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Also, the forearm wasn't "obtained." Rittenhouse doesn't own it.He didn't own the firearm, so how was it illegal?Maybe he just wasn't a pussy. You probably can't understand.Rittenhouse went there with a group that had the stated intentions of helping people. His actions from what we have seen on video, support that as their actual intentions.
Really?
What group was that?
See, because I recall that members of the group he claimed to be with said they didn't know him...
When he was attacked he defended himself with restraint and skill, while in grave danger.
He stupidly put himself into a situation where he simply had no business being...
Considering that heroic is completely reasonable.
His actions weren't heroic at all. They were stupid...
Whether he was or wasn't a pussy is immaterial in this discussion.
The irrefutable fact is that he crossed state lines in order to illegally obtain a firearm, and he then used that firearm to kill two people.
Those are facts. That's exactly what happened...
The way you insist on leaving out the part where he was attacked by a violent mob?
If you were confident of your position, you would not do that.
I'm quite confident of my position.
The fact that a "violent mob" was chasing him will not absolve him of illegally obtaining a firearm and then using that illegal firearm to kill two people while violating a city-wide curfew...
killing those two people amounts to self defense,, the rest is a misdemeanor,,,
Conspiring to illegally obtain a firearm is a felony...
The manner in which he obtained the gun makes it illegal.
Black put the gun in his name (which was stupid) simply because he knew Rittenhouse couldn't legally own it.
Also, it's illegal for Rittenhouse to possess a firearm due to his age...
Both Rittenhouse and Black have confessed that Rittenhouse gave Black the money to buy the gun since Rittenhouse couldn't buy it himself. You can parse words, I suppose, but they both admitted why Rittenhouse gave him the money. It was so Black could buy him a gun.
Now, that's a separate issue altogether from the possession of a firearm, though, which cannot be argued. Rittenhouse had possession of the firearm and he shouldn't have, and the fact that he had it resulted in the deaths of two people...
I would say that the violent and criminal actions of those two people are what led to their deaths.
Yes, at the hands of a criminal wielding an illegal firearm...
Illegal because he was 17 instead 18. ANd if not for that, not a criminal.
Meanwhile you want to take responsibility for a violent assault, away from the people that made the violent assault and place the responsibility for the assault on their intended victim, who defended himself.
Yeah, I don't see the moral justification for your position. It seems to be based primarily on legal technicalities.
That's because you have some weird need to see this in terms of one party being right and the other party being wrong when, in fact, both parties were in the wrong...
You're in the wrong. Rittenhouse exercised his constitutional right to defend himself.Also, the forearm wasn't "obtained." Rittenhouse doesn't own it.He didn't own the firearm, so how was it illegal?Maybe he just wasn't a pussy. You probably can't understand.Rittenhouse went there with a group that had the stated intentions of helping people. His actions from what we have seen on video, support that as their actual intentions.
Really?
What group was that?
See, because I recall that members of the group he claimed to be with said they didn't know him...
When he was attacked he defended himself with restraint and skill, while in grave danger.
He stupidly put himself into a situation where he simply had no business being...
Considering that heroic is completely reasonable.
His actions weren't heroic at all. They were stupid...
Whether he was or wasn't a pussy is immaterial in this discussion.
The irrefutable fact is that he crossed state lines in order to illegally obtain a firearm, and he then used that firearm to kill two people.
Those are facts. That's exactly what happened...
The way you insist on leaving out the part where he was attacked by a violent mob?
If you were confident of your position, you would not do that.
I'm quite confident of my position.
The fact that a "violent mob" was chasing him will not absolve him of illegally obtaining a firearm and then using that illegal firearm to kill two people while violating a city-wide curfew...
killing those two people amounts to self defense,, the rest is a misdemeanor,,,
Conspiring to illegally obtain a firearm is a felony...
The manner in which he obtained the gun makes it illegal.
Black put the gun in his name (which was stupid) simply because he knew Rittenhouse couldn't legally own it.
Also, it's illegal for Rittenhouse to possess a firearm due to his age...
Both Rittenhouse and Black have confessed that Rittenhouse gave Black the money to buy the gun since Rittenhouse couldn't buy it himself. You can parse words, I suppose, but they both admitted why Rittenhouse gave him the money. It was so Black could buy him a gun.
Now, that's a separate issue altogether from the possession of a firearm, though, which cannot be argued. Rittenhouse had possession of the firearm and he shouldn't have, and the fact that he had it resulted in the deaths of two people...
I would say that the violent and criminal actions of those two people are what led to their deaths.
Yes, at the hands of a criminal wielding an illegal firearm...
Illegal because he was 17 instead 18. ANd if not for that, not a criminal.
Meanwhile you want to take responsibility for a violent assault, away from the people that made the violent assault and place the responsibility for the assault on their intended victim, who defended himself.
Yeah, I don't see the moral justification for your position. It seems to be based primarily on legal technicalities.
That's because you have some weird need to see this in terms of one party being right and the other party being wrong when, in fact, both parties were in the wrong...
If you believe that it was perfectly okay for him to conspire to illegally get a hold of a rifle, break curfew, and end up killing people, then you and I have nothing to discuss. I can sit back and wait for the outcome of the case...
you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
How soon are you gonna choose “civil war” to put an end to all that black lives mattering’ bullshit occupying your head. Gonna wait until LT Rittenhouse gets acquiited? You will need experienced killers on you side:
Young Kyle will be well worth the wait.
Kyle Rittenhouse flashes white-power sign at bar while out on bond
Photos show teen gunman Kyle Rittenhouse allegedly flashing white-power symbols while downing beers with members of the Proud Boys — images prosecutors are using to stiffen his bond condition…www.google.com
“The 18-year-old was celebrated by members of the right-wing group at a Wisconsin bar just 90 minutes after he was arraigned on Jan. 5 for the deadly Kenosha riots, Kenosha County prosecutors said in court documents.
Wearing a T-shirt reading “Free as F–k,” Rittenhouse was serenaded with the Proud Boys anthem, “Proud of Your Boy” — and then repeatedly made the “OK” sign, which has been “co-opted as a symbol of white supremacy/ white power” and used by neo-Nazis and the KKK, prosecutors alleged.
Let us know when the White Power boy you are so PROUD of Is ready to lead you in battle.
White Thuggery? White well actually hispanic 17 year shoots 3 violent convicted felons who attacked him?Rittenhouse is more of a man than you could ever be.What specifically do you need to know about prison sex?you seem infatuated/enchanted by prison sex. is there something you'd like to tell us. ?Yes, Kyle from Antioch will get his ass just what it needs.Fuck them, the rotten vermin got what they earned.He thought he was BMF when he was the only one with a gun. What I saw was People trying to disarm him and he shot and killed another human being with an illegal firearm, Mom should have made him stay home. no such thing as bad children just bad parents.Can't wait for him to be in jail and be that BOYFRIEND you always wanted.He was breaking the law before he ever fired shot.Antifa was around before BLM bunghole.i think #BLM wishes they hadn't given birth to antifa, but they did.
Kyle did the right thing about thirty times that day. no jury in the world would co9nvict him.
I am proud of him for showing up. ask any cop or military people, who hate biden and pelosi...
it's a given that if biden hadn't successfully cheated the country's executive branch..
cities would bern as prescribed by the #Bernie campaign..
George floyd was a trouble excon so high on meth and fenynal.. to call him a saint is tantamount to impeaching Trump. for all the wrong reasons.
the conspiracy theory of article 2 natural born citizen conspiracy theory has been debunked. twice, although the wiki page changes by the day...
kyle of Antioch will be in prison with the other alt-whities bending over for soap.
I will be happy when he hears the guilty verdict and cries for his mommy...
The Big Lie is still a thing for you? Get over it.
Cities will do what? Keep providing 71% of GDP in our country compared to red 29%.
So, now your a doctor and a racist...
YOu arrest people for defending themselves from violent mobs, you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
Funny you let out why he fired a shot.
It is almost like you don't want to openly be on the side of a violent mob led by a pedophile attacking an under age boy.
So, you are gloating at the idea of a young man being raped in prison?
Wow.
People who believe Kyle to be a "hero" can keep him supplied with KY Jelly.
are u any good at explaining climate change ?
Apparently it often involves a ginormous dude who's your cellie named "Bubba".
I'm more familiar with lesbian prison sex having once watched a porn flick on the subject.
Hopefully Don the Con and Rudy become more familiarized soon with the former.
He'll be whining like the little bitch he is when Bubba comes looking for him.
Another liberal happy with the thought of using rape to punish her political enemies.
This proves that all your talk of racism, or homophobia was always bullshit.
Rittenhouse isn't my "political enemy". He piece of human excrement on the bootheels of time.
He wanted a good time, shooting liberals, well, he's gonna get a "good time" for the rest of his life. You talk about this kid like he disagreed with liberals He went out and murdered people for the fun of it.
Rittenhouse probably doesn't have a political belief in his head. He's just a kid all jacked up on hate and testostorone and he got himself a gun. You're trying to make this young shitstain into some kind of folk hero. It reflects so badly on you that you are glorifying this thug.
He went there to help protect the community from violent rioters.
YOu know, rioters, like in dc. Rioters are bad, right?
He did not shoot anyone until he was attacked.
And now you want him to go to jail and be raped for hte rest of his life.
My point stands.
ALL, you talk of ANY racism, or homophobia, is revealed to be bullshit.
YOu don't care about Civil Rights as a principle. You only use a pretense of caring about them, to attack your enemies.
THe moment you have the power to violate the civil rights of one of your enemies, you are gloating with glee like a saturday matinee villain, at the thought of them suffering rape for the rest of their lives.
You are a tyrant, your side is one of tyranny.
We conservatives have seen this for years. We tried to warn people. But they dismissed us as alarmists and red baiters.
Now as you feel power coming to you, because of demographic shift, you pull of your mask and reveal the monsters you truly are.
Shit is going to get real.
Actually, I haven't though much about the fate of this thug at all. But I do recall you staunchly defending Brock Turner and his 6 month jail sentence for raping that women behind a dumpster. You seem to have a real problem holding white thuggery and violence to account for anything.
White boys can do no wrong in your eyes. At the same time you denigrate left wing protests, you glorify thugs and terrorists calling themselves "militias", and call the violence being perpetrated by these terrorists "patriotism". The rest of the world calls this "patriotism" right wing terrorism.
YOu arrest people for defending themselves from violent mobs, you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
is it your demand that our centuries aged criminal law system of investigating crime followed by indictment, arrest and trial be replaced by a system where white guys with guns never fire their weapons unless in self defense so there is never a need to go through all the investigation to trial stuff.
And specifically when the white guy is defending white people’s property from the black scourge that is trying to take over the entire country by riot upon endless riot.
You want civil war because Lt Rottenhouse has been ‘Arrested?
sick man sick. So
White Thuggery? White well actually hispanic 17 year shoots 3 violent convicted felons who attacked him?Rittenhouse is more of a man than you could ever be.What specifically do you need to know about prison sex?you seem infatuated/enchanted by prison sex. is there something you'd like to tell us. ?Yes, Kyle from Antioch will get his ass just what it needs.Fuck them, the rotten vermin got what they earned.He thought he was BMF when he was the only one with a gun. What I saw was People trying to disarm him and he shot and killed another human being with an illegal firearm, Mom should have made him stay home. no such thing as bad children just bad parents.Can't wait for him to be in jail and be that BOYFRIEND you always wanted.He was breaking the law before he ever fired shot.Antifa was around before BLM bunghole.i think #BLM wishes they hadn't given birth to antifa, but they did.
Kyle did the right thing about thirty times that day. no jury in the world would co9nvict him.
I am proud of him for showing up. ask any cop or military people, who hate biden and pelosi...
it's a given that if biden hadn't successfully cheated the country's executive branch..
cities would bern as prescribed by the #Bernie campaign..
George floyd was a trouble excon so high on meth and fenynal.. to call him a saint is tantamount to impeaching Trump. for all the wrong reasons.
the conspiracy theory of article 2 natural born citizen conspiracy theory has been debunked. twice, although the wiki page changes by the day...
kyle of Antioch will be in prison with the other alt-whities bending over for soap.
I will be happy when he hears the guilty verdict and cries for his mommy...
The Big Lie is still a thing for you? Get over it.
Cities will do what? Keep providing 71% of GDP in our country compared to red 29%.
So, now your a doctor and a racist...
YOu arrest people for defending themselves from violent mobs, you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
Funny you let out why he fired a shot.
It is almost like you don't want to openly be on the side of a violent mob led by a pedophile attacking an under age boy.
So, you are gloating at the idea of a young man being raped in prison?
Wow.
People who believe Kyle to be a "hero" can keep him supplied with KY Jelly.
are u any good at explaining climate change ?
Apparently it often involves a ginormous dude who's your cellie named "Bubba".
I'm more familiar with lesbian prison sex having once watched a porn flick on the subject.
Hopefully Don the Con and Rudy become more familiarized soon with the former.
He'll be whining like the little bitch he is when Bubba comes looking for him.
Another liberal happy with the thought of using rape to punish her political enemies.
This proves that all your talk of racism, or homophobia was always bullshit.
Rittenhouse isn't my "political enemy". He piece of human excrement on the bootheels of time.
He wanted a good time, shooting liberals, well, he's gonna get a "good time" for the rest of his life. You talk about this kid like he disagreed with liberals He went out and murdered people for the fun of it.
Rittenhouse probably doesn't have a political belief in his head. He's just a kid all jacked up on hate and testostorone and he got himself a gun. You're trying to make this young shitstain into some kind of folk hero. It reflects so badly on you that you are glorifying this thug.
He went there to help protect the community from violent rioters.
YOu know, rioters, like in dc. Rioters are bad, right?
He did not shoot anyone until he was attacked.
And now you want him to go to jail and be raped for hte rest of his life.
My point stands.
ALL, you talk of ANY racism, or homophobia, is revealed to be bullshit.
YOu don't care about Civil Rights as a principle. You only use a pretense of caring about them, to attack your enemies.
THe moment you have the power to violate the civil rights of one of your enemies, you are gloating with glee like a saturday matinee villain, at the thought of them suffering rape for the rest of their lives.
You are a tyrant, your side is one of tyranny.
We conservatives have seen this for years. We tried to warn people. But they dismissed us as alarmists and red baiters.
Now as you feel power coming to you, because of demographic shift, you pull of your mask and reveal the monsters you truly are.
Shit is going to get real.
Actually, I haven't though much about the fate of this thug at all. But I do recall you staunchly defending Brock Turner and his 6 month jail sentence for raping that women behind a dumpster. You seem to have a real problem holding white thuggery and violence to account for anything.
White boys can do no wrong in your eyes. At the same time you denigrate left wing protests, you glorify thugs and terrorists calling themselves "militias", and call the violence being perpetrated by these terrorists "patriotism". The rest of the world calls this "patriotism" right wing terrorism.
You are to ignorant to know what thuggery is.........Kid isn't a thug idiot----------he was trying to defend businesses and a burning city from violent stupid thugs who attacked him for his trouble.
YOu arrest people for defending themselves from violent mobs, you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
is it your demand that our centuries aged criminal law system of investigating crime followed by indictment, arrest and trial be replaced by a system where white guys with guns never fire their weapons unless in self defense so there is never a need to go through all the investigation to trial stuff.
And specifically when the white guy is defending white people’s property from the black scourge that is trying to take over the entire country by riot upon endless riot.
You want civil war because Lt Rottenhouse has been ‘Arrested?
sick man sick. So
Funny, even in your post, you admit that investigation should come before arrest.
In a clear case of self defense, the person defending themselves should not be punished with an arrest and time in jail and massive expense.
My point stands. If your side is going to be arresting people for defending themselves from mob violence, you are not leaving us any choice.
The dead guys were thugs and indeed, one was a pedophile to boot.White Thuggery? White well actually hispanic 17 year shoots 3 violent convicted felons who attacked him?Rittenhouse is more of a man than you could ever be.What specifically do you need to know about prison sex?you seem infatuated/enchanted by prison sex. is there something you'd like to tell us. ?Yes, Kyle from Antioch will get his ass just what it needs.Fuck them, the rotten vermin got what they earned.He thought he was BMF when he was the only one with a gun. What I saw was People trying to disarm him and he shot and killed another human being with an illegal firearm, Mom should have made him stay home. no such thing as bad children just bad parents.Can't wait for him to be in jail and be that BOYFRIEND you always wanted.He was breaking the law before he ever fired shot.Antifa was around before BLM bunghole.i think #BLM wishes they hadn't given birth to antifa, but they did.
Kyle did the right thing about thirty times that day. no jury in the world would co9nvict him.
I am proud of him for showing up. ask any cop or military people, who hate biden and pelosi...
it's a given that if biden hadn't successfully cheated the country's executive branch..
cities would bern as prescribed by the #Bernie campaign..
George floyd was a trouble excon so high on meth and fenynal.. to call him a saint is tantamount to impeaching Trump. for all the wrong reasons.
the conspiracy theory of article 2 natural born citizen conspiracy theory has been debunked. twice, although the wiki page changes by the day...
kyle of Antioch will be in prison with the other alt-whities bending over for soap.
I will be happy when he hears the guilty verdict and cries for his mommy...
The Big Lie is still a thing for you? Get over it.
Cities will do what? Keep providing 71% of GDP in our country compared to red 29%.
So, now your a doctor and a racist...
YOu arrest people for defending themselves from violent mobs, you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
Funny you let out why he fired a shot.
It is almost like you don't want to openly be on the side of a violent mob led by a pedophile attacking an under age boy.
So, you are gloating at the idea of a young man being raped in prison?
Wow.
People who believe Kyle to be a "hero" can keep him supplied with KY Jelly.
are u any good at explaining climate change ?
Apparently it often involves a ginormous dude who's your cellie named "Bubba".
I'm more familiar with lesbian prison sex having once watched a porn flick on the subject.
Hopefully Don the Con and Rudy become more familiarized soon with the former.
He'll be whining like the little bitch he is when Bubba comes looking for him.
Another liberal happy with the thought of using rape to punish her political enemies.
This proves that all your talk of racism, or homophobia was always bullshit.
Rittenhouse isn't my "political enemy". He piece of human excrement on the bootheels of time.
He wanted a good time, shooting liberals, well, he's gonna get a "good time" for the rest of his life. You talk about this kid like he disagreed with liberals He went out and murdered people for the fun of it.
Rittenhouse probably doesn't have a political belief in his head. He's just a kid all jacked up on hate and testostorone and he got himself a gun. You're trying to make this young shitstain into some kind of folk hero. It reflects so badly on you that you are glorifying this thug.
He went there to help protect the community from violent rioters.
YOu know, rioters, like in dc. Rioters are bad, right?
He did not shoot anyone until he was attacked.
And now you want him to go to jail and be raped for hte rest of his life.
My point stands.
ALL, you talk of ANY racism, or homophobia, is revealed to be bullshit.
YOu don't care about Civil Rights as a principle. You only use a pretense of caring about them, to attack your enemies.
THe moment you have the power to violate the civil rights of one of your enemies, you are gloating with glee like a saturday matinee villain, at the thought of them suffering rape for the rest of their lives.
You are a tyrant, your side is one of tyranny.
We conservatives have seen this for years. We tried to warn people. But they dismissed us as alarmists and red baiters.
Now as you feel power coming to you, because of demographic shift, you pull of your mask and reveal the monsters you truly are.
Shit is going to get real.
Actually, I haven't though much about the fate of this thug at all. But I do recall you staunchly defending Brock Turner and his 6 month jail sentence for raping that women behind a dumpster. You seem to have a real problem holding white thuggery and violence to account for anything.
White boys can do no wrong in your eyes. At the same time you denigrate left wing protests, you glorify thugs and terrorists calling themselves "militias", and call the violence being perpetrated by these terrorists "patriotism". The rest of the world calls this "patriotism" right wing terrorism.
You are to ignorant to know what thuggery is.........Kid isn't a thug idiot----------he was trying to defend businesses and a burning city from violent stupid thugs who attacked him for his trouble.
I know what thuggery is. This kid is a thug. He wasn't there to protect businesses regardless of what he said. He was there for the fight. To kick liberal butt. He was going to be a badass with his new gun!!!!!
Every thug has a justification for his thuggery. I'm just protecting businesses. George Zimmerman was just a guy from neighbourhood watch. These people are THUGS looking for a fight. That is all they are - nothing more.
You want society to ignore the mob violence and focus instead on the terrible "taint" of a gun that was not approved by the State.You want society to ignore the mob violence and focus instead on the terrible "taint" of a gun that was not approved by the State.
That is the question for society. To side with the young man defending him self with a "tainted gun" or the violent mob that attackedYour suggesting that what the good people of this nation should do in the face of violent mobs, is to let them rule the streets burning, looting and killing, so as to not provoke them,You are siding with the violent mob,
Is there a cure for Blackmobaphobia?
you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
How soon are you gonna choose “civil war” to put an end to all that black lives mattering’ bullshit occupying your head. Gonna wait until LT Rittenhouse gets acquiited? You will need experienced killers on you side:
Young Kyle will be well worth the wait.
Kyle Rittenhouse flashes white-power sign at bar while out on bond
Photos show teen gunman Kyle Rittenhouse allegedly flashing white-power symbols while downing beers with members of the Proud Boys — images prosecutors are using to stiffen his bond condition…
“The 18-year-old was celebrated by members of the right-wing group at a Wisconsin bar just 90 minutes after he was arraigned on Jan. 5 for the deadly Kenosha riots, Kenosha County prosecutors said in court documents.
Wearing a T-shirt reading “Free as F–k,” Rittenhouse was serenaded with the Proud Boys anthem, “Proud of Your Boy” — and then repeatedly made the “OK” sign, which has been “co-opted as a symbol of white supremacy/ white power” and used by neo-Nazis and the KKK, prosecutors alleged.
Let us know when the White Power boy you are so PROUD of Is ready to lead you in battle.
His mother sure sounds like a real piece of work...
White Thuggery? White well actually hispanic 17 year shoots 3 violent convicted felons who attacked him?Rittenhouse is more of a man than you could ever be.What specifically do you need to know about prison sex?you seem infatuated/enchanted by prison sex. is there something you'd like to tell us. ?Yes, Kyle from Antioch will get his ass just what it needs.Fuck them, the rotten vermin got what they earned.He thought he was BMF when he was the only one with a gun. What I saw was People trying to disarm him and he shot and killed another human being with an illegal firearm, Mom should have made him stay home. no such thing as bad children just bad parents.Can't wait for him to be in jail and be that BOYFRIEND you always wanted.He was breaking the law before he ever fired shot.Antifa was around before BLM bunghole.i think #BLM wishes they hadn't given birth to antifa, but they did.
Kyle did the right thing about thirty times that day. no jury in the world would co9nvict him.
I am proud of him for showing up. ask any cop or military people, who hate biden and pelosi...
it's a given that if biden hadn't successfully cheated the country's executive branch..
cities would bern as prescribed by the #Bernie campaign..
George floyd was a trouble excon so high on meth and fenynal.. to call him a saint is tantamount to impeaching Trump. for all the wrong reasons.
the conspiracy theory of article 2 natural born citizen conspiracy theory has been debunked. twice, although the wiki page changes by the day...
kyle of Antioch will be in prison with the other alt-whities bending over for soap.
I will be happy when he hears the guilty verdict and cries for his mommy...
The Big Lie is still a thing for you? Get over it.
Cities will do what? Keep providing 71% of GDP in our country compared to red 29%.
So, now your a doctor and a racist...
YOu arrest people for defending themselves from violent mobs, you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
Funny you let out why he fired a shot.
It is almost like you don't want to openly be on the side of a violent mob led by a pedophile attacking an under age boy.
So, you are gloating at the idea of a young man being raped in prison?
Wow.
People who believe Kyle to be a "hero" can keep him supplied with KY Jelly.
are u any good at explaining climate change ?
Apparently it often involves a ginormous dude who's your cellie named "Bubba".
I'm more familiar with lesbian prison sex having once watched a porn flick on the subject.
Hopefully Don the Con and Rudy become more familiarized soon with the former.
He'll be whining like the little bitch he is when Bubba comes looking for him.
Another liberal happy with the thought of using rape to punish her political enemies.
This proves that all your talk of racism, or homophobia was always bullshit.
Rittenhouse isn't my "political enemy". He piece of human excrement on the bootheels of time.
He wanted a good time, shooting liberals, well, he's gonna get a "good time" for the rest of his life. You talk about this kid like he disagreed with liberals He went out and murdered people for the fun of it.
Rittenhouse probably doesn't have a political belief in his head. He's just a kid all jacked up on hate and testostorone and he got himself a gun. You're trying to make this young shitstain into some kind of folk hero. It reflects so badly on you that you are glorifying this thug.
He went there to help protect the community from violent rioters.
YOu know, rioters, like in dc. Rioters are bad, right?
He did not shoot anyone until he was attacked.
And now you want him to go to jail and be raped for hte rest of his life.
My point stands.
ALL, you talk of ANY racism, or homophobia, is revealed to be bullshit.
YOu don't care about Civil Rights as a principle. You only use a pretense of caring about them, to attack your enemies.
THe moment you have the power to violate the civil rights of one of your enemies, you are gloating with glee like a saturday matinee villain, at the thought of them suffering rape for the rest of their lives.
You are a tyrant, your side is one of tyranny.
We conservatives have seen this for years. We tried to warn people. But they dismissed us as alarmists and red baiters.
Now as you feel power coming to you, because of demographic shift, you pull of your mask and reveal the monsters you truly are.
Shit is going to get real.
Actually, I haven't though much about the fate of this thug at all. But I do recall you staunchly defending Brock Turner and his 6 month jail sentence for raping that women behind a dumpster. You seem to have a real problem holding white thuggery and violence to account for anything.
White boys can do no wrong in your eyes. At the same time you denigrate left wing protests, you glorify thugs and terrorists calling themselves "militias", and call the violence being perpetrated by these terrorists "patriotism". The rest of the world calls this "patriotism" right wing terrorism.
You are to ignorant to know what thuggery is.........Kid isn't a thug idiot----------he was trying to defend businesses and a burning city from violent stupid thugs who attacked him for his trouble.
I know what thuggery is. This kid is a thug. He wasn't there to protect businesses regardless of what he said. He was there for the fight. To kick liberal butt. He was going to be a badass with his new gun!!!!!
Every thug has a justification for his thuggery. I'm just protecting businesses. George Zimmerman was just a guy from neighbourhood watch. These people are THUGS looking for a fight. That is all they are - nothing more.
YOu arrest people for defending themselves from violent mobs, you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
is it your demand that our centuries aged criminal law system of investigating crime followed by indictment, arrest and trial be replaced by a system where white guys with guns never fire their weapons unless in self defense so there is never a need to go through all the investigation to trial stuff.
And specifically when the white guy is defending white people’s property from the black scourge that is trying to take over the entire country by riot upon endless riot.
You want civil war because Lt Rottenhouse has been ‘Arrested?
sick man sick. So
Funny, even in your post, you admit that investigation should come before arrest.
In a clear case of self defense, the person defending themselves should not be punished with an arrest and time in jail and massive expense.
My point stands. If your side is going to be arresting people for defending themselves from mob violence, you are not leaving us any choice.
This is not a "self-defense" case. There is no defense for that boy being in that city with a gun. He didn't live or work in the Kenosha. His only reason for being there with an illegal weapon, was to get involved in the fight.
You keep lying about the reason he was being attacked. The initial video shows him in the parking lot with the first man he shot. If he felt in danger, he wasn't calling for help before he shot the guy, and he wasn't alone in that parking lot with him. There were dozens of people around if he called for help.
Instead of asking for help from the dozens of people there, he shot the guy. And when people came after him for shooting that man, he shot two more people. The first shooting was completely unjustified. As was his presence in Kenosha. No way this thug walks on these multiple felonies. He went to Kenosha with an illegal gun and killed two people with it. Given his premeditation for buying the gun on his way to the riot, that's first degree murder.
The ok sign is not a white power sign
The ok sign is not a white power sign
You are a liar. There was the 4CHAN joke, but not all flashing is a joke since then.
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The little Nazi hooked up with Boogaloo boys to protect property in Kenosha. Some Boogaloo boys hope to incite a Civil War based on race. When the little Nazi flash of the same while grading his fellow Boogaloo boys are proud boys it’s fair to us to except that the flash is a symbol for a white supremacists.
from what youre pushing you have no respect for the 2nd or the constitution,, and all the insults and name calling is gonna change that,, in fact it proves i'm right,,we will check you off as anti 2nd A and anti- constitution,,,you either support the constitution or you dont,, I support it and it seems like you dont,,,nice dodge,,are you saying state laws over rule the constitution???
cause the last I heard the constitution is the supreme law of the land
If that's true, why does Rittenhouse have a $2 million bail?
if what youre saying is true and states can over rule the constitution I am sure youre OK with eliminating due process and jailing or executing people without a trial,,
you either support it or you dont,,, there is no middle ground,,
I didn't dodge anything. Your position is one which dictates that Rittenhouse should be released and all charges dropped, but that hasn't happened, nor does it look likely. I'm simply asking why that is.
And then, if you would be so kind, please explain how it is that different states have different laws pertaining to firearms. Some mirror federal law, but many do not. Surely, if all of these laws were unconstitutional, they'd have been successfully challenged by now.
If your position is one which dictates that individual states cannot enact laws, then you're truly lost...
on a side note I looked up the age requirement for the wis. national guard and low and behold you can join at 17
"Be between the ages of 17 and 35. Be a U.S. citizen or permanent resident. Be at least a junior in high school, or have a high school diploma or a GED certificate."
so I guess its OK to be armed if youre working for the government but not as a private citizen,,,
Essentially, yes.
You can join the Marines at age 17 if you have parent's consent (that's the same with the Guard, unless you're emancipated).
Why don't you look up the law regarding possession of a firearm by a minor...
I posted the law on guns/arms in this country,,,
Child gun laws in Wisconsin, and how adults could face jail time
Possession of a gun by anyone under 18 is a misdemeanor, unless that gun is being used for target practice, hunting or the child is a member of the armed forces.
(I'm pretty sure if the gun is then used in a homicide it's a felony; still working that one)
Giving, loaning or selling a dangerous weapon to someone under 18 is a felony and carries a sentence of up to 3½ years in prison and a $10,000 fine unless the firearm is used for target practice or hunting. If that gun is used in a homicide or suicide, the person can be charged with a felony carrying up to six years in prison and a $10,000 fine.
Like it or not, the law in Wisconsin is quite clear. Rittenhouse and Black both broke the law.
And individual states have every right to enact their own laws...
And that's all you'd have to do to prove that you're a fucking ignorant dipshit.
I'm a strong proponent of the 2nd Amendment, dickbag. And the Constitution? I spent 20 years defending it. Unless you can say the same, eat my shit, you ignorant cocksucker...
You are to ignorant to know what thuggery is.........Kid isn't a thug idiot----------he was trying to defend businesses and a burning city from violent stupid thugs who attacked him for his trouble.
You are to ignorant to know what thuggery is.........Kid isn't a thug idiot----------he was trying to defend businesses and a burning city from violent stupid thugs who attacked him for his trouble.
Sure he was - Definitely
And the assholes trying to kill him weren’t?He was breaking the law before he ever fired shot.Antifa was around before BLM bunghole.i think #BLM wishes they hadn't given birth to antifa, but they did.
Kyle did the right thing about thirty times that day. no jury in the world would co9nvict him.
I am proud of him for showing up. ask any cop or military people, who hate biden and pelosi...
it's a given that if biden hadn't successfully cheated the country's executive branch..
cities would bern as prescribed by the #Bernie campaign..
George floyd was a trouble excon so high on meth and fenynal.. to call him a saint is tantamount to impeaching Trump. for all the wrong reasons.
the conspiracy theory of article 2 natural born citizen conspiracy theory has been debunked. twice, although the wiki page changes by the day...
kyle of Antioch will be in prison with the other alt-whities bending over for soap.
I will be happy when he hears the guilty verdict and cries for his mommy...
The Big Lie is still a thing for you? Get over it.
Cities will do what? Keep providing 71% of GDP in our country compared to red 29%.
So, now your a doctor and a racist...
YOu arrest people for defending themselves from violent mobs, you aren't leaving us much choice except civil war.
He only killed one guy, the child molester.That kid's life is over. It's a shame he had to murder those folks. The entire thing is tragic.
You're in the wrong. Rittenhouse exercised his constitutional right to defend himself.Also, the forearm wasn't "obtained." Rittenhouse doesn't own it.He didn't own the firearm, so how was it illegal?Maybe he just wasn't a pussy. You probably can't understand.Rittenhouse went there with a group that had the stated intentions of helping people. His actions from what we have seen on video, support that as their actual intentions.
Really?
What group was that?
See, because I recall that members of the group he claimed to be with said they didn't know him...
When he was attacked he defended himself with restraint and skill, while in grave danger.
He stupidly put himself into a situation where he simply had no business being...
Considering that heroic is completely reasonable.
His actions weren't heroic at all. They were stupid...
Whether he was or wasn't a pussy is immaterial in this discussion.
The irrefutable fact is that he crossed state lines in order to illegally obtain a firearm, and he then used that firearm to kill two people.
Those are facts. That's exactly what happened...
The way you insist on leaving out the part where he was attacked by a violent mob?
If you were confident of your position, you would not do that.
I'm quite confident of my position.
The fact that a "violent mob" was chasing him will not absolve him of illegally obtaining a firearm and then using that illegal firearm to kill two people while violating a city-wide curfew...
killing those two people amounts to self defense,, the rest is a misdemeanor,,,
Conspiring to illegally obtain a firearm is a felony...
The manner in which he obtained the gun makes it illegal.
Black put the gun in his name (which was stupid) simply because he knew Rittenhouse couldn't legally own it.
Also, it's illegal for Rittenhouse to possess a firearm due to his age...
Both Rittenhouse and Black have confessed that Rittenhouse gave Black the money to buy the gun since Rittenhouse couldn't buy it himself. You can parse words, I suppose, but they both admitted why Rittenhouse gave him the money. It was so Black could buy him a gun.
Now, that's a separate issue altogether from the possession of a firearm, though, which cannot be argued. Rittenhouse had possession of the firearm and he shouldn't have, and the fact that he had it resulted in the deaths of two people...
I would say that the violent and criminal actions of those two people are what led to their deaths.
Yes, at the hands of a criminal wielding an illegal firearm...
Illegal because he was 17 instead 18. ANd if not for that, not a criminal.
Meanwhile you want to take responsibility for a violent assault, away from the people that made the violent assault and place the responsibility for the assault on their intended victim, who defended himself.
Yeah, I don't see the moral justification for your position. It seems to be based primarily on legal technicalities.
That's because you have some weird need to see this in terms of one party being right and the other party being wrong when, in fact, both parties were in the wrong...
If you believe that it was perfectly okay for him to conspire to illegally get a hold of a rifle, break curfew, and end up killing people, then you and I have nothing to discuss. I can sit back and wait for the outcome of the case...
The way you leave out the violent mob attack, is not ok.
