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Last Sunday there were 44 gun related deaths in the US

Do you think this Sunday will see less or more deaths ?

Apparently there have been around 4000 gun deaths in the US this year.

Why is it acceptable ?

But, but, but there were 11,964 incidents yesterday when a gun was not used but still prevented a crime by its presence. Ask 2aguy, he'll document each incident.

---SARCASM ALERT---

No....I won't.....I just use the statistics researched by the Department of Justice when bill clinton was President...and when Obama told the CDC to research all of the gun crime statistics in 2013....he spent 10 million dollars of our tax money to do that.....

And they found that Americans used guns to stop crime 1,500,000 times a year....
 
So the NRA wants people locked up after the fact, but doesn't want to do anything to stop the deaths. Got it.
You are an idiot. The so called prevention by prohibiting gun ownership is a gimmick and nothing else. Lack of understanding of life itself also. If your time is up you will go, no matter what or how. You cannot save shit dude, you don't even know for sure if you are going to be still alive a minute from now.
Wow, that was almost coherent. Care to try again?
Coherent enough to upset you....:badgrin:
The only people upset here are the ones currently falling all over each other to respond to me with something off topics, like "you're dumb" or some other witty retort.
Your attack on our unalienable right recognized by our Constitution/Bill of Rights is despicable.
The Constitution has been changed 27 times already. It's time for another update, because what's going on right now isn't working.
 
How many were home invaders dying? :D
How many were children killing other children because mommy or daddy carelessly left a loaded gun where the kids could get it? How many were policemen shot by people that should never have had a gun in the first place? And why does the NRA support letting mentally impaired people have guns?

I have been a gun owner for over 60 years. But I do not like the fucked up gun culture that you and the NRA support. I do not and will not own a modern assault weapon, such weapons in the hands of the general public leads to atrocities such as Sandy Hook.
 
Do you think this Sunday will see less or more deaths ?

Apparently there have been around 4000 gun deaths in the US this year.

Why is it acceptable ?

But, but, but there were 11,964 incidents yesterday when a gun was not used but still prevented a crime by its presence. Ask 2aguy, he'll document each incident.

---SARCASM ALERT---

No....I won't.....I just use the statistics researched by the Department of Justice when bill clinton was President...and when Obama told the CDC to research all of the gun crime statistics in 2013....he spent 10 million dollars of our tax money to do that.....

And they found that Americans used guns to stop crime 1,500,000 times a year....
And how many times a year are guns used in crimes? And is our crime rate significantly lower than those of France, Britain, or Australia? If it is not, then guns obviously do not stop crime.
 
You are an idiot. The so called prevention by prohibiting gun ownership is a gimmick and nothing else. Lack of understanding of life itself also. If your time is up you will go, no matter what or how. You cannot save shit dude, you don't even know for sure if you are going to be still alive a minute from now.
Wow, that was almost coherent. Care to try again?
Coherent enough to upset you....:badgrin:
The only people upset here are the ones currently falling all over each other to respond to me with something off topics, like "you're dumb" or some other witty retort.
Your attack on our unalienable right recognized by our Constitution/Bill of Rights is despicable.
The Constitution has been changed 27 times already. It's time for another update, because what's going on right now isn't working.
Your ulterior motives and subversive activities need no more proof than the above.
 
Wow, that was almost coherent. Care to try again?
Coherent enough to upset you....:badgrin:
The only people upset here are the ones currently falling all over each other to respond to me with something off topics, like "you're dumb" or some other witty retort.
Your attack on our unalienable right recognized by our Constitution/Bill of Rights is despicable.
The Constitution has been changed 27 times already. It's time for another update, because what's going on right now isn't working.
Your ulterior motives and subversive activities need no more proof than the above.
Trying to get the murder rate down is a subversive activity? Who are you, Don Corleone?
 
How many were home invaders dying? :D
How many were children killing other children because mommy or daddy carelessly left a loaded gun where the kids could get it? How many were policemen shot by people that should never have had a gun in the first place? And why does the NRA support letting mentally impaired people have guns?

I have been a gun owner for over 60 years. But I do not like the fucked up gun culture that you and the NRA support. I do not and will not own a modern assault weapon, such weapons in the hands of the general public leads to atrocities such as Sandy Hook.


Here you go....keep in mind, as of the 2010 census there were 74.2 million kids in the U.S.


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC
Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135



murder of children by other means.....703
Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69
Total accidental gun death for kids in 2014...50
2015...48

2014...50
2013...69
2012...58
2011...74
2010...62
2009...48
2008...62
2007...65
2006...54
2005...75
2004...63
2003...56
2002...60
2001...72
2000...86
1999...88
 
How many were home invaders dying? :D
How many were children killing other children because mommy or daddy carelessly left a loaded gun where the kids could get it? How many were policemen shot by people that should never have had a gun in the first place? And why does the NRA support letting mentally impaired people have guns?

I have been a gun owner for over 60 years. But I do not like the fucked up gun culture that you and the NRA support. I do not and will not own a modern assault weapon, such weapons in the hands of the general public leads to atrocities such as Sandy Hook.


And cars kill far more children than guns do...and we let 16 year old drive them unsupervised....

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

Death by car and gun by age, 1015...

<1.... Car 64, Gun 1

1-4.... Car 332, Gun 25

5-9.... Car 351, Gun 7

10-14.... Car 412, Gun 15

15-19.... Car 2,535, Gun 52

Total Car.... 3,694

Total Gun.... 100


Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935
 
How many were home invaders dying? :D
How many were children killing other children because mommy or daddy carelessly left a loaded gun where the kids could get it? How many were policemen shot by people that should never have had a gun in the first place? And why does the NRA support letting mentally impaired people have guns?

I have been a gun owner for over 60 years. But I do not like the fucked up gun culture that you and the NRA support. I do not and will not own a modern assault weapon, such weapons in the hands of the general public leads to atrocities such as Sandy Hook.


More people are killed by knives every year than rifles of all kinds....

Will you cut off your hands...since they kill more people than rifles do...genius....

Will you ban knives...since they kill more people than rifles do....genius...

Will you ban sticks and pieces of would and other straight objects...since they kill more people than rifles do...

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


rifles....252

knives 1,544

clubs 437

hands 624
 
Do you think this Sunday will see less or more deaths ?

Apparently there have been around 4000 gun deaths in the US this year.

Why is it acceptable ?


Why does Britain tolerate more violence in their country than the rest of Europe and even the United States? Your gun crime rate went up 4%...after the ban...and up 10% in London and other major cities.....after the ban in 2015....

Why are you tolerating the stabbings and the shootings....?

Our gun murder rate went down 49%.....and our violent crime rate went down 75%.......yours is going up...why do you tolerate that?
Well here are the stats for 2014, seems that our murder rate per million is far greater than that of Britain.

United Kingdom vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats kingdom

Murders committed by youths per capita 0.9
Ranked 53th. 11
Ranked 14th. 12 times more than United Kingdom
Drugs > Opiates use 0.9%
Ranked 1st. 58% more than United States 0.57%
Ranked 3rd.
Rape victims 0.9%
Ranked 6th. 2 times more than United States 0.4%
Ranked 13th.
Murders with firearms per million 0.236
Ranked 44th. 32.57
Ranked 10th. 138 times more than United Kingdom
Judges and Magistrates 1,330
Ranked 24th. 29,023
Ranked 3rd. 22 times more than United Kingdom
Justice system > Punishment >Capital punishment (last execution year) 1,953
Ranked 1st. 2,014
Ranked 1st. 3% more than United Kingdom
Robbery victims 1.2%
Ranked 4th. Twice as much as United States 0.6%
Ranked 16th.
Violent crime >Intentional homicide rate 1.17
Ranked 74th. 4.7
Ranked 7th. 4 times more than United Kingdom
Prisoners per 1000 1.33 prisoners
Ranked 65th. 7.02 prisoners
Ranked 2nd. 5 times more than United Kingdom
Adults prosecuted 1.57 million
Ranked 3rd. 14.2 million
Ranked 1st. 9 times more than United Kingdom
Assault victims 2.8%
Ranked 2nd. 2 times more than United States 1.2%
Ranked 9th.
Murders committed by youths per million 2.37
Ranked 59th. 29.48
Ranked 16th. 12 times more than United Kingdom
Jails per million 2.43
Ranked 63th. 5.42
Ranked 24th. 2 times more than United Kingdom
Car thefts per 1000 5.87
Ranked 5th. 35% more than United States 4.33
Ranked 11th.
 
Do you think this Sunday will see less or more deaths ?

Apparently there have been around 4000 gun deaths in the US this year.

Why is it acceptable ?

But, but, but there were 11,964 incidents yesterday when a gun was not used but still prevented a crime by its presence. Ask 2aguy, he'll document each incident.

---SARCASM ALERT---

No....I won't.....I just use the statistics researched by the Department of Justice when bill clinton was President...and when Obama told the CDC to research all of the gun crime statistics in 2013....he spent 10 million dollars of our tax money to do that.....

And they found that Americans used guns to stop crime 1,500,000 times a year....
And how many times a year are guns used in crimes? And is our crime rate significantly lower than those of France, Britain, or Australia? If it is not, then guns obviously do not stop crime.


British crime is 2X as high as our crime rate......and we experienced a 49% drop in gun murder since the 1990s....Britain just experienced a 10% increase in gun crime in London and their major cities and a 24% increase in violent crime....

We had a 75% decrease in violent crime since the 1990s...as 15 million Americans now carry guns for self defense....and we have 357-400 million guns in private hands...

You don't understand guns in this country...do you?
 
Do you think this Sunday will see less or more deaths ?

Apparently there have been around 4000 gun deaths in the US this year.

Why is it acceptable ?


Why does Britain tolerate more violence in their country than the rest of Europe and even the United States? Your gun crime rate went up 4%...after the ban...and up 10% in London and other major cities.....after the ban in 2015....

Why are you tolerating the stabbings and the shootings....?

Our gun murder rate went down 49%.....and our violent crime rate went down 75%.......yours is going up...why do you tolerate that?
Well here are the stats for 2014, seems that our murder rate per million is far greater than that of Britain.

United Kingdom vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats kingdom

Murders committed by youths per capita 0.9
Ranked 53th. 11
Ranked 14th. 12 times more than United Kingdom
Drugs > Opiates use 0.9%
Ranked 1st. 58% more than United States 0.57%
Ranked 3rd.
Rape victims 0.9%
Ranked 6th. 2 times more than United States 0.4%
Ranked 13th.
Murders with firearms per million 0.236
Ranked 44th. 32.57
Ranked 10th. 138 times more than United Kingdom
Judges and Magistrates 1,330
Ranked 24th. 29,023
Ranked 3rd. 22 times more than United Kingdom
Justice system > Punishment >Capital punishment (last execution year) 1,953
Ranked 1st. 2,014
Ranked 1st. 3% more than United Kingdom
Robbery victims 1.2%
Ranked 4th. Twice as much as United States 0.6%
Ranked 16th.
Violent crime >Intentional homicide rate 1.17
Ranked 74th. 4.7
Ranked 7th. 4 times more than United Kingdom
Prisoners per 1000 1.33 prisoners
Ranked 65th. 7.02 prisoners
Ranked 2nd. 5 times more than United Kingdom
Adults prosecuted 1.57 million
Ranked 3rd. 14.2 million
Ranked 1st. 9 times more than United Kingdom
Assault victims 2.8%
Ranked 2nd. 2 times more than United States 1.2%
Ranked 9th.
Murders committed by youths per million 2.37
Ranked 59th. 29.48
Ranked 16th. 12 times more than United Kingdom
Jails per million 2.43
Ranked 63th. 5.42
Ranked 24th. 2 times more than United Kingdom
Car thefts per 1000 5.87
Ranked 5th. 35% more than United States 4.33
Ranked 11th.


So......our criminal culture is currently more violent than Britain in that they commit more murder....but that is changing as the crime stats show....our violent crime rate went down 75%...theres is up 24%.....

Our non gun murder rate was lower than their total murder rate....

We need to change our criminals for theirs......

Criminal Culture, not guns, is the problem...and we could fix our problem if we put gun offenders in jail for 30 years....
 
You are an idiot. The so called prevention by prohibiting gun ownership is a gimmick and nothing else. Lack of understanding of life itself also. If your time is up you will go, no matter what or how. You cannot save shit dude, you don't even know for sure if you are going to be still alive a minute from now.
Wow, that was almost coherent. Care to try again?
Coherent enough to upset you....:badgrin:
The only people upset here are the ones currently falling all over each other to respond to me with something off topics, like "you're dumb" or some other witty retort.
Your attack on our unalienable right recognized by our Constitution/Bill of Rights is despicable.
The Constitution has been changed 27 times already. It's time for another update, because what's going on right now isn't working.

Some thoughts on the 2nd A.:
  • It was written and became the law of the land in the 18th Century
  • In the 18th Century blood letting was a medical treatment
  • Firearms easily afforded and maintained by the hoi polloi were single shot, "Soldiers were expected to be able to fire a shot every 15 seconds for at least 4 minutes before needing to slow down because of the fouling in the barrel. [ tactics and weapons of the American revolution ]
  • Mass murder by a muzzleloading flintlock musket was not possible in the 18th Century
 
Apparently there have been around 4000 gun deaths in the US this year.

Why is it acceptable ?

The vast majority of US gun deaths in thus,or any year are suicides, or criminal/gang related.

As such they really aren't gun related at all. They're mental health and crime related. Two things which we don't do a good job of dealing with in the USA.

What non-Americans need to understand is,that civilian gun ownership is an integral part of American history, tradition and society. Our nation was founded by men carrying private arms. The War of 1812 was largely fought with private arms. The Confederacy was largely armed with private guns. Certain Union units privately upgraded their weapons as well. Guns are part of what separate Americans from Europeans. Thats,unlikely to ever chabge.
 
Violent crime is up 24% in Britain...it is down 75% in the United States...as more Americans bought guns...as more than 15 million Americans now carry guns for self defense.....

Violent crime in England and Wales is up 24%, police figures show
You'd be safer in FUCKING UGANDA!!!!!! AND SUDAN!!!!! than you are in the US. :lmao:

Countries Compared by Crime > Violent crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com


No.....that is a lie.....you would be safer in those countries than in certain democrat voting districts in this country...since our gun crime is confined to very tiny areas of our democrat controlled cities...everywhere else is as safe as Europe...and much safer than Britain...
 
Incident | Gun Violence Archive

RIP 2 year old Ryan Morales who shot himself last Sunday. Its hard to see how unlimited gun ownership benefited this poor child.

Perhaps a gun nut could explain it to me ?


And of course......the real killer of children in the United States...cars.....yet you don't care about those dead kids...asshole...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

Death by car and gun by age, 1015...

<1.... Car 64, Gun 1

1-4.... Car 332, Gun 25

5-9.... Car 351, Gun 7

10-14.... Car 412, Gun 15

15-19.... Car 2,535, Gun 52

Total Car.... 3,694

Total Gun.... 100

The biggest single killer of children in America is Abortion on Demand.

Abortion as a means of contraception....the OP faggot of course fully supports murdering children as they slumber in the womb, the OP faggot of course hates women, but likes women who have their own children murdered because allowing them to be born would be inconvenient to their um lifestyle.

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Abortion on Demand is the single biggest killer in America in general.

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Since Abortion on Demand was made legal in 1973 thanks to the Bedwetting and Blood Lust of Leftists, nearly 60 MILLION children have been murdered as they slumber in the womb.

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So you admit that you don't even know what my point is. It's a start. Good for you. Now go back and find out, and make a serious attempt to reply with something relevant, that's written in a grown-up way.

Regressive liberal gas bag tactics.


1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.

2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies.

3. Ignore any facts presented.

4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.

5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence.

6. Employ misdirection,

6a. smear people

6b. attack religion

7. Lie, make false assumptions

8. Play race/gender card

9. Play gay/lesbian card

10. Play the Nazi/Fascist card

11. Make up stuff

12. Deny constantly

13. Reword and repeat

14. Pretending not to understand when they have been posting about it for days.

15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.
 
Wow, that was almost coherent. Care to try again?
Coherent enough to upset you....:badgrin:
The only people upset here are the ones currently falling all over each other to respond to me with something off topics, like "you're dumb" or some other witty retort.
Your attack on our unalienable right recognized by our Constitution/Bill of Rights is despicable.
The Constitution has been changed 27 times already. It's time for another update, because what's going on right now isn't working.

Some thoughts on the 2nd A.:
  • It was written and became the law of the land in the 18th Century
  • In the 18th Century blood letting was a medical treatment
  • Firearms easily afforded and maintained by the hoi polloi were single shot, "Soldiers were expected to be able to fire a shot every 15 seconds for at least 4 minutes before needing to slow down because of the fouling in the barrel. [ tactics and weapons of the American revolution ]
  • Mass murder by a muzzleloading flintlock musket was not possible in the 18th Century


And after 1917 Europe allowed 12 million of their citizens to be murdered by the German socialists.......because those civilians were unarmed .........your point?
 

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