Israel defends itself?

[Mustang]

And what does climate change have to do with with your thread, exactly?

Non Sequitur.

You're the one who brought up lala land.

However, to answer your question, there's nothing loopier than denying the effect of increasing greenhouse gases on a planet that's only warm in the first place because of greenhouse gases. Even that nutcase, Mark Levin, readily acknowledges that the Earth is only warm BECAUSE of gases like CO2. So, don't ask me how he goes from that admission to denying that increasing CO2 could lead to even more heat.

Aside from the simple scientific reality of how greenhouses gases interact with the Earth's environment, the idea that tens of thousands of scientists would participate in a massive conspiracy is laughable in and of itself. That's lala territory if there ever was such a place.

No, AmericanFirst brought up lala land. You brought up climate change. I told you this thread was going bye bye. Nice how you toasted your own thread by bringing up a completely irrelevant argument.

Mea culpa at confusing you with AF. But that doesn't change the merits of the example.

 

[Mustang]

Besides, what was this?

When a militarily far more powerful foe launches a military assault on a weaker opponent in the name of self-defense, it better be careful regarding its targets and the scale of its assault, or it's going to look like plain old brutality.

So tell me, who is this 'weaker opponent' you are referring to?

Do the Palestinians have an Air Force with jets and attack helicopters? How about a Navy? Tanks?

 

[TemplarKormac]

And what does climate change have to do with with your thread, exactly?

Non Sequitur.

I think it can also be classified as a red herring.

Yes, the cycle of the liberal is that predictable.

Funny how the puppets go right along with the change in terminology isn't it? Climate change. I do not think he got the memo. It is now being called climate disruption, since man made global warming clearly did not make sense, and climate change did not imply human activity enough.

You guys sure do love your conspiracy theories, don't you?

Does this look like a conspiracy theory to you?

You're spending a lot of time avoiding your thread now.

 

[Theowl32]

Besides, what was this?

When a militarily far more powerful foe launches a military assault on a weaker opponent in the name of self-defense, it better be careful regarding its targets and the scale of its assault, or it's going to look like plain old brutality.

So tell me, who is this 'weaker opponent' you are referring to?

Do the Palestinians have an Air Force with jets and attack helicopters? How about a Navy? Tanks?

No, but Israel does, which only further proves who is actually being and has always been restrained.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You're the one who brought up lala land.

However, to answer your question, there's nothing loopier than denying the effect of increasing greenhouse gases on a planet that's only warm in the first place because of greenhouse gases. Even that nutcase, Mark Levin, readily acknowledges that the Earth is only warm BECAUSE of gases like CO2. So, don't ask me how he goes from that admission to denying that increasing CO2 could lead to even more heat.

Aside from the simple scientific reality of how greenhouses gases interact with the Earth's environment, the idea that tens of thousands of scientists would participate in a massive conspiracy is laughable in and of itself. That's lala territory if there ever was such a place.

No, AmericanFirst brought up lala land. You brought up climate change. I told you this thread was going bye bye. Nice how you toasted your own thread by bringing up a completely irrelevant argument.

Mea culpa at confusing you with AF. But that doesn't change the merits of the example.

Your example is a red herring.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Besides, what was this?



So tell me, who is this 'weaker opponent' you are referring to?

Do the Palestinians have an Air Force with jets and attack helicopters? How about a Navy? Tanks?

No, but Israel does, which only further proves who is actually being and has always been restrained.

Restrained in what? Not completely annihilating the Palestinian people whose land the Israelis are stealing?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Answer my question.

Do you have any idea of whom you are defending? Hamas uses human shields. Those civilian casualties were human shields. The IDF is not some twisted form of the Shutzstaffel who goes out at night to brutally execute Gazans just because they are Gazans.

It's a city. A crowded city.

 

[Theowl32]

Do the Palestinians have an Air Force with jets and attack helicopters? How about a Navy? Tanks?

No, but Israel does, which only further proves who is actually being and has always been restrained.

Restrained in what? Not completely annihilating the Palestinian people whose land the Israelis are stealing?

The land the Israelis are stealing?

****Left wing hippy anti-semite lie propaganda alert!!!*****

 

[NYcarbineer]

No. Why would you think those are remotely similar?

Because they are exactly the same.

They arent remotely similar. ONlyan idiot wouldnt be able to distinguish them. Then again...

So the Israelis blow up a neighborhood because they think there are a couple SUSPECTS there and that's okay.

The Palestinians blow up a bus with a couple Israeli soldiers among the passengers and that's not okay.

wtf....

 

[NYcarbineer]

No, but Israel does, which only further proves who is actually being and has always been restrained.

Restrained in what? Not completely annihilating the Palestinian people whose land the Israelis are stealing?

The land the Israelis are stealing?

****Left wing hippy anti-semite lie propaganda alert!!!*****

For one thing, the UN has ruled that the settlements are in effect Israelis stealing land.

Oh, and before you go off on the UN, remember it was the UN that put Israel there in the first place.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Please, remember what Zone you are in.

 

[Erand7899]

Besides, what was this?

When a militarily far more powerful foe launches a military assault on a weaker opponent in the name of self-defense, it better be careful regarding its targets and the scale of its assault, or it's going to look like plain old brutality.

So tell me, who is this 'weaker opponent' you are referring to?

Do the Palestinians have an Air Force with jets and attack helicopters? How about a Navy? Tanks?

Warfare is not a game. It is a deadly means of exerting foreign policy, and the concept of fairness in warfare, is so inane that it is beyond belief. The Israeli's do not want rockets fired at their citizens, and will do what they consider necessary to make the Palestinians stop shooting them at Israel.

Hamas is doing everything it can to ensure that the body count is high, because they believe that will cause the international community to feel sorry for them, and put pressure on Israel to stop the assualt.

 

[georgephillip]

The Dementedness Destroying Israel

By William A. Cook
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39143.htm

The PR campaign Livni had to resort to cannot cover the reality of the demented that have voices in the Knesset, in the rants of right wing Rabbis, or in the gangs that control the streets of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Nor can the New York Times reporters carry on as they have and here described by Blumenthal:

Jodi Rudoren and Isabel Kershner and the rest of the reporters at the New York Times Jerusalem bureau actually have to devote endless stores of energy to avoid reporting on all of the outrages unfolding all around them. Instead of reporting on the Prawer Plan to ethnically cleanse Bedouin citizens of Israel, for example, or the anti-African race riots in Tel Aviv—pivotal events in the history of the state of Israel—Rudoren covers a beauty contest for Holocaust survivors or takes to Facebook to complain about how she missed her spinning class but made up for it by scaling the steps of a building in Gaza destroyed by Israeli bombing. And when Kershner covers the national campaign to expel non-Jewish Africans, she focuses the story on the liberal Israelis and their anguished souls, rather than on the Africans who are being rounded up and placed in camps for the crime of not being Jewish. Just imagine if they went out and covered what was actually happening on the ground and clinically detailed the logic and planning behind it.

Even more ironic of course is the recent need for the Washington Post to run a story from Tel Aviv by William Booth, Jerusalem bureau chief, about the killing of four young boys playing on the beach, killed by missile fire from a ship off the coast. Reporters in the sea side beach hotel witnessed the carnage and grasped its implications as destructive to the Israeli contention of controlled intervention. How could the paper not report this incident?

We could smell the charge. I wondered: Did Hamas just fire a rocket? But it was the sound of an incoming round. We saw a small fisherman’s shack on the quay, churning with gray smoke.

Then we saw a gang of kids running from the shack, down the breakwater and onto the sand, hurtling toward al-Deira. A couple of waiters, the cook and a few journalists started waving at them. Run here! Then a second strike landed right behind them.

The staff were yelling, “They’re hurt!”

A half-dozen kids made it to the hotel. A young man also reached safety and fainted. He was bleeding from the abdomen. He was scooped up and carried to a taxi by a big, friendly bear of a bellman, room cleaner and night watchman named Mahmoud Abu Zbaidah.

Israel as a state embodies the weaknesses of all states over the centuries as it contains within it the infection of its own demise. Confidence nourishes it for a time, arrogance becomes its mantra, expectation of immortality feeds its greed and its lust for on-going power, and in its glory it forgets that others witness and others suffer the bloated ferociousness of its beliefs in its own “exceptionalism,” its ordained purpose in its G-d’s anointment of His chosen. But that G-d is their invention, a G-d of war according to their own book of Exodus, designed for another century when competing tribes roamed the middle east each with its own god, and they in time defeated the G-d of war forcing His chosen to roam the earth.

The IDF murder of the four Palestinian cousins last Wednesday (7/16/14) happened in front of a hotel filled with western journalists; that's the only reason we're discussing the incident here. Heroic Jews fired two shells thirty seconds apart from one of their naval vessels. The first shell took out a shed on the pier, killing one Palestinian. The survivors ran for their lives for as long as it took the heroic Jews to reload and re-target, killing the remaining three teens. This is business as usual in Gaza, and it won't end until Israel's illegal occupation of Gaza is lifted. Slowly, the eyes of the world are opening to Israel's ethnic cleansing in Palestine.

 

[Lakhota]

Do righties actually know what "anti-Semite" really means? For starters - Arabs are also Semites. So, guess what anti-Semite or anti-Semitism or anti-Semitic means. It applies equally to peoples originating in southwestern Asia - including Arabs and Jews.

 

[Lakhota]

The Myth of Anti-Semitism

There is no label that strikes more fear into the hearts of political figures, journalists and the general public than “Anti-Semitism.” To be labeled an “anti-Semite” can mean the end of a career, the failure of a business or being shunned by friends and colleagues.

“Anti-Semitism” is a term that was coined in Europe during the latter half of the nineteenth century. Prominent Jewish scholars used it to characterize the emerging theories that “Semitic” races were inferior to “Aryan” races. Despite the fact that Arabs are Semitic, the term is now exclusively understood to mean “prejudiced against or hostile toward Jews,” according to all major dictionaries.

A similar phenomenon occurred with the word “holocaust,” referring to the period of Nazi rule in Germany from 1933 to 1945 during which Russians, gypsies, Jews, homosexuals, political opponents of the regime and prisoners of war were systematically executed. Today, visitors to Auschwitz, one of the many concentration camps built throughout Nazi-occupied Europe, find little tribute to any group other than Jews; Israeli flags litter the grounds and signs are written in Hebrew. “Holocaust” is now exclusively understood as Jewish suffering.

Refusal to recognize or support Israel has nothing to do with being “prejudiced against or hostile toward Jews” and everything to do with rejecting occupation, oppression and the myriad war crimes carried out by the Zionist state.

MUCH MORE: The Myth of Anti-Semitism | The Ugly Truth

The words anti-Semitic and holocaust are not exclusive to Jews - but they seem to think so.

 

[georgephillip]

I think it can also be classified as a red herring.

Yes, the cycle of the liberal is that predictable.

Funny how the puppets go right along with the change in terminology isn't it? Climate change. I do not think he got the memo. It is now being called climate disruption, since man made global warming clearly did not make sense, and climate change did not imply human activity enough.

You guys sure do love your conspiracy theories, don't you?

Does this look like a conspiracy theory to you?

You're spending a lot of time avoiding your thread now.

Repent!

 

[bripat9643]

Do the Palestinians have an Air Force with jets and attack helicopters? How about a Navy? Tanks?

No, but Israel does, which only further proves who is actually being and has always been restrained.

Restrained in what? Not completely annihilating the Palestinian people whose land the Israelis are stealing?

The Israelis are stealing nothing. Territory and land are two separate things. The government of Israel is not expropriating land from anyone who has a valid title to it.

And, yes, it takes an extraordinary degree of restraint to not annihilate those Palestinian cockroaches.

 

[bripat9643]

The Myth of Anti-Semitism

There is no label that strikes more fear into the hearts of political figures, journalists and the general public than “Anti-Semitism.” To be labeled an “anti-Semite” can mean the end of a career, the failure of a business or being shunned by friends and colleagues.

“Anti-Semitism” is a term that was coined in Europe during the latter half of the nineteenth century. Prominent Jewish scholars used it to characterize the emerging theories that “Semitic” races were inferior to “Aryan” races. Despite the fact that Arabs are Semitic, the term is now exclusively understood to mean “prejudiced against or hostile toward Jews,” according to all major dictionaries.

A similar phenomenon occurred with the word “holocaust,” referring to the period of Nazi rule in Germany from 1933 to 1945 during which Russians, gypsies, Jews, homosexuals, political opponents of the regime and prisoners of war were systematically executed. Today, visitors to Auschwitz, one of the many concentration camps built throughout Nazi-occupied Europe, find little tribute to any group other than Jews; Israeli flags litter the grounds and signs are written in Hebrew. “Holocaust” is now exclusively understood as Jewish suffering.

Refusal to recognize or support Israel has nothing to do with being “prejudiced against or hostile toward Jews” and everything to do with rejecting occupation, oppression and the myriad war crimes carried out by the Zionist state.

MUCH MORE: The Myth of Anti-Semitism | The Ugly Truth

The words anti-Semitic and holocaust are not exclusive to Jews - but they seem to think so.

"Zionism" is a term antisemites invented to make their hate sound respectable. That's all it's ever been.

 

[depotoo]

Two more soldiers killed in Gaza, bringing IDF fatalities up to 27, 7 more injured, and 23 tunnels found so far and destroyed.

 

[depotoo]

Kerry seeks Gaza cease-fire amid rising casualties - CNN.com
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Cairo on Monday and said the United States would provide $47 million in humanitarian assistance to Gaza. He is expected to hold talks in Jerusalem on Tuesday.