Judge says Trump libel suit against ABC can go forward. They falsely called him a rapist.

[StatesRightsForever]

This case is being heard in FLORIDA not NY or DC so trump stands a good chance of winning. Of course the e jean carroll case was crazy weak and trump should have never been charged with anything. But in NY, laws and facts don't matter.

july 24 2024 A federal judge on Wednesday refused to dismiss former President Donald Trump’s lawsuit against ABC News and George Stephanopoulos over the anchor’s assertion that a jury concluded Trump had “raped” E. Jean Carroll.

Trump filed the lawsuit in Florida federal court earlier this year, arguing that Stephanopoulos and the network defamed him when Stephanopoulos said during a contentious on-air interview with Rep. Nancy Mace that a jury found Trump had “raped” Carroll, a writer whose own cases against Trump led to him being found liable for sexual abuse.

“Stephanopoulos’s exchange with Mace lasted about ten minutes, during which Stephanopoulos stated ten times that a jury — or juries — had found Plaintiff liable for rape,” Altonaga ‘wrote in her ruling Wednesday. “In fact, of course, the Carroll II jury did not find (Trump) liable for rape under New York Penal Law; it was Judge Kaplan who determined that the jury’s verdict
amounted to liability for rape.”

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[Procrustes Stretched]

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This case is being heard in FLORIDA not NY or DC so trump stands a good chance of winning. Of course the e jean carroll case was crazy weak and trump should have never been charged with anything. But in NY, laws and facts don't matter.

MSN

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration" In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York...

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[candycorn]

He’s also suing Michael Cohen... and about 4,000 other people. yawn.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Some important facts in the carroll case

1. She couldn't even tell us the year the incident happened.

2. She said it was in a busy dept store but she never screamed for help.

3. Carroll never filed a police report till 25 years later

4. The statute of limitations for her suit against trump had expired.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

Oh Cool! He finally gets a little money for his trouble!

 

[StatesRightsForever]

He’s also suing Michael Cohen... and about 4,000 other people. yawn.

I hope so. You call someone a rapist, you better be right.

 

[BluesLegend]

Sue Dems into bankruptcy I say, those assholes deserve it.

 

[rightwinger]

Good

They can bring out all the women who say Trump raped them

 

[ThisIsMe]

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Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration" In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York...

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Doesn’t matter what kaplans personal opinions are. What did the jury find?

Hell, I think Trump should file a suit against Kaplan too for making those remarks after the jury had made their decision

Trump should file a 1.5 billion dollar lawsuit against every news outlet that defamed him.

CNN, msnbc, vox, mother jones, slate, salon, Sirius Xm for allowing a couple of hosts to defame him regularly.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Doesn’t matter what kaplans personal opinions are. What did the jury find?

Hell, I think Trump should file a suit against Kaplan too for making those remarks after the jury had made their decision

Trump should file a 1.5 billion dollar lawsuit against every news outlet that defamed him.

CNN, msnbc, vox, mother jones, slate, salon, Sirius Xm for allowing a couple of hosts to defame him regularly.

It was more than a personal opinion. It was statements of fact. Try and dispute the facts.

Go ahead. Refute what Judge Kaplan laid out. Try

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration" In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York...

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Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"​

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

Judge refuses to dismiss Trump’s defamation suit against ABC News and George Stephanopoulos over rape claim​

While a Manhattan federal jury last year found that Trump sexually abused Carroll, and held him liable for battery, the jury did not find that she proved her claim that he raped her. However, months later, while dismissing Trump’s countersuit against Carroll, US Judge Lewis Kaplan concluded that the claim Trump raped Carroll was “substantially true,” writing that “he ‘raped’ her in the broader sense of that word, as people generally understand it, though not as it is narrowly defined by New York state law.


In the Trump-ABC lawsuit, US District Judge Cecilia Altonaga, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, wrote Wednesday that these definitions were different enough to let the case move forced.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/24/media/trump-lawsuit-abc-george-stephanopoulos-rape-claim/index.html

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

ABC is a cog in the Democrat Party propaganda machine

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Good

They can bring out all the women who say Trump raped them

thank you

Remember the Clinton/Trump debates? Donald lowered the bar long ago.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Good

They can bring out all the women who say Trump raped them

None of them have a shred of evidence. They want money.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Judge says Trump libel suit against ABC can go forward. They falsely called him a rapist​

So did Biden.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/12/biden-news-conference-debate-michigan-rally/

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Oh, please. This will never get to trial.

 

[surada]

This case is being heard in FLORIDA not NY or DC so trump stands a good chance of winning. Of course the e jean carroll case was crazy weak and trump should have never been charged with anything. But in NY, laws and facts don't matter.

MSN

Trump will lose this one too. Are you still willing to pay millions for his lawyers?

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Trump will lose this one too. Are you still willing to pay millions for his lawyers?

He'd lose in NY but this is florida. The law still matters there.