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Kavanaugh/Ford Opinon threads from Saturday, Sept 23, 2018

Will Ford Actually Make The Hearing On Thursday?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 30.8%
  • No

    Votes: 36 69.2%

  • Total voters
    52
  • Poll closed .
Welp, that makes me even less likely to believe a single word she says, even one. Because that very rarely out of nowhere. It's very very rarely great guy, great guy, great guy, TOTAL MONSTER, great guy, great guy.

And if he really pulled her into her room against her will--yep I think she would have told people at the time. You don't tell people about drunken fumbling. You do tell about attempted forcible rape.

That does it for me--she's actually lying.

She passed a polygraph test administered by a former FBI agent.

What were the questions they asked? Did they ask, "Did Brett Kavanaugh pull you into a room against your will, put his hand over your mouth..." etc? Or did they ask her more general and "soft" questions?

Do you even know?

We have two accounts. One is backed by a polygraph. One is not.

And you're insisting that the person who passed the polygraph shouldn't be believed.

Um, why?


No....we have an accusation that cannot be backed up with physical evidence or witnesses...the named witness to the alleged attack says he didn't see it happen..........the victim tells us she can't remember where it happened or when it happened and that the only reason she even remembered it was "memory regression" therapy 30 years later........that is what you do not have, actual evidence....

no.................. the named witness - mark judge says he doesn't remember.... that is very different than saying he didn't see it happen. the (R)s don't want him called as a witness because they don't want him questioned about anything to do with the black out drinking he & kavanaugh enjoyed... or the various writings & photos depicting women as chattel, how feminism is corrupting, & how 'women should be struck like gongs'.


So.....he doesn't remember.......doesn't back up her story now does it? She has nothing.....she is likely lying since she is a bernie sanders supporter and rabid anti Trumper..........She has nothing, and the games her democrat lawyers are playing is BS.....the Republicans need to vote.....end of story.
 
No corroboration = an unsubstantiated determination in any investigation. Duh.....any further discussion is noise. This will neither be proven or disproven. The vote happens next week. If you are a progressive, get some KY this weekend.....here comes the bumpy.:cul2::cul2:

there was corroboration. 2012 medical notes & her husband... who are willing to be questioned under oath & testify...
 
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Apparently Hillary's lawyer friend, Debra Katz, wants to make sure that Judge Kavanaugh cannot face his accuser or defend himself properly.
These demands are designed specifically to undermine the process. They cannot be agreed to and everyone involved knows this.

Actually, these were the same parameters used 20 years ago when Anita Hill accused Clarence Uncle Thomas.

Look, guy, did you all forget 1991? The sight of a bunch of white guys questioning a woman of color about her sex life and if she brought it on herself. It just looks... bad.


The victime who went from job to job, following Clarence Thomas around ....... she was a fake too....you asshats are vile.
 
She passed a polygraph test administered by a former FBI agent.

What were the questions they asked? Did they ask, "Did Brett Kavanaugh pull you into a room against your will, put his hand over your mouth..." etc? Or did they ask her more general and "soft" questions?

Do you even know?

We have two accounts. One is backed by a polygraph. One is not.

And you're insisting that the person who passed the polygraph shouldn't be believed.

Um, why?


No....we have an accusation that cannot be backed up with physical evidence or witnesses...the named witness to the alleged attack says he didn't see it happen..........the victim tells us she can't remember where it happened or when it happened and that the only reason she even remembered it was "memory regression" therapy 30 years later........that is what you do not have, actual evidence....

no.................. the named witness - mark judge says he doesn't remember.... that is very different than saying he didn't see it happen. the (R)s don't want him called as a witness because they don't want him questioned about anything to do with the black out drinking he & kavanaugh enjoyed... or the various writings & photos depicting women as chattel, how feminism is corrupting, & how 'women should be struck like gongs'.


So.....he doesn't remember.......doesn't back up her story now does it? She has nothing.....she is likely lying since she is a bernie sanders supporter and rabid anti Trumper..........She has nothing, and the games her democrat lawyers are playing is BS.....the Republicans need to vote.....end of story.

so he can can testify under oath that he doesn't remember. problem solved. but he won't because lying under oath is a huge mistake.
 
No corroboration = an unsubstantiated determination in any investigation. Duh.....any further discussion is noise. This will neither be proven or disproven. The vote happens next week. If you are a progressive, get some KY this weekend.....here comes the bumpy.:cul2::cul2:

there was corroboration. 2012 medical notes & her husband... who are willing to be questioned t under oath & testify...


Yes....2012, when Mitt Romney said he would put Kavanaugh on a list for the Supreme Court...

She didn't tell anyone about the attack until 2012 when it "came out" during repressed memory therapy.......there was no corroboration, that is a lie and a joke. He didn't here about it until that therapy session, so she didn't even tell him, her husband for over 30 years....

This wouldn't even get to a trial, the judge in any local courtroom would have laughed her out of the place....
 
What were the questions they asked? Did they ask, "Did Brett Kavanaugh pull you into a room against your will, put his hand over your mouth..." etc? Or did they ask her more general and "soft" questions?

Do you even know?

We have two accounts. One is backed by a polygraph. One is not.

And you're insisting that the person who passed the polygraph shouldn't be believed.

Um, why?


No....we have an accusation that cannot be backed up with physical evidence or witnesses...the named witness to the alleged attack says he didn't see it happen..........the victim tells us she can't remember where it happened or when it happened and that the only reason she even remembered it was "memory regression" therapy 30 years later........that is what you do not have, actual evidence....

no.................. the named witness - mark judge says he doesn't remember.... that is very different than saying he didn't see it happen. the (R)s don't want him called as a witness because they don't want him questioned about anything to do with the black out drinking he & kavanaugh enjoyed... or the various writings & photos depicting women as chattel, how feminism is corrupting, & how 'women should be struck like gongs'.


So.....he doesn't remember.......doesn't back up her story now does it? She has nothing.....she is likely lying since she is a bernie sanders supporter and rabid anti Trumper..........She has nothing, and the games her democrat lawyers are playing is BS.....the Republicans need to vote.....end of story.

so can can testify under oath that he doesn't remember. problem solved. but he won't because lying under oath is a huge mistake.


No. He doesn't want to give the democrats an open field to go after him the way mueller is going after every aspect of every life associated with the Trump campaign....... you democrats love your stasi tactics......
 
What were the questions they asked? Did they ask, "Did Brett Kavanaugh pull you into a room against your will, put his hand over your mouth..." etc? Or did they ask her more general and "soft" questions?

Do you even know?

We have two accounts. One is backed by a polygraph. One is not.

And you're insisting that the person who passed the polygraph shouldn't be believed.

Um, why?


No....we have an accusation that cannot be backed up with physical evidence or witnesses...the named witness to the alleged attack says he didn't see it happen..........the victim tells us she can't remember where it happened or when it happened and that the only reason she even remembered it was "memory regression" therapy 30 years later........that is what you do not have, actual evidence....

no.................. the named witness - mark judge says he doesn't remember.... that is very different than saying he didn't see it happen. the (R)s don't want him called as a witness because they don't want him questioned about anything to do with the black out drinking he & kavanaugh enjoyed... or the various writings & photos depicting women as chattel, how feminism is corrupting, & how 'women should be struck like gongs'.


So.....he doesn't remember.......doesn't back up her story now does it? She has nothing.....she is likely lying since she is a bernie sanders supporter and rabid anti Trumper..........She has nothing, and the games her democrat lawyers are playing is BS.....the Republicans need to vote.....end of story.

so can can testify under oath that he doesn't remember. problem solved. but he won't because lying under oath is a huge mistake.


Even easier, he can simply submit a one page letter stating he doesn't remember it......problem solved.
 
Thank you democrats...... the anger you are building among republicans against your secret police tactics on this...... I can't wait to vote in November........

Thank you for.....

--waking up the pro 2nd Amendment vote with your CNN Town Hall.

--waking up the rest of the conservative movement with your stasi tactics against Kavanaugh

--waking up the conservatives by telling us you will not only impeach Trump, but will now impeach kavanaugh...

You no longer care about elections....thank you for explaining that to those Americans who thought you were normal people....they now know the truth.
 
This woman's entire story is suspect and would never hold up in a court of law.

Nope not ever. You can't go into count with zero evidence and a story full of holes. Even a first year law student will tell you that

Happens all the time. Her story is not full of holes. She is not looking at criminal charges. Se is telling you what a POS Kavanaufh really is. Obviously, anyone who voted for the amoral POS Trump doesn't care how many girls Kavanaugh assaulted.
So, you believe he is a piece of shit based on her very very foggy recollections? How every dumb of you. Chances are you didn’t like him In the first place and you are willing to believe anything negative about him because it supports your narrative.

he's a POS for a lot of reasons.... belonging to a frat that sees women as nothing but 'pieces'? hanging with a dude that thinks 'women should be struck like gongs'? being a clerk for judge kosinski & claiming he didn't know about any of the nasty sexual harassment claims against him where he was found guilty of & now has that judge's son clerk for him....
 
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They rolled around as drunken kids who cant even drive yet and remained clothed
No rape
No assault
Nothing

she remained clothed because she luckily had a one piece bathing suit on along with him being sloppy drunk when his buddy jumped on them & she managed to get away.
 
So.....he doesn't remember.......doesn't back up her story now does it? She has nothing.....she is likely lying since she is a bernie sanders supporter and rabid anti Trumper..........She has nothing, and the games her democrat lawyers are playing is BS.....the Republicans need to vote.....end of story.

I don't see Murkowski or Collins voting with you at this point.

And attacking a rape survivor? That's just not going to play well in November.

Again, did you all forget 1991 and how badly that played?
 
We have two accounts. One is backed by a polygraph. One is not.

And you're insisting that the person who passed the polygraph shouldn't be believed.

Um, why?


No....we have an accusation that cannot be backed up with physical evidence or witnesses...the named witness to the alleged attack says he didn't see it happen..........the victim tells us she can't remember where it happened or when it happened and that the only reason she even remembered it was "memory regression" therapy 30 years later........that is what you do not have, actual evidence....

no.................. the named witness - mark judge says he doesn't remember.... that is very different than saying he didn't see it happen. the (R)s don't want him called as a witness because they don't want him questioned about anything to do with the black out drinking he & kavanaugh enjoyed... or the various writings & photos depicting women as chattel, how feminism is corrupting, & how 'women should be struck like gongs'.


So.....he doesn't remember.......doesn't back up her story now does it? She has nothing.....she is likely lying since she is a bernie sanders supporter and rabid anti Trumper..........She has nothing, and the games her democrat lawyers are playing is BS.....the Republicans need to vote.....end of story.

so can can testify under oath that he doesn't remember. problem solved. but he won't because lying under oath is a huge mistake.


Even easier, he can simply submit a one page letter stating he doesn't remember it......problem solved.

he cannot be questioned about other related matters. so the problem exists.
 
You no longer care about elections....thank you for explaining that to those Americans who thought you were normal people....they now know the truth.

Sure we care about elections... you guys are the ones who collaborate with Russia to interfere in them.

Buddy, here's the problem. If we had straight up votes on things, you'd lose every time.
 
So.....he doesn't remember.......doesn't back up her story now does it? She has nothing.....she is likely lying since she is a bernie sanders supporter and rabid anti Trumper..........She has nothing, and the games her democrat lawyers are playing is BS.....the Republicans need to vote.....end of story.

I don't see Murkowski or Collins voting with you at this point.

And attacking a rape survivor? That's just not going to play well in November.

Again, did you all forget 1991 and how badly that played?

i don't trust either of them until they say otherwise. especially susan collins... the governor of maine might come after her seat in 2020 & him being an uber trump supporter might want to keep that base.
 
This woman's entire story is suspect and would never hold up in a court of law.

Nope not ever. You can't go into count with zero evidence and a story full of holes. Even a first year law student will tell you that

Happens all the time. Her story is not full of holes. She is not looking at criminal charges. Se is telling you what a POS Kavanaufh really is. Obviously, anyone who voted for the amoral POS Trump doesn't care how many girls Kavanaugh assaulted.
So, you believe he is a piece of shit based on her very very foggy recollections? How every dumb of you. Chances are you didn’t like him In the first place and you are willing to believe anything negative about him because it supports your narrative.

he's a POS for a lot of reasons.... belonging to a frat that sees women as nothing but 'pieces'? hanging with a dude that thinks 'women should be struck like gongs'? being a clerk for judge kosinski & claiming he didn't know about any of the nasty sexual harassment claims against him where he was found guilty of & now has that judges son as a clerk for him....


Shit stain.....the democrat party is the home of rapists and women killers.....and you asshats make them into heroes and protect them at all costs.....

ted kennedy, allowed a woman to die.....you call him the lion of the senate.

bill clinton has 3 credible allegations of actual rape with at least a dozen allegations of sexual assault...all reported at the time to friends and family and at least one to the Air Force chain of command...and you trot him out as an honored hero....

cory booker, admits to sexually assaulting a 15 year old girl.

bob menendez accused of child rape....

keith ellison has allegations of violently beating his girl friend on multiple occasions

sherrod brown hit his wife...

So spare us the holier than though b******t you asshat........
 
You no longer care about elections....thank you for explaining that to those Americans who thought you were normal people....they now know the truth.

Sure we care about elections... you guys are the ones who collaborate with Russia to interfere in them.

Buddy, here's the problem. If we had straight up votes on things, you'd lose every time.


No.....putin had hilary bought and paid for with his 145 million dollars....he had her in his pocket...as did the Chinese...
 
They rolled around as drunken kids who cant even drive yet and remained clothed
No rape
No assault
Nothing

Says you, citing your imagination.

Ford says that she was pulled into the bedroom against her will, that they turned up music so no one would be able to hear her, that Kavanaugh held her down, that Kavanaugh covered her mouth when she tried to scream to such an extent that Ford thought that Kavanaugh might kill her inadvertantly.

That Kavanaugh tried to remove her swimsuit while she was pinned and kept from screaming.

That's forcible attempted rape.
Rape is ictually going into the vagina. Grabbing a breast is not rape Skyliar

Per Ford's account, Kavanaugh tried to pull off her swim suit while holding his hand over her mouth when she tried to scream.

That's attempted forcible rape.
Wrong silly. Others chime in
You are stabbing yourself to death in front of us. Might wanna stop

covering her mouth to muffle her screams

turning up the radio to muffle her screams

lying on top of her to prevent her from leaving

attempting to take off her bathing suit against her consent

all add up to attempted sexual assault.

& the term 'rape' is legally defined as more than what you described.

educate yourself.
 
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They rolled around as drunken kids who cant even drive yet and remained clothed
No rape
No assault
Nothing

Says you, citing your imagination.

Ford says that she was pulled into the bedroom against her will, that they turned up music so no one would be able to hear her, that Kavanaugh held her down, that Kavanaugh covered her mouth when she tried to scream to such an extent that Ford thought that Kavanaugh might kill her inadvertantly.

That Kavanaugh tried to remove her swimsuit while she was pinned and kept from screaming.

That's forcible attempted rape.
Rape is ictually going into the vagina. Grabbing a breast is not rape Skyliar

Per Ford's account, Kavanaugh tried to pull off her swim suit while holding his hand over her mouth when she tried to scream.

That's attempted forcible rape.
Wrong silly. Others chime in
You are stabbing yourself to death in front of us. Might wanna stop

covering her moth to muffle her screams

turning up the radio to muffle her screams

lying on top of her to prevent her from leaving

attempting to take off her bathing suit against her consent

all add up to attempted sexual assault.

& the term 'rape' is legally defined as more than what you described.

educate yourself.


The stupid is strong with you.........you protect actual sexual predators and smear an innocent man.....

the democrat party is the home of rapists and women killers.....and you asshats make them into heroes and protect them at all costs.....

ted kennedy, allowed a woman to die.....you call him the lion of the senate.

bill clinton has 3 credible allegations of actual rape with at least a dozen allegations of sexual assault...all reported at the time to friends and family and at least one to the Air Force chain of command...and you trot him out as an honored hero....

cory booker, admits to sexually assaulting a 15 year old girl.

bob menendez accused of child rape....

keith ellison has allegations of violently beating his girl friend on multiple occasions

sherrod brown hit his wife...
 
This woman's entire story is suspect and would never hold up in a court of law.

Nope not ever. You can't go into count with zero evidence and a story full of holes. Even a first year law student will tell you that

Happens all the time. Her story is not full of holes. She is not looking at criminal charges. Se is telling you what a POS Kavanaufh really is. Obviously, anyone who voted for the amoral POS Trump doesn't care how many girls Kavanaugh assaulted.
So, you believe he is a piece of shit based on her very very foggy recollections? How every dumb of you. Chances are you didn’t like him In the first place and you are willing to believe anything negative about him because it supports your narrative.

he's a POS for a lot of reasons.... belonging to a frat that sees women as nothing but 'pieces'? hanging with a dude that thinks 'women should be struck like gongs'? being a clerk for judge kosinski & claiming he didn't know about any of the nasty sexual harassment claims against him where he was found guilty of & now has that judges son as a clerk for him....


Shit stain.....the democrat party is the home of rapists and women killers.....and you asshats make them into heroes and protect them at all costs.....

ted kennedy, allowed a woman to die.....you call him the lion of the senate.

bill clinton has 3 credible allegations of actual rape with at least a dozen allegations of sexual assault...all reported at the time to friends and family and at least one to the Air Force chain of command...and you trot him out as an honored hero....

cory booker, admits to sexually assaulting a 15 year old girl.

bob menendez accused of child rape....

keith ellison has allegations of violently beating his girl friend on multiple occasions

sherrod brown hit his wife...

So spare us the holier than though b******t you asshat........

lol... i am not a (D).

& the rest is just deflective pablum.
 
No corroboration = an unsubstantiated determination in any investigation. Duh.....any further discussion is noise. This will neither be proven or disproven. The vote happens next week. If you are a progressive, get some KY this weekend.....here comes the bumpy.:cul2::cul2:

there was corroboration. 2012 medical notes & her husband... who are willing to be questioned t under oath & testify...


Yes....2012, when Mitt Romney said he would put Kavanaugh on a list for the Supreme Court...

She didn't tell anyone about the attack until 2012 when it "came out" during repressed memory therapy.......there was no corroboration, that is a lie and a joke. He didn't here about it until that therapy session, so she didn't even tell him, her husband for over 30 years....

This wouldn't even get to a trial, the judge in any local courtroom would have laughed her out of the place....

Did it really come out during "repressed memory" therapy?

From what I understand most therapists now don't even subscribe to "repressed memories". It was a huge 80s/early 90s fad that has been largely debunked. IOW if you don't remember it, it probably didn't happen.
 

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