die? Are you paying for your obozo insurance or getting it free?

1. Yes. Emergency rooms will care for you when you are bleeding, or in the middle of a heart attack, but things like monitoring a pace maker or any kind of regular care or test is not their job.
2. yes
3. Yes. I pay every penny for my policy that allows regular visits to a cardiologist.

again THANKS OBAMA!!!!

1. where did you get the pacemaker? You obviously got it before obamacare, so how did you get it under the terrible medical system pre-ACA?

2. I don't believe you

3. There were two things that needed fixing: insurance companies should have been required to take people with pre-existing conditions at a reasonable premium. there should have been no lifetime maximums in policies. Those two fixes could have been made with a one page bill that would have not disrupted the entire medical system and increased the cost for taxpayers and everyone who pays for insurance.

4. since you say you now pay for your policy, why were you unable to afford a policy before ACA? Having a pre-existing condition did not prevent you from getting coverage, it just made it cost more.

1. I got it before the company I worked for sold to a larger company and laid me off and canceled my policy. Since the new company used different insurance, I was not given the option of paying to keep the policy.
2. Doesn't matter if you believe me.
3. I agree, but that didn't happen.
4. Wrong.

Who said I didn't do cobra for the 36 allowed months? You really don't know much about the defunct Texas high risk pool.do you? I understand that you are desperately trying to find some way to mark me as some bum who is somehow taking advantage of you. It just isn't so. I and many others needed ACA because there were no other options. Sorry if that doesn't match what rush told you.

 

[Dad2three]

Look

I understand Republicans want to accomplish conservative things and Democrats want to accomplish liberal things...There is nothing that Obama can do that Republicans would classify as an accomplishment

But Obama is accomplishing his liberal things in spite of being a lame duck president. The Republicans have been unable to mark a single major accomplishment

That is the difference

Yes, you are correct. and the american people are the victims of obama and his accomplishments.

But since you keep bringing it up. give us a list of the things he has personally done that help average americans.

HEALTH CARE!!!!

Oh, yeah. lets talk about obozocare.

Great.

Premiums, for those paying, have doubled
Deductibles are up
coverage is down
doctors are leaving medicine
hospitals are closing
the website doesn't work
Yes, for those who get it free, its great. But those people always got free medical care.

No one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare. NO ONE.

This terrible law was not passed by dems to fix medical care, it was passed as the first step to nationalizing (socializing) medicine.

To call the worst legislation in the history of our nation an accomplishment just shows how indoctrinated with bullshit that you are.

How Many Die From Medical Mistakes In U.S. Hospitals?


September 17, 2009

Harvard Medical Study Links Lack of Insurance to 45,000 U.S. Deaths a Year

The Harvard study found that people without health insurance had a 40 percent higher risk of death than those with private health insurance — as a result of being unable to obtain necessary medical care. The risk appears to have increased since 1993, when a similar study found the risk of death was 25 percent greater for the uninsured.

The increase in risk, according to the study, is likely to be a result of at least two factors. One is the greater difficulty the uninsured have today in finding care, as public hospitals have closed or cut back on services. The other is improvements in medical care for insured people with treatable chronic conditions like high blood pressure.

“As health care for the insured gets better, the gap between the insured and uninsured widens,” Dr. Woolhandler said.

The researchers also concluded that other ways of delivering care to the uninsured, like providing them with community health centers, are not adequate substitutes for health insurance. Individuals need the access to hospitals and specialists that comes only with adequate insurance coverage, Dr. Woolhander said.



http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes....-of-insurance-to-45000-us-deaths-a-year/?_r=0

Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher — between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death.
why do the liberals hate poor people? Statistically, you have less of a chance of dying without care than you do with.

Sure Bubs, I bet you "believe' it too? lol

Why have ANY H/C then? Dumbass

 

[BULLDOG]

So you chose not to go with cobra. And you failed to check your states availability of a high risk pool. Gotcha. And you want everyone else to suffer for your lack of action, because you were lazy.

1. Yes. Emergency rooms will care for you when you are bleeding, or in the middle of a heart attack, but things like monitoring a pace maker or any kind of regular care or test is not their job.
2. yes
3. Yes. I pay every penny for my policy that allows regular visits to a cardiologist.

again THANKS OBAMA!!!!

1. where did you get the pacemaker? You obviously got it before obamacare, so how did you get it under the terrible medical system pre-ACA?

2. I don't believe you

3. There were two things that needed fixing: insurance companies should have been required to take people with pre-existing conditions at a reasonable premium. there should have been no lifetime maximums in policies. Those two fixes could have been made with a one page bill that would have not disrupted the entire medical system and increased the cost for taxpayers and everyone who pays for insurance.

4. since you say you now pay for your policy, why were you unable to afford a policy before ACA? Having a pre-existing condition did not prevent you from getting coverage, it just made it cost more.

1. I got it before the company I worked for sold to a larger company and laid me off and canceled my policy. Since the new company used different insurance, I was not given the option of paying to keep the policy.
2. Doesn't matter if you believe me.
3. I agree, but that didn't happen.
4. Wrong.

Who said I didn't do cobra for the 36 allowed months? You really don't know much about the defunct Texas high risk pool.do you? I understand that you are desperately trying to find some way to mark me as some bum who is somehow taking advantage of you. It just isn't so. I and many others needed ACA because there were no other options. Sorry if that doesn't match what rush told you.

Your situation could have been addressed and resolved without destroying the entire medical system with a government take-over. A simple one page bill could have resolved your issue.

You also need to face the reality that you are part of a tiny minority who have been caught between coverages with a pre-existing condition. ACA was massive overkill for a very small problem.

That didn't happen, and the right wingers didn't even think there was a problem.

 

[paulitician]

No. But it is pretty awful. It's a Party with no leaders. Boehner and McConnell are as corrupt as they come. Bought off buffoons. That's why Trump's doing so well. He's a leader. The rest of the Candidates it's offering, besides Rand Paul, are milquetoast wussies.

You don't know where most Republicans really stand on anything anymore. Because they're too afraid to take a stand on anything. They feel it's safer to keep ya guessing and just waffle along. Those who take stands, also take heat. Trump seems to be the only one willing to step up and take some heat. The Party needs leaders again. It has to ditch the milquetoast wafflers.

 

[depotoo]

Do I sense a need to avoid the real truth?

You still failed to check out your states high risk pool. You had 36 months to do it.

What state do you live in?

Oh, yeah. lets talk about obozocare.

Great.

Premiums, for those paying, have doubled
Deductibles are up
coverage is down
doctors are leaving medicine
hospitals are closing
the website doesn't work
Yes, for those who get it free, its great. But those people always got free medical care.

No one in the USA was denied medical care before obamacare. NO ONE.

This terrible law was not passed by dems to fix medical care, it was passed as the first step to nationalizing (socializing) medicine.

To call the worst legislation in the history of our nation an accomplishment just shows how indoctrinated with bullshit that you are.

I have insurance now when nobody would sell it to me before because of a
pre- existing condition. THANKS OBAMA!!!

Texas. Go ahead and Google Cobra. That only lasts for 36 months.

No. Go away now. I've answered your questions, and obviously your mind is still made up. You are wrong. It's that simple.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Republicans have a two year window when they control Congress

Looks like they are content to celebrate their 2014 victories and do nothing

Meanwhile, Obama has no political pressure on him and is the only one in town who is actually accomplishing things

And what an accomplishment it is.

 

[Dad2three]

did you see my post, 42 TRAITOROUS DEMORATS... | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum ...??

42 traitors who hate the Constitution and America. they should be deported to I-fucking-ran if they love it so damn much more than THE U.S.A. !!!!!

The Dems didn't have the power to stop anything without Mitch McConnell

ANOTHER right winger who doesn't understand without 60 votes to push through legislation AND 67 to override a Obama veto of stupid right wing bills like "repealing" ACA? lol

You know "power" in the Senate that ONLY means you have majority, NOT EXECUTIVE BRANCH SUPER DUPER POWERS (day to day running of Gov't!!!)

LOL, except when Reid changed the rules to pass obozocare with 60 votes. you libs are such hypocrites.

Changed the rules? lol


Oh right the same reconciliation Dubya/GOP used for BOTH his tax cuts!

Yeah, right. it was terrible when Bush did it, but great when Reid did it. OK ?????

Glad you agree, there was no change in how it was used Bubs

 

[depotoo]

Actually, right wingers did realize there was a problem, but the Dems didn't care for their solutions. Dem's wanted to try to get their hands into the healthcare system any way they could, to control it.

So you chose not to go with cobra. And you failed to check your states availability of a high risk pool. Gotcha. And you want everyone else to suffer for your lack of action, because you were lazy.

1. where did you get the pacemaker? You obviously got it before obamacare, so how did you get it under the terrible medical system pre-ACA?

2. I don't believe you

3. There were two things that needed fixing: insurance companies should have been required to take people with pre-existing conditions at a reasonable premium. there should have been no lifetime maximums in policies. Those two fixes could have been made with a one page bill that would have not disrupted the entire medical system and increased the cost for taxpayers and everyone who pays for insurance.

4. since you say you now pay for your policy, why were you unable to afford a policy before ACA? Having a pre-existing condition did not prevent you from getting coverage, it just made it cost more.

1. I got it before the company I worked for sold to a larger company and laid me off and canceled my policy. Since the new company used different insurance, I was not given the option of paying to keep the policy.
2. Doesn't matter if you believe me.
3. I agree, but that didn't happen.
4. Wrong.

Who said I didn't do cobra for the 36 allowed months? You really don't know much about the defunct Texas high risk pool.do you? I understand that you are desperately trying to find some way to mark me as some bum who is somehow taking advantage of you. It just isn't so. I and many others needed ACA because there were no other options. Sorry if that doesn't match what rush told you.

Your situation could have been addressed and resolved without destroying the entire medical system with a government take-over. A simple one page bill could have resolved your issue.

You also need to face the reality that you are part of a tiny minority who have been caught between coverages with a pre-existing condition. ACA was massive overkill for a very small problem.

That didn't happen, and the right wingers didn't even think there was a problem.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Glad you agree, there was no change in how it was used Bubs

There is no hypocrisy like demopocrisy....