John Kerry: We could have shot the jet down.

[1stRambo]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Yo, they know they can do it, and nothing will happen, they learned this from N. Korea and Iran!!!

"GTP"
It Comes Down To The Balless President!
Turkey Didn`t Mess Around! Blew That Bitch Out Of The Sky!
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There weren't any bombs. It wasn't aggression. You are completely full of shit and I'm extremely glad no one with your ultra sensitivity is Commander in Chief. Look at you funny and watch out boy!

Yo, Typical Mini Socialist Democrat Puppet Pussy!!!

"GTP"

 

[Avatar4321]

Isn't it odd that a BULLSHIT country like Turkey can shoot down a Russian Jet that they say was threatening their airspace, and NOTHING HAPPENED from the great Putin, but he can sure SCARE THE SHIT out of the Obomanation! Shoot the Russian out of the sky for THREATENING us, and see what Putin will do.... If he backed off from a 2 bit dictator from Turkey, would he be afraid of the President of the only SuperPower?????......Excuse me while I

I think shooting the plane down shows we are afraid. Staring them down shows Putin he isn't worth the ammo

 

[1stRambo]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Yo, they know they can do it, and nothing will happen, they learned this from N. Korea and Iran!!!

"GTP"
It Comes Down To The Balless President!
Turkey Didn`t Mess Around! Blew That Bitch Out Of The Sky!
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There weren't any bombs. It wasn't aggression. You are completely full of shit and I'm extremely glad no one with your ultra sensitivity is Commander in Chief. Look at you funny and watch out boy!

perhaps kaz would be satisfied if obama issued an order to shoot any plane that comes that close,out of the air?

Yo, your post seems logical? But Obama is a Half & Half, take it anyway you wish!

"GTP"

 

[HappyJoy]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

No...But we should have found a naval vessel of their and buzzed it.
Obama should have been on the phone with Putin within minutes and said "Mr Premier, what are you doing? Trying to start a confrontation we both know we do not want?
Then Obama should have told Putin he was willing to consider the event an "error".
Then told him, "look, bad things happen all the time. The world is an imperfect place." and hung up the phone.
of course Putin did this purposely. he knows Obama isn't going to do anything. Putin knows all about Obama's Neville Chamberlain tea and cookies diplomacy.
Putin is ex KGB....The only thing guys like Putin recognize is force met with force.

What? You want to teach Putin that the best way to get the President on the phone is to buzz our military?

Man, that is just one of many dumb things you guys have said in this thread.

Seems the other way around, Obama can't get Putin to return his calls

Oh, hey, it's the war monger himself.

 

[kaz]

So you think the because I think the rules of engagement in a contentious area with the Russians came from the top? That means I'm clueless? Wow, you just proved how clueless you are

Now you're making shit up. Come here straw man...I got a match!

So you were never in any branch of the military, eh? Why am I not surprised!

So just to be clear, you are saying that the ROEs for a ship off the Russian coast would not have gone to Obama and Kerry for signoff. You seriously believe that? Feel behind your ears, it is actually wet, isn't it?

Don't be fucking absurd! Get out of that armchair Admiral/General! Even LBJ and Robert McNamara didn't get that far into the weeds during the Vietnam War to get right down to individual units and destroyers. Get some more of that aluminum foil for your hats! How many black helicopter have you seen today? DAMN!!!!

That's adorable, I'm glad there are still such innocent people like you in the world. A throwback to a simpler day when the world was so much more clear.

NATO war games in Eastern Europe by the Russian coast and you think it's a low level decision whether to shoot down a Russian jet or not when they've been buzzing our ships already. Oh, the pretty nurse is here to feed you, I'll catch up with you later ...

Hey, shit for brains, SecState (Kerry) has NEVER been in the US Navy's chain of command. NEVER IDIOT. Claiming that is fucking IGNORANT and displays your abject IGNORANCE of the US Navy's command structure. That cabinet slot in the chain would be reserved for SecNav, twit!

Obviously, you have never been in the Navy, or any other branch, and are not cognizant of the US Navy's command structure. POTUS is in the chain of command, but sure as Hell does not get involved in micro-management of routine mission assignments, fool! And where would POTUS find the time to micro-manage all of the strategic and tactical military assets abroad, dummy?

Educate yourself and review the basic multilayered US Navy command structure from the CNO down by reviewing the site directly below. It is many tiers deep just starting at the CNO down to the unit commander, and doesn't include the layers above the CNO up to POTUS!
US Navy Organization - Mission of the Navy

Your false bravado and stupid, stupid uninformed assertion that Kerry and Obama somehow got together and gave specific detailed direct orders to that Navy Commander commanding that destroyer is nothing but hot air from an ignorant know-it-all...that would be you, Kaz!

In the Lebanon barracks bombing, it was the State department that got the policy that guns don't carry arms which stopped them from stopping the bomber.

Your view that the ROEs for the Russians when we are on their border and they're buzzing our ships isn't a political and diplomatic (State Department) issue is ridiculous for just a functioning adult. But you say that and claim to have been in the military? You're just clueless and out of touch with reality

 

[kaz]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

No...But we should have found a naval vessel of their and buzzed it.
Obama should have been on the phone with Putin within minutes and said "Mr Premier, what are you doing? Trying to start a confrontation we both know we do not want?
Then Obama should have told Putin he was willing to consider the event an "error".
Then told him, "look, bad things happen all the time. The world is an imperfect place." and hung up the phone.
of course Putin did this purposely. he knows Obama isn't going to do anything. Putin knows all about Obama's Neville Chamberlain tea and cookies diplomacy.
Putin is ex KGB....The only thing guys like Putin recognize is force met with force.

What? You want to teach Putin that the best way to get the President on the phone is to buzz our military?

Man, that is just one of many dumb things you guys have said in this thread.

Seems the other way around, Obama can't get Putin to return his calls

Oh, hey, it's the war monger himself.

You get wars when you aren't prepared for them

 

[HappyJoy]

Duck?

if prepared and cooked properly they actually are very good eating.

Never been a fan.

 

[HappyJoy]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

No...But we should have found a naval vessel of their and buzzed it.
Obama should have been on the phone with Putin within minutes and said "Mr Premier, what are you doing? Trying to start a confrontation we both know we do not want?
Then Obama should have told Putin he was willing to consider the event an "error".
Then told him, "look, bad things happen all the time. The world is an imperfect place." and hung up the phone.
of course Putin did this purposely. he knows Obama isn't going to do anything. Putin knows all about Obama's Neville Chamberlain tea and cookies diplomacy.
Putin is ex KGB....The only thing guys like Putin recognize is force met with force.

What? You want to teach Putin that the best way to get the President on the phone is to buzz our military?

Man, that is just one of many dumb things you guys have said in this thread.

Seems the other way around, Obama can't get Putin to return his calls

Oh, hey, it's the war monger himself.

You get wars when you aren't prepared for them

According to you, you get wars for every minor interaction with other countries.

 

[Bleipriester]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Apparently, the jet did not carry out hostilities.

F'ing what? It flew within 30 feet of our ship, what would be hostile?

Turkey drew a line and backed it up. Have the Russians invaded Turkey? This is why they are doing this, they are pushing further and further to find out where the line is. You really think that with today's technology Russia couldn't say out of Turkish airspace?

There's only one way to draw a line. I'm not saying to shoot down every Russian plane that flies too close to an American ship. Not saying that at all. But there is a point where it's not feasible we let them that close to our military, that plane went well past that line

Think further. Provocation, saying hello, whatever. If the Russian plane would been downed, what would have been the consequence? A step further to a cold war or retaliation? There is no point in shooting the jet.

Lighthouse and naval vessel urban legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[kaz]

No...But we should have found a naval vessel of their and buzzed it.
Obama should have been on the phone with Putin within minutes and said "Mr Premier, what are you doing? Trying to start a confrontation we both know we do not want?
Then Obama should have told Putin he was willing to consider the event an "error".
Then told him, "look, bad things happen all the time. The world is an imperfect place." and hung up the phone.
of course Putin did this purposely. he knows Obama isn't going to do anything. Putin knows all about Obama's Neville Chamberlain tea and cookies diplomacy.
Putin is ex KGB....The only thing guys like Putin recognize is force met with force.

What? You want to teach Putin that the best way to get the President on the phone is to buzz our military?

Man, that is just one of many dumb things you guys have said in this thread.

Seems the other way around, Obama can't get Putin to return his calls

Oh, hey, it's the war monger himself.

You get wars when you aren't prepared for them

According to you, you get wars for every minor interaction with other countries.

More hyperbole from the retard party

 

[HappyJoy]

What? You want to teach Putin that the best way to get the President on the phone is to buzz our military?

Man, that is just one of many dumb things you guys have said in this thread.

Seems the other way around, Obama can't get Putin to return his calls

Oh, hey, it's the war monger himself.

You get wars when you aren't prepared for them

According to you, you get wars for every minor interaction with other countries.

More hyperbole from the retard party

Your OP and this thread is nothing more than hyperbole.

Should we have shot down that Russian Jet? Hell yeah!

Idiot.

 

[kaz]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Apparently, the jet did not carry out hostilities.

F'ing what? It flew within 30 feet of our ship, what would be hostile?

Turkey drew a line and backed it up. Have the Russians invaded Turkey? This is why they are doing this, they are pushing further and further to find out where the line is. You really think that with today's technology Russia couldn't say out of Turkish airspace?

There's only one way to draw a line. I'm not saying to shoot down every Russian plane that flies too close to an American ship. Not saying that at all. But there is a point where it's not feasible we let them that close to our military, that plane went well past that line

Think further. Provocation, saying hello, whatever. If the Russian plane would been downed, what would have been the consequence? A step further to a cold war or retaliation? There is no point in shooting the jet.

Lighthouse and naval vessel urban legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's hilarious how you people keep thinking, OMG, Putin could get mad. Obviously he's doing this because he thinks our President is a pussy.

So seriously, Putin is like, I'm going to send a plane to fly 30 feet from their ship in a dangerous intimidation, but OMG, we react and he's going to get mad!

Putin gets it, you don't, Obama doesn't

 

[kaz]

Seems the other way around, Obama can't get Putin to return his calls

Oh, hey, it's the war monger himself.

You get wars when you aren't prepared for them

According to you, you get wars for every minor interaction with other countries.

More hyperbole from the retard party

Your OP and this thread is nothing more than hyperbole.

Should we have shot down that Russian Jet? Hell yeah!

Idiot.

Hyperbole? Shooting at planes in attack formation flying yards from our ships? You're an idiot

 

[OldLady]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Yo, they know they can do it, and nothing will happen, they learned this from N. Korea and Iran!!!

"GTP"
It Comes Down To The Balless President!
Turkey Didn`t Mess Around! Blew That Bitch Out Of The Sky!
View attachment 71512

There weren't any bombs. It wasn't aggression. You are completely full of shit and I'm extremely glad no one with your ultra sensitivity is Commander in Chief. Look at you funny and watch out boy!

Yo, Typical Mini Socialist Democrat Puppet Pussy!!!

"GTP"
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"Got to Pee?" Okay, you're excused.

 

[OldLady]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Apparently, the jet did not carry out hostilities.

F'ing what? It flew within 30 feet of our ship, what would be hostile?

Turkey drew a line and backed it up. Have the Russians invaded Turkey? This is why they are doing this, they are pushing further and further to find out where the line is. You really think that with today's technology Russia couldn't say out of Turkish airspace?

There's only one way to draw a line. I'm not saying to shoot down every Russian plane that flies too close to an American ship. Not saying that at all. But there is a point where it's not feasible we let them that close to our military, that plane went well past that line

Think further. Provocation, saying hello, whatever. If the Russian plane would been downed, what would have been the consequence? A step further to a cold war or retaliation? There is no point in shooting the jet.

Lighthouse and naval vessel urban legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's hilarious how you people keep thinking, OMG, Putin could get mad. Obviously he's doing this because he thinks our President is a pussy.

So seriously, Putin is like, I'm going to send a plane to fly 30 feet from their ship in a dangerous intimidation, but OMG, we react and he's going to get mad!

Putin gets it, you don't, Obama doesn't

You think Putin himself is calling and telling his commanders to pull these stunts? He's probably got better things to do, as does our Commander in Chief.

 

[Freewill]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Apparently, the jet did not carry out hostilities.

F'ing what? It flew within 30 feet of our ship, what would be hostile?

Turkey drew a line and backed it up. Have the Russians invaded Turkey? This is why they are doing this, they are pushing further and further to find out where the line is. You really think that with today's technology Russia couldn't say out of Turkish airspace?

There's only one way to draw a line. I'm not saying to shoot down every Russian plane that flies too close to an American ship. Not saying that at all. But there is a point where it's not feasible we let them that close to our military, that plane went well past that line

Think further. Provocation, saying hello, whatever. If the Russian plane would been downed, what would have been the consequence? A step further to a cold war or retaliation? There is no point in shooting the jet.

Lighthouse and naval vessel urban legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's hilarious how you people keep thinking, OMG, Putin could get mad. Obviously he's doing this because he thinks our President is a pussy.

So seriously, Putin is like, I'm going to send a plane to fly 30 feet from their ship in a dangerous intimidation, but OMG, we react and he's going to get mad!

Putin gets it, you don't, Obama doesn't

You think Putin himself is calling and telling his commanders to pull these stunts? He's probably got better things to do, as does our Commander in Chief.

If Putin had nothing to do with the provocation then he should be denouncing it today. Much like Obama should denounce Mrs. Tuzla Clinton's actions at Benghazi, if he had nothing to do with them.

 

[Bleipriester]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Apparently, the jet did not carry out hostilities.

F'ing what? It flew within 30 feet of our ship, what would be hostile?

Turkey drew a line and backed it up. Have the Russians invaded Turkey? This is why they are doing this, they are pushing further and further to find out where the line is. You really think that with today's technology Russia couldn't say out of Turkish airspace?

There's only one way to draw a line. I'm not saying to shoot down every Russian plane that flies too close to an American ship. Not saying that at all. But there is a point where it's not feasible we let them that close to our military, that plane went well past that line

Think further. Provocation, saying hello, whatever. If the Russian plane would been downed, what would have been the consequence? A step further to a cold war or retaliation? There is no point in shooting the jet.

Lighthouse and naval vessel urban legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's hilarious how you people keep thinking, OMG, Putin could get mad. Obviously he's doing this because he thinks our President is a pussy.

So seriously, Putin is like, I'm going to send a plane to fly 30 feet from their ship in a dangerous intimidation, but OMG, we react and he's going to get mad!

Putin gets it, you don't, Obama doesn't

So what if an attack on the jet fails and the Russian unloads a big bomb on the vessel. How looks Obama then? How many people have to die to enforce the virtual sovereign territory around a US vessel?

 

[OldLady]

Apparently, the jet did not carry out hostilities.

F'ing what? It flew within 30 feet of our ship, what would be hostile?

Turkey drew a line and backed it up. Have the Russians invaded Turkey? This is why they are doing this, they are pushing further and further to find out where the line is. You really think that with today's technology Russia couldn't say out of Turkish airspace?

There's only one way to draw a line. I'm not saying to shoot down every Russian plane that flies too close to an American ship. Not saying that at all. But there is a point where it's not feasible we let them that close to our military, that plane went well past that line

Think further. Provocation, saying hello, whatever. If the Russian plane would been downed, what would have been the consequence? A step further to a cold war or retaliation? There is no point in shooting the jet.

Lighthouse and naval vessel urban legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's hilarious how you people keep thinking, OMG, Putin could get mad. Obviously he's doing this because he thinks our President is a pussy.

So seriously, Putin is like, I'm going to send a plane to fly 30 feet from their ship in a dangerous intimidation, but OMG, we react and he's going to get mad!

Putin gets it, you don't, Obama doesn't

You think Putin himself is calling and telling his commanders to pull these stunts? He's probably got better things to do, as does our Commander in Chief.

If Putin had nothing to do with the provocation then he should be denouncing it today. Much like Obama should denounce Mrs. Tuzla Clinton's actions at Benghazi, if he had nothing to do with them.

It didn't rise to the level of provocation and how do you know he didn't make a call and tell the commander "Comrade, knock it off." Kaz and his friends who dream of exploding the world and look for every excuse are the only ones who were provoked. This has nothing to do with Obama or Putin personally. I truly don't believe Putin is micromanaging training exercises in the Baltic and he's got nothing to denounce, at least not publicly.

 

[Freewill]

F'ing what? It flew within 30 feet of our ship, what would be hostile?

Turkey drew a line and backed it up. Have the Russians invaded Turkey? This is why they are doing this, they are pushing further and further to find out where the line is. You really think that with today's technology Russia couldn't say out of Turkish airspace?

There's only one way to draw a line. I'm not saying to shoot down every Russian plane that flies too close to an American ship. Not saying that at all. But there is a point where it's not feasible we let them that close to our military, that plane went well past that line

Think further. Provocation, saying hello, whatever. If the Russian plane would been downed, what would have been the consequence? A step further to a cold war or retaliation? There is no point in shooting the jet.

Lighthouse and naval vessel urban legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's hilarious how you people keep thinking, OMG, Putin could get mad. Obviously he's doing this because he thinks our President is a pussy.

So seriously, Putin is like, I'm going to send a plane to fly 30 feet from their ship in a dangerous intimidation, but OMG, we react and he's going to get mad!

Putin gets it, you don't, Obama doesn't

You think Putin himself is calling and telling his commanders to pull these stunts? He's probably got better things to do, as does our Commander in Chief.

If Putin had nothing to do with the provocation then he should be denouncing it today. Much like Obama should denounce Mrs. Tuzla Clinton's actions at Benghazi, if he had nothing to do with them.

It didn't rise to the level of provocation and how do you know he didn't make a call and tell the commander "Comrade, knock it off." Kaz and his friends who dream of exploding the world and look for every excuse are the only ones who were provoked. This has nothing to do with Obama or Putin personally. I truly don't believe Putin is micromanaging training exercises in the Baltic and he's got nothing to denounce, at least not publicly.

Flying a fighter jet within 40 feet of a warship is not provocation? Really? Then what in the hell would you call it? A mistake?

 

[kaz]

I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Apparently, the jet did not carry out hostilities.

F'ing what? It flew within 30 feet of our ship, what would be hostile?

Turkey drew a line and backed it up. Have the Russians invaded Turkey? This is why they are doing this, they are pushing further and further to find out where the line is. You really think that with today's technology Russia couldn't say out of Turkish airspace?

There's only one way to draw a line. I'm not saying to shoot down every Russian plane that flies too close to an American ship. Not saying that at all. But there is a point where it's not feasible we let them that close to our military, that plane went well past that line

Think further. Provocation, saying hello, whatever. If the Russian plane would been downed, what would have been the consequence? A step further to a cold war or retaliation? There is no point in shooting the jet.

Lighthouse and naval vessel urban legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's hilarious how you people keep thinking, OMG, Putin could get mad. Obviously he's doing this because he thinks our President is a pussy.

So seriously, Putin is like, I'm going to send a plane to fly 30 feet from their ship in a dangerous intimidation, but OMG, we react and he's going to get mad!

Putin gets it, you don't, Obama doesn't

You think Putin himself is calling and telling his commanders to pull these stunts? He's probably got better things to do, as does our Commander in Chief.

Putin and Obama have better things to do than this? Seriously? You are clueless