"kill The Infidel, Whether He Is Civilian Or Military.”

Compared to:

Adherents.com, an independent website which specialises in collecting estimates of world religions, cites over thirty sources with estimates of numbers of Wiccans (principally from the USA and UK). From this, they developed a median estimate of 800,000 members.[

OR is duhs a satanist?

I can't keep you guys separate.

Wicca - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Suffice it to say, wiccans and satanists are not the ultimate authority on what constitutes "God" according to Christians..or Muslims.
 
Awesome. I invite our resident anti-Christian, anti-American pukes to flock to this thread and declare how Americans have made this way.

""If you can kill a nonbelieving American or European, especially the spiteful and filthy French, or an Australian, or a Canadian ... then rely upon God," he said."

I have to agree. the french are spiteful and filthy, but is that any reason to kill them? And they tend to have a higher Muslim population than their neighboring countries..maybe that lends itself to spitefulness and filthiness. Just sayin.

Islamic State s taunting speech calls for killing civilians - LA Times


maybe its time to put rightwing christians into mental health camps
You first...
 
I find it amazing how the USMB lefties will leap at every chance to defend even the most radical of Islamists. Then out of the other side of their hypocritical mouths they scream "WAR ON WOMEN!!!!"...
This in the face that Islam is the most patriarchal of all major religions. In fact Muslims view women as mere chattel.
 
Awesome. I invite our resident anti-Christian, anti-American pukes to flock to this thread and declare how Americans have made this way.

""If you can kill a nonbelieving American or European, especially the spiteful and filthy French, or an Australian, or a Canadian ... then rely upon God," he said."

I have to agree. the french are spiteful and filthy, but is that any reason to kill them? And they tend to have a higher Muslim population than their neighboring countries..maybe that lends itself to spitefulness and filthiness. Just sayin.

Islamic State s taunting speech calls for killing civilians - LA Times


maybe its time to put rightwing christians into mental health camps

Oh please do call the police and ask them to start arresting Christians. Oh and be sure to file multiple lawsuits seeking to commit Christians to residential psychiatric care.

Please do it, guno. Don't just masturbate about it, take action!


Religious Trauma Syndrome (RTS)

Religious Trauma Syndrome
Call the cops already.
 
I think at least 4 people told you that the Bronze Age did not occur in the 1500s, but you stubbornly maintained that everybody was lying or just not as well informed as you.

It truly was classic. It lives on as one of my favorite memories of USMB....I laughed for days over it, as did everybody else who had the slightest education past 7th grade, who read your ridiculous posturings.
LOVE IT WHEN YOU attempt to deflect.
as any one of sound mind would recall I apologized openly for that mistake and no I never maintained that everybody was lying or less informed than myself .
that as now was you making shit up.
you're the last person who should be talking about ridiculous posts. http://www.usmessageboard.com/search/814405/
No matter what crap you spew, you will never win this argument.
 
Anti-Christian bigots want to equate them, in order to equate Christians with terrorists. The goal is to make Christian worship *illegal* and get the authorization to kill/imprison Christians.

Don't believe me? Do a search of guno's posts.
false! but then again you can't help but see it that way. besides christians locked up, killed, destroyed thousands of other cultures in the name of "the faith".
payback's a bitch...
:clap::coffee::popcorn:
 
Here is a message on the truth about ISIL and Islam. Have you seen this, KG? It perfectly explains the reason for this news report in your OP. Let's hope Obama gets "the message"......



First of all I want to make clear I despise the Jihadists as much as you do. Any group who uses the barbaric murderous tactics of ISIS and seeks to convert "infidels" or kill them, and establish a world-wide religious empire, or "caliphate", must be fought and annihilated.

However this convert from Islam in this video is so far from the truth that I even have my doubts that he is what he purports to be. Anybody who claims Islam is a monolithic Religion whose adherents all share the same interpretation of the Koran and who all believe in violent Jihad is either purposely distorting the truth or is just ignorant of Muslim diversity of thought in the world today. And his narrative, if accepted by Christendom or the West in general would naturally lead to a battle to the death between us and over a billion Muslims. If you believe "all Islam is the enemy" what other coarse of action would there be?

Fortunately all Muslims aren't the same, they don't all share and emphasize the same violent interpretation of the Koran that these thugs do. The fact that even a couple of Sunni dominated Muslim countries in the region have officially joined in the fight against ISIS is stark proof of that truth.

The Salafi jihadists who preach the murderous ideology of ISIS are a relatively young sect that really blossomed in the mid 1990's according to Wikipedia, and Salafism itself is barely 100 years old. Wikipedia cites author and academic Gilles Kepel. "the Salafis whom he encountered in Europe in the 1980s were "totally apolitical". But by the mid-1990s he met some who felt jihad in the form of "violence and terrorism" was "justified to realize their political objectives". The combination of Salafi alienation from all things non-Muslim—including "mainstream European society"—and violent jihad created a "volatile mixture". It's also an historial irony that the Mujahideen America armed and trained to fight the Russians in the 80's morphed into Al Queda, and a faction of them morphed into ISIS. Another display of "the law of unintended consequences".

If looked at honestly and pragmatically their ideology is at least as much a perverted hyper-nationalist political movement as a religious one. And the foot soldiers who make up their fighting force are just as likely to be economically disenfranchised or pan-arabist youth as they are to be religiously motivated. There's a good article on ISIS recruiting tactics in Turkey here. I'll give you a little sample of what the Author found;

"One man said most Turks who join ISIL are poor people who are also ostracized by their families, and referred to a particular ISIL recruit. “He was a drug addict,” Kocabay says, “He doesn’t even pray. Isn’t there any criteria to join ISIL?”....

H.K, a fruit seller, says that children as young as 11 are using drugs in Gaziantep’s Güzelyurt neighborhood. “It is easy to deceive children. They are poor. ISIL deceived them by giving them money, then taking them to Iraq and Syria. Now they teach them there how to behead people,” he said....

Samet Köksal, a shopkeeper in Hacıbayram, said he cannot call ISIL “radical Islamists” because “it is annoying to mention these murderers with Islam.” “They don’t know about toilet etiquette. They use drugs, make their children and wives be beggars, but are still able to hang around in Hacıbayram, calling themselves ISIL jihadists. It hurts the spiritual nature of this place [which is named after an Islamic saint],” Köksal said."

Trying to tar all of Islam with the same brush would be like claiming all Christians adhere to all the Biblical exhortations to violence. I know you're a faithful Bible reader Jeremiah but I'll give a few examples of what I mean just to refresh your memory. I'll start with something from your namesake;

Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. Jeremiah 48:10

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. Isaiah 14:21

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Deuteronomy 13:13-19

However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Deuteronomy 20:13

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13


Okay, I could quote many more verses but that should be enough to convey my point that the Judeo-Christian literature has as many, or more violent passages as does the Koran. There's a good article here that lays out this idea very clearly. In part;

"Commands to kill, to commit ethnic cleansing, to institutionalize segregation, to hate and fear other races and religions . . . all are in the Bible, and occur with a far greater frequency than in the Koran. At every stage, we can argue what the passages in question mean, and certainly whether they should have any relevance for later ages. But the fact remains that the words are there, and their inclusion in the scripture means that they are, literally, canonized, no less than in the Muslim scripture".

And;

However strong the textual traditions justifying war and conflict, believers come instead to stress love and justice. Of course Muslim societies throughout history have engaged in jihad, in holy war, and have found textual warrant so to do. But over time, other potent strains in the religion moved away from literal warfare. However strong the calls to jihad, struggle, in Islamic thought, the hugely influential Sufi orders taught that the real struggle was the inner battle to control one's sinful human instincts, and this mattered vastly more than any pathetic clash of swords and spears. The Greater Jihad is one fought in the soul.

By the way the writer of that article is not Muslim, he's a teacher at Penn State as well as an author who has written a book on the history of Christianity.

I think you should look into your own soul Jeremiah and ask yourself if it's fair to condemn over a billion people because a tiny fraction of Muslims are espousing ideas that linger from the Middle Ages and that are re-imagined and hypocritically used by an even tinier faction of pseudo-religious nationalistic fanatics to sanctify their brutal Jihad.
 
Anti-Christian bigots want to equate them, in order to equate Christians with terrorists. The goal is to make Christian worship *illegal* and get the authorization to kill/imprison Christians.

Don't believe me? Do a search of guno's posts.


Kill?No, just place you where your ilk belongs in a mental health facility getting the help you people need and to protect society
 
Awesome. I invite our resident anti-Christian, anti-American pukes to flock to this thread and declare how Americans have made this way.

""If you can kill a nonbelieving American or European, especially the spiteful and filthy French, or an Australian, or a Canadian ... then rely upon God," he said."

I have to agree. the french are spiteful and filthy, but is that any reason to kill them? And they tend to have a higher Muslim population than their neighboring countries..maybe that lends itself to spitefulness and filthiness. Just sayin.

Islamic State s taunting speech calls for killing civilians - LA Times

At some point, moderate Muslims need to stop the radicals from their own religion. Otherwise, at some point in the future it will lead to an all out religious war which will be won by non-Muslims. It will involve the near complete genocide of all Muslims. Anyone who believes such a scenario impossible has little understanding of history.
 
Riiight...the yale wacko is more likely to accurately represent Christians.

you betcha, skippy.

You do realize that there are more Southern Baptists in the US than any other religion except Catholic..right? We are the mainstream. You need to stop pretending you aren't an extremist loon.
false! just because there are a lot of you does not mean you are the mainstream.
all it means is that a small portion of of your cult is less extreme than the rest.
also calling yourselves mainstream is not the same as actually being mainstream..
the "wacko" at yale knows more about the faith you profess to believe than all of your leaders put together
your faith is a subset of a subset born out of one of the many schisms that plague christianity.
I understand how logic reason and objectivity would appear to be extreme from your zero grasp on reality pov.
You are an idiot.
 
Here is a message on the truth about ISIL and Islam. Have you seen this, KG? It perfectly explains the reason for this news report in your OP. Let's hope Obama gets "the message"......



First of all I want to make clear I despise the Jihadists as much as you do. Any group who uses the barbaric murderous tactics of ISIS and seeks to convert "infidels" or kill them, and establish a world-wide religious empire, or "caliphate", must be fought and annihilated.

However this convert from Islam in this video is so far from the truth that I even have my doubts that he is what he purports to be. Anybody who claims Islam is a monolithic Religion whose adherents all share the same interpretation of the Koran and who all believe in violent Jihad is either purposely distorting the truth or is just ignorant of Muslim diversity of thought in the world today. And his narrative, if accepted by Christendom or the West in general would naturally lead to a battle to the death between us and over a billion Muslims. If you believe "all Islam is the enemy" what other coarse of action would there be?

Fortunately all Muslims aren't the same, they don't all share and emphasize the same violent interpretation of the Koran that these thugs do. The fact that even a couple of Sunni dominated Muslim countries in the region have officially joined in the fight against ISIS is stark proof of that truth.

The Salafi jihadists who preach the murderous ideology of ISIS are a relatively young sect that really blossomed in the mid 1990's according to Wikipedia, and Salafism itself is barely 100 years old. Wikipedia cites author and academic Gilles Kepel. "the Salafis whom he encountered in Europe in the 1980s were "totally apolitical". But by the mid-1990s he met some who felt jihad in the form of "violence and terrorism" was "justified to realize their political objectives". The combination of Salafi alienation from all things non-Muslim—including "mainstream European society"—and violent jihad created a "volatile mixture". It's also an historial irony that the Mujahideen America armed and trained to fight the Russians in the 80's morphed into Al Queda, and a faction of them morphed into ISIS. Another display of "the law of unintended consequences".

If looked at honestly and pragmatically their ideology is at least as much a perverted hyper-nationalist political movement as a religious one. And the foot soldiers who make up their fighting force are just as likely to be economically disenfranchised or pan-arabist youth as they are to be religiously motivated. There's a good article on ISIS recruiting tactics in Turkey here. I'll give you a little sample of what the Author found;

"One man said most Turks who join ISIL are poor people who are also ostracized by their families, and referred to a particular ISIL recruit. “He was a drug addict,” Kocabay says, “He doesn’t even pray. Isn’t there any criteria to join ISIL?”....

H.K, a fruit seller, says that children as young as 11 are using drugs in Gaziantep’s Güzelyurt neighborhood. “It is easy to deceive children. They are poor. ISIL deceived them by giving them money, then taking them to Iraq and Syria. Now they teach them there how to behead people,” he said....

Samet Köksal, a shopkeeper in Hacıbayram, said he cannot call ISIL “radical Islamists” because “it is annoying to mention these murderers with Islam.” “They don’t know about toilet etiquette. They use drugs, make their children and wives be beggars, but are still able to hang around in Hacıbayram, calling themselves ISIL jihadists. It hurts the spiritual nature of this place [which is named after an Islamic saint],” Köksal said."

Trying to tar all of Islam with the same brush would be like claiming all Christians adhere to all the Biblical exhortations to violence. I know you're a faithful Bible reader Jeremiah but I'll give a few examples of what I mean just to refresh your memory. I'll start with something from your namesake;

Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. Jeremiah 48:10

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. Isaiah 14:21

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Deuteronomy 13:13-19

However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Deuteronomy 20:13

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13


Okay, I could quote many more verses but that should be enough to convey my point that the Judeo-Christian literature has as many, or more violent passages as does the Koran. There's a good article here that lays out this idea very clearly. In part;

"Commands to kill, to commit ethnic cleansing, to institutionalize segregation, to hate and fear other races and religions . . . all are in the Bible, and occur with a far greater frequency than in the Koran. At every stage, we can argue what the passages in question mean, and certainly whether they should have any relevance for later ages. But the fact remains that the words are there, and their inclusion in the scripture means that they are, literally, canonized, no less than in the Muslim scripture".

And;

However strong the textual traditions justifying war and conflict, believers come instead to stress love and justice. Of course Muslim societies throughout history have engaged in jihad, in holy war, and have found textual warrant so to do. But over time, other potent strains in the religion moved away from literal warfare. However strong the calls to jihad, struggle, in Islamic thought, the hugely influential Sufi orders taught that the real struggle was the inner battle to control one's sinful human instincts, and this mattered vastly more than any pathetic clash of swords and spears. The Greater Jihad is one fought in the soul.

By the way the writer of that article is not Muslim, he's a teacher at Penn State as well as an author who has written a book on the history of Christianity.

I think you should look into your own soul Jeremiah and ask yourself if it's fair to condemn over a billion people because a tiny fraction of Muslims are espousing ideas that linger from the Middle Ages and that are re-imagined and hypocritically used by an even tinier faction of pseudo-religious nationalistic fanatics to sanctify their brutal Jihad.


Given time, it is very likely that Muslims will become the majority in most of Europe. If radical Islam has taken hold to such a degree that native Europeans truly feel threatened, then all bets are off. We will be headed toward WWIII and it will involve the near annihilation of all Muslims. To avoid such a scenario, it is up to moderate Muslims to destroy their own radicals.
 
Anti-Christian bigots want to equate them, in order to equate Christians with terrorists. The goal is to make Christian worship *illegal* and get the authorization to kill/imprison Christians.

Don't believe me? Do a search of guno's posts.


Kill?No, just place you where your ilk belongs in a mental health facility getting the help you people need and to protect society
Hahahah cry more fucktard.
 
You do understand that Baptists are the majority of Christians in this country, aside from Catholics, right?

If I have to explain everything to you repeatedly, we'll be here a loong time.


southern baptists were treasonous bastards that broke away because they supported slavery Sherman should have taken a torch to all their churches
 
I find it amazing how the USMB lefties will leap at every chance to defend even the most radical of Islamists. Then out of the other side of their hypocritical mouths they scream "WAR ON WOMEN!!!!"...
This in the face that Islam is the most patriarchal of all major religions. In fact Muslims view women as mere chattel.
So do progressives.
 
Awesome. I invite our resident anti-Christian, anti-American pukes to flock to this thread and declare how Americans have made this way.

""If you can kill a nonbelieving American or European, especially the spiteful and filthy French, or an Australian, or a Canadian ... then rely upon God," he said."

I have to agree. the french are spiteful and filthy, but is that any reason to kill them? And they tend to have a higher Muslim population than their neighboring countries..maybe that lends itself to spitefulness and filthiness. Just sayin.

Islamic State s taunting speech calls for killing civilians - LA Times

Bible doesn't make a distinction between civilian or military with all its calls to kill non-believers either. Glass houses...
 
Awesome. I invite our resident anti-Christian, anti-American pukes to flock to this thread and declare how Americans have made this way.

""If you can kill a nonbelieving American or European, especially the spiteful and filthy French, or an Australian, or a Canadian ... then rely upon God," he said."

I have to agree. the french are spiteful and filthy, but is that any reason to kill them? And they tend to have a higher Muslim population than their neighboring countries..maybe that lends itself to spitefulness and filthiness. Just sayin.

Islamic State s taunting speech calls for killing civilians - LA Times

Bible doesn't make a distinction between civilian or military with all its calls to kill non-believers either. Glass houses...

There is no "call to kill non-believers" in the bible, and there never has been. Educate yourself.
 
Please tell me you're dialing the police RIGHT NOW guno, and giving them names and addresses of Christians you want them to arrest and imprison.

Get on it now, time's a wastin!


Its only a matter of time until you people get the help you need whether Muslim or christian



Please report Christians, comrade! I'm begging you, do your part!


The French taught Americans about liberal democracy, freedom, and liberty. The Nazis taught Americans about right wing rhetoric and nationalism.
 
Awesome. I invite our resident anti-Christian, anti-American pukes to flock to this thread and declare how Americans have made this way.

""If you can kill a nonbelieving American or European, especially the spiteful and filthy French, or an Australian, or a Canadian ... then rely upon God," he said."

I have to agree. the french are spiteful and filthy, but is that any reason to kill them? And they tend to have a higher Muslim population than their neighboring countries..maybe that lends itself to spitefulness and filthiness. Just sayin.

Islamic State s taunting speech calls for killing civilians - LA Times

Bible doesn't make a distinction between civilian or military with all its calls to kill non-believers either. Glass houses...

There is no "call to kill non-believers" in the bible, and there never has been. Educate yourself.

There's actually about 3 such commandments:

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
 
That's why Jesus was sacrificed, so no one else need be put to death.

Aren't we lucky to have Jesus to pay for our sins?
 
Awesome. I invite our resident anti-Christian, anti-American pukes to flock to this thread and declare how Americans have made this way.

""If you can kill a nonbelieving American or European, especially the spiteful and filthy French, or an Australian, or a Canadian ... then rely upon God," he said."

I have to agree. the french are spiteful and filthy, but is that any reason to kill them? And they tend to have a higher Muslim population than their neighboring countries..maybe that lends itself to spitefulness and filthiness. Just sayin.

Islamic State s taunting speech calls for killing civilians - LA Times

Bible doesn't make a distinction between civilian or military with all its calls to kill non-believers either. Glass houses...

There is no "call to kill non-believers" in the bible, and there never has been. Educate yourself.

There's actually about 3 such commandments:

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

Meh. Not a call to kill non believers. A specific call, to a specific people, in a specific time.
 

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