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If the Zionists are secular, why are they using religion to justify their theft?
85 sleepless Gaza Jerusalem.divx - YouTube
You have an actual argument or you just like to post vague 40 minute videos ?
Yes.
If the Zionists are secular, why are they using religion to justify their theft?
Brothers, there are 1.8 million of us in Gaza.Allah be praised, we all have Arab roots and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots--whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere.
Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that.
More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri [Egyptian]
Brothers, half of the Palestiniains are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis
Who are the Palestinians? we have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. we are Arabs. We are Muslims
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip, and Says: "Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis"
Check out the definition of 'religion' and modify your uneducated question.What you say makes no sense, if Jews think that only the Messiah can return them to the promised land (promised by whom? Not their god?), then they won't mind leaving until the Messiah comes back. And what are they doing there in the first place if that's the case?
Dude,are you serious ?
Jews don't have some kind of hive mind that obligates every one of them to think in the same way.
As I told you before ,Zionism is a secular movement , secular meaning non-religious.
You still demonstrate your ignorance by thinking that all Jews are religious.
Many Religious Jews think that they should wait for the Messiah in order to come to Israel and thus they don't live in Israel.
Why would they leave ? There is no other Jewish countries.then they won't mind leaving until the Messiah comes back
on the other hand there are more then 20 Arab countries.
If the Zionists are secular, why are they using religion to justify their theft?
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You act as though I know what you are talking about ...If the Zionists are secular, why are they using religion to justify their theft?
85 sleepless Gaza Jerusalem.divx - YouTube
You have an actual argument or you just like to post vague 40 minute videos ?
Yes.
If the Zionists are secular, why are they using religion to justify their theft?
You act as though I know what you are talking about ...
You have an actual argument or you just like to post vague 40 minute videos ?
Yes.
If the Zionists are secular, why are they using religion to justify their theft?
Care to elaborate on that ? (Not with videos however)
Born in Budapest, Hungary, on May 2, 1860, Herzl was educated in the spirit of the German-Jewish "Enlightenment." The family moved to Vienna in 1878 after the death of his sister. He received a doctorate in law in 1884 and worked for a short while in courts in Vienna and Salzburg, but he soon left law and devoted himself to writing.
In 1891 he became Paris correspondent for the influential liberal newspaper New Free Press of Vienna time. Herzl was in Paris when a wave of anti-Semitism broke out over the court martial of Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish army officer. Dreyfus, falsely accused of espionage and banished to an island prison, was divested of his rank in a humiliating public ceremony in January 1895, as a mob shouted "Death to the Jews. Herzl became convinced that the only solution to the Jewish problem was the mass exodus of Jews from their places of residence.
The Dreyfus case motivated Herzl to devote thought and effort to the Jewish problem. He formalized the concept of emergence from the Diaspora (the dispersion of the Jews) and return to Zion in The Jewish State. In the Jewish State, he proposed, for the first time, a program for immediate political action.
Herzl appealed to wealthy Jews such as Baron Hirsch and Baron Rothschild, to join the national Zionist movement, but in vain. He found allies however, in the Eastern European socialists and Zionists who had already formed Zionist groups. The result was the convening of the First Zionist Congress in Basle, which established the World Zionist Organization and adopted the program of attaining a Jewish State to be provided by "public law." Herzl convened six Zionist Congresses between 1897 and 1902. It was here that the tools for Zionist activism were created, including The Jewish Colonial Trust, the Jewish National Fund and the movement's newspaper Die Welt.
After the first Basle Congress, Herzl wrote in his diary, “Were I to sum up the Basle Congress in a word- which I shall guard against pronouncing publicly- it would be this: ‘At Basle, I founded the Jewish State. If I said this out loud today, I would be answered by universal laughter. If not in 5 years, certainly in 50, everyone will know it.’”
Herzl attempted to gain a Charter from the Sultan of Turkey for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, then ruled by the Ottoman Empire. To this end he met in 1898 with the German Kaiser, Wilhelm II, in Istanbul and Palestine, as well as the Sultan, but these meetings did not bear fruit.
In 1902, he published a utopian novel about the Jewish state, Altneuland (old-new land) a vision complete with monorails and modern industry. The novel concludes, "If you will, it is no legend."
Herzl negotiated with the British regarding the possibility of settling the Jews on the island of Cyprus, the Sinai Peninsula, the El Arish region and Uganda. After the Kishinev pogroms, Herzl visited Russia in July 1903. He tried to persuade the Russian government to help the Zionist Movement transfer Jews from Russia to Palestine. At the Sixth Zionist Congress Herzl proposed settlement in Uganda, on offer from the British, as a temporary "night refuge." The idea met with sharp opposition, especially from the same Russian Jews that Herzl had thought to help. Though the congress passed the plan as a gesture of esteem for Herzl, it was not pursued seriously, and the initiative died after the plan was withdrawn. Herzl met with the king of Italy, who was encouraging, and with the Pope, who expressed opposition.
Herzl died in 1904 and was buried in Vienna. After the establishment of the State of Israel his remains were reburied on Mt. Herzl, Jerusalem in the summer of 1949.
The title "Der Judenstaat" was probably meant as an ironic play on words, since it literally means "The Jews'-State," a derogatory construction like the "Judenstrasse" (Jews' Street) of the medieval ghetto. In The Jewish State, Herzl proposed a modern solution to the Jewish question. He believed that attempts at assimilation of Jews into European society were in vain, as the majority in each country decided who was a native and who an alien. The persistence of anti-Semitism determined that the Jew would always be an outsider and only the creation of a Jewish state, a matter of interest to both Jews and non-Jews would put an end to the Jewish problem.
In The Jewish State, Herzl envisioned that diplomatic activity would be the primary method for attaining the Jewish State and he called for the organized transfer of Jewish communities to the new state. Of the location of the state, Herzl said, "We shall take what is given us, and what is selected by public opinion."
Herzl's The Jewish State included social innovations such as the seven-hour working day. In general, he was interested in an economy where free enterprise and state involvement went hand-in-hand. It was to be a modern, sophisticated and technologically advanced and Europeanized society.
The Jewish State established Herzl as the leader of Zionism, and the "father of the Zionist Idea." Zionist also provoked considerable opposition, in particular from the assimilationist Jews of Central and Western Europe. The book became required reading for all Zionists and was taken as the basic platform of political Zionism.
In the Jewish State, Herzl anticipated some of the antagonism that the Zionist idea would provoke:
" To the first class of objections belongs the remark that the Jews are not the only people in the world who are in a condition of distress. Here I would reply that we may as well begin by removing a little of this misery, even if it should at first be no more than our own.
It might further be said that we ought not to create new distinctions between people; we ought not to raise fresh barriers, we should rather make the old disappear. But men who think in this way are amiable visionaries; and the idea of a native land will still flourish when the dust of their bones will have vanished tracelessly in the winds. Universal brotherhood is not even a beautiful dream."
In conclusion, he wrote:
"And what glory awaits those who fight unselfishly for the cause!
Therefore I believe that a wondrous generation of Jews will spring into existence. The Maccabeans will rise again.
Let me repeat once more my opening words: The Jews who wish for a State will have it. We shall live at last as free men on our own soil, and die peacefully in our own homes.
The world will be freed by our liberty, enriched by our wealth, magnified by our greatness.
And whatever we attempt there to accomplish for our own welfare, will react powerfully and beneficially for the good of humanity. "
Got it , thank you for playing though.You act as though I know what you are talking about ...Yes.
If the Zionists are secular, why are they using religion to justify their theft?
Care to elaborate on that ? (Not with videos however)
No.
What religious bondage you might refer to ?
I wonder why you think that Palestinians are a general Muslim problem in a whole ...
(It would seem that Muslims are also brainwashed to this assumption).
Jews will always be handicapped by their religion which tells them that they are god's chosen people and that god gave the land to Jews in Palestine. Which is of course total bullshit, but forces them to hang onto land that will in all likelyhood lead to their ultimate destruction.
it's a muslim problem because all muslims hate Jews (and everyone else who isn't a raghead, but especially jews)
You just showed that you know absolutely nothing about Israel or the Jewish religion.
Zionism is mostly a secular movement.
The Jewish religion says that only the Messiah can return the Jews to the 'promised land', meaning they should not return until the Messiah comes.
Israel and the Jews who live within it do not hold the land because 'god' gave it to them... Again , you have shown total ignorance in this subject.
Zionism is complete.
Born in Budapest, Hungary, on May 2, 1860, Herzl was educated in the spirit of the German-Jewish "Enlightenment." The family moved to Vienna in 1878 after the death of his sister. He received a doctorate in law in 1884 and worked for a short while in courts in Vienna and Salzburg, but he soon left law and devoted himself to writing.
In 1891 he became Paris correspondent for the influential liberal newspaper New Free Press of Vienna time. Herzl was in Paris when a wave of anti-Semitism broke out over the court martial of Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish army officer. Dreyfus, falsely accused of espionage and banished to an island prison, was divested of his rank in a humiliating public ceremony in January 1895, as a mob shouted "Death to the Jews. Herzl became convinced that the only solution to the Jewish problem was the mass exodus of Jews from their places of residence.
The Dreyfus case motivated Herzl to devote thought and effort to the Jewish problem. He formalized the concept of emergence from the Diaspora (the dispersion of the Jews) and return to Zion in The Jewish State. In the Jewish State, he proposed, for the first time, a program for immediate political action.
Herzl appealed to wealthy Jews such as Baron Hirsch and Baron Rothschild, to join the national Zionist movement, but in vain. He found allies however, in the Eastern European socialists and Zionists who had already formed Zionist groups. The result was the convening of the First Zionist Congress in Basle, which established the World Zionist Organization and adopted the program of attaining a Jewish State to be provided by "public law." Herzl convened six Zionist Congresses between 1897 and 1902. It was here that the tools for Zionist activism were created, including The Jewish Colonial Trust, the Jewish National Fund and the movement's newspaper Die Welt.
After the first Basle Congress, Herzl wrote in his diary, Were I to sum up the Basle Congress in a word- which I shall guard against pronouncing publicly- it would be this: At Basle, I founded the Jewish State. If I said this out loud today, I would be answered by universal laughter. If not in 5 years, certainly in 50, everyone will know it.
Herzl attempted to gain a Charter from the Sultan of Turkey for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, then ruled by the Ottoman Empire. To this end he met in 1898 with the German Kaiser, Wilhelm II, in Istanbul and Palestine, as well as the Sultan, but these meetings did not bear fruit.
In 1902, he published a utopian novel about the Jewish state, Altneuland (old-new land) a vision complete with monorails and modern industry. The novel concludes, "If you will, it is no legend."
Herzl negotiated with the British regarding the possibility of settling the Jews on the island of Cyprus, the Sinai Peninsula, the El Arish region and Uganda. After the Kishinev pogroms, Herzl visited Russia in July 1903. He tried to persuade the Russian government to help the Zionist Movement transfer Jews from Russia to Palestine. At the Sixth Zionist Congress Herzl proposed settlement in Uganda, on offer from the British, as a temporary "night refuge." The idea met with sharp opposition, especially from the same Russian Jews that Herzl had thought to help. Though the congress passed the plan as a gesture of esteem for Herzl, it was not pursued seriously, and the initiative died after the plan was withdrawn. Herzl met with the king of Italy, who was encouraging, and with the Pope, who expressed opposition.
Herzl died in 1904 and was buried in Vienna. After the establishment of the State of Israel his remains were reburied on Mt. Herzl, Jerusalem in the summer of 1949.
The title "Der Judenstaat" was probably meant as an ironic play on words, since it literally means "The Jews'-State," a derogatory construction like the "Judenstrasse" (Jews' Street) of the medieval ghetto. In The Jewish State, Herzl proposed a modern solution to the Jewish question. He believed that attempts at assimilation of Jews into European society were in vain, as the majority in each country decided who was a native and who an alien. The persistence of anti-Semitism determined that the Jew would always be an outsider and only the creation of a Jewish state, a matter of interest to both Jews and non-Jews would put an end to the Jewish problem.
In The Jewish State, Herzl envisioned that diplomatic activity would be the primary method for attaining the Jewish State and he called for the organized transfer of Jewish communities to the new state. Of the location of the state, Herzl said, "We shall take what is given us, and what is selected by public opinion."
Herzl's The Jewish State included social innovations such as the seven-hour working day. In general, he was interested in an economy where free enterprise and state involvement went hand-in-hand. It was to be a modern, sophisticated and technologically advanced and Europeanized society.
The Jewish State established Herzl as the leader of Zionism, and the "father of the Zionist Idea." Zionist also provoked considerable opposition, in particular from the assimilationist Jews of Central and Western Europe. The book became required reading for all Zionists and was taken as the basic platform of political Zionism.
In the Jewish State, Herzl anticipated some of the antagonism that the Zionist idea would provoke:
" To the first class of objections belongs the remark that the Jews are not the only people in the world who are in a condition of distress. Here I would reply that we may as well begin by removing a little of this misery, even if it should at first be no more than our own.
It might further be said that we ought not to create new distinctions between people; we ought not to raise fresh barriers, we should rather make the old disappear. But men who think in this way are amiable visionaries; and the idea of a native land will still flourish when the dust of their bones will have vanished tracelessly in the winds. Universal brotherhood is not even a beautiful dream."
In conclusion, he wrote:
"And what glory awaits those who fight unselfishly for the cause!
Therefore I believe that a wondrous generation of Jews will spring into existence. The Maccabeans will rise again.
Let me repeat once more my opening words: The Jews who wish for a State will have it. We shall live at last as free men on our own soil, and die peacefully in our own homes.
The world will be freed by our liberty, enriched by our wealth, magnified by our greatness.
And whatever we attempt there to accomplish for our own welfare, will react powerfully and beneficially for the good of humanity. "
The Jewish State - Theodore Herzl 1896- The ideological foundations of Zionism - Complete Dowloadable e-book
http://www.mideastweb.org/jewishstate.pdf
A done deal....
Samson awaits...
Zionism is complete.
Born in Budapest, Hungary, on May 2, 1860, Herzl was educated in the spirit of the German-Jewish "Enlightenment." The family moved to Vienna in 1878 after the death of his sister. He received a doctorate in law in 1884 and worked for a short while in courts in Vienna and Salzburg, but he soon left law and devoted himself to writing.
In 1891 he became Paris correspondent for the influential liberal newspaper New Free Press of Vienna time. Herzl was in Paris when a wave of anti-Semitism broke out over the court martial of Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish army officer. Dreyfus, falsely accused of espionage and banished to an island prison, was divested of his rank in a humiliating public ceremony in January 1895, as a mob shouted "Death to the Jews. Herzl became convinced that the only solution to the Jewish problem was the mass exodus of Jews from their places of residence.
The Dreyfus case motivated Herzl to devote thought and effort to the Jewish problem. He formalized the concept of emergence from the Diaspora (the dispersion of the Jews) and return to Zion in The Jewish State. In the Jewish State, he proposed, for the first time, a program for immediate political action.
Herzl appealed to wealthy Jews such as Baron Hirsch and Baron Rothschild, to join the national Zionist movement, but in vain. He found allies however, in the Eastern European socialists and Zionists who had already formed Zionist groups. The result was the convening of the First Zionist Congress in Basle, which established the World Zionist Organization and adopted the program of attaining a Jewish State to be provided by "public law." Herzl convened six Zionist Congresses between 1897 and 1902. It was here that the tools for Zionist activism were created, including The Jewish Colonial Trust, the Jewish National Fund and the movement's newspaper Die Welt.
After the first Basle Congress, Herzl wrote in his diary, Were I to sum up the Basle Congress in a word- which I shall guard against pronouncing publicly- it would be this: At Basle, I founded the Jewish State. If I said this out loud today, I would be answered by universal laughter. If not in 5 years, certainly in 50, everyone will know it.
Herzl attempted to gain a Charter from the Sultan of Turkey for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, then ruled by the Ottoman Empire. To this end he met in 1898 with the German Kaiser, Wilhelm II, in Istanbul and Palestine, as well as the Sultan, but these meetings did not bear fruit.
In 1902, he published a utopian novel about the Jewish state, Altneuland (old-new land) a vision complete with monorails and modern industry. The novel concludes, "If you will, it is no legend."
Herzl negotiated with the British regarding the possibility of settling the Jews on the island of Cyprus, the Sinai Peninsula, the El Arish region and Uganda. After the Kishinev pogroms, Herzl visited Russia in July 1903. He tried to persuade the Russian government to help the Zionist Movement transfer Jews from Russia to Palestine. At the Sixth Zionist Congress Herzl proposed settlement in Uganda, on offer from the British, as a temporary "night refuge." The idea met with sharp opposition, especially from the same Russian Jews that Herzl had thought to help. Though the congress passed the plan as a gesture of esteem for Herzl, it was not pursued seriously, and the initiative died after the plan was withdrawn. Herzl met with the king of Italy, who was encouraging, and with the Pope, who expressed opposition.
Herzl died in 1904 and was buried in Vienna. After the establishment of the State of Israel his remains were reburied on Mt. Herzl, Jerusalem in the summer of 1949.
The title "Der Judenstaat" was probably meant as an ironic play on words, since it literally means "The Jews'-State," a derogatory construction like the "Judenstrasse" (Jews' Street) of the medieval ghetto. In The Jewish State, Herzl proposed a modern solution to the Jewish question. He believed that attempts at assimilation of Jews into European society were in vain, as the majority in each country decided who was a native and who an alien. The persistence of anti-Semitism determined that the Jew would always be an outsider and only the creation of a Jewish state, a matter of interest to both Jews and non-Jews would put an end to the Jewish problem.
In The Jewish State, Herzl envisioned that diplomatic activity would be the primary method for attaining the Jewish State and he called for the organized transfer of Jewish communities to the new state. Of the location of the state, Herzl said, "We shall take what is given us, and what is selected by public opinion."
Herzl's The Jewish State included social innovations such as the seven-hour working day. In general, he was interested in an economy where free enterprise and state involvement went hand-in-hand. It was to be a modern, sophisticated and technologically advanced and Europeanized society.
The Jewish State established Herzl as the leader of Zionism, and the "father of the Zionist Idea." Zionist also provoked considerable opposition, in particular from the assimilationist Jews of Central and Western Europe. The book became required reading for all Zionists and was taken as the basic platform of political Zionism.
In the Jewish State, Herzl anticipated some of the antagonism that the Zionist idea would provoke:
" To the first class of objections belongs the remark that the Jews are not the only people in the world who are in a condition of distress. Here I would reply that we may as well begin by removing a little of this misery, even if it should at first be no more than our own.
It might further be said that we ought not to create new distinctions between people; we ought not to raise fresh barriers, we should rather make the old disappear. But men who think in this way are amiable visionaries; and the idea of a native land will still flourish when the dust of their bones will have vanished tracelessly in the winds. Universal brotherhood is not even a beautiful dream."
In conclusion, he wrote:
"And what glory awaits those who fight unselfishly for the cause!
Therefore I believe that a wondrous generation of Jews will spring into existence. The Maccabeans will rise again.
Let me repeat once more my opening words: The Jews who wish for a State will have it. We shall live at last as free men on our own soil, and die peacefully in our own homes.
The world will be freed by our liberty, enriched by our wealth, magnified by our greatness.
And whatever we attempt there to accomplish for our own welfare, will react powerfully and beneficially for the good of humanity. "
The Jewish State - Theodore Herzl 1896- The ideological foundations of Zionism - Complete Dowloadable e-book
http://www.mideastweb.org/jewishstate.pdf
A done deal....
Samson awaits...
So that is their justification for armed robbery.
Brothers, there are 1.8 million of us in Gaza.Allah be praised, we all have Arab roots and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots--whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere.
Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that.
More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri [Egyptian]
Brothers, half of the Palestiniains are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis
Who are the Palestinians? we have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. we are Arabs. We are Muslims
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip, and Says: "Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis"
Zionism is complete.
Born in Budapest, Hungary, on May 2, 1860, Herzl was educated in the spirit of the German-Jewish "Enlightenment." The family moved to Vienna in 1878 after the death of his sister. He received a doctorate in law in 1884 and worked for a short while in courts in Vienna and Salzburg, but he soon left law and devoted himself to writing.
In 1891 he became Paris correspondent for the influential liberal newspaper New Free Press of Vienna time. Herzl was in Paris when a wave of anti-Semitism broke out over the court martial of Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish army officer. Dreyfus, falsely accused of espionage and banished to an island prison, was divested of his rank in a humiliating public ceremony in January 1895, as a mob shouted "Death to the Jews. Herzl became convinced that the only solution to the Jewish problem was the mass exodus of Jews from their places of residence.
The Dreyfus case motivated Herzl to devote thought and effort to the Jewish problem. He formalized the concept of emergence from the Diaspora (the dispersion of the Jews) and return to Zion in The Jewish State. In the Jewish State, he proposed, for the first time, a program for immediate political action.
Herzl appealed to wealthy Jews such as Baron Hirsch and Baron Rothschild, to join the national Zionist movement, but in vain. He found allies however, in the Eastern European socialists and Zionists who had already formed Zionist groups. The result was the convening of the First Zionist Congress in Basle, which established the World Zionist Organization and adopted the program of attaining a Jewish State to be provided by "public law." Herzl convened six Zionist Congresses between 1897 and 1902. It was here that the tools for Zionist activism were created, including The Jewish Colonial Trust, the Jewish National Fund and the movement's newspaper Die Welt.
After the first Basle Congress, Herzl wrote in his diary, Were I to sum up the Basle Congress in a word- which I shall guard against pronouncing publicly- it would be this: At Basle, I founded the Jewish State. If I said this out loud today, I would be answered by universal laughter. If not in 5 years, certainly in 50, everyone will know it.
Herzl attempted to gain a Charter from the Sultan of Turkey for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, then ruled by the Ottoman Empire. To this end he met in 1898 with the German Kaiser, Wilhelm II, in Istanbul and Palestine, as well as the Sultan, but these meetings did not bear fruit.
In 1902, he published a utopian novel about the Jewish state, Altneuland (old-new land) a vision complete with monorails and modern industry. The novel concludes, "If you will, it is no legend."
Herzl negotiated with the British regarding the possibility of settling the Jews on the island of Cyprus, the Sinai Peninsula, the El Arish region and Uganda. After the Kishinev pogroms, Herzl visited Russia in July 1903. He tried to persuade the Russian government to help the Zionist Movement transfer Jews from Russia to Palestine. At the Sixth Zionist Congress Herzl proposed settlement in Uganda, on offer from the British, as a temporary "night refuge." The idea met with sharp opposition, especially from the same Russian Jews that Herzl had thought to help. Though the congress passed the plan as a gesture of esteem for Herzl, it was not pursued seriously, and the initiative died after the plan was withdrawn. Herzl met with the king of Italy, who was encouraging, and with the Pope, who expressed opposition.
Herzl died in 1904 and was buried in Vienna. After the establishment of the State of Israel his remains were reburied on Mt. Herzl, Jerusalem in the summer of 1949.
The title "Der Judenstaat" was probably meant as an ironic play on words, since it literally means "The Jews'-State," a derogatory construction like the "Judenstrasse" (Jews' Street) of the medieval ghetto. In The Jewish State, Herzl proposed a modern solution to the Jewish question. He believed that attempts at assimilation of Jews into European society were in vain, as the majority in each country decided who was a native and who an alien. The persistence of anti-Semitism determined that the Jew would always be an outsider and only the creation of a Jewish state, a matter of interest to both Jews and non-Jews would put an end to the Jewish problem.
In The Jewish State, Herzl envisioned that diplomatic activity would be the primary method for attaining the Jewish State and he called for the organized transfer of Jewish communities to the new state. Of the location of the state, Herzl said, "We shall take what is given us, and what is selected by public opinion."
Herzl's The Jewish State included social innovations such as the seven-hour working day. In general, he was interested in an economy where free enterprise and state involvement went hand-in-hand. It was to be a modern, sophisticated and technologically advanced and Europeanized society.
The Jewish State established Herzl as the leader of Zionism, and the "father of the Zionist Idea." Zionist also provoked considerable opposition, in particular from the assimilationist Jews of Central and Western Europe. The book became required reading for all Zionists and was taken as the basic platform of political Zionism.
In the Jewish State, Herzl anticipated some of the antagonism that the Zionist idea would provoke:
" To the first class of objections belongs the remark that the Jews are not the only people in the world who are in a condition of distress. Here I would reply that we may as well begin by removing a little of this misery, even if it should at first be no more than our own.
It might further be said that we ought not to create new distinctions between people; we ought not to raise fresh barriers, we should rather make the old disappear. But men who think in this way are amiable visionaries; and the idea of a native land will still flourish when the dust of their bones will have vanished tracelessly in the winds. Universal brotherhood is not even a beautiful dream."
In conclusion, he wrote:
"And what glory awaits those who fight unselfishly for the cause!
Therefore I believe that a wondrous generation of Jews will spring into existence. The Maccabeans will rise again.
Let me repeat once more my opening words: The Jews who wish for a State will have it. We shall live at last as free men on our own soil, and die peacefully in our own homes.
The world will be freed by our liberty, enriched by our wealth, magnified by our greatness.
And whatever we attempt there to accomplish for our own welfare, will react powerfully and beneficially for the good of humanity. "
The Jewish State - Theodore Herzl 1896- The ideological foundations of Zionism - Complete Dowloadable e-book
http://www.mideastweb.org/jewishstate.pdf
A done deal....
Samson awaits...
So that is their justification for armed robbery.
zionism is complete.
the jewish state - theodore herzl 1896- the ideological foundations of zionism - complete dowloadable e-book
http://www.mideastweb.org/jewishstate.pdf
a done deal....
Samson awaits...
so that is their justification for armed robbery.
arab armed robbery of jewish land when arabs invaded israel from egypt and saudi arabia.
hamas minister of the interior fathi hammad, al-hekma tv [egypt]
brothers, there are 1.8 million of us in gaza.allah be praised, we all have arab roots and every palestinian in gaza and throughout palestine can prove his arab roots--whether from saudi arabia, from yemen, or anywhere.
Personally, half my family is egyptian. We are all like that.
More than 30 families in the gaza strip are called al-masri [egyptian]
brothers, half of the palestiniains are egyptians and the other half are saudis
who are the palestinians? We have many families called al-masri, whose roots are egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from alexandria, from cairo, from dumietta, from the north, from aswan, from upper egypt. We are egyptians. We are arabs. We are muslims
hamas minister of the interior and of national security fathi hammad slams egypt over fuel shortage in gaza strip, and says: "half of the palestinians are egyptians and the other half are saudis"
Arab armed robbery of Jewish land when Arabs invaded Israel from Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
Hamas Minister of the Interior Fathi Hammad, Al-Hekma TV [Egypt]
Brothers, there are 1.8 million of us in Gaza.Allah be praised, we all have Arab roots and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots--whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere.
Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that.
More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri [Egyptian]
Brothers, half of the Palestiniains are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis
Who are the Palestinians? we have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. we are Arabs. We are Muslims
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip, and Says: "Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis"
You just showed that you know absolutely nothing about Israel or the Jewish religion.
Zionism is mostly a secular movement.
The Jewish religion says that only the Messiah can return the Jews to the 'promised land', meaning they should not return until the Messiah comes.
Israel and the Jews who live within it do not hold the land because 'god' gave it to them... Again , you have shown total ignorance in this subject.
What you say makes no sense, if Jews think that only the Messiah can return them to the promised land (promised by whom? Not their god?), then they won't mind leaving until the Messiah comes back. And what are they doing there in the first place if that's the case?
Dude,are you serious ?
Jews don't have some kind of hive mind that obligates every one of them to think in the same way.
As I told you before ,Zionism is a secular movement , secular meaning non-religious.
You still demonstrate your ignorance by thinking that all Jews are religious.
Many Religious Jews think that they should wait for the Messiah in order to come to Israel and thus they don't live in Israel.
Why would they leave ? There is no other Jewish countries.then they won't mind leaving until the Messiah comes back
on the other hand there are more then 20 Arab countries.
What you say makes no sense, if Jews think that only the Messiah can return them to the promised land (promised by whom? Not their god?), then they won't mind leaving until the Messiah comes back. And what are they doing there in the first place if that's the case?
Dude,are you serious ?
Jews don't have some kind of hive mind that obligates every one of them to think in the same way.
As I told you before ,Zionism is a secular movement , secular meaning non-religious.
You still demonstrate your ignorance by thinking that all Jews are religious.
Many Religious Jews think that they should wait for the Messiah in order to come to Israel and thus they don't live in Israel.
Why would they leave ? There is no other Jewish countries.then they won't mind leaving until the Messiah comes back
on the other hand there are more then 20 Arab countries.
A jew is someone who follows Judaism, which is a religion.
Zionism is secular, agreed, but a jew isn't necessarily a zionist, which is about supporting Israel.
Quran 17:104 And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) on the earth]. We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd
so that is their justification for armed robbery.
arab armed robbery of jewish land when arabs invaded israel from egypt and saudi arabia.
hamas minister of the interior fathi hammad, al-hekma tv [egypt]
brothers, there are 1.8 million of us in gaza.allah be praised, we all have arab roots and every palestinian in gaza and throughout palestine can prove his arab roots--whether from saudi arabia, from yemen, or anywhere.
Personally, half my family is egyptian. We are all like that.
More than 30 families in the gaza strip are called al-masri [egyptian]
brothers, half of the palestiniains are egyptians and the other half are saudis
who are the palestinians? We have many families called al-masri, whose roots are egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from alexandria, from cairo, from dumietta, from the north, from aswan, from upper egypt. We are egyptians. We are arabs. We are muslims
hamas minister of the interior and of national security fathi hammad slams egypt over fuel shortage in gaza strip, and says: "half of the palestinians are egyptians and the other half are saudis"
+1
arab armed robbery of jewish land when arabs invaded israel from egypt and saudi arabia.
hamas minister of the interior fathi hammad, al-hekma tv [egypt]
+1
The state of Palestine was created and its international borders were defined in 1922. All of the people whose normal residents was inside those borders at that time became Palestinian citizens.
Nothing else matters.
There is a young, well educated pro democracy movement in Iran. Their goal is to oust the dictator, the mullahs & the ayatolahs & bring back the pride that was Persia under Zoroastrian rule.
arab armed robbery of jewish land when arabs invaded israel from egypt and saudi arabia.
hamas minister of the interior fathi hammad, al-hekma tv [egypt]
+1
The state of Palestine was created and its international borders were defined in 1922. All of the people whose normal residents was inside those borders at that time became Palestinian citizens.
Nothing else matters.
The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish rebel] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.
The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews by Paula Fredriksen - Book - Random House
In 70 AD, after a siege marked by starvation and terror crucifixions, the Roman army broke through the walls of Jerusalem. Not only did they kill thousands of Jews, they laid waste to the Temple, the only place on Earth, according to Biblical law, where Jews could worship God.
It was the death of the religion of Priests and sacrifices described by the Hebrew Bible. But, it would not be the death of Judaism. In the years ahead, some of the greatest religious minds in history would struggle to reinvent the religion of Moses and David.
But, the Jews would be forced to work during a period of almost inconceivable bloodshed and turmoil. They would watch their people be expelled from Jerusalem on pain of death and see the name of their homeland changed from Judea to Palestine
There is a young, well educated pro democracy movement in Iran. Their goal is to oust the dictator, the mullahs & the ayatolahs & bring back the pride that was Persia under Zoroastrian rule.
Just curious, would you still support the pro-democracy movement if whoever's elected still wants to nuke Israel?
(The Shah's looking pretty good about now, lol)
