Kavanaugh accuser wants FBI investigation before hearing

[Polishprince]

He got onto the bench because your attempt to create doubt and suspicion rang true to no one, just like now. And he continues there with absolutely no "stench" whatsoever, except the stench of your leftist despair at your helplessness.

Thomas is probably the WORST Justice ever to have sat on the SC. He never cast a vote without asking Scalia first

Au contraire.

Justice Clarence Thomas has compiled a fantastic record, casting correct votes more that 90% of the time. Superb justice.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why can't it be investigated?

what year was it again?
who's house was it?
how did she get to the party? who drove?

she has given zero specifics other than 2 names, both of which have said it never happened.

it's also a local matter, not FBI. asking for FBI means you're stalling, not wanting justice. if you wanted justice, follow proper channels.

It's not about justice, fool.
It's about finding the facts.

its about delay n block. thats it.

Well, there's a credible allegation of sexual assault as well. That needs to be addressed.

Credible? In what way?

How is it not?
Where has it been disproven?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Too funny. The spammers are working hard

Why can't it be investigated?

what year was it again?
who's house was it?
how did she get to the party? who drove?

she has given zero specifics other than 2 names, both of which have said it never happened.

it's also a local matter, not FBI. asking for FBI means you're stalling, not wanting justice. if you wanted justice, follow proper channels.

It's not about justice, fool.
It's about finding the facts.

there is no way to find anything. she doesn't remember. duh!!!!

Well certainly nothing will be found if there is no investigation.

What would you like them to investigate?

The allegations, dope.

 

[TemplarKormac]

LOL

The complete lack of knowledge of how the legal system works is utterly astounding. Even Ford's "lawyers" know full well that such an accusation can only be tried in the state in which it occurred. Rape is not a federal crime, it never will be until appropriate legislation is passed to codify it into federal statutes. It is a state crime.

Are any of you liberal lemmings paying attention?

No one is asking for a criminal investigation, dope.

Okay, so what are they asking for then? Why do they want the FBI to be involved?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What's the rush?

No rush. Let's go ahead and seat him on the SC, then they can investigate as long as they want to. What could be wrong with that?

Why would you seat a man who is accused of sexual assault without looking into it?
Does that seem responsible to you?

At this point, after he's been so thoroughly checked out by the FBI and there is no pattern of sexual abuse in his life (such as what we see in Bubba Clinton's life), there would have to be very clear and compelling evidence to overcome the obvious last minute partisan nature of the allegation. At the VERY least, one would expect the accuser to leap at the chance to tell her story in public. Instead, she's trying to dictate to whom she'll talk and who she'd allow to investigate her claims. It just doesn't work that way. One would also expect that the issue would have been raised during the hearing, when it was appropriate to ask questions. Waiting until now has severely, if not fatally, damaged the allegation.

So, minus more compelling evidence, Kavenaugh should be confirmed as originally planned. He has a great record and is eminently qualified, garnering praise from both sides of the aisle.

There doesn't need to ne a pattern of behavior for this incident to have occured as described.

Any compelling evidence might never come to light without an investigation.

You're a broken record. There's nothing to investigate.

Sure, dope.

You know all there is to know.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Some of you are so stupid to believe that the FBI is, somehow, this all encompassing law enforcement organization that can investigate and prosecute any crime. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works. They are a federal agency and as such can only prosecute federal crimes. It is unconstitutional for the FBI to get involved in criminal matters which the state can reasonably prosecute themselves.

Sigh, the cognitive dissonance is starting to make me angry. Hulk smash angry.

Bullshit. The FBI has ALREADY done investigative work (vetting) on The Kav...and they could and should investigate this matter as well.

Don't make me laugh.

They already said they won't, citing how inappropriate it would be to waste manpower and resources on something that (never) happened three decades ago.

 

[TemplarKormac]

No rush. Let's go ahead and seat him on the SC, then they can investigate as long as they want to. What could be wrong with that?

Why would you seat a man who is accused of sexual assault without looking into it?
Does that seem responsible to you?

At this point, after he's been so thoroughly checked out by the FBI and there is no pattern of sexual abuse in his life (such as what we see in Bubba Clinton's life), there would have to be very clear and compelling evidence to overcome the obvious last minute partisan nature of the allegation. At the VERY least, one would expect the accuser to leap at the chance to tell her story in public. Instead, she's trying to dictate to whom she'll talk and who she'd allow to investigate her claims. It just doesn't work that way. One would also expect that the issue would have been raised during the hearing, when it was appropriate to ask questions. Waiting until now has severely, if not fatally, damaged the allegation.

So, minus more compelling evidence, Kavenaugh should be confirmed as originally planned. He has a great record and is eminently qualified, garnering praise from both sides of the aisle.

There doesn't need to ne a pattern of behavior for this incident to have occured as described.

Any compelling evidence might never come to light without an investigation.

You're a broken record. There's nothing to investigate.

Sure, dope.

You know all there is to know.

Sounds like you do too. Smartass. It's like you're in her...head, or something.

 

[BS Filter]

No rush. Let's go ahead and seat him on the SC, then they can investigate as long as they want to. What could be wrong with that?

Why would you seat a man who is accused of sexual assault without looking into it?
Does that seem responsible to you?

At this point, after he's been so thoroughly checked out by the FBI and there is no pattern of sexual abuse in his life (such as what we see in Bubba Clinton's life), there would have to be very clear and compelling evidence to overcome the obvious last minute partisan nature of the allegation. At the VERY least, one would expect the accuser to leap at the chance to tell her story in public. Instead, she's trying to dictate to whom she'll talk and who she'd allow to investigate her claims. It just doesn't work that way. One would also expect that the issue would have been raised during the hearing, when it was appropriate to ask questions. Waiting until now has severely, if not fatally, damaged the allegation.

So, minus more compelling evidence, Kavenaugh should be confirmed as originally planned. He has a great record and is eminently qualified, garnering praise from both sides of the aisle.

There doesn't need to ne a pattern of behavior for this incident to have occured as described.

Any compelling evidence might never come to light without an investigation.

You're a broken record. There's nothing to investigate.

Sure, dope.

You know all there is to know.

I know the truth and that you're a lying punk. There is nothing to investigate. She has no date or place where this was supposed to have happened. Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed, so go jackoff.

 

[TemplarKormac]

what year was it again?
who's house was it?
how did she get to the party? who drove?

she has given zero specifics other than 2 names, both of which have said it never happened.

it's also a local matter, not FBI. asking for FBI means you're stalling, not wanting justice. if you wanted justice, follow proper channels.

It's not about justice, fool.
It's about finding the facts.

its about delay n block. thats it.

Well, there's a credible allegation of sexual assault as well. That needs to be addressed.

Credible? In what way?

How is it not?
Where has it been disproven?

Better question:

Where has it been proven?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Too funny. The spammers are working hard

Why can't it be investigated?

what year was it again?
who's house was it?
how did she get to the party? who drove?

she has given zero specifics other than 2 names, both of which have said it never happened.

it's also a local matter, not FBI. asking for FBI means you're stalling, not wanting justice. if you wanted justice, follow proper channels.

It's not about justice, fool.
It's about finding the facts.

there is no way to find anything. she doesn't remember. duh!!!!

Well certainly nothing will be found if there is no investigation.

dude, they did investigate. Six times. there wasn't anything there. what else can they investigate? they did it six times. at least tell me what needs to be investigated.

Not this allegation, dope.

 

[Polishprince]

I have no problem with the FBI investigating this allegation as thoroughly as they like.

Just don't hold up the vote.

Mr. Kavanaugh has a right to know if the Senate is going to tar him as a Child Molester- in the attempted rape of a 15 year old

 

[Cecilie1200]

Ford’s lawyers released a letter to committee chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), CNN reported, calling for an investigation to “ensure the crucial facts and witnesses in this matter are assessed in a non-partisan manner and that the committee is fully informed before conducting any hearing or making any decision.”

Speaking with CNN’s Anderson Cooper on Tuesday, attorney Lisa Banks reiterated that her client was “prepared to cooperate with the committee and with any law enforcement investigation.”

Christine Blasey Ford Calls On FBI To Investigate Kavanaugh Accusation Before Hearing

Good for her! Even Kavanaugh should want a thorough investigation - otherwise this cloud of doubt and suspicion will hang over him.

Fuck that bitch. She can’t even provide enough information to start an investigation. Like where? When? Who was there?

She has clearly stated all such information.

She has not you fucking idiot. She can’t remember any details at all. Which is exactly why she can’t swear in and testify.

What doesn't she remember? Please be specific and cite "credible" sources.

California professor, writer of confidential Brett Kavanaugh letter, speaks out about her allegation of sexual assault

Washington Post: Kavanaugh accuser comes forward - CNNPolitics

Well, how about your own links? Are they "credible" enough for you?

From your first article:

Speaking publicly for the first time, Ford said that one summer in the early 1980s,

That sound specific to you? Doesn't to me.

The notes say four boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist’s part. Ford said there were four boys at the party but only two in the room.

Oh, look. A discrepancy. Now, maybe she has a crappy, slipshod therapist, I couldn't tell you. I will tell you that doctors tend to be pretty precise about relevant details provided by the patient, and I'm not willing to just shrug and go, "Oh,okay, never mind" when she dismisses it as therapist error.

In an interview, her husband, Russell Ford, said that in the 2012 sessions, she recounted being trapped in a room with two drunken boys, one of whom pinned her to a bed, molested her and prevented her from screaming. He said he recalled that his wife used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.

And yet none of THAT appears in the therapist's notes either. Either her husband is lying for her, or her therapist is shockingly careless and sloppy.

After so many years, Ford said, she does not remember some key details of the incident. She said she believes it occurred in the summer of 1982, when she was 15, around the end of her sophomore year at the all-girls Holton-Arms School in Bethesda.

Ford said she does not remember how the gathering came together the night of the incident. She said she often spent time in the summer at the Columbia Country Club pool in Chevy Chase, where in those pre-cellphone days, teenagers learned about gatherings via word of mouth. She also doesn’t recall who owned the house or how she got there.

She said that after five or 10 minutes, she unlocked the door and made her way through the living room and outside. She isn’t sure how she got home.

So right there are a whole bunch of things she doesn't remember, by her own admission to YOUR own source.

Years later, after going through psychotherapy, Ford said, she came to understand the incident as a trauma with lasting impact on her life.

Wait a minute, I thought she said that she didn't tell anyone until COUPLE'S therapy in 2012. So when and how was this psychotherapy that made her understand what a "lasting trauma" it was to be clumsily groped by a teenaged boy?

 

[Mike473]

Some of you are so stupid to believe that the FBI is, somehow, this all encompassing law enforcement organization that can investigate and prosecute any crime. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works. They are a federal agency and as such can only prosecute federal crimes. It is unconstitutional for the FBI to get involved in criminal matters which the state can reasonably prosecute themselves.

Sigh, the cognitive dissonance is starting to make me angry. Hulk smash angry.

Bullshit. The FBI has ALREADY done investigative work (vetting) on The Kav...and they could and should investigate this matter as well.

Don't make me laugh.

They already said they won't, citing how inappropriate it would be to waste manpower and resources on something that happened three decades ago.

I don't know about that. I think the FBI should accept Juanita Broaddrick's request to investigate her rape allegations against Bill Clinton. Also, while they are at it, they can get to the bottom of Al Gore's massage parlor abuses from years ago.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Some of you are so stupid to believe that the FBI is, somehow, this all encompassing law enforcement organization that can investigate and prosecute any crime. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works. They are a federal agency and as such can only prosecute federal crimes. It is unconstitutional for the FBI to get involved in criminal matters which the state can reasonably prosecute themselves.

Sigh, the cognitive dissonance is starting to make me angry. Hulk smash angry.

Bullshit. The FBI has ALREADY done investigative work (vetting) on The Kav...and they could and should investigate this matter as well.

Don't make me laugh.

They already said they won't, citing how inappropriate it would be to waste manpower and resources on something that happened three decades ago.

I don't know about that. I think the FBI should accept Juanita Broaddrick's request to investigate her rape allegations against Bill Clinton. Also, while they are at it, they can get to the bottom of Al Gore's massage parlor abuses from years ago.

...

Are you being sarcastic?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Ford’s lawyers released a letter to committee chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), CNN reported, calling for an investigation to “ensure the crucial facts and witnesses in this matter are assessed in a non-partisan manner and that the committee is fully informed before conducting any hearing or making any decision.”

Speaking with CNN’s Anderson Cooper on Tuesday, attorney Lisa Banks reiterated that her client was “prepared to cooperate with the committee and with any law enforcement investigation.”

Christine Blasey Ford Calls On FBI To Investigate Kavanaugh Accusation Before Hearing

Good for her! Even Kavanaugh should want a thorough investigation - otherwise this cloud of doubt and suspicion will hang over him.

The FBI does not investigate allegations that are 40 years old that are not federal crimes nor should they

The statute of limitations on this alleged crime expired long ago hence it is no longer a matter for any branch of law enforcement

It wouldn't be a criminal investigation, fool.

why else would they be expected to investigate then?

Dude why do you wish to look so foolish for someone you don't know or affects your life? you're strange.

why else would they be expected to investigate then?

To find any and all facts related to the alleged incident, fool.

what is the incident? And why does the fbi need to investigate? why does she need them to investigate ahead of her testimony? she's the person involved right? she should be telling them.

Because you dopes as well as the Republican senators have already dismissed her allegation. Testimony at this time would be pointless.

Testimony at a later time backed up by an FBI report would not be so easily dismissed.

I find it very telling that the only person calling for an investigation is the alleged victim herself.

 

[Mike473]

Some of you are so stupid to believe that the FBI is, somehow, this all encompassing law enforcement organization that can investigate and prosecute any crime. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works. They are a federal agency and as such can only prosecute federal crimes. It is unconstitutional for the FBI to get involved in criminal matters which the state can reasonably prosecute themselves.

Sigh, the cognitive dissonance is starting to make me angry. Hulk smash angry.

Bullshit. The FBI has ALREADY done investigative work (vetting) on The Kav...and they could and should investigate this matter as well.

Don't make me laugh.

They already said they won't, citing how inappropriate it would be to waste manpower and resources on something that happened three decades ago.

I don't know about that. I think the FBI should accept Juanita Broaddrick's request to investigate her rape allegations against Bill Clinton. Also, while they are at it, they can get to the bottom of Al Gore's massage parlor abuses from years ago.

...

Are you being sarcastic?

If they sanction an FBI investigation into Kavanaugh over these allegations, I believe Juanita Broaddrick and many others should get their allegations looked into as well.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Ford’s lawyers released a letter to committee chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), CNN reported, calling for an investigation to “ensure the crucial facts and witnesses in this matter are assessed in a non-partisan manner and that the committee is fully informed before conducting any hearing or making any decision.”

Speaking with CNN’s Anderson Cooper on Tuesday, attorney Lisa Banks reiterated that her client was “prepared to cooperate with the committee and with any law enforcement investigation.”

Christine Blasey Ford Calls On FBI To Investigate Kavanaugh Accusation Before Hearing

Good for her! Even Kavanaugh should want a thorough investigation - otherwise this cloud of doubt and suspicion will hang over him.

The FBI does not investigate allegations that are 40 years old that are not federal crimes nor should they

The statute of limitations on this alleged crime expired long ago hence it is no longer a matter for any branch of law enforcement

It wouldn't be a criminal investigation, fool.

why else would they be expected to investigate then?

Dude why do you wish to look so foolish for someone you don't know or affects your life? you're strange.

why else would they be expected to investigate then?

To find any and all facts related to the alleged incident, fool.

/——/ What facts from 37 years ago at a teenage party? Are you stoned?

Derp.....

The facts learned during an investigation, dope.

Facts that either corroborate the allegations or facts that don't.

 

[bripat9643]

Kreepy Kavanaugh is in a no-win situation - unless his name is completely cleared of sexual assault.

Actually, Ford is in the unenviable position where she'll have to put up or shut up. If she doesn't, Kavenaugh is in the clear.

Admit reality. There is no way you will accept his innocence unless she fully recants the whole thing.

More importantly, if the Pubs don't accede to a brief pause to investigate further, they generate horrible optics for the mid-terms.

More importantly, if the Pubs don't accede to a brief pause to investigate further, they generate horrible optics for the mid-terms.

Yes. At a time when suburban, college educated women are fleeing the GOP in droves.

Huh, wrong. A majority of suburban women voted for Trump, dumbass.

Hence the word, "fleeing", dope. Currently happening.

Only in your imagination, shit for brains. Most women are intelligent enough to know a great big con when they see one.

 

[bripat9643]

Liars don't ask for the FBI to investigate their stories...

Just sayin'...

Sure they do. This one just did.

Why would she do that, knowing full well that this is not within the FBI's jurisdiction?

It is within their jurisdiction, fool.
The FBI conducted his background check.
Trump simply needs to ask them to look into this new information as a part of that.

What new "information"? A mere allegation without any corroboration isn't information.

Why doesn't a well heeled liberal finance an investigation into this allegation, instead of putting it on the taxpayer if they think its so important?

What new "information"? A mere allegation without any corroboration isn't information.

LOL.
That's the purpose of the investigation, fool.
To either corroborate the claim or not.

Not. Not even the so-called victim remembers any details. What are they going to investigate?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Some of you are so stupid to believe that the FBI is, somehow, this all encompassing law enforcement organization that can investigate and prosecute any crime. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works. They are a federal agency and as such can only prosecute federal crimes. It is unconstitutional for the FBI to get involved in criminal matters which the state can reasonably prosecute themselves.

Sigh, the cognitive dissonance is starting to make me angry. Hulk smash angry.

Bullshit. The FBI has ALREADY done investigative work (vetting) on The Kav...and they could and should investigate this matter as well.

Don't make me laugh.

They already said they won't, citing how inappropriate it would be to waste manpower and resources on something that happened three decades ago.

I don't know about that. I think the FBI should accept Juanita Broaddrick's request to investigate her rape allegations against Bill Clinton. Also, while they are at it, they can get to the bottom of Al Gore's massage parlor abuses from years ago.

...

Are you being sarcastic?

If they sanction an FBI investigation into Kavanaugh over these allegations, I believe Juanita Broaddrick and many others should get their allegations looked into as well.

Ah, I wouldn't count on ANY of that happening.

This is a political shitshow and everyone knows it, even the liberals on this thread who are so (falsely) outraged about this allegation. They just won't admit it.