Judge Imposes Sanction on Fox for Withholding Evidence in Defamation Case

[Faun]

America needs to get away from using machines to determine elections. Too many things have become too reliant on high-tech, when simple low-tech ways were as functional, and less subject to failure.

So you think people should have to manually count 160 million ballots?

How long will that take.

How error prone is that.

How available to cheating is that?

 

[Faun]

You're not exposing, you are PROJECTING!
All you are doing is talking shit, that's all.
No proof, no evidence, just declarations.
Hints and allegations.
A lot of that kind of talk led to atrocities in the past, do you have the BALLS to back up your accusations with SOLUTIONS????
DO YOU????

Seems you're the one projecting. Earlier, you posted...

That's the problem with you demented LEFT zombies...

So what are YOU gonna do about all these "demented LEFT zombies?" What's YOUR final solution?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Seems you're the one projecting. Earlier, you posted...

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So what are YOU gonna do about all these "demented LEFT zombies?" What's YOUR final solution?

Calling out you subverted assholes is all I can do.
That, and post PROOF of how your eggs got scrambled.
Yuri Bezmenov warned us about YOU!

 

[Faun]

Calling out you subverted assholes is all I can do.
That, and post PROOF of how your eggs got scrambled.
Yuri Bezmenov warned us about YOU!

Which is what others do when calling y'all out as deplorable. But you seem to think that means we have some Hitleresque plan for deplorables. And when it's pointed out to you, we're just calling you out, you keep prodding to know what our "final solution" is. Sounds more lime you've got your own ideas what should be done with us.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Which is what others do when calling y'all out as deplorable. But you seem to think that means we have some Hitleresque plan for deplorables. And when it's pointed out to you, we're just calling you out, you keep prodding to know what our "final solution" is. Sounds more lime you've got your own ideas what should be done with us.

Fair point, but you demented zombies are ruining this once great nation and are pushing the SAME Marxist BULLSHIT that fucked up your minds.
The MAJORITY of the country does NOT want that putrid ideology in our governance or our lives!

 

[bodecea]

Sheesh.. imagine if you could sue left wing news organizations, the Democrat Party, the medical industry, the pharmaceutical industry, several departments of government and individuals over Covid lies. They could be sued to non-existence and Wow .. the lies are premeditated and endless.

Why don't you?

 

[bodecea]

No, they did it for Donald right out of the gate. They hitched their wagon to him at the very beginning of his 2016 campaign.

Christ, they would interrupt their regular programs to air a half hour of his empty lectern!

Only too late did they realize they had chained themselves to a monster.

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I don't think they realize it yet.

 

[bodecea]

Fair point, but you demented zombies are ruining this once great nation and are pushing the SAME Marxist BULLSHIT that fucked up your minds.
The MAJORITY of the country does NOT want that putrid ideology in our governance or our lives!

Define "marxism" for us.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Define "marxism" for us.

Not playing that game. Look in the mirror.

 

[Father O'Blivion]

There are a lot of people on Fox that I disagree with. But imo Tucker Carlson is the best thing we have on the main stream news seemingly the only guy who stands up to the madness of the left wing news outlets …. he does things that other people on fox don’t do. That being said there’s a lot of independent YouTube channels I watch and they’re probably more conservative than many of the things Fox puts out. But it’s not just conservatism I’m interested in …I’m interested in liberalism and traditional democrat values and I get a lot of that from Tucker Carlson and from many independent YouTube channels …

Frankly a lot of what I do is watch old school American videos from the World War II era and that really gives me a lot of motivation…. well back in those days our country had so much more dignity and honor. I watch a lot of videos from Bethlehem steel , Many old videos showing our great steel and auto days they give me inspiration. But those are not current event things

If not Fox News then what news outlets do you think are conservative? Or I could also ask what news outlets do you listen to that oppose the madness we see at CNN and MSNBC?

Perhaps you could try for news that is not obviously partisan? May I suggest AP and Reuters? They are not perfect, but seem to put an effort into simply reporting stories. News Nation seems to be attempting it as well.

 

[Faun]

Fair point, but you demented zombies are ruining this once great nation and are pushing the SAME Marxist BULLSHIT that fucked up your minds.
The MAJORITY of the country does NOT want that putrid ideology in our governance or our lives!

Look, I can respect your position that from your perspective, we're ruining the country. But don't lose sight that from our perspective, that's what you're doing.

As far as what a majority wants, it's pretty much evenly split. Your side doesn't want our "putrid ideology," but our side doesn't want your "deplorable ideology." The fact is, we're stuck with each other. The country is not gonna be split into two so we need to figure out a way how to get along or it will be the end of us.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Fair point, but you demented zombies are ruining this once great nation and are pushing the SAME Marxist BULLSHIT that fucked up your minds.
The MAJORITY of the country does NOT want that putrid ideology in our governance or our lives!

Hmmm...Marxist eh? I'd appreciate you enumerating exactly where that's being pushed and how? Perhaps it's the Dictatorship of the Proletariat that has you baffled?
It is my contention that you know nothing of Marxism..that you just use the word as a pejorative.
While one can make the argument that Socialism informs some left Wing agendas...only a few people advocate a Marxist solution...or even a Socialist one.
Most of us prefer enlightened Capitalism as an economic model..for Govt. I favor impartial Meritocracy...but in a Democracy one can see why THAT would never happen here eh?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Hmmm...Marxist eh? I'd appreciate you enumerating exactly where that's being pushed and how? Perhaps it's the Dictatorship of the Proletariat that has you baffled?
It is my contention that you know nothing of Marxism..that you just use the word as a pejorative.
While one can make the argument that Socialism informs some left Wing agendas...only a few people advocate a Marxist solution...or even a Socialist one.
Most of us prefer enlightened Capitalism as an economic model..for Govt. I favor impartial Meritocracy...but in a Democracy one can see why THAT would never happen here eh?

I'm at work right now and don't have time for this crap now.
Check my posting on this from last night, it's all there.

 

[bodecea]

Calling out you subverted assholes is all I can do.
That, and post PROOF of how your eggs got scrambled.
Yuri Bezmenov warned us about YOU!

Oh...stern posts on social media.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

I'm at work right now and don't have time for this crap now.
Check my posting on this from last night, it's all there.

IOW..ya got nothing...LOL! I kinda knew that---your posts are pretty content-free, if ya know what I mean?
No worries..most people don't know what Marxism is. It really isn't all that relevant--here in the US.

 

[SeaMajor7]

IOW..ya got nothing...LOL! I kinda knew that---your posts are pretty content-free, if ya know what I mean?
No worries..most people don't know what Marxism is. It really isn't all that relevant--here in the US.

k

 

[SeaMajor7]

IOW..ya got nothing...LOL! I kinda knew that---your posts are pretty content-free, if ya know what I mean?
No worries..most people don't know what Marxism is. It really isn't all that relevant--here in the US.

Alright, here you go....


Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his BALLS, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
From a Former KGB Agent: The 4 stages of Subverting a Nation – James Japan
____________________________________
The Reality of Red Subversion

The Reality of Red Subversion
The Recent Confirmation of Soviet Espionage in America
STEPHEN J. SNIEGOSKI • SEPTEMBER 1, 2003

"In an apparent effort to illustrate political simple-mindedness, Carroll Quigley derisively wrote in his noted (at least by the John Birch Society) Tragedy and Hope, that the “same groups who were howling about Soviet espionage in 1948-1955 were also claiming that President Roosevelt expected and wanted Pearl Harbor.”[1] In a previous contribution to The Occidental Quarterly, I dealt with the latter; here I will do some “howling” about the former. According to what until recently has passed as conventional wisdom for the liberal establishment, America in the late 1940s and early 1950s was gripped by a terrible Red scare, a period of anti-Communist hysteria and witch hunts. Malicious “red-baiters” slandered innocent liberals as Communists in order to destroy the reforms of the New Deal and impede peace with the Soviet Union. At most, some of the more “anti-Communist” liberals would concede that there may have been a few Communist subversives, but nothing to justify the terrible anti-Communist overreaction, above all the antics of the demagogic Joe McCarthy. From the 1960s through the 1980s, one of the strongest taboos in American political discourse was the subject of Soviet influence within the United States.

During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration. Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person. But, of course, if one is going to pass for an “educated,” “respectable” person, objective thinking must be eschewed—it’s simply not a Darwinian survival trait in modern America.

From Lenin onward Soviet Communist leaders have preached the necessity of underground activities, with foreign governments the key target for infiltration. The evidence for this from many countries is overwhelming. Communists in government engaged in espionage and acted to influence policy in a pro-Soviet direction. Many of the individuals engaged in these activities were Communist Party members; others were fellow travelers, who despite their lack of party discipline, sought to advance the interests of Soviet Communism."
_____________________________________

There you go, EvilEyeFleegle
It's NOT "Fake News", it's OLD news!
These fuckers play the LONG GAME, and they played YOU well!

See no EVIL, Hear no EVIL, speak no EVIL monkey business is NOT going to work to deny the fucking REALITY of the HISTORY of this SICKNESS in Humanity!

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Alright, here you go....


Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his BALLS, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
From a Former KGB Agent: The 4 stages of Subverting a Nation – James Japan
____________________________________
The Reality of Red Subversion

The Reality of Red Subversion
The Recent Confirmation of Soviet Espionage in America
STEPHEN J. SNIEGOSKI • SEPTEMBER 1, 2003

"In an apparent effort to illustrate political simple-mindedness, Carroll Quigley derisively wrote in his noted (at least by the John Birch Society) Tragedy and Hope, that the “same groups who were howling about Soviet espionage in 1948-1955 were also claiming that President Roosevelt expected and wanted Pearl Harbor.”[1] In a previous contribution to The Occidental Quarterly, I dealt with the latter; here I will do some “howling” about the former. According to what until recently has passed as conventional wisdom for the liberal establishment, America in the late 1940s and early 1950s was gripped by a terrible Red scare, a period of anti-Communist hysteria and witch hunts. Malicious “red-baiters” slandered innocent liberals as Communists in order to destroy the reforms of the New Deal and impede peace with the Soviet Union. At most, some of the more “anti-Communist” liberals would concede that there may have been a few Communist subversives, but nothing to justify the terrible anti-Communist overreaction, above all the antics of the demagogic Joe McCarthy. From the 1960s through the 1980s, one of the strongest taboos in American political discourse was the subject of Soviet influence within the United States.

During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration. Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person. But, of course, if one is going to pass for an “educated,” “respectable” person, objective thinking must be eschewed—it’s simply not a Darwinian survival trait in modern America.

From Lenin onward Soviet Communist leaders have preached the necessity of underground activities, with foreign governments the key target for infiltration. The evidence for this from many countries is overwhelming. Communists in government engaged in espionage and acted to influence policy in a pro-Soviet direction. Many of the individuals engaged in these activities were Communist Party members; others were fellow travelers, who despite their lack of party discipline, sought to advance the interests of Soviet Communism."
_____________________________________

There you go, EvilEyeFleegle
It's NOT "Fake News", it's OLD news!
These fuckers play the LONG GAME, and they played YOU well!

See no EVIL, Hear no EVIL, speak no EVIL monkey business is NOT going to work to deny the fucking REALITY of the HISTORY of this SICKNESS in Humanity!

LOL. Dude, what part of any of that is actually Marxism?? Are you sure you're not making the rookie mistake of thinking that all forms of Socialism and Communism are derived from Marx? The Soviet Union had its own special flavor--it changed a few times..usually accompanied by a few millions purged.
Marx did not see his theory as a system of Govt.--quite the reverse, as a matter of fact. you may be surprised to learn that Capitalism is not a system of Govt. either?
BTW..everyone knows that the Soviets were active in the US. McCarthy went after the wrong ones..in his quest to conflate Liberalism with Communism. Never-mind that many of the Hollywood 'Socialists' were also patriotic Americans and hated Russia. Don't fit the narrative eh?
Many of those involved with the labor struggles of the 1st half of the 20th century were card-carrying Communists..or at the least committed Socialists. When the worse abuses were corrected, the vast majority of them moved on.
Never-mind, this is 2023..the Soviet Union is dead...and the Cold War would like its rhetoric back~

Posting some vid..does not impress me as to your depth of knowledge in this subject--again, perhaps you'd like to try and show specifically where Marxist doctrine and polemic dovetail with mainstream Democratic party talking points or platform planks?

 

[SeaMajor7]

LOL. Dude, what part of any of that is actually Marxism?? Are you sure you're not making the rookie mistake of thinking that all forms of Socialism and Communism are derived from Marx? The Soviet Union had its own special flavor--it changed a few times..usually accompanied by a few millions purged.
Marx did not see his theory as a system of Govt.--quite the reverse, as a matter of fact. you may be surprised to learn that Capitalism is not a system of Govt. either?
BTW..everyone knows that the Soviets were active in the US. McCarthy went after the wrong ones..in his quest to conflate Liberalism with Communism. Never-mind that many of the Hollywood 'Socialists' were also patriotic Americans and hated Russia. Don't fit the narrative eh?
Many of those involved with the labor struggles of the 1st half of the 20th century were card-carrying Communists..or at the least committed Socialists. When the worse abuses were corrected, the vast majority of them moved on.
Never-mind, this is 2023..the Soviet Union is dead...and the Cold War would like its rhetoric back~

Posting some vid..does not impress me as to your depth of knowledge in this subject--again, perhaps you'd like to try and show specifically where Marxist doctrine and polemic dovetail with mainstream Democratic party talking points or platform planks?

"A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his BALLS, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization."

That's YOU!!!!

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

"A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his BALLS, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization."

That's YOU!!!!

Nope.
Military boots came is all sorts of ideological colors. Some of them are Red, White and Blue. Perhaps you should watch YOUR balls!
A concentration camp is not proof of Marxist ideology. Note: first Concentration camps invented by the British during the Boar War.
Unless you have a time machine...you're not taking anyone to the Soviet Union.

My point stands..you don't know shyte about Marxism.