Judge Halts Wyoming Abortion Ban Days After It Took Effect

I happen to be pro choice but biologists agree that a life actually begins at conception. A fertilized human ovum is human life.

The real legal and moral, if you want to use that word, question is when is a fetus a person?

Personally, and philosophically I think that a fetus attains personhood when its organs and nervous system are fully developed and it is capable of surviving outside the womb.
Even then it is still not self-aware.
 
There is no self awareness. Whatever you believe to exist does not even know it exists.
Oh well - lack of knowledge of your own existence doesn’t somehow mean that you don’t exist, retard.

Or that harming you somehow magically becomes just because you are helpless and innocent.
 
Oh well - lack of knowledge of your own existence doesn’t somehow mean that you don’t exist, retard.

Or that harming you somehow magically becomes just because you are helpless and innocent.
There's no magic about it. Women get pregnant. If the woman wants a child she does everything she can to ensure that the pregnancy goes well. But what if with all this effort she discovers in her third trimester checkup that the fetus has Down's Syndrome. She doesn't want the child anymore, she doesn't want a forever child and doesn't feel she could handle it. So she has an abortion like 70% of women in her situation do. Are you saying she doesn't have the right to do so. Or are you saying it's just not your choice.
 
If the woman wants a child she does everything she can to ensure that the pregnancy goes well. But what if with all this effort she discovers in her third trimester checkup that the fetus has Down's Syndrome. She doesn't want the child anymore, she doesn't want a forever child and doesn't feel she could handle it.
What you’re describing is a eugenicist monster who - if she kills her own kid because she or the father (most likely the mother though) gave him or her one too many chromosomes - we should put in prison until she thankfully dies, ridding the planet of her wickedness.

Execution would also be just fine for this piece of shit, though, and meets the criteria above.
 
What you’re describing is a eugenicist monster who - if she kills her own kid because she or the father (most likely the mother though) gave him or her one too many chromosomes - we should put in prison until she thankfully dies, ridding the planet of her wickedness.

Execution would also be just fine for this piece of shit, though, and meets the criteria above.
I would hate to live in a world where your opinion was the basis for any laws. I believe it's a crime to purposely bring such individuals into this world. What you believe would be a nightmare for most of these women so remember 70 % choose abortion.in this scenario. You'd be locking a lot of women up who simply made a different choice than you.
 
Eventually and hopefully if it's wanted and loved. Otherwise it's a matter of choice.
The viable fetus will develop consciousness and self awareness whether it is loved or not.

As long as it is alive it will develop consciousness and self awareness.
 
The viable fetus will develop consciousness and self awareness whether it is loved or not.

As long as it is alive it will develop consciousness and self awareness.
I guess you don't know about the Bulgarian children who were raised without love in institutions
They all turned into unfeeling monsters. It would have been better if they were never born.
 
I guess you don't know about the Bulgarian children who were raised without love in institutions
They all turned into unfeeling monsters. It would have been better if they were never born.

Did they have consciousness and self awareness? The quality of the personality was not the issue.
 
There's no magic about it. Women get pregnant. If the woman wants a child she does everything she can to ensure that the pregnancy goes well. But what if with all this effort she discovers in her third trimester checkup that the fetus has Down's Syndrome. She doesn't want the child anymore, she doesn't want a forever child and doesn't feel she could handle it. So she has an abortion like 70% of women in her situation do. Are you saying she doesn't have the right to do so. Or are you saying it's just not your choice.
She is just being a selfish bitch then. That blunt enough for you?
 
Being pro life means human life at all stages., not just born, asswipe.

being pro life means that a post born child also deserves food, medicine, education, housing, & clothing,

those who profess to be pro life always votes no to raise the needed taxes to fund all that a child deserves; AND always votes to protect the 2nd amendment over the 2nd grader who doesn't want to be turned into swiss cheese by an AR 15.
 

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