Jews as Hebrew God's Chosen people, Because?

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I already told you that God didn't choose the Jews specifically. God ask many tribes on Earth if they wanted to worship him and only Abraham agreed to do as such...The Jews were but one tribe of the Hebrews. It's all in the history section of the non-fiction section..

No, you have the whole damn story all wrong..

They were chosen because they were the only literate tribe.

Why would God write an angry letter to the other nations if they didn't even know how to read?

The Arrogance displayed here is breathtaking.

Fact is most peoples within societies with Writing, were in fact Illiterate until the Enlightenment.

Ancient Hebrews weren't the "ONLY" ones to read.

In fact, a bunch of other groups around the region & even else where were able to, going back to Sumerian Cuneiform, Egyptian Hieroglyphs, Minoan Linear A, Mycenaean Linear B, and the Phoenician Alphabet, the Chinese Oracle Shell.

Ok sure, forget about ancient man. You are illiterate. Think about it. You read the bible and walk away with the belief that a human being is God and you must eat him and hate Jews to live forever..

If thats not illiterate what is it?

Just plain stupid?

I would think more highly of you if you couldn't read at all.

Do you believe that God is good?

“Good” is subjective. Emojis are for children. This site is for adults.

G-d is great. Say it with me, brother.

 

[Indeependent]

I blame Hitler, people afraid of him, and people who hate Jews for the Holocaust.

70 - 85 million died in WW2, that means just close to 6 - 8% of those who died were Jews.

They weren't systematically targeted for extermination like the Jews were.

GeneralPlan Ost says otherwise.

Why is that significant? It was the Jews who had to wear armbands signifying who they were and made them targets.

It's NOT ONLY Jews who had to wear a stigma on them.

So did Polish slave-laborers wear a sort of stigma patch.

The “P” batch-The Nazi apartheid regime for Polish labourers

Polish decrees - Wikipedia

I’ve never seen this.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

You know you Jews are being dishonest, when you say there's no Jewish version of Hell.

Plain & simply J00 do.

Tzoah Rotachat - Wikipedia

Tzoah Rotachat
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

tsoah rothachath — "boiling excrement") in the Talmud and Zohar is a location in Gehenna (Gehinnom) where the souls of Jews who committed certain sins are sent for punishment. This form of punishment is cited as being of extreme nature, if not the most extreme, in the sense that those individuals sentenced there are not given relief even on Shabbat, and are not released after the standard twelve-month period.

wrong again------GEHINNOM is not hell------it is a garbage dump outside the precincts of
Jerusalem----there is no DEVIL OR HADES presiding, it is not a place underground--
---and the entire issue is metaphor

It sure sounds very close to Hell to me.

Gehenna - Wikipedia

Cool...
Rather than study Scripture, go to Wikipedia.
Hell is you that has no connection to God.

Here is a Holocaust survivor, and a Historian who's an Israeli Jew.

He exposed the Talmud, and basically "Crickets" from other Jews.

Israel and Anti-Gentile Traditions | My Jewish Learning

Are Jewish Lives Worth More?
In Jewish History, Jewish Religion Shahak brings numerous texts and legal rulings to demonstrate Jewish antipathy to non-Jews. He mentions a passage from the that says that Jesus will be punished in hell by being immersed in boiling excrement. He relates that Jewish tradition teaches pious Jews to burn copies of the New Testament and curse the mothers of the dead when passing non-Jewish cemeteries. Shahak highlights the famous passage from Leviticus commanding Jews to "love thy neighbor as thyself" and mentions that, according to rabbinic interpretation, "thy neighbor" refers only to Jews.

Shahak further suggests that the Jewish tradition values Jewish life more than Gentile life. He cites Maimonides’ assertion that whereas one who murders a Jew is subject to the death penalty, one who murders a non-Jew is not (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 2:11). According to another leading commentator, indirectly causing the death of a non-Jew is no sin at all (Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Bayit Hadash, commentary on Bet Yosef, Yoreh Deah 158).

Shahak reiterates the well-known Jewish teaching that the duty to save a life supersedes all other obligations and notes that the rabbis interpreted this to apply to Jews only. According to the Talmud, "Gentiles are neither to be lifted [out of a well] nor hauled down [into it]" (Tractate Avodah Zarah, 26b). Maimonides writes: "As for Gentiles with whom we are not at war…their death must not be caused, but it is forbidden to save them if they are at the point of death; if, for example, one of them is seen falling into the sea, he should not be rescued, for it is written: ‘neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy fellow’–but [a Gentile] is not thy fellow" (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 4:11).


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Indeed, Maimonides is the focus of much of Shahak’s analysis. Shahak believes that the 12th-century philosopher and talmudist was a Gentile-hater and racist. He quotes Maimonides’ statement that, "their [the Turks and the blacks] nature is like the nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the level of human beings" (Guide For the Perplexed, Book III, Chapter 51).

Practical Ramifications
Shahak recognizes that many of these traditions are not followed in practice, but he believes that, in general, they have been covered up, instead of confronted. In support of this claim, he refers to another a violent passage from Maimonides that is not translated in the bilingual addition of the Guide published in Jerusalem in 1962. He sees this as a deliberate deception on the part of the editors to soften classical Jewish militancy. His own English translation of the passage, which discusses the command to kill Jewish infidels reads: "It is a duty to exterminate them with one’s own hands. Such as Jesus of Nazareth and his pupils, and Tzadoq and Baitos [the founders of the Sadducees] and their pupils, may the name of the wicked rot."

According to Shahak, Jewish "traditions of contempt" infiltrated Zionism and have affected Israeli policy towards its Arab citizens and the Palestinians. He cites three main areas where he believes this has occurred: residency rights, employment rights, and equality before the law.

As an example, he mentions that 92% of Israel’s land is legally restricted to Jews. While in other countries it would be labeled anti-Semitic if a policy excluded Jews from living on or owning land, in the Israeli context Jews tolerate it. He adds that based on the distinction in classical Judaism between reverence for Jewish cemeteries and not for non-Jewish ones, the state of Israel has destroyed hundreds of Muslim cemeteries, including one in order to build the Hilton Hotel in Tel Aviv.

Shahak had a MISSION-----he was a radical communist bent on destruction--------a Stalinist nihilist.
You chose a good DOPPELGANGER

Notice, you Jews never seem to truly refute the accusations brought up against the Talmud?
How come?

 

[irosie91]

that's cute------P for pierogis

 

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The Arrogance displayed here is breathtaking.

Fact is most peoples within societies with Writing, were in fact Illiterate until the Enlightenment.

Ancient Hebrews weren't the "ONLY" ones to read.

In fact, a bunch of other groups around the region & even else where were able to, going back to Sumerian Cuneiform, Egyptian Hieroglyphs, Minoan Linear A, Mycenaean Linear B, and the Phoenician Alphabet, the Chinese Oracle Shell.

Ok sure, forget about ancient man. You are illiterate. Think about it. You read the bible and walk away with the belief that a human being is God and you must eat him and hate Jews to live forever..

If thats not illiterate what is it?

Just plain stupid?

I would think more highly of you if you couldn't read at all.

What makes that any worse, then Jews thinking Yamakas save them, or that they must suck on Babies genitals in Metzitzah B'peh.

You & your tribe are therefor Illiterate, by your own logic.

Sure, some Jews read their own scriptures and haven't done any better than you have understanding the meanings of the words and subjects. Well, maybe not as bad, but still you have a point.

Even so it just goes to show that the teaching in the bible is not and never was about being Jewish or Gentile.

No one is immune to the consequences of setting aside divine instruction. No one is excluded from entering the kingdom of God or favored because of their race, color, nationality, gender, wealth, geographic location or or sexual preferences.

People freely choose between a spirit of truth and a spirit of perversity. Its a choice between a blessing or a curse, life and death. How you respond to what was written reveals where you are at as a person.

There is no middle ground. Either you choose a place among the living or you will be given a place among the dead.

You are a Jew hating Jewish man worshipping Christian.

God loved the world so much that he gave you Jesus to eat. He was Jew. You get to celebrate his torture and death every Sunday. Be happy!

Jewish Metzitzah B'peh is a lot worse than Catholic Holy Communion.

What makes Judaism any less exclusive to foreigners, than Christianity?

The Talmud seems to have many anti-Christian texts, and Jews speak of the Gentiles, or even Goyim in a often negative way.

Contrary to your opinions, I'm not much of a Catholic.
But, rather a skeptic of Mainstream Religions, if anything I support the Pantheism / Pandiesm World.
Even so, I don't blame people for Religious beliefs, if it helps them, necessarily.
I think that Catholics are unfairly criticized beyond other faiths.

So the Talmud speaks of the goyim in a negative way? Like you speak of the Jews in a negative way? Is that what you mean? Those bastards!

lol... Guess what! You aren't doing anything to dispel those negative images, standing there with the blood of Jesus dripping from your lips.

Do you believe God is good?

 

[Indeependent]

wrong again------GEHINNOM is not hell------it is a garbage dump outside the precincts of
Jerusalem----there is no DEVIL OR HADES presiding, it is not a place underground--
---and the entire issue is metaphor

It sure sounds very close to Hell to me.

Gehenna - Wikipedia

Cool...
Rather than study Scripture, go to Wikipedia.
Hell is you that has no connection to God.

Here is a Holocaust survivor, and a Historian who's an Israeli Jew.

He exposed the Talmud, and basically "Crickets" from other Jews.

Israel and Anti-Gentile Traditions | My Jewish Learning

Are Jewish Lives Worth More?
In Jewish History, Jewish Religion Shahak brings numerous texts and legal rulings to demonstrate Jewish antipathy to non-Jews. He mentions a passage from the that says that Jesus will be punished in hell by being immersed in boiling excrement. He relates that Jewish tradition teaches pious Jews to burn copies of the New Testament and curse the mothers of the dead when passing non-Jewish cemeteries. Shahak highlights the famous passage from Leviticus commanding Jews to "love thy neighbor as thyself" and mentions that, according to rabbinic interpretation, "thy neighbor" refers only to Jews.

Shahak further suggests that the Jewish tradition values Jewish life more than Gentile life. He cites Maimonides’ assertion that whereas one who murders a Jew is subject to the death penalty, one who murders a non-Jew is not (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 2:11). According to another leading commentator, indirectly causing the death of a non-Jew is no sin at all (Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Bayit Hadash, commentary on Bet Yosef, Yoreh Deah 158).

Shahak reiterates the well-known Jewish teaching that the duty to save a life supersedes all other obligations and notes that the rabbis interpreted this to apply to Jews only. According to the Talmud, "Gentiles are neither to be lifted [out of a well] nor hauled down [into it]" (Tractate Avodah Zarah, 26b). Maimonides writes: "As for Gentiles with whom we are not at war…their death must not be caused, but it is forbidden to save them if they are at the point of death; if, for example, one of them is seen falling into the sea, he should not be rescued, for it is written: ‘neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy fellow’–but [a Gentile] is not thy fellow" (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 4:11).


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Indeed, Maimonides is the focus of much of Shahak’s analysis. Shahak believes that the 12th-century philosopher and talmudist was a Gentile-hater and racist. He quotes Maimonides’ statement that, "their [the Turks and the blacks] nature is like the nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the level of human beings" (Guide For the Perplexed, Book III, Chapter 51).

Practical Ramifications
Shahak recognizes that many of these traditions are not followed in practice, but he believes that, in general, they have been covered up, instead of confronted. In support of this claim, he refers to another a violent passage from Maimonides that is not translated in the bilingual addition of the Guide published in Jerusalem in 1962. He sees this as a deliberate deception on the part of the editors to soften classical Jewish militancy. His own English translation of the passage, which discusses the command to kill Jewish infidels reads: "It is a duty to exterminate them with one’s own hands. Such as Jesus of Nazareth and his pupils, and Tzadoq and Baitos [the founders of the Sadducees] and their pupils, may the name of the wicked rot."

According to Shahak, Jewish "traditions of contempt" infiltrated Zionism and have affected Israeli policy towards its Arab citizens and the Palestinians. He cites three main areas where he believes this has occurred: residency rights, employment rights, and equality before the law.

As an example, he mentions that 92% of Israel’s land is legally restricted to Jews. While in other countries it would be labeled anti-Semitic if a policy excluded Jews from living on or owning land, in the Israeli context Jews tolerate it. He adds that based on the distinction in classical Judaism between reverence for Jewish cemeteries and not for non-Jewish ones, the state of Israel has destroyed hundreds of Muslim cemeteries, including one in order to build the Hilton Hotel in Tel Aviv.

Shahak had a MISSION-----he was a radical communist bent on destruction--------a Stalinist nihilist.
You chose a good DOPPELGANGER

Notice, you Jews never seem to truly refute the accusations brought up against the Talmud?
How come?

Because your “quote” specifically mentions a rebellious king.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

70 - 85 million died in WW2, that means just close to 6 - 8% of those who died were Jews.

They weren't systematically targeted for extermination like the Jews were.

GeneralPlan Ost says otherwise.

Why is that significant? It was the Jews who had to wear armbands signifying who they were and made them targets.

It's NOT ONLY Jews who had to wear a stigma on them.

So did Polish slave-laborers wear a sort of stigma patch.

The “P” batch-The Nazi apartheid regime for Polish labourers

Polish decrees - Wikipedia

I’ve never seen this.

So, I guess it didn't happen, because it gets in the way of Jews & their suffering?

 

[rightwinger]

God had his choice of thousands of religions

He wanted his son raised a Jew

 

[Indeependent]

They weren't systematically targeted for extermination like the Jews were.

GeneralPlan Ost says otherwise.

Why is that significant? It was the Jews who had to wear armbands signifying who they were and made them targets.

It's NOT ONLY Jews who had to wear a stigma on them.

So did Polish slave-laborers wear a sort of stigma patch.

The “P” batch-The Nazi apartheid regime for Polish labourers

Polish decrees - Wikipedia

I’ve never seen this.

So, I guess it didn't happen, because it gets in the way of Jews & their suffering?

Any pictures?
I’m sure Pollacks had cameras and knew how to use them.

 

[irosie91]

wrong again------GEHINNOM is not hell------it is a garbage dump outside the precincts of
Jerusalem----there is no DEVIL OR HADES presiding, it is not a place underground--
---and the entire issue is metaphor

It sure sounds very close to Hell to me.

Gehenna - Wikipedia

Cool...
Rather than study Scripture, go to Wikipedia.
Hell is you that has no connection to God.

Here is a Holocaust survivor, and a Historian who's an Israeli Jew.

He exposed the Talmud, and basically "Crickets" from other Jews.

Israel and Anti-Gentile Traditions | My Jewish Learning

Are Jewish Lives Worth More?
In Jewish History, Jewish Religion Shahak brings numerous texts and legal rulings to demonstrate Jewish antipathy to non-Jews. He mentions a passage from the that says that Jesus will be punished in hell by being immersed in boiling excrement. He relates that Jewish tradition teaches pious Jews to burn copies of the New Testament and curse the mothers of the dead when passing non-Jewish cemeteries. Shahak highlights the famous passage from Leviticus commanding Jews to "love thy neighbor as thyself" and mentions that, according to rabbinic interpretation, "thy neighbor" refers only to Jews.

Shahak further suggests that the Jewish tradition values Jewish life more than Gentile life. He cites Maimonides’ assertion that whereas one who murders a Jew is subject to the death penalty, one who murders a non-Jew is not (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 2:11). According to another leading commentator, indirectly causing the death of a non-Jew is no sin at all (Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Bayit Hadash, commentary on Bet Yosef, Yoreh Deah 158).

Shahak reiterates the well-known Jewish teaching that the duty to save a life supersedes all other obligations and notes that the rabbis interpreted this to apply to Jews only. According to the Talmud, "Gentiles are neither to be lifted [out of a well] nor hauled down [into it]" (Tractate Avodah Zarah, 26b). Maimonides writes: "As for Gentiles with whom we are not at war…their death must not be caused, but it is forbidden to save them if they are at the point of death; if, for example, one of them is seen falling into the sea, he should not be rescued, for it is written: ‘neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy fellow’–but [a Gentile] is not thy fellow" (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 4:11).


ADVERTISING
Indeed, Maimonides is the focus of much of Shahak’s analysis. Shahak believes that the 12th-century philosopher and talmudist was a Gentile-hater and racist. He quotes Maimonides’ statement that, "their [the Turks and the blacks] nature is like the nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the level of human beings" (Guide For the Perplexed, Book III, Chapter 51).

Practical Ramifications
Shahak recognizes that many of these traditions are not followed in practice, but he believes that, in general, they have been covered up, instead of confronted. In support of this claim, he refers to another a violent passage from Maimonides that is not translated in the bilingual addition of the Guide published in Jerusalem in 1962. He sees this as a deliberate deception on the part of the editors to soften classical Jewish militancy. His own English translation of the passage, which discusses the command to kill Jewish infidels reads: "It is a duty to exterminate them with one’s own hands. Such as Jesus of Nazareth and his pupils, and Tzadoq and Baitos [the founders of the Sadducees] and their pupils, may the name of the wicked rot."

According to Shahak, Jewish "traditions of contempt" infiltrated Zionism and have affected Israeli policy towards its Arab citizens and the Palestinians. He cites three main areas where he believes this has occurred: residency rights, employment rights, and equality before the law.

As an example, he mentions that 92% of Israel’s land is legally restricted to Jews. While in other countries it would be labeled anti-Semitic if a policy excluded Jews from living on or owning land, in the Israeli context Jews tolerate it. He adds that based on the distinction in classical Judaism between reverence for Jewish cemeteries and not for non-Jewish ones, the state of Israel has destroyed hundreds of Muslim cemeteries, including one in order to build the Hilton Hotel in Tel Aviv.

Shahak had a MISSION-----he was a radical communist bent on destruction--------a Stalinist nihilist.
You chose a good DOPPELGANGER

Notice, you Jews never seem to truly refute the accusations brought up against the Talmud?
How come?

there is nothing to refute-------they are like the polish matzoh libels------never happened.
They are dependent on-------such brilliant mechanisms as "I SAY "that man" means jesus"

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

GeneralPlan Ost says otherwise.

Why is that significant? It was the Jews who had to wear armbands signifying who they were and made them targets.

It's NOT ONLY Jews who had to wear a stigma on them.

So did Polish slave-laborers wear a sort of stigma patch.

The “P” batch-The Nazi apartheid regime for Polish labourers

Polish decrees - Wikipedia

I’ve never seen this.

So, I guess it didn't happen, because it gets in the way of Jews & their suffering?

Any pictures?
I’m sure Pollacks had cameras and knew how to use them.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/162622236524435024/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274578908505443682/?lp=true

 

[Indeependent]

Why is that significant? It was the Jews who had to wear armbands signifying who they were and made them targets.

It's NOT ONLY Jews who had to wear a stigma on them.

So did Polish slave-laborers wear a sort of stigma patch.

The “P” batch-The Nazi apartheid regime for Polish labourers

Polish decrees - Wikipedia

I’ve never seen this.

So, I guess it didn't happen, because it gets in the way of Jews & their suffering?

Any pictures?
I’m sure Pollacks had cameras and knew how to use them.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/162622236524435024/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274578908505443682/?lp=true

Why are they smiling?
No pictures of someone looking sad?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

It's NOT ONLY Jews who had to wear a stigma on them.

So did Polish slave-laborers wear a sort of stigma patch.

The “P” batch-The Nazi apartheid regime for Polish labourers

Polish decrees - Wikipedia

I’ve never seen this.

So, I guess it didn't happen, because it gets in the way of Jews & their suffering?

Any pictures?
I’m sure Pollacks had cameras and knew how to use them.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/162622236524435024/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274578908505443682/?lp=true

Why are they smiling?
No pictures of someone looking sad?

So, it must be a fabrication, because Jew says so.
Jew is all that matters.

 

[Indeependent]

Why is that significant? It was the Jews who had to wear armbands signifying who they were and made them targets.

It's NOT ONLY Jews who had to wear a stigma on them.

So did Polish slave-laborers wear a sort of stigma patch.

The “P” batch-The Nazi apartheid regime for Polish labourers

Polish decrees - Wikipedia

I’ve never seen this.

So, I guess it didn't happen, because it gets in the way of Jews & their suffering?

Any pictures?
I’m sure Pollacks had cameras and knew how to use them.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/162622236524435024/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274578908505443682/?lp=true

Forced labor badge, yellow with a purple P, to identify a Polish forced laborer - Collections Search - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Read the whole article.
Apparently, even Germans were being abused.

 

[Indeependent]

I’ve never seen this.

So, I guess it didn't happen, because it gets in the way of Jews & their suffering?

Any pictures?
I’m sure Pollacks had cameras and knew how to use them.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/162622236524435024/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274578908505443682/?lp=true

Why are they smiling?
No pictures of someone looking sad?

So, it must be a fabrication, because Jew says so.
Jew is all that matters.

Now back to the Gospel According to John sending billions of people to the Eternal Lake of Hell.

You know that includes you.

But JOOZ!!!

 

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So, I guess it didn't happen, because it gets in the way of Jews & their suffering?

Any pictures?
I’m sure Pollacks had cameras and knew how to use them.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/162622236524435024/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274578908505443682/?lp=true

Why are they smiling?
No pictures of someone looking sad?

So, it must be a fabrication, because Jew says so.
Jew is all that matters.

Now back to the Gospel According to John sending billions of people to the Eternal Lake of Hell.

You know that includes you.

But JOOZ!!!

You yourself believe in an afterlife, right?

Is it your belief there is no judgment?

How is that different from the Christian belief?

 

[ding]

God had his choice of thousands of religions

He wanted his son raised a Jew

There’s only been one revealed religion.

Before the great migration from the cradle of civilization they all shared a common history and religion.

 

[Indeependent]

Any pictures?
I’m sure Pollacks had cameras and knew how to use them.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/162622236524435024/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274578908505443682/?lp=true

Why are they smiling?
No pictures of someone looking sad?

So, it must be a fabrication, because Jew says so.
Jew is all that matters.

Now back to the Gospel According to John sending billions of people to the Eternal Lake of Hell.

You know that includes you.

But JOOZ!!!

You yourself believe in an afterlife, right?

Is it your belief there is no judgment?

How is that different from the Christian belief?

Judgement is in God’s “Hands”.
Only atheists vanish into nothingness.
Non-Jews are judged based on their requirements,
Not on whether or not they were Jew.
A righteous non-Jew who never heard of, or met, a Jew will receive the same reward as a righteous Jew.

 

[Indeependent]

God had his choice of thousands of religions

He wanted his son raised a Jew

There’s only been one revealed religion.

Before the great migration from the cradle of civilization they all shared a common history and religion.

Elaborate...

 

[ding]

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/162622236524435024/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274578908505443682/?lp=true

Why are they smiling?
No pictures of someone looking sad?

So, it must be a fabrication, because Jew says so.
Jew is all that matters.

Now back to the Gospel According to John sending billions of people to the Eternal Lake of Hell.

You know that includes you.

But JOOZ!!!

You yourself believe in an afterlife, right?

Is it your belief there is no judgment?

How is that different from the Christian belief?

Judgement is in God’s “Hands”.
Only atheists vanish into nothingness.
Non-Jews are judged based on their requirements,
Not on whether or not they were Jew.
A righteous non-Jew who never heard of, or met, a Jew will receive the same reward as a righteous Jew.

So no judgment for Jews?