Joe Biden's Ukraine Scandal

[OKTexas]

Ok, let's go with that, military aid is a gift also, you can't have it both ways. If Biden can withhold a gift, so can Trump.

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Let's look at this from that angle.

The "Gift" that Biden was threatening to withhold was a gift from Congress and it would have been Congress that would have cancelled or withheld it. Not Biden or even President Obama. Biden had the full support of the Republican Congress for his action.

The "Gift" that Rump was withholding was a "Gift" authorized already by Congress. It wasn't his to deny. He could only delay it until the time ran out to get it to Ukraine. The money was from Congress, not Rump. Rump used it for a personal favor request from a country that is scared shitless (and reasonably so) to grant him that personal favor.

What part of that don't you understand?

Post the law that authorized the military aid, along with the conditions congress placed on the aid. Let's see what latitude the appropriation gave the administration and if Trumps delay violated those conditions, with the 55 day hold.

Also show me where the president is required, by the Constitution, to spend every dime congress appropriates.

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Yeah; I don’t know that I’m qualified to read and interpret these nitty gritty details of legislation and federal regulations. This was all laid out in Laura Cooper’s testimony.

The last point I can comment on. The Impoundment Control Act of 1974 says the president has to spend the money appropriated by Congress.

Ok, so you don't know if the administration was in compliance or not. GOT IT!

Well, I have testimony under oath from the career official in charge of it. What do you have?

Yet you have yet to provide as single quote or link, go figure.

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[OKTexas]

All financial obligations have to be appropriated by congress, but they quite often build in conditions. But your opinion is irrelevant because you can't provide one Trump quote where he asked for anything for himself. Words and context have meaning, your opinion, not so much.

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Yes, they do build in conditions. Those conditions were met according to the DOD.

Trump asked for an investigation into Joe Biden. That was clearly for his benefit. Not ours.

Well hell, perhaps you commies should also include his signing the tax cuts to your impeachment articles as well, after all Trump benefited from them too. Just because a president gets a tangential benefit when he does something in the name of our country, doesn't make them illegal.

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Investigating Biden wasn’t a tangential benefit to him. It was the main goal.

Once again, your opinion isn't worth any more than mine. Show me, in the text of the call, where Trump asked for anything for himself. He asked for the benefit of the country, that's the way it was worded, it's as simple as that.

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And you believe Trump because?

I believe the actual text of the call, not peoples opinions of the call. Once again, words and context have meaning, your opinion, not so much.

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[jknowgood]

Why is Joe Biden being allowed to getaway with his Ukraine Scandal?
The Press is covering up Biden's crimes, and making up scandals about President Trump.
Should there is a formal investigation?

Joe Biden did nothing wrong. The "Ukraine Scandal" is all about President Trump trying to extort the Ukrainian President into announcing fake investigations into a made-up conspiracy theory.

How is the press making this up, when Trump himself has confessed to doing it, as has his Chief of Staff, and his attorney?

So video proof isn't good enough, but someone who never met Trump, is creditale proof?

There is a video of Biden doing what the Congress wanted him to do. And he did it with class and huspah. Something Rump never learned how to do.

There is a video of Biden bragging about going to Ukraine and strong arming a foreign leader with billions. To do what HE wanted. Even brought Obama into it. I didn't hear him bringing congress in it. Since the Republican controlled congess more than likely, knew nothing about it. I guess you haven't heard yet? Pelosi"s and Kerry's kids had a part in the millions to be made.

 

[colfax_m]

Yes, they do build in conditions. Those conditions were met according to the DOD.

Trump asked for an investigation into Joe Biden. That was clearly for his benefit. Not ours.

Well hell, perhaps you commies should also include his signing the tax cuts to your impeachment articles as well, after all Trump benefited from them too. Just because a president gets a tangential benefit when he does something in the name of our country, doesn't make them illegal.

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Investigating Biden wasn’t a tangential benefit to him. It was the main goal.

Once again, your opinion isn't worth any more than mine. Show me, in the text of the call, where Trump asked for anything for himself. He asked for the benefit of the country, that's the way it was worded, it's as simple as that.

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And you believe Trump because?

I believe the actual text of the call, not peoples opinions of the call. Once again, words and context have meaning, your opinion, not so much.

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They only have meaning to people who are honest and truthful.

Do you think Trump is honest and truthful?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Dems don't get held to the same standard as republicans.....I don't get it but I'm fing sick of it....

Ive seen Republicans demanding a taped confession from Trump when all they need for Biden is innuendo.

This is the 5th Ave syndrome.

We have a taped confession from Biden....He was bragging about it like he is some kind of a gangster thug....

At the direction and approval of the Republican Led US Congress. You want to go after all the Republicans as well, be my guest. Bet that would be a real party favorite.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why is Joe Biden being allowed to getaway with his Ukraine Scandal?
The Press is covering up Biden's crimes, and making up scandals about President Trump.
Should there is a formal investigation?

Joe Biden did nothing wrong. The "Ukraine Scandal" is all about President Trump trying to extort the Ukrainian President into announcing fake investigations into a made-up conspiracy theory.

How is the press making this up, when Trump himself has confessed to doing it, as has his Chief of Staff, and his attorney?

So video proof isn't good enough, but someone who never met Trump, is creditale proof?

There is a video of Biden doing what the Congress wanted him to do. And he did it with class and huspah. Something Rump never learned how to do.

There is a video of Biden bragging about going to Ukraine and strong arming a foreign leader with billions. To do what HE wanted. Even brought Obama into it. I didn't hear him bringing congress in it. Since the Republican controlled congess more than likely, knew nothing about it. I guess you haven't heard yet? Pelosi"s and Kerry's kids had a part in the millions to be made.

If, If, If, If. The fact is, Congress blocked the funds unless the Ukrainian Government cleaned up their act. Biden just reinforced the message. Yes, it's been a very long time since a real Statesman has been filmed doing his job. It's a bit strange a bit strange for you, isn't it being a Party of the Rump.

 

[Rambunctious]

At the direction and approval of the Republican Led US Congress

Bullcrap where did you get that from...Biden says in the video that Obama has his blessing and sent him their...the republicans had nothing to do with it....

 

[OKTexas]

Why is Joe Biden being allowed to getaway with his Ukraine Scandal?
The Press is covering up Biden's crimes, and making up scandals about President Trump.
Should there is a formal investigation?
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this “scandal” is completely made up by Trump. If there was anything to it than our law enforcement agencies, controlled by Trump and his people, would be doing something about it. You’ve been duped

Yet there is no explanation why baby biden was hired by Burisma two days after Devon Archer met with poppa joe in the WH in Apr 2014.

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[Daryl Hunt]

Yes, they do build in conditions. Those conditions were met according to the DOD.

Trump asked for an investigation into Joe Biden. That was clearly for his benefit. Not ours.

Well hell, perhaps you commies should also include his signing the tax cuts to your impeachment articles as well, after all Trump benefited from them too. Just because a president gets a tangential benefit when he does something in the name of our country, doesn't make them illegal.

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Investigating Biden wasn’t a tangential benefit to him. It was the main goal.

Once again, your opinion isn't worth any more than mine. Show me, in the text of the call, where Trump asked for anything for himself. He asked for the benefit of the country, that's the way it was worded, it's as simple as that.

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And you believe Trump because?

I believe the actual text of the call, not peoples opinions of the call. Once again, words and context have meaning, your opinion, not so much.

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The first phone call, you keep referring to. But the next call is the one where Rump hung himself out to dry. And he fully admitted to saying. Your Cite, Cite, Cite crap is well past it's sell by date. Move on, the milk is sour.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why is Joe Biden being allowed to getaway with his Ukraine Scandal?
The Press is covering up Biden's crimes, and making up scandals about President Trump.
Should there is a formal investigation?
View attachment 293715

this “scandal” is completely made up by Trump. If there was anything to it than our law enforcement agencies, controlled by Trump and his people, would be doing something about it. You’ve been duped

Yet there is no explanation why baby biden was hired by Burisma two days after Devon Archer met with poppa joe in the WH in Apr 2014.

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I suggest you take that up with Burisma. If they wish to waste all that money, it's a capitalist problem. And what the VP, the President, the Congress and most of the rest of the free world did happen before that. You don't like it, go live in Ukraine where you can bitch and moan about it where it might do you the most good.

 

[Uncensored2008]

How many people pushing the story on this Ukrainian scandal are either indicted or under federal investigation?

A lot.

Fucking liar.

Comrade, who is Alexandra Chalupa?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

At the direction and approval of the Republican Led US Congress

Bullcrap where did you get that from...Biden says in the video that Obama has his blessing and sent him their...the republicans had nothing to do with it....

You seem to conveniently not understand how the money is funded. it's not Biden or Obama that grants those funds. It's the US Congress and they had already stated their conditions to release the funds. Ukraine was NOT going to get those funds unless that person was fired and replaced. It wasn't until 2017 that congress removed them from the corrupt government list for defense offensive weapons funding. Presidents and VPs don't make that list, Congress makes that list and Biden was making the point in a statesman way. I guess you Party of Rumpers have forgotten what a real Stateman looks like. Small wonder.

 

[OKTexas]

Well hell, perhaps you commies should also include his signing the tax cuts to your impeachment articles as well, after all Trump benefited from them too. Just because a president gets a tangential benefit when he does something in the name of our country, doesn't make them illegal.

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Investigating Biden wasn’t a tangential benefit to him. It was the main goal.

Once again, your opinion isn't worth any more than mine. Show me, in the text of the call, where Trump asked for anything for himself. He asked for the benefit of the country, that's the way it was worded, it's as simple as that.

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And you believe Trump because?

I believe the actual text of the call, not peoples opinions of the call. Once again, words and context have meaning, your opinion, not so much.

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They only have meaning to people who are honest and truthful.

Do you think Trump is honest and truthful?

Why the deflection, you can't show with quotes that Trump asked anything for himself, yet you continue to ascribe meanings that aren't found in any dictionary, that is neither honest or truthful.

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[talksalot]

Why is Joe Biden being allowed to getaway with his Ukraine Scandal?
The Press is covering up Biden's crimes, and making up scandals about President Trump.
Should there is a formal investigation?
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How many people pushing the story on this Ukrainian scandal are either indicted or under federal investigation?

A lot.

But not the Biden's. Joe Biden bragged about holding up aid until a prosecutor was fired, been aired a million times so there's no question about it. Hunter Biden was paid enormous sums to do nothing, both in Ukraine and China. Maybe the problem is that Republicans in the past just allowed this kind of thing to go on. President Trump has brought it to light and wants it investigated. Apparently, that has to be punished.

Democrats have always been corrupt sleazeballs and Republican pussies have either been in on it or afraid to stand up. President Trump has truly upset the status quo. No wonder he's so hated by the swamp, but he has the support of the people. He needs to be re-elected so he can continue draining the swamp.

 

[OKTexas]

Well hell, perhaps you commies should also include his signing the tax cuts to your impeachment articles as well, after all Trump benefited from them too. Just because a president gets a tangential benefit when he does something in the name of our country, doesn't make them illegal.

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Investigating Biden wasn’t a tangential benefit to him. It was the main goal.

Once again, your opinion isn't worth any more than mine. Show me, in the text of the call, where Trump asked for anything for himself. He asked for the benefit of the country, that's the way it was worded, it's as simple as that.

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And you believe Trump because?

I believe the actual text of the call, not peoples opinions of the call. Once again, words and context have meaning, your opinion, not so much.

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The first phone call, you keep referring to. But the next call is the one where Rump hung himself out to dry. And he fully admitted to saying. Your Cite, Cite, Cite crap is well past it's sell by date. Move on, the milk is sour.

See post 73.

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[OKTexas]

Why is Joe Biden being allowed to getaway with his Ukraine Scandal?
The Press is covering up Biden's crimes, and making up scandals about President Trump.
Should there is a formal investigation?
View attachment 293715

this “scandal” is completely made up by Trump. If there was anything to it than our law enforcement agencies, controlled by Trump and his people, would be doing something about it. You’ve been duped

Yet there is no explanation why baby biden was hired by Burisma two days after Devon Archer met with poppa joe in the WH in Apr 2014.

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I suggest you take that up with Burisma. If they wish to waste all that money, it's a capitalist problem. And what the VP, the President, the Congress and most of the rest of the free world did happen before that. You don't like it, go live in Ukraine where you can bitch and moan about it where it might do you the most good.

You might want to check your calendar liar. You sequencing is all f'ed up.

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[Daryl Hunt]

Investigating Biden wasn’t a tangential benefit to him. It was the main goal.

Once again, your opinion isn't worth any more than mine. Show me, in the text of the call, where Trump asked for anything for himself. He asked for the benefit of the country, that's the way it was worded, it's as simple as that.

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And you believe Trump because?

I believe the actual text of the call, not peoples opinions of the call. Once again, words and context have meaning, your opinion, not so much.

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The first phone call, you keep referring to. But the next call is the one where Rump hung himself out to dry. And he fully admitted to saying. Your Cite, Cite, Cite crap is well past it's sell by date. Move on, the milk is sour.

See post 73.

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Got your post 73 hangin

 

[Slade3200]

Why is Joe Biden being allowed to getaway with his Ukraine Scandal?
The Press is covering up Biden's crimes, and making up scandals about President Trump.
Should there is a formal investigation?
View attachment 293715

this “scandal” is completely made up by Trump. If there was anything to it than our law enforcement agencies, controlled by Trump and his people, would be doing something about it. You’ve been duped

Yet there is no explanation why baby biden was hired by Burisma two days after Devon Archer met with poppa joe in the WH in Apr 2014.

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Why does there need to be an explanation? Go ask Burisma or ask Hunter. If they don’t want to answer you then it’s none of your business. Doesn’t make it a scandal.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why is Joe Biden being allowed to getaway with his Ukraine Scandal?
The Press is covering up Biden's crimes, and making up scandals about President Trump.
Should there is a formal investigation?
View attachment 293715

this “scandal” is completely made up by Trump. If there was anything to it than our law enforcement agencies, controlled by Trump and his people, would be doing something about it. You’ve been duped

Yet there is no explanation why baby biden was hired by Burisma two days after Devon Archer met with poppa joe in the WH in Apr 2014.

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I suggest you take that up with Burisma. If they wish to waste all that money, it's a capitalist problem. And what the VP, the President, the Congress and most of the rest of the free world did happen before that. You don't like it, go live in Ukraine where you can bitch and moan about it where it might do you the most good.

You might want to check you calendar liar. You sequencing is all f'ed up.

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Your stupidity is well past it's sell by date. The milk is sour.

You just can't stand it that Rump was caught with his tiny hands in the cookie jar.

 

[Ken Mac]

At the direction and approval of the Republican Led US Congress

Bullcrap where did you get that from...Biden says in the video that Obama has his blessing and sent him their...the republicans had nothing to do with it....

You seem to conveniently not understand how the money is funded. it's not Biden or Obama that grants those funds. It's the US Congress and they had already stated their conditions to release the funds. Ukraine was NOT going to get those funds unless that person was fired and replaced. It wasn't until 2017 that congress removed them from the corrupt government list for defense offensive weapons funding. Presidents and VPs don't make that list, Congress makes that list and Biden was making the point in a statesman way. I guess you Party of Rumpers have forgotten what a real Stateman looks like. Small wonder.