Israel's "Right to Exist"?

[sealadaigh]

How do you get hasbara's shit off your tonsils, Golda?

"USS Liberty sailors report that Israel attacked the Liberty using unmarked aircraft. This one observation tends to prove Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel's story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war.

"Were that true, there would be no reason to attack a supposedly Egyptian ship with unmarked aircraft! The only possible reason to use unmarked aircraft to attack the ship is that Israel knew it was an American ship and intended to sink it, then to blame the attack on Egypt."

U.S.S. Liberty - What Really Happened Wiki

Try harder, Pussy.

Curious George the Islamist monkey is ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED over the USS Liberty, but USS Cole, Marine Baracks, and over 16,000 acts of Islamic terror since 9-11, including some on Americans? Eh, who cares. No Jews involved. No Jews, no juice.

sheesh...you have a one track mind...

perhaps, just perhaps, he is as angry about how the incident was handled as much as he is about the incident itself, and that is fair...to seek the justice these dead men deserve.

stop trying to divert and use other dead american sailors and marines to change the focus. god, these are people who put their lives on the line for you everyday but to you they are nothing but fodder.

act like an american for once instead of putting israel first. it was not a case of mistaken identity. hours of observation. a prolonged attack. torpedo boats strafing the hull. what the hell do you think..."uh, there's a shp out there about five klics. bad guys, let's strafe it with a fifty cal." you get close, even with a .50, about 200 meters.

GTR5

just get real.

 

[docmauser1]

Why did the Heroic Hebrews fly unmarked jets, ... ?

Jihadi-moni told leutenant Painter to fly them around, maybe? Sheets of paper, folding, toss, airborne. Eh?

 

[Liability]

reabhloideach says, "That fuckin' Israel. When we politely ask them to just lie down and die, they REFUSE! Those arrogant willful stubborn bastards! Those Joooooz!"

And when he says it, being the fucking moron that he is, he actually means it!

 

[irosie91]

The big error -----was that the US did not inform Israel that it had a ship in the area------there was a war going on. The mistake created a tragedy --------now-----if you can prove that the US DID INFORM ISRAEL THAT THE SHIP WAS IN THE AREA----then you have a case. Sorry------the US made a mistake------LOTS OF MISTAKES HAPPEN IN THE MILITARY Attempts to make it a purposeful act are silly---------if it had been a purposeful act the ship would be at the bottom of the sea-----THERE WAS NOTHING TO STOP AN ALL OUT ATTACK

"Israel acknowledged the following facts without qualification:
a. USS Liberty was an American ship, hence a neutral vis-à-vis the June
1967 war between Israel and its Arab neighbors.
8
b. USS Liberty remained in international waters at all times on June 8, 1967
9
.
c. The attacking Israeli forces never made a positive identification of the nationality of USS Liberty before unleashing deadly force in their attack on
the ship.
10
At approximately 0600 hours (all times local) on the morning of June 8, 1967 an Israeli maritime reconnaissance aircraft observer reported seeing 'a US Navy cargo type
ship,' just outside the coverage of the Israeli coastal radar defense net, bearing the hull
markings 'GTR-5'.
11
"This report, made to Israeli naval HQ, was also forwarded immediately to the Israeli navy intelligence directorate..."

"Throughout the remainder of the day prior to the attack, Israeli reconnaissance aircraft regularly flew out to USS Liberty’s position and orbited the ship before returning to
their bases in Israel. A total of no fewer than eight (8) such flights were made.
13
"At approximately 1050 hours, the naval observer from the early morning reconnaissance flight arrived at Israeli air force HQ and sat down with the air-naval liaison officer
there. The two officers consulted Janes’ Fighting Ships and learned that the ship reported earlier in the day was USS Liberty, a United States Navy technical research
ship..."

"In the instant matter, Israel freely acknowledged that USS Liberty was a neutral ship
in international waters.
57
"Israel also admitted that the attack was deliberate and made
with the intent to sink the ship and crew.
58
"Israel has thus explicitly admitted the essential elements of a violation of Article 1 of the Hague Convention on Naval Warfare. Israel
has further admitted the essential elements required to establish a 'grave breach' as
that term is defined in the Geneva Convention (1949).
The Nürnberg War Crimes Tribunal established certain principles that were later
adopted by all members of the United Nations."

http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf

Again you have said nothing george
"Israel has admitted that the ship was an american ship" Of course it has so admitted----the ship was an american ship and Israel STOPPED bombing it as soon as that fact was confirmed

"the ship stayed in international waters"
Yeah? so did the BIZMARCK

"the objective was to sink the ship" right----and then
Israel realized that the ship was an US ship and did not sink it If israel wanted to sink a US ship ---she would have sunk the USS Liberty

"Israel had no DEFINITE ID ON THE SHIP" when she started the attack" right again George All Israel knew is that it was not an Israeli ship---it was unidentified and it failed to answer HAILS ----which is a fact you and your jihadist friends left out The claim that Israel "JAMMED" the USS LIBERTY communications system turns out to be yet another jihadist lie

you lose again George the tragic error is that the US did not inform Israel that it had sent a ship right smack into the middle of an arena of war

 

[georgephillip]

Why did the Heroic Hebrews fly unmarked jets, ... ?

Jihadi-moni told leutenant Painter to fly them around, maybe? Sheets of paper, folding, toss, airborne. Eh?

"Throughout the remainder of the day prior to the attack, Israeli reconnaissance aircraft regularly flew out to USS Liberty's position and orbited the ship before returning to their bases in Israel.

"A total of no fewer than eight (8) such flights were made.[13]

"At approximately 1050 hours, the naval observer from the early morning reconnaissance flight arrived at Israeli air force HQ and sat down with the air-naval liaison officer there. The two officers consulted Jane's Fighting Ships and learned that the ship reported earlier in the day was USS Liberty, a United States Navy technical research ship."

Stop hating, drivel.
Man-up and admit your mistakes.

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

 

[irosie91]

Have you ever served in the military george? I have----in fact I was involved in ---INVESTIGATIONS RELATED TO INJURIES---------sustained in war-------and----in general --as in training etc etc The claim of a sailor UNDER FIRE as to the INTENTION of the people doing the shooting-------is-----I can assure you------not reliable No one hit with a bomb says I LOVE THAT GUY ANYWAY---IT WAS A MISTAKE No one hit by a car says that either

 

[docmauser1]

"USS Liberty sailors report that Israel attacked the Liberty using unmarked aircraft. This one observation tends to prove Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel's story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war.

Leutenant Painter is a little cteepy liah. According to the testimony of Signalman Russell David the latter saw israeli insignia on the attacking craft and reported that to the Cap. Dooh.

Would that be Signalman Russell "Star of" David, drivel? How many of your neighbors have you murdered today?

Oh! All-predictable drivel-rage and no argument! We win, of course. On the sidenote, though, what leutenant Painter was able to "identify" or "misidentify" from below decks was batman.

 

[sealadaigh]

reabhloideach says, "That fuckin' Israel. When we politely ask them to just lie down and die, they REFUSE! Those arrogant willful stubborn bastards! Those Joooooz!"

And when he says it, being the fucking moron that he is, he actually means it!

LOL...i seem to have a knack for bringing out the hysteria and desperation of the zionists.

now you have a nice day...oh...and if you go out in the sun, don't forgey to wear your bonnet.

 

[docmauser1]

Why did the Heroic Hebrews fly unmarked jets, ... ?

Jihadi-moni told leutenant Painter to fly them around, maybe? Sheets of paper, folding, toss, airborne. Eh?

"Throughout the remainder of the day prior to the attack, Israeli reconnaissance aircraft regularly flew out to USS Liberty's position and orbited the ship before returning to their bases in Israel.

Holy batman! Marked jets! What happened to the "unmarked" batmen?

 

[georgephillip]

The big error -----was that the US did not inform Israel that it had a ship in the area------there was a war going on. The mistake created a tragedy --------now-----if you can prove that the US DID INFORM ISRAEL THAT THE SHIP WAS IN THE AREA----then you have a case. Sorry------the US made a mistake------LOTS OF MISTAKES HAPPEN IN THE MILITARY Attempts to make it a purposeful act are silly---------if it had been a purposeful act the ship would be at the bottom of the sea-----THERE WAS NOTHING TO STOP AN ALL OUT ATTACK

"Israel acknowledged the following facts without qualification:
a. USS Liberty was an American ship, hence a neutral vis-à-vis the June
1967 war between Israel and its Arab neighbors.
8
b. USS Liberty remained in international waters at all times on June 8, 1967
9
.
c. The attacking Israeli forces never made a positive identification of the nationality of USS Liberty before unleashing deadly force in their attack on
the ship.
10
At approximately 0600 hours (all times local) on the morning of June 8, 1967 an Israeli maritime reconnaissance aircraft observer reported seeing 'a US Navy cargo type
ship,' just outside the coverage of the Israeli coastal radar defense net, bearing the hull
markings 'GTR-5'.
11
"This report, made to Israeli naval HQ, was also forwarded immediately to the Israeli navy intelligence directorate..."

"Throughout the remainder of the day prior to the attack, Israeli reconnaissance aircraft regularly flew out to USS Liberty’s position and orbited the ship before returning to
their bases in Israel. A total of no fewer than eight (8) such flights were made.
13
"At approximately 1050 hours, the naval observer from the early morning reconnaissance flight arrived at Israeli air force HQ and sat down with the air-naval liaison officer
there. The two officers consulted Janes’ Fighting Ships and learned that the ship reported earlier in the day was USS Liberty, a United States Navy technical research
ship..."

"In the instant matter, Israel freely acknowledged that USS Liberty was a neutral ship
in international waters.
57
"Israel also admitted that the attack was deliberate and made
with the intent to sink the ship and crew.
58
"Israel has thus explicitly admitted the essential elements of a violation of Article 1 of the Hague Convention on Naval Warfare. Israel
has further admitted the essential elements required to establish a 'grave breach' as
that term is defined in the Geneva Convention (1949).
The Nürnberg War Crimes Tribunal established certain principles that were later
adopted by all members of the United Nations."

http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf

Again you have said nothing george
"Israel has admitted that the ship was an american ship" Of course it has so admitted----the ship was an american ship and Israel STOPPED bombing it as soon as that fact was confirmed

"the ship stayed in international waters"
Yeah? so did the BIZMARCK

"the objective was to sink the ship" right----and then
Israel realized that the ship was an US ship and did not sink it If israel wanted to sink a US ship ---she would have sunk the USS Liberty

"Israel had no DEFINITE ID ON THE SHIP" when she started the attack" right again George All Israel knew is that it was not an Israeli ship---it was unidentified and it failed to answer HAILS ----which is a fact you and your jihadist friends left out The claim that Israel "JAMMED" the USS LIBERTY communications system turns out to be yet another jihadist lie

you lose again George the tragic error is that the US did not inform Israel that it had sent a ship right smack into the middle of an arena of war

You're on the wrong side of History on this one, Hasbara.

Israel knew Liberty was a US ship three hours before your unmarked jets began their attack:

"Throughout the remainder of the day prior to the attack, Israeli reconnaissance aircraft regularly flew out to USS Liberty's position and orbited the ship before returning to their bases in Israel. A total of no fewer than eight (8) such flights were made.[13]

"At approximately 1050 hours, the naval observer from the early morning reconnaissance flight arrived at Israeli air force HQ and sat down with the air-naval liaison officer there. The two officers consulted Jane's Fighting Ships and learned that the ship reported earlier in the day was USS Liberty, a United States Navy technical research ship..."

"At 1400 hours, while approximately 17 miles off the Gaza coast, USS Liberty's crew observed three surface radar contacts closing with their position at high speed. A few moments later, the bridge radar crew observed high speed aircraft passing over the surface returns on the same heading.[16]

"Within a few short moments, and without any warning, Israeli fighter aircraft launched a rocket attack on USS Liberty. The aircraft made repeated firing passes, attacking USS Liberty with rockets and their internal cannons. After the first flight of fighter aircraft had exhausted their ordnance, subsequent flights of Israeli fighter aircraft continued to prosecute the attack with rockets, cannon fire, and napalm."

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

Israel didn't STOP the bombing until the heroic torpedo boats arrived.

After firing five torpedoes (4 misses) the three surface craft raked Liberty's decks with thousands of .50 caliber rounds. Israel broke off that attack when the Sixth Fleet radioed in the clear that help was on the way.

BTW, the US doesn't ask permission to sail her military ships in international waters.
Once again, Jews are just not that special.

 

[Roudy]

Curious George the Islamist monkey is ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED over the USS Liberty, but USS Cole, Marine Baracks, and over 16,000 acts of Islamic terror since 9-11, including some on Americans? Eh, who cares. No Jews involved. No Jews, no juice.

sheesh...you have a one track mind...

perhaps, just perhaps, he is as angry about how the incident was handled as much as he is about the incident itself, and that is fair...to seek the justice these dead men deserve.

stop trying to divert and use other dead american sailors and marines to change the focus. god, these are people who put their lives on the line for you everyday but to you they are nothing but fodder.

act like an american for once instead of putting israel first. it was not a case of mistaken identity. hours of observation. a prolonged attack. torpedo boats strafing the hull. what the hell do you think..."uh, there's a shp out there about five klics. bad guys, let's strafe it with a fifty cal." you get close, even with a .50, about 200 meters.

GTR5

just get real.

Ah shadap! All I see is you Jew haters putting Islam and terrorists in front of America.

 

[Roudy]

"Israel acknowledged the following facts without qualification:
a. USS Liberty was an American ship, hence a neutral vis-à-vis the June
1967 war between Israel and its Arab neighbors.
8
b. USS Liberty remained in international waters at all times on June 8, 1967
9
.
c. The attacking Israeli forces never made a positive identification of the nationality of USS Liberty before unleashing deadly force in their attack on
the ship.
10
At approximately 0600 hours (all times local) on the morning of June 8, 1967 an Israeli maritime reconnaissance aircraft observer reported seeing 'a US Navy cargo type
ship,' just outside the coverage of the Israeli coastal radar defense net, bearing the hull
markings 'GTR-5'.
11
"This report, made to Israeli naval HQ, was also forwarded immediately to the Israeli navy intelligence directorate..."

"Throughout the remainder of the day prior to the attack, Israeli reconnaissance aircraft regularly flew out to USS Liberty’s position and orbited the ship before returning to
their bases in Israel. A total of no fewer than eight (8) such flights were made.
13
"At approximately 1050 hours, the naval observer from the early morning reconnaissance flight arrived at Israeli air force HQ and sat down with the air-naval liaison officer
there. The two officers consulted Janes’ Fighting Ships and learned that the ship reported earlier in the day was USS Liberty, a United States Navy technical research
ship..."

"In the instant matter, Israel freely acknowledged that USS Liberty was a neutral ship
in international waters.
57
"Israel also admitted that the attack was deliberate and made
with the intent to sink the ship and crew.
58
"Israel has thus explicitly admitted the essential elements of a violation of Article 1 of the Hague Convention on Naval Warfare. Israel
has further admitted the essential elements required to establish a 'grave breach' as
that term is defined in the Geneva Convention (1949).
The Nürnberg War Crimes Tribunal established certain principles that were later
adopted by all members of the United Nations."

http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf

Again you have said nothing george
"Israel has admitted that the ship was an american ship" Of course it has so admitted----the ship was an american ship and Israel STOPPED bombing it as soon as that fact was confirmed

"the ship stayed in international waters"
Yeah? so did the BIZMARCK

"the objective was to sink the ship" right----and then
Israel realized that the ship was an US ship and did not sink it If israel wanted to sink a US ship ---she would have sunk the USS Liberty

"Israel had no DEFINITE ID ON THE SHIP" when she started the attack" right again George All Israel knew is that it was not an Israeli ship---it was unidentified and it failed to answer HAILS ----which is a fact you and your jihadist friends left out The claim that Israel "JAMMED" the USS LIBERTY communications system turns out to be yet another jihadist lie

you lose again George the tragic error is that the US did not inform Israel that it had sent a ship right smack into the middle of an arena of war

You're on the wrong side of History on this one, Hasbara.

Israel knew Liberty was a US ship three hours before your unmarked jets began their attack:

"Throughout the remainder of the day prior to the attack, Israeli reconnaissance aircraft regularly flew out to USS Liberty's position and orbited the ship before returning to their bases in Israel. A total of no fewer than eight (8) such flights were made.[13]

"At approximately 1050 hours, the naval observer from the early morning reconnaissance flight arrived at Israeli air force HQ and sat down with the air-naval liaison officer there. The two officers consulted Jane's Fighting Ships and learned that the ship reported earlier in the day was USS Liberty, a United States Navy technical research ship..."

"At 1400 hours, while approximately 17 miles off the Gaza coast, USS Liberty's crew observed three surface radar contacts closing with their position at high speed. A few moments later, the bridge radar crew observed high speed aircraft passing over the surface returns on the same heading.[16]

"Within a few short moments, and without any warning, Israeli fighter aircraft launched a rocket attack on USS Liberty. The aircraft made repeated firing passes, attacking USS Liberty with rockets and their internal cannons. After the first flight of fighter aircraft had exhausted their ordnance, subsequent flights of Israeli fighter aircraft continued to prosecute the attack with rockets, cannon fire, and napalm."

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

Israel didn't STOP the bombing until the heroic torpedo boats arrived.

After firing five torpedoes (4 misses) the three surface craft raked Liberty's decks with thousands of .50 caliber rounds. Israel broke off that attack when the Sixth Fleet radioed in the clear that help was on the way.

BTW, the US doesn't ask permission to sail her military ships in international waters.
Once again, Jews are just not that special.

Hey Abdul, that's what you're supposed to do, when you sink a ship. duh!

 

[Roudy]

Have you ever served in the military george? I have----in fact I was involved in ---INVESTIGATIONS RELATED TO INJURIES---------sustained in war-------and----in general --as in training etc etc The claim of a sailor UNDER FIRE as to the INTENTION of the people doing the shooting-------is-----I can assure you------not reliable No one hit with a bomb says I LOVE THAT GUY ANYWAY---IT WAS A MISTAKE No one hit by a car says that either

I think George specialized in "bathroom stall services" while in the military. His sucking noises could be heard all over the camp.

 

[Roudy]

reabhloideach says, "That fuckin' Israel. When we politely ask them to just lie down and die, they REFUSE! Those arrogant willful stubborn bastards! Those Joooooz!"

And when he says it, being the fucking moron that he is, he actually means it!

Hah! That was both funny and correct!

 

[Billo_Really]

After firing five torpedoes (4 misses) the three surface craft raked Liberty's decks with thousands of .50 caliber rounds. Israel broke off that attack when the Sixth Fleet radioed in the clear that help was on the way.

The only thing that saved Israel's ass from a severe ass kicking, was that LBJ thought it might have been the Soviets who launched the attack.

 

[Billo_Really]

Hey Abdul, that's what you're supposed to do, when you sink a ship. duh!

If I was president then, I wouldn't of called the F4's back.

 

[docmauser1]

Israel knew Liberty was a US ship three hours before your unmarked jets began their attack:

Unmarked martian batmen conspiracy, of course. Oh, and bth., leutenant Ennes wrote in his book "McGonagle must have been mistaken about sighting the Israeli flag at this point in the attack. For one thing, it would have been practically impossible to identify a tiny and wildly fluttering Star of David a mile away, particularly since any flags displayed by the torpedo boats would have streamed back, away from McGonagle and out of his line of sight.". Hilarious. When are those individuals getting their story straight?

 

[georgephillip]

Have you ever served in the military george? I have----in fact I was involved in ---INVESTIGATIONS RELATED TO INJURIES---------sustained in war-------and----in general --as in training etc etc The claim of a sailor UNDER FIRE as to the INTENTION of the people doing the shooting-------is-----I can assure you------not reliable No one hit with a bomb says I LOVE THAT GUY ANYWAY---IT WAS A MISTAKE No one hit by a car says that either

Which military did you serve in, rosie?
My "service" consisted of ten days in the USAF before escaping with a medical discharge.

At least eight Israeli reconnaissance flights orbited Liberty prior the the initial attack.
One plane came so close its pilot and Liberty's crew exchanged waves.
There is not a single Liberty survivor who doubts the attack was deliberate.

What would you infer if you watched your attackers machine-gun inflatable life rafts?

 

[georgephillip]

After firing five torpedoes (4 misses) the three surface craft raked Liberty's decks with thousands of .50 caliber rounds. Israel broke off that attack when the Sixth Fleet radioed in the clear that help was on the way.

The only thing that saved Israel's ass from a severe ass kicking, was that LBJ thought it might have been the Soviets who launched the attack.

Unless LBJ ordered the attack.
Suppose Liberty had gone down with all hands and Egypt got the blame?
Would we not own Egypt's oil today...

 

[Billo_Really]

Unless LBJ ordered the attack.
Suppose Liberty had gone down with all hands and Egypt got the blame?
Would we not own Egypt's oil today...

You think LBJ would really do that?

I mean, it's not like the Gulf of Tonkin.