It's what socialism does...

[Moonglow]

Yet the USA is not a socialist nation..

Yes it is, just bought off and brain washed by the greedy idiot megarich of the GOP.

"We're all socialists now!" Finland PM when O-Care passed.

But the ACA is not socialism...

Sure it is, gov't regulated and set up- just a bought off GOP version, like the rest of our system.

Nope, it's a govt. mandate operated by the private enterprises and corporations in the USA...

 

[francoHFW]

US debt was not caused by socialism. It was caused by Republicans relentlessly increasing military spending,

and starting unnecessary wars that they refused to pay for.

You know, three of the top presidents who put us the furthest in debt are Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Barack Obama(Who isn't even done yet). I'm not quite sure how you can possibly tell us it wasn't caused by Socialism. I'd mention Carter, but he wasn't Socialist(That I know of), just overflowing with ineptitude.
Barack Obama: $6.494 trillion
Franklin Roosevelt: $236 billion
Woodrow Wilson: $21 billion(727% increase over what it was)[/QUOTE]
Reagan and W doubled and tripled the debt in "good times" the champs at debt and growing the gov't, dupe. 80-90% of Obama's is reaction to W world depression duh.

 

[Rustic]

Lol
America is far more socialist than it is anything else...

And if that makes you cry that's the icing on the cake.

Just another to add to long list socialistic failures...
The us deserves to fail when it takes on socialist entitlement programs that can't sustain themselves and debt it has no intention to pay back...
Socialism and overwhelming debt are the only two ingredients needed for the makings of a banana republic.
Lol

US debt was not caused by socialism. It was caused by Republicans relentlessly increasing military spending,

and starting unnecessary wars that they refused to pay for.

Wrong silly boy, amount of government waste, fraud and abuse of socialist entitlement programs put every other expenditure to shame... You should look as a pie chart sometime.

Sure, dupe. That Booooshie depression only cost 5 trillion in that waste. Waste is negligible unless you're a total GOP dupe.

Deflection noted

 

[Slyhunter]

There is a sector next to Panama called the Free Zone. No cops there. Lots of people selling Gold with body guards. Closest thing I know of where no Government interference of individual lives.

Colón Free Trade Zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bring your own Army.

 

[francoHFW]

Yet the USA is not a socialist nation..

Yes it is, just bought off and brain washed by the greedy idiot megarich of the GOP.

"We're all socialists now!" Finland PM when O-Care passed.

But the ACA is not socialism...

Sure it is, gov't regulated and set up- just a bought off GOP version, like the rest of our system.

Nope, it's a govt. mandate operated by the private enterprises and corporations in the USA...

That's socialism. GOP style. USA style. Dutch/Swiss style. Will only get more socialist as gov't regulates less and less profit...

 

[francoHFW]

And if that makes you cry that's the icing on the cake.

Just another to add to long list socialistic failures...
The us deserves to fail when it takes on socialist entitlement programs that can't sustain themselves and debt it has no intention to pay back...
Socialism and overwhelming debt are the only two ingredients needed for the makings of a banana republic.
Lol

US debt was not caused by socialism. It was caused by Republicans relentlessly increasing military spending,

and starting unnecessary wars that they refused to pay for.

Wrong silly boy, amount of government waste, fraud and abuse of socialist entitlement programs put every other expenditure to shame... You should look as a pie chart sometime.

Sure, dupe. That Booooshie depression only cost 5 trillion in that waste. Waste is negligible unless you're a total GOP dupe.

Deflection noted

What you call waste is necessary in our unjust GOP system to make life possible for many, and helps a great deal to restore the economy when your GOP heroes wreck it AGAIN.

You seem to think socialism is communist. WRONG.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Reagan and W doubled and tripled the debt in "good times" the champs at debt and growing the gov't, dupe. 80-90% of Obama's is reaction to W world depression duh.

They are IN the top, yes, but a big difference is that the three I mentioned created or extended those bad times with their Socialism and racked up some of the highest debt we've ever seen. Franklin Roosevelt extended the Great Depression by 7 years, through business regulation, compulsory unionism, social programs, until the war got us out of the Depression. Some of his policies are still destroying the economy today. Woodrow Wilson destroyed the economy, luckily World War 1 made it bearable. Obama has been causing massive job loss, making the damage from 9/11 even worse, and making businesses leave the country due to over regulation and massive tax rates on employees.

 

[francoHFW]

Reagan and W doubled and tripled the debt in "good times" the champs at debt and growing the gov't, dupe. 80-90% of Obama's is reaction to W world depression duh.

They are IN the top, yes, but a big difference is that the three I mentioned created or extended those bad times with their Socialism and racked up some of the highest debt we've ever seen. Franklin Roosevelt extended the Great Depression by 7 years, through business regulation, compulsory unionism, social programs, until the war got us out of the Depression. Some of his policies are still destroying the economy today. Woodrow Wilson destroyed the economy, luckily World War 1 made it bearable. Obama has been causing massive job loss, making the damage from 9/11 even worse, and making businesses leave the country due to over regulation and massive tax rates on employees.

BS. Obama hasn't changed any laws, this is just the continuation of Reaganism killing the middle class and the country, even during 80 months straight of growth. But thanks for the corrupt deregulation GOP World Depressions, dupe.

 

[Political Junky]

What non socialist country should we strive to be ? Brazil , Yemen?

Brazil is quite socialist, and so is Yemen.

And North Korea is a Republic.

 

[bripat9643]

What non socialist country should we strive to be ? Brazil , Yemen?

Brazil is quite socialist, and so is Yemen.

And North Korea is a Republic.

No it's not.

 

[francoHFW]

WW destroyed the economy. That's a new one lol. I'm betting your knowledge is that of a parrot.

 

[Political Junky]

What non socialist country should we strive to be ? Brazil , Yemen?

Brazil is quite socialist, and so is Yemen.

And North Korea is a Republic.

No it's not.

North Korea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Area controlled by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea shown in green
See map

 

[bripat9643]

What non socialist country should we strive to be ? Brazil , Yemen?

Brazil is quite socialist, and so is Yemen.

And North Korea is a Republic.

No it's not.

North Korea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Area controlled by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea shown in green
See map

Your point?

 

[kiwiman127]

Failing for a hundred years ?

More so recently than before, a VERY long time, we had the strongest economy in the world. Despite the socialist policies implemented by Obama, we may still have the strongest economy.

GREED leading to income inequality is what is causing America to fail. It's pretty much an open and shut case, well except for the easily duped.
Standard & Poor's Global Credit Portal
Income Inequality Is What's Destroying America
Inequality is now killing middle America

 

[Pumpkin Row]

BS. Obama hasn't changed any laws, this is just the continuation of Reaganism killing the middle class and the country, even during 80 months straight of growth. But thanks for the corrupt deregulation GOP World Depressions, dupe.

Actually, he's made enough executive orders to make Franklin Roosevelt blush. Obamacare being one of those executive orders.

Here you go, since you apparently pay no attention.

I'd also like to point out that the 'growth' is a myth.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx
Here's the Missing Worker Rate, too. http://Here's the Missing Worker Rate, too.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx
Here's the true Unemployment Rate.

We've been losing jobs left and right, and businesses have been leaving the country. I don't really expect someone who thinks regulating businesses promotes hiring to know how the private sector, and economy as a whole, works.

Also: Executive orders signed by Obama, since you think he hasn't passed/changed any laws

 

[Ridgerunner]

Reagan and W doubled and tripled the debt in "good times" the champs at debt and growing the gov't, dupe. 80-90% of Obama's is reaction to W world depression duh.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

GREED leading to income inequality is what is causing America to fail. It's pretty much an open and shut case, well except for the easily duped.
Standard & Poor's Global Credit Portal
Income Inequality Is What's Destroying America
Inequality is now killing middle America

You know, that's cute, that's really cute. Actually, I think I'll just go ahead and explain part of how the economy works.

When a person creates a business, it becomes successful because there's a demand for the goods or services that it offers. The price of said goods or services is slightly more than what it costs to provide them, and enough to cover upkeep of that business. By buying supplies from a supplier, that supplier also grows. As these two businesses grow, they hire employees to run those businesses. The more the business expands, the more employees they can and need to hire. Soon, they expand by building a chain, which allows them to provide that good or service in other areas, and also causes them to hire more employees in that area. Pretty soon, if they're successful, they become a country-wide, then global business, not only supplying jobs in America, but also in other countries.

Interestingly, they actually HAVE to give their employees a living wage, or they won't have a consumer base for their good or service, so the government doesn't even have to mandate that. That's why roughly .3% of America is on Minimum Wage.

With all of that explained, that brings me to what happens when you regulate or tax businesses. When you try or succeed in taking money from a business, they either cut employees or increase the cost of living in the area, since it effects every business. Want higher minimum wage? Ask California(Highest cost of living areas) how that's working out. Want to tax a business per employee? Look at the Labor Force Participation Rate.

 

[kiwiman127]

GREED leading to income inequality is what is causing America to fail. It's pretty much an open and shut case, well except for the easily duped.
Standard & Poor's Global Credit Portal
Income Inequality Is What's Destroying America
Inequality is now killing middle America

You know, that's cute, that's really cute. Actually, I think I'll just go ahead and explain part of how the economy works.

When a person creates a business, it becomes successful because there's a demand for the goods or services that it offers. The price of said goods or services is slightly more than what it costs to provide them, and enough to cover upkeep of that business. By buying supplies from a supplier, that supplier also grows. As these two businesses grow, they hire employees to run those businesses. The more the business expands, the more employees they can and need to hire. Soon, they expand by building a chain, which allows them to provide that good or service in other areas, and also causes them to hire more employees in that area. Pretty soon, if they're successful, they become a country-wide, then global business, not only supplying jobs in America, but also in other countries.

Interestingly, they actually HAVE to give their employees a living wage, or they won't have a consumer base for their good or service, so the government doesn't even have to mandate that. That's why roughly .3% of America is on Minimum Wage.

With all of that explained, that brings me to what happens when you regulate or tax businesses. When you try or succeed in taking money from a business, they either cut employees or increase the cost of living in the area, since it effects every business. Want higher minimum wage? Ask California(Highest cost of living areas) how that's working out. Want to tax a business per employee? Look at the Labor Force Participation Rate.

So, that is your retort to Standard & Poors, Forbes, additionally the OCED and The World Bank which bases their reports on hard factual data?
http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTPOVERTY/Resources/WDR/Background/rodriguez.pdf
Inequality hurts economic growth, finds OECD research - OECD

 

[Pumpkin Row]

So, that is your retort to Standard & Poors, Forbes, additionally the OCED and The World Bank which bases their reports on hard factual data?
http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTPOVERTY/Resources/WDR/Background/rodriguez.pdf
Inequality hurts economic growth, finds OECD research - OECD

It's funny, partly because one of the links only repeated itself several times, then cited two inferior countries as evidence, and 12 pages of explaining why people being poor is bad. You know, if Democrats really wanted to help the poor, they'd make sure that there were jobs for them, rather than stomping out said jobs through massive business tax rates and regulations that prevent hiring and expansion.

 

[deltex1]

People on the Right think socialism appeared out of nowhere for no reason.

There has always been a tendency among the weak willed to look to others for their salvation, rather than rely on themselves.