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Israel attacks civilians

Of course. When did an Arabian ever lose a fight? They don't declare war because they say they are in perpetual war with Israel.

Look at the last ones in Gaza and Lebanon. Both Hezbollah and Hamas have said they won.

They try to negotiate with Jews and having intermediaries between them and the Jews? Sorry, it will not cut any ice with Israel.

There are no intermediaries in any of the peace talks. It is Israel and the US on one side talking to Abbas, a US paid puppet on the other.

Israel will not talk with the elected government.
 
Of course. When did an Arabian ever lose a fight? They don't declare war because they say they are in perpetual war with Israel.

Look at the last ones in Gaza and Lebanon. Both Hezbollah and Hamas have said they won.

They try to negotiate with Jews and having intermediaries between them and the Jews? Sorry, it will not cut any ice with Israel.

There are no intermediaries in any of the peace talks. It is Israel and the US on one side talking to Abbas, a US paid puppet on the other.

Israel will not talk with the elected government.

Not so, Abbas has stopped talks unless the Israeli stop building in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is entirely Israeli until the negotiations change the current realities.

There is no elected government. Both Fatah and Hamas are illegitimate. This is Hamas's point to say Abbas is illegitimate. In other words, Hamas delegitimizes Abbas at the current moment. These ones can not even get along themselves. Pitiful.
 
Of course. When did an Arabian ever lose a fight? They don't declare war because they say they are in perpetual war with Israel.

Look at the last ones in Gaza and Lebanon. Both Hezbollah and Hamas have said they won.

They try to negotiate with Jews and having intermediaries between them and the Jews? Sorry, it will not cut any ice with Israel.

There are no intermediaries in any of the peace talks. It is Israel and the US on one side talking to Abbas, a US paid puppet on the other.

Israel will not talk with the elected government.

Not so, Abbas has stopped talks unless the Israeli stop building in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is entirely Israeli until the negotiations change the current realities.

There is no elected government. Both Fatah and Hamas are illegitimate. This is Hamas's point to say Abbas is illegitimate. In other words, Hamas legitimizes Abbas at the current moment. These ones can not even get along themselves.
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It doesn't matter what Abbas does. Israel does what it wants whether Abbas talks or not.

BTW, Abbas's term in office expired in Jan, 2009.
 
There are no intermediaries in any of the peace talks. It is Israel and the US on one side talking to Abbas, a US paid puppet on the other.

Israel will not talk with the elected government.

Not so, Abbas has stopped talks unless the Israeli stop building in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is entirely Israeli until the negotiations change the current realities.

There is no elected government. Both Fatah and Hamas are illegitimate. This is Hamas's point to say Abbas is illegitimate. In other words, Hamas legitimizes Abbas at the current moment. These ones can not even get along themselves.
Clicky

It doesn't matter what Abbas does. Israel does what it wants whether Abbas talks or not.


BTW, Abbas's term in office expired in Jan, 2009.
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Five wells and several sheds were destroyed by Israeli Civil Administration officials on Tuesday, in a small Bedouin encampment in the south Hebron hills, locals said.

The area, known as Arab Al-Ka’abna, sits between the villages of At-Tuwani and Umm Lasafa, in “Area C,” a zone under total Israeli military and civil control.

Bedouins living in the area survive by raising livestock, Hathalin explained, adding that with no access to water, the farmers would be forced to take their flocks and produce elsewhere, “making our lands an easy target for settlers,” he said.

Not connected to any other water supply, Hathalin said the wells sustained not only the livestock but also the inhabitants of the area.

Israeli forces demolish Bedouin community wells | JERUSALEMITES
 
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Just a bump of relevant information.

Concise Timeline of Recent Israeli-Palestinian History


Nov 2, 1917 British issued the Balfour Declaration, viewed by Jews and Arabs as promising a “National Home” for the Jews in Palestine.
1936-1939 Arab Revolt led by Haj Amin Al-Husseini. Over 5,000 Arabs were killed according to some sources, mostly by British. Several hundred Jews were killed by Arabs. Husseini fled to Iraq and then to Nazi Germany. May 15, 1948 Israel War of Independence (1948 War). Declaration of Israel as the Jewish State; British leave Palestine; Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia declared war on Israel. Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian invasion began. See 1948 Israel War of Independence (1948 Arab-Israeli war) Timeline (Chronology) and Israel War of Independence
April 3, 1949 Armistice - Israel and Arab states agree to armistice. Israel gained about 50% more territory than was originally allotted to it by the UN Partition Plan.
Oct. 29, 1956
Suez Campaign. In retaliation for a series of escalating border raids as well as the closure of the straits of Tiran and Suez canal to Israeli shipping, and to prevent Egyptian use of newly acquired Soviet arms in a war, Israel invades the Sinai peninsula and occupies it for several months, with French and British collaboration.
May, 1964
PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) founded with the aim of destroying Israel. The Palestinian National Charter (1968) officially called for liquidation of Israel.
May, 1967 Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser closes the straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping and dismisses UN peacekeeping force. Negotiations with US to reopen the Straits of Tiran fail. June 5-10,1967 6-day war. Israel destroys the Egyptian air force on the ground, conquers and occupies Sinai and Gaza, then conquers the West Bank from Jordan, and Golan Heights from Syria. UN resolution 242 called for Israeli withdrawal, establishment of peace. 1967 Six Day War Timeline (chronology)
Oct. 6, 1973
Yom Kippur War (October War). In a surprise attack on the Jewish day of atonement, Egypt retook the Suez canal and a narrow zone on the other side. Syria reconquered the Golan Heights. Following massive US and Soviet resupplying of the sides, Israel succeeded in pushing back the Syrians and threatening Damascus. In Sinai, the IDF crossed the Suez Canal and cut off the Egyptian Third Army.
March 26, 1979
Peace treaty signed between Egypt and Israel. June 7, 1981 Israel destroys Iraqi Osirak nuclear reactor in daring raid. Oct. 6, 1981 Egyptian President Anwar Sadat is assassinated while on the reviewing stand of a victory parade.
June 6
, 1982 Massive Israeli invasion of Lebanon to fight PLO.
Sept. 13, 1993
Oslo Declaration of Principles - Israel and PLO agree to mutual recognition. Sept 28,
1995
Oslo Interim Agreement signed. Palestinian Authority to be established. Nov. 4, 1995 Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin assassinated by right-wing Israeli fanatic Yigal Amir. Rabin is replaced by Shimon Peres
June, 1996
Right-Wing Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu elected Prime Minister in Israel, replacing Shimon Peres.
Sept, 1996
"Al-Aksa tunnel riots - Arab sources spread the false rumor that a gate opened in an underground tunnel tourist attraction by the Israeli government, endangered the foundations of the Al-Aqsa mosque. This caused several days of rioting and numerous casualties.
Jan 18, 1997
Israel and Palestinians reach agreement on Israeli redeployment in the West-Bank city of Hebron
Oct. 1998 Wye River Plantation talks result in an agreement for Israeli redeployment and release of political prisoners and renewed Palestinian commitment to correct its violations of the Oslo accords including excess police force, illegal arms and incitement in public media and education.
May 17, 1999
Israel elects Labor party leader and Former General Ehud Barak as Prime Minister in a landslide. Barak promises rapid progress toward peace.
March, 2000
Israeli-Syrian peace negotiations fail when Hafez Assad rejects an Israeli offer relayed by US President Clinton in Geneva.
Sept. 28, 2000 Palestinians initiated riots after Israeli opposition leader Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount, which is also the location of the Haram as Sharif holy to Muslims. Start of Second Intifada See Second Intifada Timeline Second Intifada
Feb 6, 2001 Right-wing Likud leader Ariel Sharon elected Prime Minister in Israel replacing Ehud Barak and promising "peace and security."
Sept. 11, 2001 Terror attacks on World Trade Center in NYC and the Pentagon carried out by fanatic Islamic Al-Qaida group headed by Osama Bin Laden initiate US war on terror. Israel and Palestinians agree to a cease fire, but it is not implemented.
March-April 2002
Israel conducts operation Defensive Shield in the West Bank, following a large number of Palestinian suicide attacks on civilian targets. Saudi peace initiative adopted at Beirut summit. Jan 28, 2003 Elections in Israel give wide margin (40 seats) to right wing Likud party, returning PM Ariel Sharon for another term.
March 19,2003
US begins invasion of Iraq by a strike against a building where Saddam Hussein and other leaders are meeting. Baghdad falls, April 9.
July 9, 2004
International court of Justice (ICJ) rules that the Israeli security barrier violates international law and must be torn down.
Nov 11, 2004
Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat dies.
Jan 9, 2005
Mahmoud Abbas elected President of the Palestinian National Authority.
Jan 10, 2005 Ariel Sharon forms unity government with Labor and United Torah Judaism parties in Israel.
April 2005
Ariel Sharon visits US President George Bush at his Texas ranch. Syrian Army leaves Lebanon, officially ending Syrian occupation.
May 26, 2005 Mahmud Abbas visits US President George Bush at the White House, an important symbolic gesture signaling US backing for Abbas and Palestinian aspirations. Israel releases 400 Palestinian prisoners including some with blood on their hands. Britain confirms "low level" negotiations with Hamas.
June, 2005 Violence flares in Gaza. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice visits Palestinian and Israeli leaders to ensure coordination of Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. Israeli PM Ariel Sharon and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas meet in Jerusalem June 21. Sharon announces that Palestinians have promised to coordinate regarding Gaza withdrawal. PM Abbas postpones Palestinian legislative elections in order to change the election law, amidst growing concern that Hamas will trounce Abbas's Fatah party in the elections. Lebanese elections give a decisive majority to the opposition to Syria, led by Saad Hariri, son of slain leader Rafiq Hariri. Aug. 15, 2005 Disengagement - Israeli evacuation of Gaza settlements and four West Bank settlements began on August 15 and was completed August 24.

And it's been Palestinian fanaticism ever since...
 
The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. None of them, as a religion, claim exclusive rights to Palestine. As a diverse group they do have exclusive rights to Palestine. They are the indigenous population. An important fact is that none of them, including the Jews, wanted a foreign takeover of their country.

This is not an Arab or Muslim versus Jew conflict. It is a Palestinians versus foreigners conflict. The Palestinians be they Muslims, Christians, or Jews have the legal and moral high ground. Palestine is their country. It does not belong to foreigners.
 
The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. None of them, as a religion, claim exclusive rights to Palestine. As a diverse group they do have exclusive rights to Palestine. They are the indigenous population. An important fact is that none of them, including the Jews, wanted a foreign takeover of their country.

This is not an Arab or Muslim versus Jew conflict. It is a Palestinians versus foreigners conflict. The Palestinians be they Muslims, Christians, or Jews have the legal and moral high ground. Palestine is their country. It does not belong to foreigners.

It is a fait acompli. Done deal. Either the whole middle east erupts or Israel is left alone.

There are no negotiations on that front. Your front.
 
The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. None of them, as a religion, claim exclusive rights to Palestine. As a diverse group they do have exclusive rights to Palestine. They are the indigenous population. An important fact is that none of them, including the Jews, wanted a foreign takeover of their country.

This is not an Arab or Muslim versus Jew conflict. It is a Palestinians versus foreigners conflict. The Palestinians be they Muslims, Christians, or Jews have the legal and moral high ground. Palestine is their country. It does not belong to foreigners.

It is a fait acompli. Done deal. Either the whole middle east erupts or Israel is left alone.

There are no negotiations on that front. Your front.

I posted that same thing many times, Israel is there and is always going to be there Suck it up and move on PFT
 
The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. None of them, as a religion, claim exclusive rights to Palestine. As a diverse group they do have exclusive rights to Palestine. They are the indigenous population. An important fact is that none of them, including the Jews, wanted a foreign takeover of their country.

This is not an Arab or Muslim versus Jew conflict. It is a Palestinians versus foreigners conflict. The Palestinians be they Muslims, Christians, or Jews have the legal and moral high ground. Palestine is their country. It does not belong to foreigners.

It is a fait acompli. Done deal. Either the whole middle east erupts or Israel is left alone.

There are no negotiations on that front. Your front.

Israel wishes that were true. The legitimacy of Palestine is waxing in the eyes of the world community while the legitimacy of Israel is waning.
 
Possibly in your mind. You can only post words of your wishes as can I.

The true future is left to the the hands of our chosen lords, or chance if you are not one of belief.

Many beliefs have waned whilst the house of Israel remains. There have always been those who tried to stop the house of Israel to gain back Israel.

So, now we have it back, as our book said we would, and we ready for the true fight. We worked quite hard to get it and our protections. So I leave the future to the future.

Then we will see what we will see.

The point is that Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. None of them, as a religion, claim exclusive rights to Palestine. As a diverse group they do have exclusive rights to Palestine. They are the indigenous population. An important fact is that none of them, including the Jews, wanted a foreign takeover of their country.

This is not an Arab or Muslim versus Jew conflict. It is a Palestinians versus foreigners conflict. The Palestinians be they Muslims, Christians, or Jews have the legal and moral high ground. Palestine is their country. It does not belong to foreigners.

It is a fait acompli. Done deal. Either the whole middle east erupts or Israel is left alone.

There are no negotiations on that front. Your front.

Israel wishes that were true. The legitimacy of Palestine is waxing in the eyes of the world community while the legitimacy of Israel is waning.
 

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