Israel attacks civilians

[P F Tinmore]

99% of Rabs are Muzzies, stupid little boy. I've instructed you on this, as well, previously.

Yes you have. You constantly talk but never prove.

You never have even one reputational point even after 2 years of mindless drivel

WOW! Now there is some proof.

 

[JStone]

Yes you have. You constantly talk but never prove.

You never have even one reputational point even after 2 years of mindless drivel

WOW! Now there is some proof.

You have zero credibility after 2 years of incessantly posting drivel. You're a failure even in an internet chat room.

Sucks being Tinhead.

 

[docmauser1]

You know Warrior that NO Israeli,Prime Minister over the past 4 years will ever stop off or visit Belgium because they will be arrested as WAR CRIMINALS and sent to the The Hague to stand trial.

The belgies wised up since and amended their idiotic grandstanding, of course.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are all Palestinians Arabs?

What about the Palestinian Christians? Are they Arabs?

What about the Palestinian Jews? Are they Arabs?

Palestinians by definition are Arabs, having originated from Arabia and Arabic their primary language. Jews do not refer to themselves as Palestinians--They are Jews and Israelis.

I've instructed you on this matter several times. Are you retarded or just stupid?

You had previously posted a different definition.

Israel attacks civilians 09-14-2011 01:44 AM JStone misrepresenting me

A "Palestinian" can mean a person who is born in the geographical area known prior to 1918 as "Palestine", or a former citizen of the British Mandate territory called Palestine, or an institution related to either of these. Using this definition, both Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews were called "Palestinians".

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4007964-post1250.html

 

[JStone]

Palestinians by definition are Arabs, having originated from Arabia and Arabic their primary language. Jews do not refer to themselves as Palestinians--They are Jews and Israelis.

I've instructed you on this matter several times. Are you retarded or just stupid?

You had previously posted a different definition.

Israel attacks civilians 09-14-2011 01:44 AM JStone misrepresenting me

A "Palestinian" can mean a person who is born in the geographical area known prior to 1918 as "Palestine", or a former citizen of the British Mandate territory called Palestine, or an institution related to either of these. Using this definition, both Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews were called "Palestinians".

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4007964-post1250.html

Rashid Khalidi, Professor of Middle East history, Columbia University, professor of Middle East history and director of the Center for International Studies at the University of Chicago, Advisor to several "Palestinian" groups...

There is a relatively recent tradition which argues that Palestinian nationalism has deep historical roots. As with other national movements, extreme advocates of this view anachronistically read back into the history of Palestine over the past few centuries a nationalist consciousness and identity that are in fact relatively modern. Among the manifestations of this outlook are a predilection for seeing in peoples such as the Canaanites, Jebusites and Philistines the lineal ancestors of the modern Palestinians.

Middle East Historian and Scholar Bernard Lewis...

The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria

The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1948]

 

[P F Tinmore]

You had previously posted a different definition.

A "Palestinian" can mean a person who is born in the geographical area known prior to 1918 as "Palestine", or a former citizen of the British Mandate territory called Palestine, or an institution related to either of these. Using this definition, both Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews were called "Palestinians".

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4007964-post1250.html

Rashid Khalidi, Professor of Middle East history, Columbia University, professor of Middle East history and director of the Center for International Studies at the University of Chicago, Advisor to several "Palestinian" groups...

There is a relatively recent tradition which argues that Palestinian nationalism has deep historical roots. As with other national movements, extreme advocates of this view anachronistically read back into the history of Palestine over the past few centuries a nationalist consciousness and identity that are in fact relatively modern. Among the manifestations of this outlook are a predilection for seeing in peoples such as the Canaanites, Jebusites and Philistines the lineal ancestors of the modern Palestinians.

Middle East Historian and Scholar Bernard Lewis...

The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria

The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1948]

Of course none of that negates the right of the native population to create their own independent state free of foreign intervention.

 

[JStone]

A "Palestinian" can mean a person who is born in the geographical area known prior to 1918 as "Palestine", or a former citizen of the British Mandate territory called Palestine, or an institution related to either of these. Using this definition, both Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews were called "Palestinians".

http://www.usmessageboard.com/4007964-post1250.html

Rashid Khalidi, Professor of Middle East history, Columbia University, professor of Middle East history and director of the Center for International Studies at the University of Chicago, Advisor to several "Palestinian" groups...


Middle East Historian and Scholar Bernard Lewis...

The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria

The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1948]

Of course none of that negates the right of the native population to create their own independent state free of foreign intervention.

Jews are the native population of Israel dating back 3000 years verified by the archaeological record.

Can you provide an archaeological record of a Palestinian civilization in Israel? No, I didn't think so.

PBS Nova...

In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

In 1900 the Jews were only a few percent of the people in Palestine. And you are saying that none of the others have any history or rights to their homeland.

 

[JStone]

In 1900 the Jews were only a few percent of the people in Palestine. And you are saying that none of the others have any history or rights to their homeland.

Jews have prior possession of Israel dating back 3000 years. Arabia is the homeland of the Pallies, who are just Arabs.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In 1900 the Jews were only a few percent of the people in Palestine. And you are saying that none of the others have any history or rights to their homeland.

Jews have prior possession of Israel dating back 3000 years. Arabia is the homeland of the Pallies, who are just Arabs.

There were always other people there besides the Jews. And the Jews were not always a major group. What do you think gives them exclusive rights over all the others?

 

[JStone]

In 1900 the Jews were only a few percent of the people in Palestine. And you are saying that none of the others have any history or rights to their homeland.

Jews have prior possession of Israel dating back 3000 years. Arabia is the homeland of the Pallies, who are just Arabs.

There were always other people there besides the Jews.

The Jewish nation established sovereignty over Israel 3000 years ago. No other people established nations in Israel.

Eminent French Archaeologist and Near East historian Andre Lemaire, Directeur d'etudes at the Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, History and Philology Section of the Sorbonne, Specialist in West Semitic epigraphy

King David's reign represents a glorious achievement. Seizing the opportunity occasioned by the weakness of Assyria and Egypt, a strong and brilliant personality, joined the houses of Israel and Judah, made Jerusalem the capital of both and used this unfication as the basis of his dominion. With this favorable international situation, David created for a time one of the most important powers in the ancient Near East.

Under Kings David and Solomon, Israel was transformed from a small territory into a larger united kingdom with vassal states subject to it. As the monarchy assumed an international role, other powers to the ancient Near East, such as Phoenicia and Egypt, were required to give due regard to Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jews have prior possession of Israel dating back 3000 years. Arabia is the homeland of the Pallies, who are just Arabs.

There were always other people there besides the Jews.

The Jewish nation established sovereignty over Israel 3000 years ago. No other people established nations in Israel.

Eminent French Archaeologist and Near East historian Andre Lemaire, Directeur d'etudes at the Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, History and Philology Section of the Sorbonne, Specialist in West Semitic epigraphy

King David's reign represents a glorious achievement. Seizing the opportunity occasioned by the weakness of Assyria and Egypt, a strong and brilliant personality, joined the houses of Israel and Judah, made Jerusalem the capital of both and used this unfication as the basis of his dominion. With this favorable international situation, David created for a time one of the most important powers in the ancient Near East.

Under Kings David and Solomon, Israel was transformed from a small territory into a larger united kingdom with vassal states subject to it. As the monarchy assumed an international role, other powers to the ancient Near East, such as Phoenicia and Egypt, were required to give due regard to Israel.

That doesn't mean squat. There were always other people there with the same rights as anyone else.

 

[JStone]

There were always other people there besides the Jews.

The Jewish nation established sovereignty over Israel 3000 years ago. No other people established nations in Israel.

Eminent French Archaeologist and Near East historian Andre Lemaire, Directeur d'etudes at the Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, History and Philology Section of the Sorbonne, Specialist in West Semitic epigraphy

King David's reign represents a glorious achievement. Seizing the opportunity occasioned by the weakness of Assyria and Egypt, a strong and brilliant personality, joined the houses of Israel and Judah, made Jerusalem the capital of both and used this unfication as the basis of his dominion. With this favorable international situation, David created for a time one of the most important powers in the ancient Near East.

Under Kings David and Solomon, Israel was transformed from a small territory into a larger united kingdom with vassal states subject to it. As the monarchy assumed an international role, other powers to the ancient Near East, such as Phoenicia and Egypt, were required to give due regard to Israel.

That doesn't mean squat.

It means Jews have prior possession of Israel and own Israel.

There were always other people there with the same rights as anyone else.

No other people, except Jews, established a nation in Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jewish nation established sovereignty over Israel 3000 years ago. No other people established nations in Israel.

Eminent French Archaeologist and Near East historian Andre Lemaire, Directeur d'etudes at the Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, History and Philology Section of the Sorbonne, Specialist in West Semitic epigraphy

It means Jews have prior possession of Israel and own Israel.

There were always other people there with the same rights as anyone else.

No other people, except Jews, established a nation in Israel.

But where is Israel? It has no land and has no borders.

 

[JStone]

It means Jews have prior possession of Israel and own Israel.



No other people, except Jews, established a nation in Israel.

But where is Israel? It has no land and has no borders.

Same Israel today as 3000 years ago, dink. Same Mediterranean to the west. Same Jordan River to the East. Same Lebanon to the north. Same Negev to the south.

Israel is a sovereign state and the only state in the world endorsed by both the League of Nations and the UN. America has endorsements from neither.

Deal with it and move on with your failed life.

 

[P F Tinmore]

But where is Israel? It has no land and has no borders.

Same Israel today as 3000 years ago, dink. Same Mediterranean to the west. Same Jordan River to the East. Same Lebanon to the north. Same Negev to the south.

Israel is a sovereign state and the only state in the world endorsed by both the League of Nations and the UN. America has endorsements from neither.

Deal with it and move on with your failed life.

OK, but those have been Palestine's borders since 1922 and they have not changed.

 

[JStone]

Same Israel today as 3000 years ago, dink. Same Mediterranean to the west. Same Jordan River to the East. Same Lebanon to the north. Same Negev to the south.

Israel is a sovereign state and the only state in the world endorsed by both the League of Nations and the UN. America has endorsements from neither.

Deal with it and move on with your failed life.

OK, but those have been Palestine's borders since 1922 and they have not changed.

Israel, not Palestine. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Israel, 2000 times in the Bible.

Israel's borders are the same in 1000 BCE as in 1922 CE. The League of Nations' borders for the Jewish National Home are from the Galilee to the Negev, from the Jordan to the Med. Sea.

I've instructed you on this before. Are you mentally impaired or just stupid?

 

[P F Tinmore]

OK, but those have been Palestine's borders since 1922 and they have not changed.

Israel, not Palestine. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Israel, 2000 times in the Bible.

Israel's borders are the same in 1000 BCE as in 1922 CE. The League of Nations' borders for the Jewish National Home are from the Galilee to the Negev, from the Jordan to the Med. Sea.

I've instructed you on this before. Are you mentally impaired or just stupid?

There is no USA in the Bible either but here we are.

 

[JStone]

Israel, not Palestine. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Israel, 2000 times in the Bible.

Israel's borders are the same in 1000 BCE as in 1922 CE. The League of Nations' borders for the Jewish National Home are from the Galilee to the Negev, from the Jordan to the Med. Sea.

I've instructed you on this before. Are you mentally impaired or just stupid?

There is no USA in the Bible either but here we are.

The USA did not exist 3000 years ago, dink. Israel did. Palestine, not so much, which is why it is not in the Bible

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no USA in the Bible either but here we are.

The USA did not exist 3000 years ago, dink. Israel did. Palestine, not so much, which is why it is not in the Bible

Israel did

Past tense. The new Israel is a fake.