Is Trump’s CPAC speech still not enough to convince republicans that he is an idiot?

The whole thing was bizarre, childish and full of non-sense. It’s just incredible to me that Trump would actually bring up the size of his inauguration crowd after 2 years. What the absolute fuck?

If that wasn’t enough, he had to bring up Hillary and of course the mindless drones in the audience shouted the “lock her up!” Are you fucking kidding me? They are still talking about Hillary? God I wish they would lock her up so republicans can just shut the fuck up about her. It’s astounding how republicans pretend she is still relevant to anything.

Also, how could any grown adult not realize how ridiculous Trump looks when he hugs the American flag? He could start humping it and his supporters would still go ape shit in applause I guess.

If he'd hugged that flag any harder he would have had to give it hush money.

It was a 2 hour and 20 minute rant.

My observation was, given Trump's sensitivity to the crowd, who had the guts to just walk out after an hour of babbling blather?

I bet the faithful stood there like the mindless minions that they are and would rather have peed themselves than turn their back on their master.
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It was 2 hours and 2 minutes Butt Hurt....

Can't you Tards get anything right?

And the drunken repubs just kept squealing for more!
 
They need to bring back shop classes that can actually lead to a career.
And I aint talken woodshop. Schools need to teach machining,plumbing,electrical and other blue collar work.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
I loved working with my hands and stumbled into machining purely by accident.
Was into racing BMX as a kid and worked in a lot of bike shops in my youth.
A buddy was quitting his job at the machine shop I mentioned and he put in a good word.
I was hooked the first time I saw a guy running a lathe.

They already exist. They’re called Vocatiooor TechnioHigh Schools and at some you can learn anything from Hair Cutting to CAD Design, and Carpentry to Advanced Machinist skills. They do, however, still require students to complete the basic criteria for high school graduation in English, Math, Science, Social Studies, etc...

They sure didnt when I was in high school.
Unless of course you went outside the school system and paid for your education out of pocket.
They need to make those kind of classes available in our local school systems.
 
I was a very poor student in school, then at 18 I ended up in a job overseas. I excelled and got promoted, the only problem was my dumb ass couldn't write a decent report to save my life. The guy who promoted me took me under his wing and drilled grammar and spelling into my head. Only problem is he was English so sometimes I use that spelling rather than the usual American version. Like "realize" vs "realise".

Anyway, it was one of the best things that could have happened to me. Came back to the States, went to college, got educated, yadda yadda.

Same here.
I hated school and math was my worst subject. Dropped out in the tenth grade and went to work in a machine shop.
Kinda funny,worked my way up from a shop grunt to a 1st class machinist.
I learned math real quick when I could apply it to making money in something that I found fascinating.
Always been a hands on type when it comes to education.
The thing that made the most difference was I was a voracious reader from the 3rd grade up until today.
I read everything I could get my hands on about machining and it paid off.
Later in life I started reading about the stock market and how it worked. Again I had motivation.
School to me was a huge waste of time because I couldnt apply it to everyday life.
Amazing how that works huh?

They need to bring back shop classes that can actually lead to a career.
And I aint talken woodshop. Schools need to teach machining,plumbing,electrical and other blue collar work.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
I loved working with my hands and stumbled into machining purely by accident.
Was into racing BMX as a kid and worked in a lot of bike shops in my youth.
A buddy was quitting his job at the machine shop I mentioned and he put in a good word.
I was hooked the first time I saw a guy running a lathe.
I'm good with my hands as well, but not a machinist. I build dragsters on the weekends, so I visit machine shops fairly often though. I'm working a junkyard project right now. Fitting a pair of M90 superchargers on a 5.2 Dakota, just to see if I can.

Nice!
Looking at putting a Magnuson SC on my Tundra.
Put one on my 98 Tacoma..What a difference!!!
Nice! Yeah, forced induction is definitely the way to go. My understanding is those magnusun kits for the Toyota's will give you a 30% boost in peak HP and a hefty helping of torque too even limited to the boost a stock set up can take.
 
LOL...when I first got into political forums I couldnt spell for shit!
Every time I played the wife in scrabble she'd kick my ass,not due to the words being wrong but on the spelling.
I now keep trying to spell words until I get em right,if I cant manage to do that I look em up.
It's improved my spelling dramatically over the years.
My work involved numbers with very little spelling involved.
I was a very poor student in school, then at 18 I ended up in a job overseas. I excelled and got promoted, the only problem was my dumb ass couldn't write a decent report to save my life. The guy who promoted me took me under his wing and drilled grammar and spelling into my head. Only problem is he was English so sometimes I use that spelling rather than the usual American version. Like "realize" vs "realise".

Anyway, it was one of the best things that could have happened to me. Came back to the States, went to college, got educated, yadda yadda.

Same here.
I hated school and math was my worst subject. Dropped out in the tenth grade and went to work in a machine shop.
Kinda funny,worked my way up from a shop grunt to a 1st class machinist.
I learned math real quick when I could apply it to making money in something that I found fascinating.
Always been a hands on type when it comes to education.
The thing that made the most difference was I was a voracious reader from the 3rd grade up until today.
I read everything I could get my hands on about machining and it paid off.
Later in life I started reading about the stock market and how it worked. Again I had motivation.
School to me was a huge waste of time because I couldnt apply it to everyday life.


Those are awesome stories for both of you. Glad things worked out so well with all your hard work. Most stories that start like this do not have good endings. Good on both of you!!!

I think it can still be done.


I absolutely do as well, just admiring the odds that the 2 of you overcame. That is awesome.


I hate to say it but I think the younger generation are lacking in work ethics.
Before I retired in 2012 we'd get two year machinist wanting top dollar when they didnt know shit and had no understanding of working your way up,it was all about instant gratification.

The foreman would hand them a tough job and a print and say go at it. If you can complete the job in a reasonable amount of time with no help we'll talk.
They failed every time.
In other words the youth of today have an inflated opinion of their worth.
 
I was a very poor student in school, then at 18 I ended up in a job overseas. I excelled and got promoted, the only problem was my dumb ass couldn't write a decent report to save my life. The guy who promoted me took me under his wing and drilled grammar and spelling into my head. Only problem is he was English so sometimes I use that spelling rather than the usual American version. Like "realize" vs "realise".

Anyway, it was one of the best things that could have happened to me. Came back to the States, went to college, got educated, yadda yadda.

Same here.
I hated school and math was my worst subject. Dropped out in the tenth grade and went to work in a machine shop.
Kinda funny,worked my way up from a shop grunt to a 1st class machinist.
I learned math real quick when I could apply it to making money in something that I found fascinating.
Always been a hands on type when it comes to education.
The thing that made the most difference was I was a voracious reader from the 3rd grade up until today.
I read everything I could get my hands on about machining and it paid off.
Later in life I started reading about the stock market and how it worked. Again I had motivation.
School to me was a huge waste of time because I couldnt apply it to everyday life.


Those are awesome stories for both of you. Glad things worked out so well with all your hard work. Most stories that start like this do not have good endings. Good on both of you!!!

I think it can still be done.


I absolutely do as well, just admiring the odds that the 2 of you overcame. That is awesome.


I hate to say it but I think the younger generation are lacking in work ethics.
Before I retired in 2012 we'd get two year machinist wanting top dollar when they didnt know shit and had no understanding of working your way up,it was all about instant gratification.

The foreman would hand them a tough job and a print and say go at it. If you can complete the job in a reasonable amount of time with no help we'll talk.
They failed every time.
In other words the youth of today have an inflated opinion of their worth.
I think that's just kids man, today and yesterday both.
 
Same here.
I hated school and math was my worst subject. Dropped out in the tenth grade and went to work in a machine shop.
Kinda funny,worked my way up from a shop grunt to a 1st class machinist.
I learned math real quick when I could apply it to making money in something that I found fascinating.
Always been a hands on type when it comes to education.
The thing that made the most difference was I was a voracious reader from the 3rd grade up until today.
I read everything I could get my hands on about machining and it paid off.
Later in life I started reading about the stock market and how it worked. Again I had motivation.
School to me was a huge waste of time because I couldnt apply it to everyday life.
Amazing how that works huh?

They need to bring back shop classes that can actually lead to a career.
And I aint talken woodshop. Schools need to teach machining,plumbing,electrical and other blue collar work.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
I loved working with my hands and stumbled into machining purely by accident.
Was into racing BMX as a kid and worked in a lot of bike shops in my youth.
A buddy was quitting his job at the machine shop I mentioned and he put in a good word.
I was hooked the first time I saw a guy running a lathe.
I'm good with my hands as well, but not a machinist. I build dragsters on the weekends, so I visit machine shops fairly often though. I'm working a junkyard project right now. Fitting a pair of M90 superchargers on a 5.2 Dakota, just to see if I can.

Nice!
Looking at putting a Magnuson SC on my Tundra.
Put one on my 98 Tacoma..What a difference!!!
Nice! Yeah, forced induction is definitely the way to go. My understanding is those magnusun kits for the Toyota's will give you a 30% boost in peak HP and a hefty helping of torque too even limited to the boost a stock set up can take.

They say it'll boost the HP from 399 to 550.
Huge gains!! It'll make a 5000 lb truck run 12's. A true Raptor destroyer!
 
Amazing how that works huh?

They need to bring back shop classes that can actually lead to a career.
And I aint talken woodshop. Schools need to teach machining,plumbing,electrical and other blue collar work.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
I loved working with my hands and stumbled into machining purely by accident.
Was into racing BMX as a kid and worked in a lot of bike shops in my youth.
A buddy was quitting his job at the machine shop I mentioned and he put in a good word.
I was hooked the first time I saw a guy running a lathe.
I'm good with my hands as well, but not a machinist. I build dragsters on the weekends, so I visit machine shops fairly often though. I'm working a junkyard project right now. Fitting a pair of M90 superchargers on a 5.2 Dakota, just to see if I can.

Nice!
Looking at putting a Magnuson SC on my Tundra.
Put one on my 98 Tacoma..What a difference!!!
Nice! Yeah, forced induction is definitely the way to go. My understanding is those magnusun kits for the Toyota's will give you a 30% boost in peak HP and a hefty helping of torque too even limited to the boost a stock set up can take.

They say it'll boost the HP from 399 to 550.
Huge gains!! It'll make a 5000 lb truck run 12's. A true Raptor destroyer!
Awesome!

(Raptors are overrated IMHO)
 
Same here.
I hated school and math was my worst subject. Dropped out in the tenth grade and went to work in a machine shop.
Kinda funny,worked my way up from a shop grunt to a 1st class machinist.
I learned math real quick when I could apply it to making money in something that I found fascinating.
Always been a hands on type when it comes to education.
The thing that made the most difference was I was a voracious reader from the 3rd grade up until today.
I read everything I could get my hands on about machining and it paid off.
Later in life I started reading about the stock market and how it worked. Again I had motivation.
School to me was a huge waste of time because I couldnt apply it to everyday life.


Those are awesome stories for both of you. Glad things worked out so well with all your hard work. Most stories that start like this do not have good endings. Good on both of you!!!

I think it can still be done.


I absolutely do as well, just admiring the odds that the 2 of you overcame. That is awesome.


I hate to say it but I think the younger generation are lacking in work ethics.
Before I retired in 2012 we'd get two year machinist wanting top dollar when they didnt know shit and had no understanding of working your way up,it was all about instant gratification.

The foreman would hand them a tough job and a print and say go at it. If you can complete the job in a reasonable amount of time with no help we'll talk.
They failed every time.
In other words the youth of today have an inflated opinion of their worth.
I think that's just kids man, today and yesterday both.

Maybe I'm just looking at it from my view point.
I latched on to the best machinists in the shop and plied them with questions and advice.
But then the kids I ran into after 25 years of machining thought they knew it all and wouldnt take my advice.
I trained a lot of the younger crowd over the years,some were receptive but a lot weren't.
I found out the best way to deal with them was to let them fail on their own.
The one's that came back and asked for help invariably went on to be a decent machinist.
 
They sure didnt when I was in high school. Unless of course you went outside the school system and paid for your education out of pocket. They need to make those kind of classes available in our local school systems.

Not sure where you live, but here in New England regional “Voke” schools are very common. Not every city has one but almost every city participates in at least one regional school.
 
The whole thing was bizarre, childish and full of non-sense. It’s just incredible to me that Trump would actually bring up the size of his inauguration crowd after 2 years. What the absolute fuck?

If that wasn’t enough, he had to bring up Hillary and of course the mindless drones in the audience shouted the “lock her up!” Are you fucking kidding me? They are still talking about Hillary? God I wish they would lock her up so republicans can just shut the fuck up about her. It’s astounding how republicans pretend she is still relevant to anything.

Also, how could any grown adult not realize how ridiculous Trump looks when he hugs the American flag? He could start humping it and his supporters would still go ape shit in applause I guess.
Hillary is still talking about running or not in 2020...instead of what they are serving in the prison cafeteria.

You mock Trump while the Democrats have become the biggest CRIMINAL JOKE and SIMULTANEOUS THREAT to this country possibly in this nation's history.

The last President violated both Constitution and law, aided / financed / armed / protected terrorists, Mexican Drug Cartels, Human Traffickers, and enemy nations like Iran and Russia... Illegally spied on Americans, reporters, the media, US Senators, & USSC Justices ... used the IRS as a weapon against Americans, and set a new record for criminal non-compliance with the FOIA & Federal Records Act....ran his own private drone assassination program, killed US citizens after denying them their right to due process, and allowed Americans to needlessly die at the hands of terrorists he helped take over their own country ... after they had slaughtered 3,000 Americans...

His administration freed enemy leaders in war time to try to keep campaign promises, helped terrorists take over governments of our allies, and ran / runs illegal Sanctuary Cities where they protect violent illegal gangs, and cop killers...

...his administration's Intel & Law Enforcement agency directors engaged in sedititoius conspiracy and treason in attempting to overthrow the newly elected President of the United States.

Democrats protected a proven felon who compromised our national security & sold her loyalty to the US for $100+ million dollars from the Russians ... And the Democrats GAVE this POS their party nomination that she could not win on her own in 2016...even after rigging primaries and cheating in debates.

Since then, Democrats have come out if the proverbial closet to expose who they really are, no more hiding, showing they support:

OPEN BORDERS
IGNORING OUR NATL SOVEREIGNTY
JEOPARDIZING OUR NATL SECURITY
RUNNING ILLEGAL SANCTUARY CITIES
FACILITATING / PROTECTING VOTER FRAUD
ILLEGALS VOTING IN US ELECTIONS
STANDING w/ILLEGALS VS AMERICANS
IGNORING EVIDENCE OF DEM CRIMES
ANTI-SEMITISM, BIGOTRY
FAKE NEWS
HATE
VIOLENT INTOLERANCE
REGISAL TO ACCEPT ELECTION RESULTS
SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACIES / TREASON
COUP D'ETAT
SOCIALISM
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Democrats have literally become a criminal organization that stands for / supports almost everything this nation stands against...

It is mind-blowing what Americans - snowflakes are actually defending ... like allowing children to be born, full term, then having a discussion on whether to keep it or not, and then MURDERING the child ... and daring to call it 'an abortion'...

:wtf:

...and despite all of this, in your indoctrinated hate of the man who defeated Hillary, you rail against President Trump...

...un-f*ing believable....

:rolleyes:
 
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They sure didnt when I was in high school. Unless of course you went outside the school system and paid for your education out of pocket. They need to make those kind of classes available in our local school systems.

Not sure where you live, but here in New England regional “Voke” schools are very common. Not every city has one but almost every city participates in at least one regional school.

Are they part of the school system?
I live in Texas and when I was a kid they only had metal shop,woodshop and and car mechanics.
None of witch gave you an education that would allow you to go out into the workforce without further training.
Hell,I knew by the time I was in eighth grade I wasn't going to college though my Dad said he'd pay for it.
 
Are they part of the school system?
I live in Texas and when I was a kid they only had metal shop,woodshop and and car mechanics.
None of witch gave you an education that would allow you to go out into the workforce without further training.
Hell,I knew by the time I was in eighth grade I wasn't going to college though my Dad said he'd pay for it.

They are paid for by the collective school districts that the kids come from. If Steve different municipalities have access to the school, they all pay into the school.

We’re talking about a totally separate school dedicated to vocational education. The kids typically have their shop classes for 3-4 weeks then academics for 3-4 weeks and alternate throughout the school year.

Often the kids get to try out 2 or 3 different shops at the beginning of their Freshman year, then apply for the one they prefer and one alternate. They’re placed based on their preferences and the aptitude/interest show to the instructors during the exploratory weeks.
 
Are they part of the school system?
I live in Texas and when I was a kid they only had metal shop,woodshop and and car mechanics.
None of witch gave you an education that would allow you to go out into the workforce without further training.
Hell,I knew by the time I was in eighth grade I wasn't going to college though my Dad said he'd pay for it.

They are paid for by the collective school districts that the kids come from. If Steve different municipalities have access to the school, they all pay into the school.

We’re talking about a totally separate school dedicated to vocational education. The kids typically have their shop classes for 3-4 weeks then academics for 3-4 weeks and alternate throughout the school year.

Often the kids get to try out 2 or 3 different shops at the beginning of their Freshman year, then apply for the one they prefer and one alternate. They’re placed based on their preferences and the aptitude/interest show to the instructors during the exploratory weeks.

Sounds like a great program.
But to be honest I probably wouldnt have taken advantage because I was a dumbass as a high schooler.
I didnt realize how I'd fucked away my education until my early twenties.
Looking back if I'd had a lick of sense I would have went to college and got a degree in mechanical engineering.
I dealt with them on a regular basis in my line of work and found that I knew more on the subject than they did from practical experience.
 
LOL...when I first got into political forums I couldnt spell for shit!
Every time I played the wife in scrabble she'd kick my ass,not due to the words being wrong but on the spelling.
I now keep trying to spell words until I get em right,if I cant manage to do that I look em up.
It's improved my spelling dramatically over the years.
My work involved numbers with very little spelling involved.
I was a very poor student in school, then at 18 I ended up in a job overseas. I excelled and got promoted, the only problem was my dumb ass couldn't write a decent report to save my life. The guy who promoted me took me under his wing and drilled grammar and spelling into my head. Only problem is he was English so sometimes I use that spelling rather than the usual American version. Like "realize" vs "realise".

Anyway, it was one of the best things that could have happened to me. Came back to the States, went to college, got educated, yadda yadda.

Same here.
I hated school and math was my worst subject. Dropped out in the tenth grade and went to work in a machine shop.
Kinda funny,worked my way up from a shop grunt to a 1st class machinist.
I learned math real quick when I could apply it to making money in something that I found fascinating.
Always been a hands on type when it comes to education.
The thing that made the most difference was I was a voracious reader from the 3rd grade up until today.
I read everything I could get my hands on about machining and it paid off.
Later in life I started reading about the stock market and how it worked. Again I had motivation.
School to me was a huge waste of time because I couldnt apply it to everyday life.
Amazing how that works huh?

They need to bring back shop classes that can actually lead to a career.
And I aint talken woodshop. Schools need to teach machining,plumbing,electrical and other blue collar work.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
I loved working with my hands and stumbled into machining purely by accident.
Was into racing BMX as a kid and worked in a lot of bike shops in my youth.
A buddy was quitting his job at the machine shop I mentioned and he put in a good word.
I was hooked the first time I saw a guy running a lathe.
I'm good with my hands as well, but not a machinist. I build dragsters on the weekends, so I visit machine shops fairly often though. I'm working a junkyard project right now. Fitting a pair of M90 superchargers on a 5.2 Dakota, just to see if I can.

Are you familiar with Cleetus McFarland on Youtube?
 
I was a very poor student in school, then at 18 I ended up in a job overseas. I excelled and got promoted, the only problem was my dumb ass couldn't write a decent report to save my life. The guy who promoted me took me under his wing and drilled grammar and spelling into my head. Only problem is he was English so sometimes I use that spelling rather than the usual American version. Like "realize" vs "realise".

Anyway, it was one of the best things that could have happened to me. Came back to the States, went to college, got educated, yadda yadda.

Same here.
I hated school and math was my worst subject. Dropped out in the tenth grade and went to work in a machine shop.
Kinda funny,worked my way up from a shop grunt to a 1st class machinist.
I learned math real quick when I could apply it to making money in something that I found fascinating.
Always been a hands on type when it comes to education.
The thing that made the most difference was I was a voracious reader from the 3rd grade up until today.
I read everything I could get my hands on about machining and it paid off.
Later in life I started reading about the stock market and how it worked. Again I had motivation.
School to me was a huge waste of time because I couldnt apply it to everyday life.
Amazing how that works huh?

They need to bring back shop classes that can actually lead to a career.
And I aint talken woodshop. Schools need to teach machining,plumbing,electrical and other blue collar work.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
I loved working with my hands and stumbled into machining purely by accident.
Was into racing BMX as a kid and worked in a lot of bike shops in my youth.
A buddy was quitting his job at the machine shop I mentioned and he put in a good word.
I was hooked the first time I saw a guy running a lathe.
I'm good with my hands as well, but not a machinist. I build dragsters on the weekends, so I visit machine shops fairly often though. I'm working a junkyard project right now. Fitting a pair of M90 superchargers on a 5.2 Dakota, just to see if I can.

Are you familiar with Cleetus McFarland on Youtube?
I can't say that I am.

Should I be?
 
Same here.
I hated school and math was my worst subject. Dropped out in the tenth grade and went to work in a machine shop.
Kinda funny,worked my way up from a shop grunt to a 1st class machinist.
I learned math real quick when I could apply it to making money in something that I found fascinating.
Always been a hands on type when it comes to education.
The thing that made the most difference was I was a voracious reader from the 3rd grade up until today.
I read everything I could get my hands on about machining and it paid off.
Later in life I started reading about the stock market and how it worked. Again I had motivation.
School to me was a huge waste of time because I couldnt apply it to everyday life.
Amazing how that works huh?

They need to bring back shop classes that can actually lead to a career.
And I aint talken woodshop. Schools need to teach machining,plumbing,electrical and other blue collar work.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
I loved working with my hands and stumbled into machining purely by accident.
Was into racing BMX as a kid and worked in a lot of bike shops in my youth.
A buddy was quitting his job at the machine shop I mentioned and he put in a good word.
I was hooked the first time I saw a guy running a lathe.
I'm good with my hands as well, but not a machinist. I build dragsters on the weekends, so I visit machine shops fairly often though. I'm working a junkyard project right now. Fitting a pair of M90 superchargers on a 5.2 Dakota, just to see if I can.

Are you familiar with Cleetus McFarland on Youtube?
I can't say that I am.

Should I be?

Absolutely if you're into fast cars.
His most popular car is Leroy.
He took a wrecked C5 (I think) and stripped all the body panels off it and went to work.
It now has two huge twin turbos and a host of other mods. He recently set the worlds fastest 1/4 mile in a stick shift vet.
He bought it around two years ago and has built the thing until it became a monster.
He just got a new engine from Texas Speed and ran a 7.98.
Really cool to watch him slowly build it up.
 
Amazing how that works huh?

They need to bring back shop classes that can actually lead to a career.
And I aint talken woodshop. Schools need to teach machining,plumbing,electrical and other blue collar work.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
I loved working with my hands and stumbled into machining purely by accident.
Was into racing BMX as a kid and worked in a lot of bike shops in my youth.
A buddy was quitting his job at the machine shop I mentioned and he put in a good word.
I was hooked the first time I saw a guy running a lathe.
I'm good with my hands as well, but not a machinist. I build dragsters on the weekends, so I visit machine shops fairly often though. I'm working a junkyard project right now. Fitting a pair of M90 superchargers on a 5.2 Dakota, just to see if I can.

Are you familiar with Cleetus McFarland on Youtube?
I can't say that I am.

Should I be?

Absolutely if you're into fast cars.
His most popular car is Leroy.
He took a wrecked C5 (I think) and stripped all the body panels off it and went to work.
It now has two huge twin turbos and a host of other mods. He recently set the worlds fastest 1/4 mile in a stick shift vet.
He bought it around two years ago and has built the thing until it became a monster.
He just got a new engine from Texas Speed and ran a 7.98.
Really cool to watch him slowly build it up.
Thanks, I'll have to look him up.
 

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