Joe Biden gets into testy exchange with man over gun rights

[busybee01]

The fact that Biden said "AR-14" looks worse than his display of bad temper and lack of self-control. This video makes Biden look very bad.

This video makes Biden look good. Standing up to a right wing zealot and telling him exactly what he is. You are another bullshit artist.

 

[busybee01]

Biden was 100% right. That guy was full of shit. The AR-15 and AK-47 should be banned. These weapons are designed for military use. They can be loaded and unloaded quickly. You can't have a mortar so why should you have military designed rifles.

Talking out of your ass?

AR-15 is not military weapon. AK-47 original is automatic, but for US sales is made semi-automatic, therefore not military weapon.

The civilian version is still basically the military one. There are a few changes to prevent it from firing automatically but that is it.

More commie lies. Civilian ARs are not milspec. Meaning they are made from different materials not designed for high rates of fire and less durable.

.

I suppose that is why these weapons are a mass-shooter's weapon of choice. You are the commie liar.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I ran across this thread, forgot about it and then found it today. I'm late to yet another party, but I'm going to respond before I read the other responses so that I'm not influenced by extraneous matter.

I disagree that people with records should be denied the Right to keep and bear Arms. On that count, where we come up short is in the rehabilitation of people convicted of criminal activity. If you rehabilitate them and they must accomplish certain things (as opposed to being incarcerated for a specific period of time), you would be much more successful.

Currently America has more people in prison than any nation on this planet. Creating two classes of citizens after those people leave prison only strengthens the liberals that want to bury the Constitution. Furthermore, if you cannot trust that individual it is highly irresponsible to allow them to return to the streets of America. Rehabilitation.

In the case of Nicholas Cruz, his record was accumulated as a minor and those records are not available nor should they be. But, let's talk about Nicholas Cruz.

Nicholas Cruz, like virtually every mass shooter (with only a handful of exceptions), was a white male with no father figure and he was introduced to legal drugs with the known side effects of homicidal and suicidal tendencies. He had racked up a minimum of 12 interactions with the local constabularies and maybe as many as 45 interactions with the police. He had been suspended from school on numerous occasions.

We know who these mass shooters are long before they buy their first weapon. When I tell people the solution to this, the gun owners go ape shit because they cannot understand the difference between a civil intervention and the criminal process.

In Georgia (and I suspect most states are the same), the Dept. of Family and Children Services (aka CPS in some states) already has the power to investigate when a child's welfare is at stake. The immediate problem is that in every state, the Dept. of Family and Children Services, the agencies are an absolute clusterphuck. So, you have to fix those agencies. Then, when people like Nicholas Cruz need an intervention, you investigate and then get those children the appropriate help. This can be fixed without tax increases, without more bureaucracies, and without affecting anyone's Rights.

There are so many things I dispute here, I don't know where to begin. Oh well >>>

1. Few things could be more ludicrous than to disagree that people with records should be denied the Right to keep and bear Arms. Of course it depends on the type of records. In Nicolas Cruz' case (I'm not going to list all of his record) it's enough to to cite his public threats to shoot up the school. If his gun seller had known this, he correctly would have denied the sale. To go ahead with it (if that info were known), would be more than incorrect. It would be assinine, and dangerous, as we have seen.

2. Although I sympathize that minors should not be held as accountable as adults,with a record like Nicolas Cruz had compiled, it was ESSENTIAL for that full background to be included in his background investigation. Government's primary responsibility is PROTECTION of the public.

3. Cruz, with a Hispanic surname, has been defined as Hispanic.

4. No, we most certainly DO NOT know who these mass shooters are, and it is lunacies like the Promise Program, and all programs like it, what ever anybody calls them, that make us unable to know them and their backgrounds. It's evident you have not read this thread before posting. Maybe when you have more time (and a lot of it), you can go over it thoroughly, including the many links and sublinks I've posted.

Cruz might have been "Hispanic," but he grew up in a basically white culture, not a Hispanic one. But, yes, we do KNOW who is going to commit violent acts like a mass shooting in most cases.

People look back in retrospect and say "I'm not surprised." In Cruz's case, this is how it plays out in the news"

"I can't say I was shocked," Mr Charo said after the shooting.

"He seemed like the kind of kid who would do something like this."

FBI was warned about Florida gunman

Let's try another. An unidentified woman who knew Adam Lanza remarked:

"she was not shocked that he was the killer..."

Adam Lanza Threatened Sandy Hook Killings Years Earlier, Records Show

Pick your favorite five mass shooters and, unless you spend a Hell of a lot of time (like anomalies such as Stephen Paddock) virtually all of them are not committing an unforeseeable act. YES, we can identify these people in advance. Adam Lanza, Nicholas Cruz, the Columbine shooters, etc. etc. all have the same M.O. Mass shootings are generally committed by political jihadists OR they are committed by people who can be identified by quantifiable markers.

Lanza, Cruz, the Columbine shooters, and many others had no business being on the streets. They belonged in a mental health facility and those around them KNEW it. You just choose not to get involved, ask questions and see why a kid is being constantly tossed out of school, knows all the police that work in his precinct on a first name basis and instill fear in their classmates at school.

Let me tell you about your links. I will check them out though I doubt they will shed any new light on the matter. My wife will tell you that when a mass shooting takes place, once I know where it happened and the conditions, I can tell you almost anything you want to know about the shooter except his name. In the eight years we've been married, she can attest to the fact I'm never wrong.

Several years working as a foster parent and having taken training with DFACS to become one of their "assets," was worth more than all the statistics you can accumulate. Today I can work with a kid for a couple of weeks and tell you what his path in life is going to be. One truism in psychology is that past performance is the primary indicator of future performance.

When you have kids that are constantly on the radar of truant officers, school officials and racking up disciplinary actions followed up by family and neighbors calling the police on this individual, you KNOW you have a problem. Then, when that child is put on SSRIs (and put that into Google, then comma followed by any ten mass shooters picked at random) and that child is not supervised, you are guaranteed a violent outcome.

I have proposed legislation at the state level that, if enacted, would cut mass shootings by 90 percent. You can identify potentially dangerous people in advance, get them the help they need (or take them off the street if treatment does not work), but if you insist on not getting kids the help they need and deserve, you pay the consequences.

If you don't read the thread, you don't know what we're discussing here. It's about people NOT KNOWiNG backgrounds of criminals, whose crimes have been unreported, by promise programs.

I have read where you went on the thread. I still gave my initial thoughts on the OP. As an issue, I just don't think the promise programs are going anywhere.

They already HAVE gone somewhere. To the cemetery, where 17 people are buried. Any PP still existing, is a huge threat to the American people, with regard to many types of crimes.

What are you doing personally with regard to it?

 

[OKTexas]

Biden was 100% right. That guy was full of shit. The AR-15 and AK-47 should be banned. These weapons are designed for military use. They can be loaded and unloaded quickly. You can't have a mortar so why should you have military designed rifles.

Talking out of your ass?

AR-15 is not military weapon. AK-47 original is automatic, but for US sales is made semi-automatic, therefore not military weapon.

The civilian version is still basically the military one. There are a few changes to prevent it from firing automatically but that is it.

More commie lies. Civilian ARs are not milspec. Meaning they are made from different materials not designed for high rates of fire and less durable.

.

I suppose that is why these weapons are a mass-shooter's weapon of choice. You are the commie liar.

More commie lies, hand guns are used in the majority of mass shootings. Perhaps you should study the issue instead of just parroting commie talking points.

.

 

[protectionist]

There are so many things I dispute here, I don't know where to begin. Oh well >>>

1. Few things could be more ludicrous than to disagree that people with records should be denied the Right to keep and bear Arms. Of course it depends on the type of records. In Nicolas Cruz' case (I'm not going to list all of his record) it's enough to to cite his public threats to shoot up the school. If his gun seller had known this, he correctly would have denied the sale. To go ahead with it (if that info were known), would be more than incorrect. It would be assinine, and dangerous, as we have seen.

2. Although I sympathize that minors should not be held as accountable as adults,with a record like Nicolas Cruz had compiled, it was ESSENTIAL for that full background to be included in his background investigation. Government's primary responsibility is PROTECTION of the public.

3. Cruz, with a Hispanic surname, has been defined as Hispanic.

4. No, we most certainly DO NOT know who these mass shooters are, and it is lunacies like the Promise Program, and all programs like it, what ever anybody calls them, that make us unable to know them and their backgrounds. It's evident you have not read this thread before posting. Maybe when you have more time (and a lot of it), you can go over it thoroughly, including the many links and sublinks I've posted.

Cruz might have been "Hispanic," but he grew up in a basically white culture, not a Hispanic one. But, yes, we do KNOW who is going to commit violent acts like a mass shooting in most cases.

People look back in retrospect and say "I'm not surprised." In Cruz's case, this is how it plays out in the news"

"I can't say I was shocked," Mr Charo said after the shooting.

"He seemed like the kind of kid who would do something like this."

FBI was warned about Florida gunman

Let's try another. An unidentified woman who knew Adam Lanza remarked:

"she was not shocked that he was the killer..."

Adam Lanza Threatened Sandy Hook Killings Years Earlier, Records Show

Pick your favorite five mass shooters and, unless you spend a Hell of a lot of time (like anomalies such as Stephen Paddock) virtually all of them are not committing an unforeseeable act. YES, we can identify these people in advance. Adam Lanza, Nicholas Cruz, the Columbine shooters, etc. etc. all have the same M.O. Mass shootings are generally committed by political jihadists OR they are committed by people who can be identified by quantifiable markers.

Lanza, Cruz, the Columbine shooters, and many others had no business being on the streets. They belonged in a mental health facility and those around them KNEW it. You just choose not to get involved, ask questions and see why a kid is being constantly tossed out of school, knows all the police that work in his precinct on a first name basis and instill fear in their classmates at school.

Let me tell you about your links. I will check them out though I doubt they will shed any new light on the matter. My wife will tell you that when a mass shooting takes place, once I know where it happened and the conditions, I can tell you almost anything you want to know about the shooter except his name. In the eight years we've been married, she can attest to the fact I'm never wrong.

Several years working as a foster parent and having taken training with DFACS to become one of their "assets," was worth more than all the statistics you can accumulate. Today I can work with a kid for a couple of weeks and tell you what his path in life is going to be. One truism in psychology is that past performance is the primary indicator of future performance.

When you have kids that are constantly on the radar of truant officers, school officials and racking up disciplinary actions followed up by family and neighbors calling the police on this individual, you KNOW you have a problem. Then, when that child is put on SSRIs (and put that into Google, then comma followed by any ten mass shooters picked at random) and that child is not supervised, you are guaranteed a violent outcome.

I have proposed legislation at the state level that, if enacted, would cut mass shootings by 90 percent. You can identify potentially dangerous people in advance, get them the help they need (or take them off the street if treatment does not work), but if you insist on not getting kids the help they need and deserve, you pay the consequences.

If you don't read the thread, you don't know what we're discussing here. It's about people NOT KNOWiNG backgrounds of criminals, whose crimes have been unreported, by promise programs.

I have read where you went on the thread. I still gave my initial thoughts on the OP. As an issue, I just don't think the promise programs are going anywhere.

They already HAVE gone somewhere. To the cemetery, where 17 people are buried. Any PP still existing, is a huge threat to the American people, with regard to many types of crimes.

What are you doing personally with regard to it?

There are so many things I dispute here, I don't know where to begin. Oh well >>>

1. Few things could be more ludicrous than to disagree that people with records should be denied the Right to keep and bear Arms. Of course it depends on the type of records. In Nicolas Cruz' case (I'm not going to list all of his record) it's enough to to cite his public threats to shoot up the school. If his gun seller had known this, he correctly would have denied the sale. To go ahead with it (if that info were known), would be more than incorrect. It would be assinine, and dangerous, as we have seen.

2. Although I sympathize that minors should not be held as accountable as adults,with a record like Nicolas Cruz had compiled, it was ESSENTIAL for that full background to be included in his background investigation. Government's primary responsibility is PROTECTION of the public.

3. Cruz, with a Hispanic surname, has been defined as Hispanic.

4. No, we most certainly DO NOT know who these mass shooters are, and it is lunacies like the Promise Program, and all programs like it, what ever anybody calls them, that make us unable to know them and their backgrounds. It's evident you have not read this thread before posting. Maybe when you have more time (and a lot of it), you can go over it thoroughly, including the many links and sublinks I've posted.

Cruz might have been "Hispanic," but he grew up in a basically white culture, not a Hispanic one. But, yes, we do KNOW who is going to commit violent acts like a mass shooting in most cases.

People look back in retrospect and say "I'm not surprised." In Cruz's case, this is how it plays out in the news"

"I can't say I was shocked," Mr Charo said after the shooting.

"He seemed like the kind of kid who would do something like this."

FBI was warned about Florida gunman

Let's try another. An unidentified woman who knew Adam Lanza remarked:

"she was not shocked that he was the killer..."

Adam Lanza Threatened Sandy Hook Killings Years Earlier, Records Show

Pick your favorite five mass shooters and, unless you spend a Hell of a lot of time (like anomalies such as Stephen Paddock) virtually all of them are not committing an unforeseeable act. YES, we can identify these people in advance. Adam Lanza, Nicholas Cruz, the Columbine shooters, etc. etc. all have the same M.O. Mass shootings are generally committed by political jihadists OR they are committed by people who can be identified by quantifiable markers.

Lanza, Cruz, the Columbine shooters, and many others had no business being on the streets. They belonged in a mental health facility and those around them KNEW it. You just choose not to get involved, ask questions and see why a kid is being constantly tossed out of school, knows all the police that work in his precinct on a first name basis and instill fear in their classmates at school.

Let me tell you about your links. I will check them out though I doubt they will shed any new light on the matter. My wife will tell you that when a mass shooting takes place, once I know where it happened and the conditions, I can tell you almost anything you want to know about the shooter except his name. In the eight years we've been married, she can attest to the fact I'm never wrong.

Several years working as a foster parent and having taken training with DFACS to become one of their "assets," was worth more than all the statistics you can accumulate. Today I can work with a kid for a couple of weeks and tell you what his path in life is going to be. One truism in psychology is that past performance is the primary indicator of future performance.

When you have kids that are constantly on the radar of truant officers, school officials and racking up disciplinary actions followed up by family and neighbors calling the police on this individual, you KNOW you have a problem. Then, when that child is put on SSRIs (and put that into Google, then comma followed by any ten mass shooters picked at random) and that child is not supervised, you are guaranteed a violent outcome.

I have proposed legislation at the state level that, if enacted, would cut mass shootings by 90 percent. You can identify potentially dangerous people in advance, get them the help they need (or take them off the street if treatment does not work), but if you insist on not getting kids the help they need and deserve, you pay the consequences.

If you don't read the thread, you don't know what we're discussing here. It's about people NOT KNOWiNG backgrounds of criminals, whose crimes have been unreported, by promise programs.

I have read where you went on the thread. I still gave my initial thoughts on the OP. As an issue, I just don't think the promise programs are going anywhere.

They already HAVE gone somewhere. To the cemetery, where 17 people are buried. Any PP still existing, is a huge threat to the American people, with regard to many types of crimes.

What are you doing personally with regard to it?

Right now, going to bed. Good night.

 

[Ame®icano]

The fact that Biden said "AR-14" looks worse than his display of bad temper and lack of self-control. This video makes Biden look very bad.

This video makes Biden look good. Standing up to a right wing zealot and telling him exactly what he is. You are another bullshit artist.

Stalin would be so proud of Joe.

 

[Mac-7]

The voter in Detroit accuses biden of planning to take guns and Sleepy Joe loses it

Joe Biden gets into testy exchange with man over gun rights - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)Joe Biden got into a testy exchange Tuesday with a worker in Detroit who falsely accused the former vice president of wanting to confiscate guns from Americans, a remark that caused the Democratic presidential hopeful to say the man was "full of s***."

Gotta love how CNN just outright states that the man “falsely” accused Old Man Joe of wanting to confiscate guns.

Really? I guess CNN just “knows for a fact” that Old Joe doesn’t want to do something....

How about reporting what happened, the man asked Old Joe a question...

CNN are as big of liars as Sleepy Joe himself

 

[Mac-7]

The voter in Detroit accuses biden of planning to take guns and Sleepy Joe loses it

Joe Biden gets into testy exchange with man over gun rights - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)Joe Biden got into a testy exchange Tuesday with a worker in Detroit who falsely accused the former vice president of wanting to confiscate guns from Americans, a remark that caused the Democratic presidential hopeful to say the man was "full of s***."

Biden was 100% correct. The guy is full of shit. He is a far right wing cracked pot. I applaud Biden for telling him off.

Claiming the constitutional right to own guns is far from being a crackpot

biden is falling apart before our very eyes

 

[Mac-7]

The voter in Detroit accuses biden of planning to take guns and Sleepy Joe loses it

Joe Biden gets into testy exchange with man over gun rights - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)Joe Biden got into a testy exchange Tuesday with a worker in Detroit who falsely accused the former vice president of wanting to confiscate guns from Americans, a remark that caused the Democratic presidential hopeful to say the man was "full of s***."

Wrong.

Biden was spot on.

It’s sometimes necessary to use harsh language with the reprehensible right – to confront conservatives’ misinformation, demagoguery, and lies.

There was no misinformation of the gun owners part

 

[pknopp]

Biden wasn't wrong. And the dude was trying to troll Biden.

Obvious double standard. That, and it is any voter's right to "troll" a candidate for office on issues that matter to him most. Limiting the Second Amendment is removing it or taking it away in the minds of many Americans. Defense of Biden's mental decay in any capacity is highly disingenuous. You want him to get the nomination and go on to win the election. Thus, you likely don't care in the least about his health.

The double standard clearly runs both ways here.

 

[MacTheKnife]

The voter in Detroit accuses biden of planning to take guns and Sleepy Joe loses it

Joe Biden gets into testy exchange with man over gun rights - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)Joe Biden got into a testy exchange Tuesday with a worker in Detroit who falsely accused the former vice president of wanting to confiscate guns from Americans, a remark that caused the Democratic presidential hopeful to say the man was "full of s***."

Yet liberals want to claim biden is just oh so decent.

 

[Lakhota]

Who lies most - NaziCons or Russian bots? Biden was right. It's called fighting back. You know - like Trump does...

 

[theHawk]

Who lies most - NaziCons or Russian bots? Biden was right. It's called fighting back. You know - like Trump does...

Too afraid to watch the video eh?

Old Joe is completely senile. But, the DNC put all their eggs in that basket case, now you must defend him. Honestly your only hope is he totally falls apart by June and drops out. Then your overlords at the DNC can choose who your master will be.

 

[Winco]

Old Joe is completely senile.

The new RWI talking point.

 

[Mac1958]

Well, the GOP play for the next eight months will obviously be "Joe is senile".

The Dems will be hammering on the virus and pointing at every bit of bad economic news.

Another uplifting, inspiring, impressive, intellectually powerful presidential campaign season.
.

 

[XponentialChaos]

There's absolutely nothing that Biden could have said that would have earned that guy's vote or anyone like him. Gun nuts already have their minds made up, by a mile.

So go ahead and tell them that they're full of shit. Doesn't make a difference.

 

[MAGAman]

Biden wasn't wrong. And the dude was trying to troll Biden.

He succeeded.

Bidens flashes of violent dementia was exposed again.

At least he didn't call him a dogfaced pony soldier.

Biden is too unstable to have the football.

 

[it_is_the_light]

 

[Mac-7]

Sleepy Joe is nuts!

Biden is REALLY losing it

even calling an ar-14 instead of an ar-15

he also said is sons have guns when he only has one son

heres the deal, biden has a 20 gage shotgun

but if anyone ever tries to harm him one of his armed bodyguards will shoot the attacker and biden will not need his own gun

I call on every gun grabber in America sitting their fat ass in public office to give up armed police protection and just rely on calling 911 if someone tries to kill them

“We’re gonna take your AR-14?”

LOL.

I can’t wait for Quid Pro Joe to debate the Donald!

Biden has a serious mental problem and its getting worse during this campaign

 

[JoeB131]

The voter in Detroit accuses biden of planning to take guns and Sleepy Joe loses it

Joe Biden gets into testy exchange with man over gun rights - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)Joe Biden got into a testy exchange Tuesday with a worker in Detroit who falsely accused the former vice president of wanting to confiscate guns from Americans, a remark that caused the Democratic presidential hopeful to say the man was "full of s***."

Awesome. We finally got a Democrat who is going to stand up to the fucking gun nuts.

The guy was full of shit. No one has proposed gun confiscation.