Israel is kicking ass

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Palestine is further from having its own State than it has ever been. Every time they attack Israel, they get further away.

 

[Mac-7]

The Arab Palestinians can't be "given" self-determination. It's not a piece of pizza.

They havent done so good trying to take it by force

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Last I checked, 97% of the territory the Arab Palestinians claimed to want. But that deal is no longer viable.

The Israeli government is extreme right wing, these extremists play a part in determining the future of the country.





These are belligerent, racists, and there are lots of them, a Palestinian seeing the true nature of Israel's political system is under no illusion about their plight.

Smotrich is right now actively enabling settlers to terrorize the non-Jew population, as we speak him and many like him are enabling the persecution and abuse of non-Jews.

With a system like that, claims like "The Arabs in Israel HAVE the same rights" is merely vacuous rhetoric.

If there was a law maker in the US saying that we needed to resume slavery and lynching's and that same individual was then in charge of allocating land only to whites, how would that be for a black person?

If I were a Palestinian having to live under that kind of rule, I'd resist, I'd want to destroy the obscene system of government, I'd refuse to be trampled under foot by thugs in kippahs who keep telling me I have the same rights as Jews.

Israel cannot govern itself, the Jews running the place do not know how to govern, they've had zero experience in the past almost three thousands years, all they can do is act like stone age tribalists, it's insane, and cannot be sustained.

 

[ESay]

Last I checked, 97% of the territory the Arab Palestinians claimed to want. But that deal is no longer viable.

Right, including East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

 

[Shusha]

Smotrich is right now actively enabling settlers to terrorize the non-Jew population, as we speak him and many like him are enabling the persecution and abuse of non-Jews.

You be sure to let me know when the Israeli government institutes a pay-for-slay policy, 'kay?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You be sure to let me know when the Israeli government institutes a pay-for-slay policy, 'kay?

I don't see how that rebuts what I just accused Israel of in my post.

 

[Shusha]

Right, including East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

Yep. That was the deal on the table.

That deal is long gone. I can't see any deal in the near future. But that is not because Israel refuses Arab Palestinian self-determination. It is because Arab Palestine (and Hezbollah/Lebanon; Houthis; and Iran) continually undermine the security and sovereignty of Israel. (The inconvenient part of 242 that everyone seems to forget.)

 

[Shusha]

I don't see how that rebuts what I just accused Israel of in my post.

It was more of a pot. kettle. thing.

 

[ESay]

Yep. That was the deal on the table.

That deal is long gone. I can't see any deal in the near future. But that is not because Israel refuses Arab Palestinian self-determination. It is because Arab Palestine (and Hezbollah/Lebanon; Houthis; and Iran) continually undermine the security and sovereignty of Israel. (The inconvenient part of 242 that everyone seems to forget.)

If I remember correctly, it was not that simple. One of three sectors of the West Bank was never intended to be under full Palestinian sovereignty.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

It was more of a pot. kettle. thing.

I beg your pardon? You are often reticent to engage me when confronted with blunt and uncomfortable facts about Israel's institutionalized racism.

 

[Shusha]

I beg your pardon? You are often reticent to engage me when confronted with blunt and uncomfortable facts about Israel's institutionalized racism.

I will be happy to engage on the day you present facts. Until then ...

 

[Shusha]

If I remember correctly, it was not that simple. One of three sectors of the West Bank was never intended to be under full Palestinian sovereignty.

I don't know what you mean by "three sectors of the West Bank". Do you mean Areas A, B, and C under the Oslo Accords?

Final boundaries are subject to negotiation and treaty agreement.