Jan 6 4th hearing thread: Schiff leads today’s hearing on Trump pressuring state officials & the fake electors scheme,+Trump's ranting on Truth Social

This isn't a trial or anything like one. There will be criminal trials at the end of the day, but Trump can't even find a lawyer who will work for him. He's the worst kind of client - never listens to good advice. And he doesn't pay his legal bills.

That's why he only gets second rate lawyers like Rudy Guiliani.
They're trying to pretend it's a trial they even hired an ABC producer. LOL!! The rest of your post is your own supposition couched in hatred for Trump so.....meh
 
Except for all the evidence we have seen and heard. Lots, actually.
You should at least be embarrassed by how easily you believed this half decade of lies against Trump.

It's not the man, it's the MAGA! It will continue with, or without him!
 
You should at least be embarrassed by how easily you believed this half decade of lies against Trump.

It's not the man, it's the MAGA! It will continue with, or without him!
Ah yes, a Trumper through and through

Dances from one embarrassing, delusional, crybaby talking point to another, thinks he actually said something.
 
You should at least be embarrassed by how easily you believed this half decade of lies against Trump.

It's not the man, it's the MAGA! It will continue with, or without him!
That's what these lefties are really afraid of, Making America Great Again is, to them, like a cross to a vampire.
 
Come
Poor dumb Donald. He knew he'd lost but he lied to YOU anyway.

Facts are not "opinions". The fact that Trump lost isn't some nebulous notion with no facts to back it up. If Trump believes he won, it's because he's senile and incompetent.
Come 2024 we'll see just whose damned senile and incompetent, and it won't be Donald Trump. It sure as hell won't be senile Joe as president in 2024 that's for sure.
 
That's what these lefties are really afraid of, Making America Great Again is, to them, like a cross to a vampire.
Yep and why is that ????? If anybody don't know it or can't see it by now then they are the most ignorant human beings on the face of this earth.
 
The OP should be thanking Trump. Without Trump, his life clearly has no meaning.
 
Come

Come 2024 we'll see just whose damned senile and incompetent, and it won't be Donald Trump. It sure as hell won't be senile Joe as president in 2024 that's for sure.
I still don't think Joe is gonna finish his term. Just a feeling something is going to happen.
 
Yep and why is that ????? If anybody don't know it or can't see it by now then they are the most ignorant human beings on the face of this earth.
They don't want to return to real American traditions and values because that would preclude them from tearing down America and 'building back' to a Marxist collective where personal achievement, individualism and love of country is frowned upon.
 
Link to the crime, and the statute.

Forgive me if I don't believe a lying sack of shit like you without backup.

No problem. You're a glutton for punishment anyway and I'm happy to oblige in that department...

Fraud...

18 U.S. Code § 1341 - Frauds and swindles

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.


Fraud...


The former president used donations to a nonexistent legal defense fund for his hotels and the January 6 Ellipse rally

[...]

Despite the nuances, all the millions of emails sent out from the @victory.donaldtrump.com address essentially said the same thing. They exhorted Trump supporters to back the “Official Election Defense Fund” with their hard-earned dollars.

“If EVERY Patriot chips in $5, President Trump will have what it takes to DEFEND the Election and WIN!” said the email that was transmitted on 10 November – three days after Biden’s victory had been sealed.

There was only one problem with this epic flurry of emails: the Official Election Defense Fund did not exist.

[...]

There was no fund dedicated to fighting election battles as part of Trump’s mendacious and ultimately vain “big lie” that the presidency had been stolen from him. Instead, the money went into Trump’s new fundraising entity Save America Pac, from where millions of dollars were distributed to pro-Trump organizations including his own hotel properties and the company that produced the Ellipse rally in Washington on January 6 just hours before the storming of the Capitol.
 
No problem. You're a glutton for punishment anyway and I'm happy to oblige in that department...

Fraud...

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.


Fraud...

The former president used donations to a nonexistent legal defense fund for his hotels and the January 6 Ellipse rally
[...]
Despite the nuances, all the millions of emails sent out from the @victory.donaldtrump.com address essentially said the same thing. They exhorted Trump supporters to back the “Official Election Defense Fund” with their hard-earned dollars.
“If EVERY Patriot chips in $5, President Trump will have what it takes to DEFEND the Election and WIN!” said the email that was transmitted on 10 November – three days after Biden’s victory had been sealed.
There was only one problem with this epic flurry of emails: the Official Election Defense Fund did not exist.
[...]
There was no fund dedicated to fighting election battles as part of Trump’s mendacious and ultimately vain “big lie” that the presidency had been stolen from him. Instead, the money went into Trump’s new fundraising entity Save America Pac, from where millions of dollars were distributed to pro-Trump organizations including his own hotel properties and the company that produced the Ellipse rally in Washington on January 6 just hours before the storming of the Capitol.
Hmmmm..... good luck with that one.

So you have no actual crimes on Jan 6?
 
No problem. You're a glutton for punishment anyway and I'm happy to oblige in that department...

Fraud...

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.


Fraud...

The former president used donations to a nonexistent legal defense fund for his hotels and the January 6 Ellipse rally
[...]
Despite the nuances, all the millions of emails sent out from the @victory.donaldtrump.com address essentially said the same thing. They exhorted Trump supporters to back the “Official Election Defense Fund” with their hard-earned dollars.
“If EVERY Patriot chips in $5, President Trump will have what it takes to DEFEND the Election and WIN!” said the email that was transmitted on 10 November – three days after Biden’s victory had been sealed.
There was only one problem with this epic flurry of emails: the Official Election Defense Fund did not exist.
[...]
There was no fund dedicated to fighting election battles as part of Trump’s mendacious and ultimately vain “big lie” that the presidency had been stolen from him. Instead, the money went into Trump’s new fundraising entity Save America Pac, from where millions of dollars were distributed to pro-Trump organizations including his own hotel properties and the company that produced the Ellipse rally in Washington on January 6 just hours before the storming of the Capitol.
you have to have a victim…is anyone that donated complaining? really please tell me there is more to this jan 6th committee besides trying to get the president charged by garland for obtaining money by false pretense…
 
Hmmmm..... good luck with that one.

:dance:

So you have no actual crimes on Jan 6?

That remains to be seen as the investigationis still ongoing. Sending fake electors to Congress to overturn an election is a crime. I'm confident some people will go to jail over that. Seems obvious by how some of those fake electors are now throwing Trump's people under the proverbial bus, claiming they were duped by them to believe they were legit electors. Now the question regarding Trump is what role did he personally play in pulling off that scheme.
 
They did? Link?

Come on Dragonlady prove to us once in your pathetic life that you aren't just a lying sack of KKKanadian shit. Bring a link.

Right after you prove that you aren't a total waste of humanity. You don't have a job, or a life. You're here 24/7 - wasting your life away.
 

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