Kingpin

[BreezeWood]

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You can pick any of the following to be your "Kingpin" status for the remainder of your life...
You are never going to be caught and punished for any crime... you are untouchable.
There is ZERO chance you will ever be assassinated or imprisoned by anyone.
This includes your immediate family and "inner circle". You truly ARE The Kingpin...

why are the reasons above a reason to chose one of the options ... though on second reading they would help if one of the options were chosen - was there a non of the above ... how is this a measure of morals and ethics if any are chosen and for the reasons given ...

 

[Boss]

why are the reasons above a reason to chose one of the options ... though on second reading they would help if one of the options were chosen - was there a non of the above ... how is this a measure of morals and ethics if any are chosen and for the reasons given ...

Look... no one is forcing you to participate. If you don't want to choose then don't choose. You're not "wrong" in not choosing, you're not "right" in choosing. There is no "wrong" or "right" here. Kingpin is simply a psychological challenge. I've explained that it's perfectly natural to not want to choose any of the above.... that's the challenge. I'm not trying to "trick" you... it's not going to be that those who took the challenge are morally flawed and those who didn't are morally superior. So that's not the point in case that was what you were thinking.

It's also not a "measure of morals and ethics" as you assert. It could be, I suppose, depending on your answer and justifications. But the intent of the thesis was not to form judgments on moral and ethical choices, merely to observe and examine them. I will be glad to expound further if there are enough participants. If not, there's not any point. I just though this would be a fun exercise here in the form of a poll question... maybe I was wrong... maybe it's a flop? So far, only five people (including me) have chosen to participate.

Each answer contains something of a positive and negative value.

. bossy, did you forget something, the other half - the positive ... seems to be missing.

I should've said "relatively speaking" instead of "something of" because you apparently misinterpreted me. I didn't mean a moral positive value.

 

[BreezeWood]

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I was hoping to draw more interest .... an enlightening thread.

 

[Pogo]

why are the reasons above a reason to chose one of the options ... though on second reading they would help if one of the options were chosen - was there a non of the above ... how is this a measure of morals and ethics if any are chosen and for the reasons given ...

Look... no one is forcing you to participate. If you don't want to choose then don't choose. You're not "wrong" in not choosing, you're not "right" in choosing. There is no "wrong" or "right" here. Kingpin is simply a psychological challenge. I've explained that it's perfectly natural to not want to choose any of the above.... that's the challenge. I'm not trying to "trick" you... it's not going to be that those who took the challenge are morally flawed and those who didn't are morally superior. So that's not the point in case that was what you were thinking.

It's also not a "measure of morals and ethics" as you assert. It could be, I suppose, depending on your answer and justifications. But the intent of the thesis was not to form judgments on moral and ethical choices, merely to observe and examine them. I will be glad to expound further if there are enough participants. If not, there's not any point. I just though this would be a fun exercise here in the form of a poll question... maybe I was wrong... maybe it's a flop? So far, only five people (including me) have chosen to participate.

Each answer contains something of a positive and negative value.

. bossy, did you forget something, the other half - the positive ... seems to be missing.

I should've said "relatively speaking" instead of "something of" because you apparently misinterpreted me. I didn't mean a moral positive value.

And the time you put into it is appreciated. It just isn't clear, to anyone apparently, where it's supposed to be going.

 

[Boss]

And the time you put into it is appreciated. It just isn't clear, to anyone apparently, where it's supposed to be going.

Well, if it were clear where it's going... meaning that I tell you everything revealed in the thesis, then making a selection from the poll question becomes pointless.

Not that this is like a trick but if I tell you how a card or magic trick works before you participate it spoils the trick. There are certain things revealed in your choices but if you know those things beforehand it prejudices your choices. So you can choose to participate or not but I can't reveal anything until there are enough participants to make this relevant.

 

[Pogo]

And the time you put into it is appreciated. It just isn't clear, to anyone apparently, where it's supposed to be going.

Well, if it were clear where it's going... meaning that I tell you everything revealed in the thesis, then making a selection from the poll question becomes pointless.

Not that this is like a trick but if I tell you how a card or magic trick works before you participate it spoils the trick. There are certain things revealed in your choices but if you know those things beforehand it prejudices your choices. So you can choose to participate or not but I can't reveal anything until there are enough participants to make this relevant.

OK well --- seems like kind of a self-defeating prophecy, considering all the choices given are unpalatable. If you find participants who don't find them all unpalatable, then presumably your only participants are "evil" people.

 

[Boss]

OK well --- seems like kind of a self-defeating prophecy, considering all the choices given are unpalatable. If you find participants who don't find them all unpalatable, then presumably your only participants are "evil" people.

But I've already said that's not the case. You're supposed to suspend your morality views to engage in participation. That's the challenge. The choices obviously aren't completely unpalatable, I picked one and so did 4 others. I don't believe that makes us evil people.

 

[Compost]

As much as it pains me (LOL) I sort of agree with Pogo. Are we going to get some feedback on what our choices mean or are you just jerking us off here?

I will definitely be sharing information I gained from the thesis research. At this point, I don't want to sway the poll by revealing too much. I had hoped to get a decent number of participants before I get into the intricacies.

So what the hell is the point?

It's really just a psychological exercise.

It's like you knocking on my door and offering me a poke in the eye, a punch in the throat, or a knee in the temple. I'm not going to choose one out of a menu that has nothing I want. Why would I do that?

In order to participate in the exercise.

Again, your option is not whether or not to be a Kingpin. For most people, that's an easy choice. After all, not many of us are aspiring Kingpins, right? The exercise can only attempt evaluation on those who choose to participate. The dichotomy is, you have to overcome your own moral proclivities to participate.

I will go into more detail about this later but for now, just know that you are in the vast majority in feeling somewhat conflicted about participating. That's precisely what makes "Kingpin" such a great psychological challenge.

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

 

[hobelim]

As much as it pains me (LOL) I sort of agree with Pogo. Are we going to get some feedback on what our choices mean or are you just jerking us off here?

I will definitely be sharing information I gained from the thesis research. At this point, I don't want to sway the poll by revealing too much. I had hoped to get a decent number of participants before I get into the intricacies.

So what the hell is the point?

It's really just a psychological exercise.

It's like you knocking on my door and offering me a poke in the eye, a punch in the throat, or a knee in the temple. I'm not going to choose one out of a menu that has nothing I want. Why would I do that?

In order to participate in the exercise.

Again, your option is not whether or not to be a Kingpin. For most people, that's an easy choice. After all, not many of us are aspiring Kingpins, right? The exercise can only attempt evaluation on those who choose to participate. The dichotomy is, you have to overcome your own moral proclivities to participate.

I will go into more detail about this later but for now, just know that you are in the vast majority in feeling somewhat conflicted about participating. That's precisely what makes "Kingpin" such a great psychological challenge.

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

psst, he just suckered all of you into making him the kingpin of this thread, more of a petty tyrant but still.

 

[Compost]

As much as it pains me (LOL) I sort of agree with Pogo. Are we going to get some feedback on what our choices mean or are you just jerking us off here?

I will definitely be sharing information I gained from the thesis research. At this point, I don't want to sway the poll by revealing too much. I had hoped to get a decent number of participants before I get into the intricacies.

So what the hell is the point?

It's really just a psychological exercise.

It's like you knocking on my door and offering me a poke in the eye, a punch in the throat, or a knee in the temple. I'm not going to choose one out of a menu that has nothing I want. Why would I do that?

In order to participate in the exercise.

Again, your option is not whether or not to be a Kingpin. For most people, that's an easy choice. After all, not many of us are aspiring Kingpins, right? The exercise can only attempt evaluation on those who choose to participate. The dichotomy is, you have to overcome your own moral proclivities to participate.

I will go into more detail about this later but for now, just know that you are in the vast majority in feeling somewhat conflicted about participating. That's precisely what makes "Kingpin" such a great psychological challenge.

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

psst, he just suckered all of you into making him the kingpin of this thread, more of a petty tyrant but still.

If true, that's good information.

 

[Boss]

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

I appreciate your interest and I'd love to share more but I've got to refrain until there are at least a dozen participants. Right now, there aren't even as many participants as options.

Perhaps more will join in now that the thread is bumped?

 

[Boss]

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

LMAO... I just looked out of curiosity and YOU haven't voted!

 

[BreezeWood]

As much as it pains me (LOL) I sort of agree with Pogo. Are we going to get some feedback on what our choices mean or are you just jerking us off here?

I will definitely be sharing information I gained from the thesis research. At this point, I don't want to sway the poll by revealing too much. I had hoped to get a decent number of participants before I get into the intricacies.

So what the hell is the point?

It's really just a psychological exercise.

It's like you knocking on my door and offering me a poke in the eye, a punch in the throat, or a knee in the temple. I'm not going to choose one out of a menu that has nothing I want. Why would I do that?

In order to participate in the exercise.

Again, your option is not whether or not to be a Kingpin. For most people, that's an easy choice. After all, not many of us are aspiring Kingpins, right? The exercise can only attempt evaluation on those who choose to participate. The dichotomy is, you have to overcome your own moral proclivities to participate.

I will go into more detail about this later but for now, just know that you are in the vast majority in feeling somewhat conflicted about participating. That's precisely what makes "Kingpin" such a great psychological challenge.

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

psst, he just suckered all of you into making him the kingpin of this thread, more of a petty tyrant but still.

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some can handle it, for the sake of entertainment if nothing else ...

 

[Compost]

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

LMAO... I just looked out of curiosity and YOU haven't voted!

I did vote as I indicated in my #8. You said you'd share what you learned. You are a reneger.

 

[Boss]

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

LMAO... I just looked out of curiosity and YOU haven't voted!

I did vote as I indicated in my #8. You said you'd share what you learned. You are a reneger.

Well you didn't answer the poll question and that's where your vote counts. Simply replying to the thread isn't a vote. So do your part and let's encourage some more participation so I can share more info. Thanks!

 

[Compost]

I'm sure you wanted more responses but how about sharing the information now, for those of us who are interested?

LMAO... I just looked out of curiosity and YOU haven't voted!

I did vote as I indicated in my #8. You said you'd share what you learned. You are a reneger.

Well you didn't answer the poll question and that's where your vote counts. Simply replying to the thread isn't a vote. So do your part and let's encourage some more participation so I can share more info. Thanks!

I don't know why my vote didn't show up. I do know that whether my vote is there or not doesn't change the fact that you are not sharing info as promised. You are just making excuses and being rude. You will waste no more of my time.

 

[Boss]

I don't know why my vote didn't show up. I do know that whether my vote is there or not doesn't change the fact that you are not sharing info as promised. You are just making excuses and being rude. You will waste no more of my time.

Well I'm sorry if you think I'm being rude or making excuses. I promised to share info when enough people had participated in the poll. Your vote isn't showing up.

The poll is very crucial to the information. I don't know how else I can explain it, I tried earlier. I need at least a dozen or so participants for the information I have to make any relevant sense. The actual thesis this comes from had a test study with about 100 participants. So I am scaling this way down already. Six people (including myself) just isn't going to get it man.

I assure you, I am as disappointed as you are. I really did want to share the information because I thought it was interesting and insightful. I wouldn't have bothered wasting my time doing this if I weren't intending to reveal all the info. Still, my decision is going to have to stand. Unless we can get at least another 6 people to take the poll, I'm not going any further.

 

[BreezeWood]

psst, he just suckered all of you into making him the kingpin of this thread, more of a petty tyrant but still.

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did they vote ...