Lest we forget...

The only land grabbers and squatters are the Jews. But you know that.





Do explain as the legal sovereign owners of the land invited the Jews to migrate and colonise the land. Not once but twice, two separate legal sovereign land owners invited the Jews to migrate. The second enacted an international law that gave the land to the Jews, so how are they squatters on land that is legally theirs ?


But you don't want to know that as it destroys your POV
 
I am a citizen and a civilian I reject the idea that if I protect home and family I would be classified as a militant who could be killed without consequence.

Wait. Wait. Does that mean you expect to be able to fight and not have any consequences for fighting -- including be shot back at?

Does that mean you expect to be immune from warfare even if you are a combatant?






NO he wants it wer the rules don't apply to the Jews and they can be shot at by him or anyone else just for being Jews.
 
I am a citizen and a civilian I reject the idea that if I protect home and family I would be classified as a militant who could be killed without consequence.

Wait. Wait. Does that mean you expect to be able to fight and not have any consequences for fighting -- including be shot back at?

Does that mean you expect to be immune from warfare even if you are a combatant?
If I shoot at a burglar, how should that change my status as a civilian?




It doesn't, unless you are military, then different rules apply. But firing at the military or police in a war zone of your creation makes you a combatant. ( the Palestinians declared war on Israel remember )
 
LOL

OK so you can't lie your way out and can't admit when your wrong so you post a few GIFs and run . Thats perfect.

Best we Forget this nonsense about phony Arab Muslim hasbara

Apparently its only defense is a few silly GIFs

Still making things up I see, only to be expected from a Zionist Hasbarist when they have nothing to back up their propaganda fantasies.
Yeah, right.
 
montelatici, et al,

Oh WOW! You're such a philistine.

You have no education. You just spout Hasbara propaganda.
(COMMENT)

My advise is that you directed commentary more towards the content and position being presented rather than
directed against toward a person making the presentation.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Phoenall said:
DO explain as Israel was not in existence when the IDF was formed ?

*sigh* Proof, if any more were needed that Phoney’s just here to make noise and run interference.

Phoney knows nothing about this topic; just rehashes what others have written. Hey Phoney, the Zionist paradise was declared 14th May 1948 and the IDF was created 26th May 1948.
 
montelatici, et al,

Oh WOW! You're such a philistine.

You have no education. You just spout Hasbara propaganda.
(COMMENT)

My advise is that you directed commentary more towards the content and position being presented rather than
directed against toward a person making the presentation.

Most Respectfully,
R

PUI?

"My advice is that you direct commentary more towards the content and position being presented rather than toward a person making the presentation." There, fixed it for you.

Thanks for the definition of "Ad hominem", we get so much of that from the Zionut crowd, though I think we know what it means.
 
I think the evidence that a massacre was not the intent is weak, for several reasons.

Please. They sent a warning. They allowed people to flee both before and during the combat. 85% of the populace survived the attack. The evidence against a "massacre" is strong.

I'm not questioning that Irgun and Lehi didn't commit terrorist attacks. They clearly did. Nor do I reject the idea that they were quite willing to kill people in order to further their cause. But I reject the idea that they intended, generally, to kill the populace of the village of Deir Yassin in this particular event. (Thus, a "massacre").

And I reject the idea that commemorating the event does anything other than to bury the nuances of the event and the times during which the event occurred and mythologize the event in order to sell a narrative which serves a current purpose -- to infect (as Rocco so articulately put it) the next generations with the idea that Israel (the Jewish people) have no respect for Arab lives. Rather than framing it as one of many battles during the war, in which people, including innocents, tragically, lost their lives.


They would have encountered some resistance - after all, the village was being attacked despite a pact of non-aggression.

This, to me, indicates that it was a combat rather than a massacre. Why does it not suggest so to you?
Typical Israeli combat. Military attack on civilians. Same as it is today.








Typical islamonazi propaganda ignoring the truth so you can demonise the Jews. Prove they were civilians and not militia, terrorists, extremists and soldiers ?
I am a citizen and a civilian I reject the idea that if I protect home and family I would be classified as a militant who could be killed without consequence.






Firing illegal weapons at your enemies children is not defence, it is a war crime that will result in you being targeted by your enemy under current IHL and the rules of war. Once you overstep the fine line between defence and aggression you become a combatant. That is made very clear by the UN, ICRC, ICC, ICJ and Geneva conventions. If you have a problem take it up with these bodies and tell them you don't want to abide by their rules anymore.
Firing illegal weapons at your enemies children is not defence, it is a war crime...​

I agree.

Children killed since 2000
Israeli 131
Palestinian 1656

Remember These Children 2000 Memorial
 
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I am a citizen and a civilian I reject the idea that if I protect home and family I would be classified as a militant who could be killed without consequence.

Wait. Wait. Does that mean you expect to be able to fight and not have any consequences for fighting -- including be shot back at?

Does that mean you expect to be immune from warfare even if you are a combatant?
If I shoot at a burglar, how should that change my status as a civilian?




It doesn't, unless you are military, then different rules apply. But firing at the military or police in a war zone of your creation makes you a combatant. ( the Palestinians declared war on Israel remember )
It is Israel that puts its war zones in Palestinian neighborhoods.

So you have foreign troops attacking civilians.

How can you call that a war?
 
montelatici, et al,

Oh WOW! You're such a philistine.

You have no education. You just spout Hasbara propaganda.
(COMMENT)

My advise is that you directed commentary more towards the content and position being presented rather than
directed against toward a person making the presentation.

Most Respectfully,
R

The word is "advice" not "advise.

I suggest you offer your advice to your friend Hollie who initiated the personal attacks and was responded to in kind.
 
Please. They sent a warning. They allowed people to flee both before and during the combat. 85% of the populace survived the attack. The evidence against a "massacre" is strong.

I'm not questioning that Irgun and Lehi didn't commit terrorist attacks. They clearly did. Nor do I reject the idea that they were quite willing to kill people in order to further their cause. But I reject the idea that they intended, generally, to kill the populace of the village of Deir Yassin in this particular event. (Thus, a "massacre").

And I reject the idea that commemorating the event does anything other than to bury the nuances of the event and the times during which the event occurred and mythologize the event in order to sell a narrative which serves a current purpose -- to infect (as Rocco so articulately put it) the next generations with the idea that Israel (the Jewish people) have no respect for Arab lives. Rather than framing it as one of many battles during the war, in which people, including innocents, tragically, lost their lives.


This, to me, indicates that it was a combat rather than a massacre. Why does it not suggest so to you?
Typical Israeli combat. Military attack on civilians. Same as it is today.








Typical islamonazi propaganda ignoring the truth so you can demonise the Jews. Prove they were civilians and not militia, terrorists, extremists and soldiers ?
I am a citizen and a civilian I reject the idea that if I protect home and family I would be classified as a militant who could be killed without consequence.






Firing illegal weapons at your enemies children is not defence, it is a war crime that will result in you being targeted by your enemy under current IHL and the rules of war. Once you overstep the fine line between defence and aggression you become a combatant. That is made very clear by the UN, ICRC, ICC, ICJ and Geneva conventions. If you have a problem take it up with these bodies and tell them you don't want to abide by their rules anymore.
Firing illegal weapons at your enemies children is not defence, it is a war crime...​

I agree.

Children killed since 2000
Israeli 131
Palestinian 1656

Remember These Children 2000 Memorial

I'm afraid the above speaks to the heart of the conflict.

Arab-Moslem terrorists and their enablers and supporters presume an entitlement to wage acts of war against a sovereign state without consequences.

What a shame that Arab-Moslem terrorists use their dead children as islamo-trophies.
 
I am a citizen and a civilian I reject the idea that if I protect home and family I would be classified as a militant who could be killed without consequence.

Wait. Wait. Does that mean you expect to be able to fight and not have any consequences for fighting -- including be shot back at?

Does that mean you expect to be immune from warfare even if you are a combatant?
If I shoot at a burglar, how should that change my status as a civilian?




It doesn't, unless you are military, then different rules apply. But firing at the military or police in a war zone of your creation makes you a combatant. ( the Palestinians declared war on Israel remember )
It is Israel that puts its war zones in Palestinian neighborhoods.

So you have foreign troops attacking civilians.

How can you call that a war?
Sorry, but israeli doesn't put or establish war zones anywhere. Israeli strikes are directed at threats such as islamic terrorists firing rockets. It's your islamic terrorist heroes who establishment the "war zones". As we know, your Islamic terrorist heroes use civilian areas as places to wage acts of war. How lucky for you that women and children are in the war zones your islamic terrorist heroes create. It provides you the opportunity to use those civilians caught in the crossfire as cheap propaganda.
 
Jew terrorists their enablers and supporters presume that waging war and oppressing Muslims and Christians through blockades and occupation will not result in a defensive response.

What a shame the Jew terrorists target non-Jewish children in an attempt to quell a people's resistance to Jew aggression.
 
Jew terrorists their enablers and supporters presume that waging war and oppressing Muslims and Christians through blockades and occupation will not result in a defensive response.

What a shame the Jew terrorists target non-Jewish children in an attempt to quell a people's resistance to Jew aggression.
How lucky for you that you have the opportunity to plagiarize my comments. I understand you have difficulty stringing words together to form coherent sentences.
 
I am a citizen and a civilian I reject the idea that if I protect home and family I would be classified as a militant who could be killed without consequence.

Wait. Wait. Does that mean you expect to be able to fight and not have any consequences for fighting -- including be shot back at?

Does that mean you expect to be immune from warfare even if you are a combatant?
If I shoot at a burglar, how should that change my status as a civilian?




It doesn't, unless you are military, then different rules apply. But firing at the military or police in a war zone of your creation makes you a combatant. ( the Palestinians declared war on Israel remember )
It is Israel that puts its war zones in Palestinian neighborhoods.

So you have foreign troops attacking civilians.

How can you call that a war?
Sorry, but israeli doesn't put or establish war zones anywhere. Israeli strikes are directed at threats such as islamic terrorists firing rockets. It's your islamic terrorist heroes who establishment the "war zones". As we know, your Islamic terrorist heroes use civilian areas as places to wage acts of war. How lucky for you that women and children are in the war zones your islamic terrorist heroes create. It provides you the opportunity to use those civilians caught in the crossfire as cheap propaganda.
You are a hoot.

You have Israel's bullshit talking points down pat.:clap::clap::clap:
 
Wait. Wait. Does that mean you expect to be able to fight and not have any consequences for fighting -- including be shot back at?

Does that mean you expect to be immune from warfare even if you are a combatant?
If I shoot at a burglar, how should that change my status as a civilian?




It doesn't, unless you are military, then different rules apply. But firing at the military or police in a war zone of your creation makes you a combatant. ( the Palestinians declared war on Israel remember )
It is Israel that puts its war zones in Palestinian neighborhoods.

So you have foreign troops attacking civilians.

How can you call that a war?
Sorry, but israeli doesn't put or establish war zones anywhere. Israeli strikes are directed at threats such as islamic terrorists firing rockets. It's your islamic terrorist heroes who establishment the "war zones". As we know, your Islamic terrorist heroes use civilian areas as places to wage acts of war. How lucky for you that women and children are in the war zones your islamic terrorist heroes create. It provides you the opportunity to use those civilians caught in the crossfire as cheap propaganda.
You are a hoot.

You have Israel's bullshit talking points down pat.:clap::clap::clap:
I had no doubt that you would retreat from any attempt to address my comments.
 
... It wasn't one person alone. Each person's word carries equal weight until it's proven false, silly little man.
Yeah, so, how much weight do palistanians, lying like porn stars, carry?
The same weight as an Israeli's word.
How so? As Benni Morris, for instance, notes "The Palestinian Authority (PA) has emerged as a virtual kingdom of mendacity, where every official, from President Arafat down, spends his days lying to a succession of western journalists. The reporters routinely give the lies credence equal to or greater than what they hear from straight, or far less mendacious, Israeli officials. One day Arafat charges that the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) uses uranium-tipped shells against Palestinian civilians. The next day it’s poison gas. Then, for lack of independent corroboration, the charges simply vanish – and the Palestinians go on to the next lie, again garnering headlines in western and Arab newspapers."
 
... It wasn't one person alone. Each person's word carries equal weight until it's proven false, silly little man.
Yeah, so, how much weight do palistanians, lying like porn stars, carry?
The same weight as an Israeli's word.
How so? As Benni Morris, for instance, notes "The Palestinian Authority (PA) has emerged as a virtual kingdom of mendacity, where every official, from President Arafat down, spends his days lying to a succession of western journalists. The reporters routinely give the lies credence equal to or greater than what they hear from straight, or far less mendacious, Israeli officials. One day Arafat charges that the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) uses uranium-tipped shells against Palestinian civilians. The next day it’s poison gas. Then, for lack of independent corroboration, the charges simply vanish – and the Palestinians go on to the next lie, again garnering headlines in western and Arab newspapers."

Each individual's word is worth the same weight until proven false - then they lose all credibility. It's not rocket science.

As I recall...Israel flat out lied about using White Phospherous....until finally the evidence forced them to admit it. Lies...lies...lies...
 

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