Koch Brothers deep pockets are supporting .... TADA!!!

[Seawytch]

George Soros Campaign Contributions and Donations -- Huffington Post

George Soros - SourceWatch

- Bing

I should have clarified...Presidential candidate. (I believe donated to Obama in the 2008 Primary season)

Again, all money out...including unions, including George Soros, the Koch brothers and all their little Koch suckers. All of it.

Why don't conservatives support that?

I dont think we disagree on that point. But you know full well while your getting your wanted lip service neither side will go there.

That's why it is up to US, We the People to do it for them. They are addicts and so it is going to take tough love.

 

[NoNukes]

The left has NO shame whatsoever.

Unions are the working people, Koch Brothers are not.

You should drive past Jimmy Hoffa's home in Bloomfield Hills.


Aren't idealists cute?

Yes, he is really enjoying it.

 

[NoNukes]

The left has NO shame whatsoever.

Unions are the working people, Koch Brothers are not.

sure UNIONS are the working people, but what PARTY their dues goes to ISN'T their choice.

If not, then it is up to them to instigate a change.

 

[NoNukes]

The left has NO shame whatsoever.

Unions are the working people, Koch Brothers are not.

Unions are a bunch of thugs at least their bosses are and use the dues to their own political gain..

I agree, but unfortunately, they are a necessary evil.

 

[PredFan]

Congratulations, Mr. Cain!

Long ties to Koch brothers key to Cain’s campaign - The Washington Post

Cain’s campaign manager and a number of aides have worked for Americans for Prosperity, or AFP, the advocacy group founded with support from billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, which lobbies for lower taxes and less government regulation and spending. Cain credits a businessman who served on an AFP advisory board with helping devise his “9-9-9” plan to rewrite the nation’s tax code. And his years of speaking at AFP events have given the businessman and radio host a network of loyal grassroots fans.

The once little-known businessman’s political activities are getting fresh scrutiny these days since he soared to the top of some national polls.

His links to the Koch brothers could undercut his outsider, non-political image among tea party fans who detest politics as usual and candidates connected with the party machine.

Lord, I do love the internet. It's hard to pull the wool over people's eyes when they have instant access to full disclosure.

And in other news;

Herman Cain Newsweek Profile: Calls Obama 'Terrible,' Fires Back at Critics - The Daily Beast

Cain has spent most of his life individualizing the message of the civil-rights movement and insisting color should not play a role in modern politics. But such a view may begin to sound naive if his candidacy continues to alienate African-Americans. In the past week, Cain has had to fend off challenges from multiple black luminaries, including Cornell West, who accused Cain of “coldness toward poor people,” and Syracuse professor Boyce Watkins, who on CNN called him “the perfect racist.”

Georgetown professor Michael Eric Dyson told Newsweek he thinks of Cain as “Jimmy Stewart in blackface.” “He’s Mr. Smith goes to Washington. The good ol’ boy you just love. He’s the black man white people would prefer over Obama, and he’s the black man that is more like them and who thinks like them. He makes them feel they aren’t racist because they support him at this level and not Obama.’’

Singer and civil-rights activist Harry Belafonte, who made headlines when he called Cain a “bad apple” during a recent interview with Joy Behar, says it’s impossible to accept Cain as a black candidate with those politics. “I’m pretty sure African-Americans don’t take Cain seriously, but I’m not sure about white people,” Belafonte tells Newsweek. “They believe this black man is the real deal. He isn’t. Anyone who says what he says isn’t.”

Cain has fired back at his critics—and in doing so, only inflamed the controversy. “He’s been on that banana boat too long,” he says in response to Belafonte, accusing the 84-year-old performer of trying to “intimidate” people of color who might even consider supporting his candidacy. “Harry Belafonte called me a bad apple. Now he knows he’s not going to shut me up.” And speaking to other media outlets earlier this week, he said West had “been in academia too long” and was hung up on “symbolic stuff.”

Oh, yeah. This is going to be oodles of fun.

You propose to dictate who people can support?

 

[Si modo]

Which CANDIDATE has George Soros given money to?

George Soros Campaign Contributions and Donations -- Huffington Post

George Soros - SourceWatch

soros contributions - Bing

I should have clarified...Presidential candidate. (I believe he donated to Obama in the 2008 Primary season)

Again, all money out...including unions, including George Soros, the Koch brothers and all their little Koch suckers. All of it.

Why don't conservatives support that?

I don't support that because we cannot deny The People access to THEIR government...by The People, for The People.

However, the way campaigns are regulated now is a clusterfuck. We need fair campaign reform, heavy duty campaign reform. So, on that, we completely agree.

 

[Oddball]

Unions are the working people, Koch Brothers are not.

Unions are a bunch of thugs at least their bosses are and use the dues to their own political gain..

I agree, but unfortunately, they are a necessary evil.

AFSCME is entirely unnecessary.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If the Koch Brothers want to donate to Cain that is their business. But when are you left wingers going to admit that the Unions use their money for political gain all the time. That George Soros gives to the certain candidates all the time but your ok with it

No, actually, we aren't "ok" with it. When I hear liberals and progressives talk about getting the money out of our political system, we are talking about ALL of it. When "conservatives" talk about getting the money out of our politics, they only mention the unions. Funny that...

The only way to get money out of politics is to get the government out of the economy.

Shrink government by 90% and people won't be as interested in influencing government.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Then why is there only one in the top 10?

Top Overall Donors | OpenSecrets

Ok , we will go there , How about the top 15 donors are to democRATS
1 ActBlue $55,745,059 99% 0%
2 AT&T Inc $47,571,779 44% 55%
3 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $46,167,658 94% 1%

4 National Assn of Realtors $40,718,176 47% 49%

5 Service Employees International Union $37,634,367 75% 2%

6 National Education Assn $37,051,378 82% 5%

7 Goldman Sachs $35,790,579 60% 39%

8 American Assn for Justice $34,715,804 89% 8%

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $34,292,471 97% 2%

10 Laborers Union $31,876,950 89% 7%

11 American Federation of Teachers $31,681,366 91% 0%

12 Teamsters Union $31,285,842 89% 6%

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $30,769,258 86% 9%

14 Communications Workers of America $30,192,447 94% 0%
15 Citigroup Inc $28,842,146 49% 49%

First percentage is for democrats , second is to the rep

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets

So if campaign financing is such an issue, why did you guys hate McCain/Feingold and cheer the Citizen's United outcome?

I thought it was BDBoop that opened the pandoras box for discussion of campaign finance, along with DontBeStupid? Rebuttle the left with facts, and they already look to change the subject when they don't like what they hear.

 

[Chris]

Republican oil billionaires supporting a millionaire who used to work for the Federal Reserve.

What a surprise!

 

[Big Fitz]

You are a racist fuck, ain't cha?

Lemme guess, you call natives Apples if they're not just like you, don't you? I make the probably incorrect assumption you actually HAVE any native blood in you, since most 'online indians' are dumpy 40-something hausfraus who are emotional orphans to their husband who got disgusted at how far they let themselves go after punching out 3 bratty children, so they replace a real relationship with online fantasies of noble savages and online love affairs.

 

[Big Fitz]

Republican oil billionaires supporting a millionaire who used to work for the Federal Reserve.

What a surprise!

At least he achieved something in his life, or was he handed his merits by lotto?

Beats the shit out of supporting Occupados who's major accomplishment in life is getting out of their parents basement, and able to somewhat hazard the approximation of social interaction when forced to.

 

[Big Fitz]

Surprise surprise someone is in the pocket of billionaires. Interesting how Soros gets a pass for the same behaviour on the other side. Condemn it in both parties or don't bother raising the issue, it just makes you look like a tool.

Ah, Soros isn't running for President, Cain is. Soros is a billionaire, Cain is in the pocket of billionaires. Also, Soros earned his money, the kochroaches inherited theirs.

Getting Rich Off The Poor: How The Koch Brothers Wealth Grew 43% Since 2010

However, since the Kochroaches created the tea party, their income has - well, here's a pretty picture.

You can show actual proof that they "created" the tea party?

Or is this another pulled out of your ass accusation with no basis other than a hate-based fever dream?

Is it illegal or criminal to spot trends in the market and utilize them to maximize your economic good fortune? Or is profiting legitimately through smart investment and economic awareness criminal in your mind?

I think you need to go into rehab for your radical leftwing blog addiction. You're learning a lot of bullshit.

 

[PredFan]

Of course they cannot prove it, it isn't true. The Tea Party was founded by Libertarians in 2007 in response to Bush's reckless spending practices.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

So what? Al Gore was cought soliciting funds from foreign doners in clear violation of federal law and the left ignored it. Now the racist anti-semites on the left are trying to create a conspiracy, based on their own hatred, between a conservative and Jews. The world is upside down in the minds of liberals.

As Ricky Ricardo would say: "I believe the left has a lot of 'splaining to do".

Is the Koch Brothers as much of a violation in campaign contributions as allowing a foreign country to influence elections? (and here I thought it stopped with the Clinton's Campaign funding problems)

John Kerry's Chinese campaign connections
Tarnished Taiwanese-American donated big senatorial money

In 1996, Senator John Kerry was locked in a hard-fought and close reelection campaign with Massachusetts Governor William Weld. Kerry was the policy wonk, noted for his expertise in international crime, arms and drug dealing, and intelligence.

Although America's richest public servant -- married to a woman, Teresa Heinz, then worth an estimated $800-million -- he could not use that wealth in his campaign.

So, he relied on doing what every political candidate does: seeking big bucks contributions from people with deep pockets. And, in 1996, few had more money to burn than Johnny Chung, a Taiwanese-American entrepreneur from Artesia, California.

Chung gave $10,000 to Kerry's campaign -- most of it illegally -- hosted a fund-raising party in Beverly Hills, and threw in an extra $10,000 to honor Kerry at a Democratic Senate Campaign Committee event. Kerry eventually returned all the Chung money.

"Who is Colonel Liu?" asked William Triplett, a former Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffer and author of two books on Chinese influence in US politics. "She began her military intelligence career with Chinese Navy intelligence. She has been, in succession, assistant to the President of the China National Precision Machinery Import-Export Corporation and the China Great Wall Industries Corporation, both of whom have been sanctioned twice -- in 1991 and 1993 -- by the United States for ballistic missiles sales to Pakistan. She later became president of China Aerospace Industrial Holdings Ltd. and she made illegal campaign contributions to the Clinton Gore ticket and John Kerry in 1996.

. . . . .

Ms. Liu was part old China, part new. A lieutenant-colonel in the Chinese Peoples' Liberation Army, she was the daughter of China's most powerful soldier, who also sat on the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. But she is also U.S. educated, an English speaker with a fancy for Chanel suits bought on Rodeo Drive, and an inveterate gambler who could be found in Macau's better casinos.

To U.S. intelligence, she is also "player" in the arms trade -- and not small arms, but nuclear-capable missiles. Senior U.S. intelligence officials note that she helped put together the 1991 sale of Chinese M-11 missiles to Pakistan – a $300-million deal that led to United States sanctions against both her Chinese company and Pakistani companies.

msnbc.com - Breaking news, science and tech news, world news, US news, local news- msnbc.com

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Actually, no. Cain is running for president. If two brothers are pouring money into his "grass roots" campaign, then it is ALL our business. This is our election. We should all care about the money and where it comes from.

And AGAIN, you make an assumption about my views! When are you going to stop assuming and actually talk about the issue?

Yes we should care but your side doesnt. Several excellent examples have been given.

You guys didnt even mind secrets being thrown in.

Last I checked, "my side" is in favour of campaign finance reform. "Your side" is the one that opened the flood gates.

Is that why Obama threw in his support for the McCain Feingold Act, but when it came to his own Presidential election completely rejected it?

 

[Si modo]

If the Koch Brothers want to donate to Cain that is their business. But when are you left wingers going to admit that the Unions use their money for political gain all the time. That George Soros gives to the certain candidates all the time but your ok with it

No, actually, we aren't "ok" with it. When I hear liberals and progressives talk about getting the money out of our political system, we are talking about ALL of it. When "conservatives" talk about getting the money out of our politics, they only mention the unions. Funny that...

The only way to get money out of politics is to get the government out of the economy.

Shrink government by 90% and people won't be as interested in influencing government.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Lying. He's certainly not stupid. He thinks we are! But he's not.

He may not be lying, and he’s indeed not stupid – it could be yet another aspect of his ignorance.

Cain seems to be appealing to the Palin/TPM crowd: voters who see ‘virtue in ignorance.’ One need not know about foreign policy or other peoples and nations, Supreme Court decisions, or read books and newspapers, just know your job and bible. Cain does fit that bill and many on the right may perceive Cain as a replacement for Palin in that regard.

Did you not elect Obama based on domestic issues with the economy? I would like to hear about what foreign policy experience does a "community organizer" have?

 

[Amelia]

Lying. He's certainly not stupid. He thinks we are! But he's not.

He may not be lying, and he’s indeed not stupid – it could be yet another aspect of his ignorance.

Cain seems to be appealing to the Palin/TPM crowd: voters who see ‘virtue in ignorance.’ One need not know about foreign policy or other peoples and nations, Supreme Court decisions, or read books and newspapers, just know your job and bible. Cain does fit that bill and many on the right may perceive Cain as a replacement for Palin in that regard.

Did you not elect Obama based on domestic issues with the economy? I would like to hear about what foreign policy experience does a "community organizer" have?

Are you serious? They voted for him for "hope and change", bringing the military home and closing Guantanimo.

Domestic issues maybe. Economy? No.

 

[peach174]

The Black Democrats have used color as their power, not by what Martin Luther King advocated which was;
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

Herman Cain is more in tune with the message of MLK, not what the left have been doing since MLK"s death.

If the Koch brother's were supporting Cain, then where is the money?
It's not there because they haven't given him any money.