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Jihad or just plain anger?

frigidweirdo

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A comparison here that I am making between Columbine and the Paris and Brussels attacks.


Molenbeek's gangster jihadis - BBC News

This article from the BBC puts some perspective into where the terrorists came from and what motivated them to do what they did.

Did they do what they did because they were deeply religious people who wanted to take down the west and impose their version of Islam onto everyone else, or were they kids who grew up angry and wanted to do something similar to Columbine?

Molenbeek (in Brussels), "this densely populated district of Brussels has 40% youth unemployment."


"But one phrase you often hear when foreign journalists attempt a vox pop is that "terrorism has nothing to do with Islam"."

"Certainly, many of those who joined IS from the area did not come from particularly religious backgrounds."

"Salah Abdeslam and his elder brother Brahim - who blew himself up in the Paris attacks - used to run a cafe in Molenbeek that sold alcohol and was closed down for drug offences. One friend of the brothers who used to hang out there told me he would regularly see Brahim Abdeslam "watching IS videos, with a joint in one hand, and a beer in another". He said Brahim would spout off radical statements but that no-one took him seriously."

"There is certainly a sense of disaffection among many in Molenbeek."

"It was the fault of domestic conditions. He railed against the Belgian government - against white Belgians, who hated those of Arab descent, he said. And he would repeat "there is no democracy here" - a feeling that you can't express any view dissenting from the mainstream without being labelled extreme."

""The young people from Molenbeek feel frustrated because they were marginalised by the Belgian government. They have never tried to give them work, education, social help in order to get them integrated into society," he [Sheikh Bassam Ayachi ] said."

The rest you can read if you choose to do so.

However the question is, if people who commit these attacks smoke, drink and do all kinds of things, are they really the religious people we think they are?

Is IS just a way for angry young people to fight back at whatever it is they have learned to hate, similar to what happens with school attacks in the US? Rather than just simply religious?
 
The intent doesn't matter, just track them down and kill them, kill those that support them, level any village harboring them
 
The intent doesn't matter, just track them down and kill them, kill those that support them, level any village harboring them

If something is a problem, and you fight the cause of the problem, then you can stop it from happening. If you are fighting a different problem to the real one, are you going to solve it?

Who are you hunting down?

Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?
 
It is part of young male fascination with violence, death and imposing their ego on their environment. It would be considered abnormal if it were not so common.

It is not necessary to point out that the occasional female is involved. Any objective view would have to admit that, if males were left out of statistics, mass killings and terrorism would be so infinitesimal as to be unremarkable.
 
The intent doesn't matter, just track them down and kill them, kill those that support them, level any village harboring them

If something is a problem, and you fight the cause of the problem, then you can stop it from happening. If you are fighting a different problem to the real one, are you going to solve it?

Who are you hunting down?

Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?

LOL The "cause" has existed for centuries, just kill them. If it's death they desire give them death. It's past time to stop coddling them, making excuses for their actions and get down to the dirty business of eradicating them like the rabid animals they are
 
Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?



I felt like writing a right wing response to your pertinent questions; its all Obamas fault.
 
oh yeah they are all only angry, until the persons become labeled a "right winger".
this type of crap just give the terrorist comfort to continue doing what they are doing. this is dangerous. THOSE innocent people they bombed didn't do a damn thing to them and to be killed by blown to bits.
 
:rofl:
The ignorance of history is astounding.
Look, not all muslims are terrorists. But a lot are. Islam is a fuckin disease. To ignore the war filled religions history and teachings, to rationalize their savage behavior, is fuckin pathetic.
 
The intent doesn't matter, just track them down and kill them, kill those that support them, level any village harboring them

If something is a problem, and you fight the cause of the problem, then you can stop it from happening. If you are fighting a different problem to the real one, are you going to solve it?

Who are you hunting down?

Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?

LOL The "cause" has existed for centuries, just kill them. If it's death they desire give them death. It's past time to stop coddling them, making excuses for their actions and get down to the dirty business of eradicating them like the rabid animals they are

Kill who?

You do realize that your suggestion is fucking ridiculous don't you?

In order to stop killing, your suggestion is to go on a killing spree..........
 
Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?



I felt like writing a right wing response to your pertinent questions; its all Obamas fault.

Well it's short enough for those on the right to read the whole thing. One sentence, and only 3 verbs, I'm sure they'd be happy.
 
The intent doesn't matter, just track them down and kill them, kill those that support them, level any village harboring them

If something is a problem, and you fight the cause of the problem, then you can stop it from happening. If you are fighting a different problem to the real one, are you going to solve it?

Who are you hunting down?

Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?

LOL The "cause" has existed for centuries, just kill them. If it's death they desire give them death. It's past time to stop coddling them, making excuses for their actions and get down to the dirty business of eradicating them like the rabid animals they are

Kill who?

You do realize that your suggestion is fucking ridiculous don't you?

In order to stop killing, your suggestion is to go on a killing spree..........

You're coddling them....an Islamapologist I presume? Kill them, it's simple, you kill them before they kill you. You do realize you're also an infidel to them, right? They want you left loons dead too.
 
:rofl:
The ignorance of history is astounding.
Look, not all muslims are terrorists. But a lot are. Islam is a fuckin disease. To ignore the war filled religions history and teachings, to rationalize their savage behavior, is fuckin pathetic.

And it's even worse to ignore everything and just take on the old neanderthal approach.

You know when people see intelligence as wrong, that there's a problem.
 
The intent doesn't matter, just track them down and kill them, kill those that support them, level any village harboring them

If something is a problem, and you fight the cause of the problem, then you can stop it from happening. If you are fighting a different problem to the real one, are you going to solve it?

Who are you hunting down?

Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?

LOL The "cause" has existed for centuries, just kill them. If it's death they desire give them death. It's past time to stop coddling them, making excuses for their actions and get down to the dirty business of eradicating them like the rabid animals they are

Kill who?

You do realize that your suggestion is fucking ridiculous don't you?

In order to stop killing, your suggestion is to go on a killing spree..........
Your OP is ridiculous.
 
:rofl:
The ignorance of history is astounding.
Look, not all muslims are terrorists. But a lot are. Islam is a fuckin disease. To ignore the war filled religions history and teachings, to rationalize their savage behavior, is fuckin pathetic.

And it's even worse to ignore everything and just take on the old neanderthal approach.

You know when people see intelligence as wrong, that there's a problem.
What approach would that be?
What intelligence are you referring to?
 
The intent doesn't matter, just track them down and kill them, kill those that support them, level any village harboring them

If something is a problem, and you fight the cause of the problem, then you can stop it from happening. If you are fighting a different problem to the real one, are you going to solve it?

Who are you hunting down?

Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?

LOL The "cause" has existed for centuries, just kill them. If it's death they desire give them death. It's past time to stop coddling them, making excuses for their actions and get down to the dirty business of eradicating them like the rabid animals they are

Kill who?

You do realize that your suggestion is fucking ridiculous don't you?

In order to stop killing, your suggestion is to go on a killing spree..........

You're coddling them....an Islamapologist I presume? Kill them, it's simple, you kill them before they kill you. You do realize you're also an infidel to them, right? They want you left loons dead too.

Well there's the first example in this thread of someone on the right calling someone an "Islamapologist" or an "Islamic apologist".

You know when someone doesn't have an argument when they bring out the insults.
 
The intent doesn't matter, just track them down and kill them, kill those that support them, level any village harboring them

If something is a problem, and you fight the cause of the problem, then you can stop it from happening. If you are fighting a different problem to the real one, are you going to solve it?

Who are you hunting down?

Can the US govt hunt down the next school shooter before they strike again? Or will they just wait until a dozen innocent people are lying dead?

LOL The "cause" has existed for centuries, just kill them. If it's death they desire give them death. It's past time to stop coddling them, making excuses for their actions and get down to the dirty business of eradicating them like the rabid animals they are

Kill who?

You do realize that your suggestion is fucking ridiculous don't you?

In order to stop killing, your suggestion is to go on a killing spree..........

You're coddling them....an Islamapologist I presume? Kill them, it's simple, you kill them before they kill you. You do realize you're also an infidel to them, right? They want you left loons dead too.

Well there's the first example in this thread of someone on the right calling someone an "Islamapologist" or an "Islamic apologist".

You know when someone doesn't have an argument when they bring out the insults.

Man up and stop whining
 
:rofl:
The ignorance of history is astounding.
Look, not all muslims are terrorists. But a lot are. Islam is a fuckin disease. To ignore the war filled religions history and teachings, to rationalize their savage behavior, is fuckin pathetic.

And it's even worse to ignore everything and just take on the old neanderthal approach.

You know when people see intelligence as wrong, that there's a problem.
What approach would that be?
What intelligence are you referring to?

I wouldn't expect you to know. Now, either stay on topic or I'll just report all your posts for being off topic.
 
I watched an interview with a reformed Jihadi a few years back.

The guy was intelligent,educated and born and bred in Britain.

He joined up because of his anger at the treatment of Muslims in the Balkans. It was there on his tv every night. People being slaughtered for the crime of being Muslim.

It wasnt a great jump for him to think that it could have been him lying dead in a ditch whilst Christian soldiers raped his mother and sister.

This is why bombing makes things worse. We make more martyrs and inspire more Jihadis. A more sensible solution is needed.

The middle east is an utter mess, much,or most, of it the Wests making. We create artificial boundaries,we ignore the needs of minorities, we back despots,we fund revolutions , we bomb countries to oblivion and then look shocked when it comes back to bite us.

The refugees in Europe are escaping all of that.
 

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