Ivanka tried desperately to get trump to call of the mob on January 6th

[playtime]

Bullshit. A VP or President cannot override military protocol.

donny is the commander in chief of the military; - of course he could. he chose not to, so the next in line did.
Mike Pence, Not Donald Trump, Called in National Guard as Mob Attacked US Capitol

Mike Pence, Not Donald Trump, Called in National Guard as Mob Attacked US Capitol - News18

Mike Pence played a key role in coordinating with the Pentagon about deploying them, and urged them to move faster than they were.

www.news18.com

Pence may have called but their arrival was coincidental when they were actually allowed to be deployed.

nope.

Need another link that clearly states it was the Pentagon that refused to send in more support?

Former acting defense secretary testifies he was trying to avoid another Kent State on Jan. 6​

He said he wanted to avoid fanning fears of a military coup or martial law.
ByBeatrice Peterson andMorgan Winsor
May 12, 2021, 6:15 PM
• 11 min read


But in response to questioning from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., Miller admitted that he did not approve an operational plan to deploy the National Guard to the Capitol until 4:32 p.m., more than three hours after he first learned that demonstrators had breached the Capitol perimeter. The National Guard did not arrive at the Capitol for another hour, at nearly 5:30 p.m.

Miller testified that during the insurrection he did not speak with former President Donald Trump.
Former acting defense secretary testifies he was trying to avoid another Kent State on Jan. 6


how you gonna spin that, ray ray?

 

[Indeependent]

donny is the commander in chief of the military; - of course he could. he chose not to, so the next in line did.
Mike Pence, Not Donald Trump, Called in National Guard as Mob Attacked US Capitol

Mike Pence, Not Donald Trump, Called in National Guard as Mob Attacked US Capitol - News18

Mike Pence played a key role in coordinating with the Pentagon about deploying them, and urged them to move faster than they were.

www.news18.com

nope.

Former acting defense secretary testifies he was trying to avoid another Kent State on Jan. 6​

He said he wanted to avoid fanning fears of a military coup or martial law.
ByBeatrice Peterson andMorgan Winsor
May 12, 2021, 6:15 PM
• 11 min read


But in response to questioning from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., Miller admitted that he did not approve an operational plan to deploy the National Guard to the Capitol until 4:32 p.m., more than three hours after he first learned that demonstrators had breached the Capitol perimeter. The National Guard did not arrive at the Capitol for another hour, at nearly 5:30 p.m.

Miller testified that during the insurrection he did not speak with former President Donald Trump.
Former acting defense secretary testifies he was trying to avoid another Kent State on Jan. 6


how you gonna spin that, ray ray?

Kent State when no security was being called upon?
Are you retarded?

 

[playtime]

Kent State when no security was being called upon?
Are you retarded?

ask the 'acting' DOD secretary dude, who replaced esper just a few days after the election when donny was a lame duck & who gave that as the reason.

lol ....

this was being planned long b4 jan 6th & i'm sure esper - who was inside donny's orbit gave all kindsa tasty intel tidbits 'bout what was going down & who said what to whom.

 

[BWK]

uh - noooooo.... YOU lose. the NG were on buses waiting to roll when given the word - now read this part slowly:


THEY


WERE


NEVER


GIVEN


THE


GO AHEAD

UNTIL

3 HOURS LATER.

General: Pentagon hesitated on sending Guard to Capitol riot​

By ERIC TUCKER and MARY CLARE JALONICKMarch 3, 2021

General: Pentagon hesitated on sending Guard to Capitol riot​

By ERIC TUCKER and MARY CLARE JALONICKMarch 3, 2021



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Commanding General District of Columbia National Guard Major General William J. Walker testifies before a Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and Senate Committee on Rules and Administration joint hearing examining the January 6, attack on the U.S. Capitol, Wednesday, March 3, 2021, in Washington. (Shawn Thew/Pool via /AP)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Department leaders placed unusual restrictions on the National Guard for the day of the Capitol riot and delayed sending help for hours despite an urgent plea from police for reinforcement, according to testimony Wednesday that added to the finger-pointing about the government response.
Maj. Gen. William Walker, commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard, told senators that the then-chief of the Capitol Police requested military support in a “voice cracking with emotion” in a 1:49 p.m. call as rioters began pushing toward the Capitol. Walker said he immediately relayed the request to the Army but did not learn until after 5 p.m. that the Defense Department had approved it. Guard troops who had been waiting on buses were then rushed to the Capitol, arriving in 18 minutes, Walker said.

General: Pentagon hesitated on sending Guard to Capitol riot | AP News

AS SOON AS THEY WERE GIVEN THE ORDERS....

THEY WERE THERE IN 18 MINUTES.

there was no red tape getting in the way
ray ray ...

just an orange treasonous pie hole

Where the hell is Ray?

 

[Indeependent]

ask the 'acting' DOD secretary dude, who replaced esper just a few days after the election when donny was a lame duck & who gave that as the reason.

lol ....

this was being planned long b4 jan 6th & i'm sure esper - who was inside donny's orbit gave all kindsa tasty intel tidbits 'bout what was going down & who said what to whom.

No security on Capitol Hill…hmmmmm….

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

donny is the commander in chief of the military; - of course he could. he chose not to, so the next in line did.

how you gonna spin that, ray ray?

This is how. From Newsweek:

When D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser asked for the assistance of the D.C. National Guard (DCNG) earlier in the week, the troops were approved only for crowd and traffic control. The Pentagon prohibited troops from: receiving ammunition or riot gear; interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense; sharing equipment with local law enforcement; or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary's explicit sign-off, according to The Washington Post.

According to the Department of Defense, once the protest turned more violent, Bowser requested more assistance and Secretary Miller "immediately called up 1,200 members of the D.C. National Guard."

However, multiple reports show that the Pentagon refused authorization of additional National Guard support after rioters broke into the Capitol.

The District of Columbia City Council said Bowser's request to expand the responsibility of the DCNG so they could help protect the Capitol was denied.

Fact Check: Did Trump Call in National Guard After Rioters Stormed Capitol?

After President Trump claimed he directed the National Guard for immediate deployment after the Capitol Building raid, several reports point to Vice President Pence as the lead White House orchestrater.

www.newsweek.com

It's not and never was Trump's fault. You leftists watch too many television movies and think it's reality. He put Miller in charge long before the protests or riots broke out.

 

[rightnow909]

Any proof President Trump was in contact with anyone at the Capitol? He told everyone to go home before.

Everyone there were led by FBI informants and Antifa LARPers.

yeh, i think this story is bs

Trump didn't do anything wrong... Most the people there did not..

just more fake newss imo

 

[playtime]

This is how. From Newsweek:

When D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser asked for the assistance of the D.C. National Guard (DCNG) earlier in the week, the troops were approved only for crowd and traffic control. The Pentagon prohibited troops from: receiving ammunition or riot gear; interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense; sharing equipment with local law enforcement; or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary's explicit sign-off, according to The Washington Post.

According to the Department of Defense, once the protest turned more violent, Bowser requested more assistance and Secretary Miller "immediately called up 1,200 members of the D.C. National Guard."

However, multiple reports show that the Pentagon refused authorization of additional National Guard support after rioters broke into the Capitol.

The District of Columbia City Council said Bowser's request to expand the responsibility of the DCNG so they could help protect the Capitol was denied.

Fact Check: Did Trump Call in National Guard After Rioters Stormed Capitol?

After President Trump claimed he directed the National Guard for immediate deployment after the Capitol Building raid, several reports point to Vice President Pence as the lead White House orchestrater.

www.newsweek.com

It's not and never was Trump's fault. You leftists watch too many television movies and think it's reality. He put Miller in charge long before the protests or riots broke out.

why is everyone starting to plead the fifth re: their involvement with jan. 6th, ray ray?

Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say​

The context for the message is unclear, but it comes amid intense scrutiny of the Guard’s slow response to violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 and conflicting timelines about their efforts from the Pentagon and National Guard leadership.
Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say

DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol​

Walker calls restrictions on his ability to deploy his force ‘unusual’​

Scores of District of Columbia National Guardsmen loaded on buses at the Washington Armory and were ready to deploy as pro-Trump rioters breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, but minutes turned into hours as they awaited permission from the Pentagon to move out.

Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commander of the D.C. National Guard, told lawmakers Wednesday that written instructions issued ahead of the insurrection from then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy limited his ability to deploy his troops where, as a commander, he felt they were needed.

On Jan. 6, Walker and top officials from the U.S. Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department pleaded for permission to send the National Guard to help secure the Capitol during a phone call around 2:22 p.m. with defense officials. But Walker said he didn’t receive the go-ahead to send his troops to the Capitol until just after 5 p.m.

Because the District of Columbia is not a state and thus does not have a governor, the president is the commander in chief of the D.C. National Guard. The chain of command runs down to the Defense secretary and the Army secretary.

‘Unusual’ restrictions​

McCarthy’s written instructions from Jan. 5 required Walker to seek specific permission to deploy a 40-member quick reaction team. McCarthy also required Walker to send him a “concept of operation” before that team could be used.

“Based on the Defense Department’s public timeline, once requested, it took the National Guard over three hours to arrive at the Capitol. Now remember, we were all watching this on CNN, and Fox and MSNBC, and it’s a riot,” the Ohio Republican said. “We need to know why the Pentagon took so long to deploy the National Guard.”
DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

why is everyone starting to plead the fifth re: their involvement with jan. 6th, ray ray?

Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say​

The context for the message is unclear, but it comes amid intense scrutiny of the Guard’s slow response to violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 and conflicting timelines about their efforts from the Pentagon and National Guard leadership.
Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say

DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol​

Walker calls restrictions on his ability to deploy his force ‘unusual’​

Scores of District of Columbia National Guardsmen loaded on buses at the Washington Armory and were ready to deploy as pro-Trump rioters breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, but minutes turned into hours as they awaited permission from the Pentagon to move out.

Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commander of the D.C. National Guard, told lawmakers Wednesday that written instructions issued ahead of the insurrection from then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy limited his ability to deploy his troops where, as a commander, he felt they were needed.

On Jan. 6, Walker and top officials from the U.S. Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department pleaded for permission to send the National Guard to help secure the Capitol during a phone call around 2:22 p.m. with defense officials. But Walker said he didn’t receive the go-ahead to send his troops to the Capitol until just after 5 p.m.

Because the District of Columbia is not a state and thus does not have a governor, the president is the commander in chief of the D.C. National Guard. The chain of command runs down to the Defense secretary and the Army secretary.

‘Unusual’ restrictions​

McCarthy’s written instructions from Jan. 5 required Walker to seek specific permission to deploy a 40-member quick reaction team. McCarthy also required Walker to send him a “concept of operation” before that team could be used.

“Based on the Defense Department’s public timeline, once requested, it took the National Guard over three hours to arrive at the Capitol. Now remember, we were all watching this on CNN, and Fox and MSNBC, and it’s a riot,” the Ohio Republican said. “We need to know why the Pentagon took so long to deploy the National Guard.”
DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol

I don't know what you think you're debating because both our sources coincide. Trump put Miller in charge to dispatch the NG in the event trouble started which he did immediately. As I stated earlier, a President has no power to bypass protocol. He insisted on sending the Guard and the Pentigon refused to comply until they did their little red tape thing.

When Republicans takeover in 2022 it will all be looked into. It can't be looked into now because their only focus (along with yours) is to try and see how the commies can try to blame Trump--not what happened and how to fix it. When we get in, we will look into the matter and fix it so it doesn't happen again. In the meantime, Trump is the greatest fear the Communists ever had so all they are concerned about is trying to make him look bad for something that wasn't his fault.

 

[BWK]

I don't know what you think you're debating because both our sources coincide. Trump put Miller in charge to dispatch the NG in the event trouble started which he did immediately. As I stated earlier, a President has no power to bypass protocol. He insisted on sending the Guard and the Pentigon refused to comply until they did their little red tape thing.

When Republicans takeover in 2022 it will all be looked into. It can't be looked into now because their only focus (along with yours) is to try and see how the commies can try to blame Trump--not what happened and how to fix it. When we get in, we will look into the matter and fix it so it doesn't happen again. In the meantime, Trump is the greatest fear the Communists ever had so all they are concerned about is trying to make him look bad for something that wasn't his fault.

We already have documented evidence that Trump and his butt boys were trying to stage a coup. We will draw conclusions way before 2022. The information points to Trump, not some made up accusation, just to blame Trump.

And what is with all this stupid talk about Communists? You really do not know what the word means.

 

[BWK]

The entire situation changed so he lied? That's not lying. Lying is saying something like "I will never initiate any mandates for the vaccine" and then putting in place mandates for the vaccine. See, that's lying.



Yes, I know, you leftists with your crystal balls again.

"The situation changed alright More like already arranged at an undisclosed location with TVs, music, family members who just happened to drop by, and dancing bimbos; US Capitol riots: Footage of the Trumps celebrating at rally before riots - NZ Herald What a bunch of disgusting trash.

 

[BWK]

How long did you have to search to find a Link that suited your needs?

Not as long as it's going to take to find one that suits yours.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We already have documented evidence that Trump and his butt boys were trying to stage a coup. We will draw conclusions way before 2022. The information points to Trump, not some made up accusation, just to blame Trump.

And what is with all this stupid talk about Communists? You really do not know what the word means.

Democrats are Communist. Don't believe me, just go to the US Communist Party website and read their agenda. You'll find very few differences between theirs and the Democrat party. Then do a search on what they had to say about presidential candidates like DumBama, Hillary, Sanders, and then look up what they had to say about Republican contenders. It's clear who they support.

You see if the devil ever comes for your soul, he will not have a tail with an arrowhead end. He will not have horns or breathe fire. He will be a well dressed man, somewhat coy, very intelligent, and certainly not tell you why he came. By the time the Democrats tell you that we are a communist country, we will have already been for years. People like you are like the frog on top of the stove happily swimming in a pot of cold water.

Now if you don't want to take the time to research it, you can sit back and watch this video. It's of the Mark Levin show. In his monologue he reads the top ten methods for taking over this country out of the Communist manifesto and compares that to what the Democrats are doing today. Then he reads out of the Declaration of Independents and how they are going against what was written there. It's only about ten minutes and you'll finally understand why the Democrats are the anti-white party today.

'Life, Liberty & Levin' on threat Democrats pose to Declaration of Independence

Guests: Kash Patel, Joe Concha

www.foxnews.com

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

"The situation changed alright More like already arranged at an undisclosed location with TVs, music, family members who just happened to drop by, and dancing bimbos; US Capitol riots: Footage of the Trumps celebrating at rally before riots - NZ Herald What a bunch of disgusting trash.

And this has to do with what?????

 

[BWK]

This is how. From Newsweek:

When D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser asked for the assistance of the D.C. National Guard (DCNG) earlier in the week, the troops were approved only for crowd and traffic control. The Pentagon prohibited troops from: receiving ammunition or riot gear; interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense; sharing equipment with local law enforcement; or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretary's explicit sign-off, according to The Washington Post.

According to the Department of Defense, once the protest turned more violent, Bowser requested more assistance and Secretary Miller "immediately called up 1,200 members of the D.C. National Guard."

However, multiple reports show that the Pentagon refused authorization of additional National Guard support after rioters broke into the Capitol.

The District of Columbia City Council said Bowser's request to expand the responsibility of the DCNG so they could help protect the Capitol was denied.

Fact Check: Did Trump Call in National Guard After Rioters Stormed Capitol?

After President Trump claimed he directed the National Guard for immediate deployment after the Capitol Building raid, several reports point to Vice President Pence as the lead White House orchestrater.

www.newsweek.com

It's not and never was Trump's fault. You leftists watch too many television movies and think it's reality. He put Miller in charge long before the protests or riots broke out.

Let me tell you something there hot shot, when a guy has a make shift area like a tent set up with television, music, family, butt boys, and dancing bimbos, set up like a party, physically watching this, and doing nothing for 187 minutes, no one is to blame more than Trump. And your lame argument, which by the way says nothing at all, is never going to fly. This is 100% Trumps fault. Period! And nothing you say will ever change that.

 

[BWK]

And this has to do with what?????

Dude, don't you get it? It has everything to do with it. It tells us everything we need to know about who's fault this was. How did Jr. the daughter, the bimbos, and his butt boys know where to go after the speech, and where they could watch the riot? My God man, please tell us all you aren't being eaten alive with stupid, that you can't figure that out for yourself? That facility didn't just magically appear. Someone, namely Trump and all his pos minions were told before hand where to go, and that tent was set up way before the speech. So, they knew exactly what was going to happen, and Jr. himself who is dumb as shit, informed us why they were in the tent. He called them awesome patriots who were tired of the bs. What bs? The fact that Trump lost, and he was letting loose his idiot drones to attack the Capitol. And also, please tell us you are not so stupid, that Trump didn't see the crowd wearing helmets, vests, carrying radios, and other such attack gear during his speech? Answer, he saw everything, and knew exactly what they were going to do.

 

[BWK]

Democrats are Communist. Don't believe me, just go to the US Communist Party website and read their agenda. You'll find very few differences between theirs and the Democrat party. Then do a search on what they had to say about presidential candidates like DumBama, Hillary, Sanders, and then look up what they had to say about Republican contenders. It's clear who they support.

You see if the devil ever comes for your soul, he will not have a tail with an arrowhead end. He will not have horns or breathe fire. He will be a well dressed man, somewhat coy, very intelligent, and certainly not tell you why he came. By the time the Democrats tell you that we are a communist country, we will have already been for years. People like you are like the frog on top of the stove happily swimming in a pot of cold water.

Now if you don't want to take the time to research it, you can sit back and watch this video. It's of the Mark Levin show. In his monologue he reads the top ten methods for taking over this country out of the Communist manifesto and compares that to what the Democrats are doing today. Then he reads out of the Declaration of Independents and how they are going against what was written there. It's only about ten minutes and you'll finally understand why the Democrats are the anti-white party today.

'Life, Liberty & Levin' on threat Democrats pose to Declaration of Independence

Guests: Kash Patel, Joe Concha

www.foxnews.com

I've been to a communist website, and there is nothing on that site that has anything to do with the Democrat party. That's your fantasy.

And by the way, you have not given us one policy agenda by the communists that the Democrats would go along with. Have you noticed that?

And have you noticed, that two thirds of your post you are talking out of your ass and looking crazy? The devil, my soul, breathing fire? Are you mentally okay? Seriously?

 

[BWK]

Democrats are Communist. Don't believe me, just go to the US Communist Party website and read their agenda. You'll find very few differences between theirs and the Democrat party. Then do a search on what they had to say about presidential candidates like DumBama, Hillary, Sanders, and then look up what they had to say about Republican contenders. It's clear who they support.

You see if the devil ever comes for your soul, he will not have a tail with an arrowhead end. He will not have horns or breathe fire. He will be a well dressed man, somewhat coy, very intelligent, and certainly not tell you why he came. By the time the Democrats tell you that we are a communist country, we will have already been for years. People like you are like the frog on top of the stove happily swimming in a pot of cold water.

Now if you don't want to take the time to research it, you can sit back and watch this video. It's of the Mark Levin show. In his monologue he reads the top ten methods for taking over this country out of the Communist manifesto and compares that to what the Democrats are doing today. Then he reads out of the Declaration of Independents and how they are going against what was written there. It's only about ten minutes and you'll finally understand why the Democrats are the anti-white party today.

'Life, Liberty & Levin' on threat Democrats pose to Declaration of Independence

Guests: Kash Patel, Joe Concha

www.foxnews.com

Democrats are Communist. Don't believe me, just go to the US Communist Party website and read their agenda. You'll find very few differences between theirs and the Democrat party. Then do a search on what they had to say about presidential candidates like DumBama, Hillary, Sanders, and then look up what they had to say about Republican contenders. It's clear who they support.

You see if the devil ever comes for your soul, he will not have a tail with an arrowhead end. He will not have horns or breathe fire. He will be a well dressed man, somewhat coy, very intelligent, and certainly not tell you why he came. By the time the Democrats tell you that we are a communist country, we will have already been for years. People like you are like the frog on top of the stove happily swimming in a pot of cold water.

Now if you don't want to take the time to research it, you can sit back and watch this video. It's of the Mark Levin show. In his monologue he reads the top ten methods for taking over this country out of the Communist manifesto and compares that to what the Democrats are doing today. Then he reads out of the Declaration of Independents and how they are going against what was written there. It's only about ten minutes and you'll finally understand why the Democrats are the anti-white party today. I watched some of that video until I felt I was going to puke over repetitious gobbly goo. It's the same gobbly goo I'm quoting you with from your previous post. Everything is repetitive, ranting, and totally uninformative. That monologue by Levin, literally said nothing. He said nothing, and your post has done the same thing.

And the take away from all this saying nothing, and spending countless minutes doing so, tells us one important thing. That the once Republican party is no more, when all they do is invest countless minutes and hours pretending to make intelligent points, when really, all they say is nothing. And your post is exhibit A of someone who said absolutely nothing. The devil, soul, horns, breathe fire, frogs, etc. This literally needs to be sent to Comedy Central. It's absolute 100% gobbly goo crazy talk.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Democrats are Communist. Don't believe me, just go to the US Communist Party website and read their agenda. You'll find very few differences between theirs and the Democrat party. Then do a search on what they had to say about presidential candidates like DumBama, Hillary, Sanders, and then look up what they had to say about Republican contenders. It's clear who they support.

You see if the devil ever comes for your soul, he will not have a tail with an arrowhead end. He will not have horns or breathe fire. He will be a well dressed man, somewhat coy, very intelligent, and certainly not tell you why he came. By the time the Democrats tell you that we are a communist country, we will have already been for years. People like you are like the frog on top of the stove happily swimming in a pot of cold water.

Now if you don't want to take the time to research it, you can sit back and watch this video. It's of the Mark Levin show. In his monologue he reads the top ten methods for taking over this country out of the Communist manifesto and compares that to what the Democrats are doing today. Then he reads out of the Declaration of Independents and how they are going against what was written there. It's only about ten minutes and you'll finally understand why the Democrats are the anti-white party today. I watched some of that video until I felt I was going to puke over repetitious gobbly goo. It's the same gobbly goo I'm quoting you with from your previous post. Everything is repetitive, ranting, and totally uninformative. That monologue by Levin, literally said nothing. He said nothing, and your post has done the same thing.

And the take away from all this saying nothing, and spending countless minutes doing so, tells us one important thing. That the once Republican party is no more, when all they do is invest countless minutes and hours pretending to make intelligent points, when really, all they say is nothing. And your post is exhibit A of someone who said absolutely nothing. The devil, soul, horns, breathe fire, frogs, etc. This literally needs to be sent to Comedy Central. It's absolute 100% gobbly goo crazy talk.

Just by your response I can tell you didn't even go to the site. You liberals like to believe the rest of the world is as stupid as you are.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I've been to a communist website, and there is nothing on that site that has anything to do with the Democrat party. That's your fantasy.

And by the way, you have not given us one policy agenda by the communists that the Democrats would go along with. Have you noticed that?

And have you noticed, that two thirds of your post you are talking out of your ass and looking crazy? The devil, my soul, breathing fire? Are you mentally okay? Seriously?

I told you where to find the similarities. Like the video I posted, you won't even bother.

The left went from Democrat to liberal. From liberal to progressive. From progressives to Socialist/ Democrats, whatever the the hell that is. Do you really think they stopped there and won't continue left? And when they do, where do you think that lands you?