Let Me Get This Straight About Impeachment Over Trump's Ukraine Phone Call

[Faun]

So let me see if I understand the Democrats' position on this: Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid from Ukraine if Ukraine did not fire the prosecutor who was investigating the Ukrainian company that was paying Biden's drug-using, Navy-discharged-for-drug-use son Hunter $50K per month--and that's no big deal, nothing to see here. But, Donald Trump's request to Ukraine that Ukraine investigate the suspicious, apparently corrupt firing of that prosecutor is an impeachable offense!

Can you imagine what Democrats would be saying if Trump had a troubled son, if that troubled son were hired by a Ukrainian company for the amazing salary of $50K per month (even though the son possessed no job skills that would justify such a salary), if a Ukrainian prosecutor began to investigate the company that was paying Trump's troubled son such an exorbitant salary, if Trump then threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid to Ukraine if the prosecutor weren't fired, and if Ukraine then fired the prosecutor? They would justifiably argue that this smelled to high heaven of corruption.

So the Democrats want to impeach Trump because he wanted Ukraine to investigate what clearly appears to have been a case of corruption involving Joe Biden, his son, and the Ukrainian company, and the previous Ukrainian government that fired the prosecutor.

/———/ Breaking: RUSH: Fox News just moments ago — like an hour and a half ago — revealed that “a newly unearthed document,” a newly unearthed document “shows that Ukrainian officials had already opened a new probe into Hunter Biden and his firm months before Trump’s phone call with the president of Ukraine.” It was John Solomon that ferreted this out.

LOLOL

Sure, and it's written with a sharpie.

 

[Faun]

Which he has to uphold within the confines of the law. For example, while he is securing the border, he can't just order unarmed border crossers be shot and killed. According to your idiocy, he can violate the law and do so anyway because it could fall under the category of security.

dont change the subject,,,

and someone else brought up a point that biden is not running for office, he is running for the dem nomination,,,
so all you excuses are irrelevant,,,

I changed nothing. I gave you an example of why you're a moron. And the primaries are part of the election process. You're beyond moronic to think it's perfectly legal for a president running for re-election can use their office to eliminate competition at any point in the election process.

And to demonstrate that Bided is indeed a threat to Trump's campaign, Trump just released an ad to bash Biden. Something he wouldn't have wasted a done on if he didn't want Biden out of the race, even at this time.

the primaries are a private election of private parties not affiliated with the fed gov,,,unless of course you can show where in the constitution they exist???

and based on what we see so far biden isnt even a contender

Biden is campaigning for the 2020 presidential election. He's eligible to run in it even if the Democrat party doesn't nominate him.

then that means I am running for POTUS and cant be investigated by the feds for any reason

No, that's not what that means.

But thanks for reminding me how fucked in the head you brain-dead cons are.

 

[Olde Europe]

So Trump is the only person on the face of the Earth who could get Zelensky to investigate Biden??

Sounds like you think Trump is a god.

Let's say, Trump is one of not all that many who think prosecuting someone at the direction of a politician pursuant political aims is not only commendable, but a valid part of an anti-corruption crusade - rather than the epitome of corruption.

Okay, I sort of fibbed saying there are not that many. It would seem his entire base is perfectly willing to swallow that turd.

 

[Cellblock2429]

So Trump is the only person on the face of the Earth who could get Zelensky to investigate Biden??

Sounds like you think Trump is a god.

Let's say, Trump is one of not all that many who think prosecuting someone at the direction of a politician pursuant political aims is not only commendable, but a valid part of an anti-corruption crusade - rather than the epitome of corruption.

Okay, I sort of fibbed saying there are not that many. It would seem his entire base is perfectly willing to swallow that turd.

/——/ You know Billy Clintooon signed a treaty with Ukraine to cooperate on corruption investigations. Trump is following the law.

 

[dblack]

So Trump is the only person on the face of the Earth who could get Zelensky to investigate Biden??

Sounds like you think Trump is a god.

Let's say, Trump is one of not all that many who think prosecuting someone at the direction of a politician pursuant political aims is not only commendable, but a valid part of an anti-corruption crusade - rather than the epitome of corruption.

Okay, I sort of fibbed saying there are not that many. It would seem his entire base is perfectly willing to swallow that turd.

/——/ You know Billy Clintooon signed a treaty with Ukraine to cooperate on corruption investigations. Trump is following the law.

Step back from this a couple of steps, and imagine your sixth grader were giving you these kinds of excuses. Would you buy it? Or would you send them to their room without dinner?

 

[busybee01]

No they don't. You have to have some kind of suspicious activity to open a investigation. Barr is Trump's toady AG and he can't find a reason to open a investigation.

so they charge people with a crime and then investigate if the crime happened???
you are one dumb mother fucker

You are the dumb motherfucker. You have to see some kind of suspicious activity to open a investigation. You don't just say "I am going to open a investigation on someone today."

and how do you know that didnt happen???

or are you on the inside in washington and ukrain??

There is no investigation of Biden in Washington or Ukraine. If there were Trump would not be demanding a investigation.

how would you know that???
and when did trump call for one???

then why do you keep complaining about an investigation without charges being filed???

He called for one on the call and called for a investigation by China and Ukraine on the White House lawn. China sees this for what it is. They are not going to get involved in domestic politics.

 

[busybee01]

No they don't. You have to have some kind of suspicious activity to open a investigation. Barr is Trump's toady AG and he can't find a reason to open a investigation.

so they charge people with a crime and then investigate if the crime happened???
you are one dumb mother fucker

You are the dumb motherfucker. You have to see some kind of suspicious activity to open a investigation. You don't just say "I am going to open a investigation on someone today."

Yet idiot libs seem to be the ones doing it...go figure, dumbass.

You are the idiot. Mueller's report alone has 10 potential cases of obstruction of justice.

potential means nothing except you got nothing but think you do,,,

That is why Mueller wanted Congress to conduct further investigations.

 

[busybee01]

So Trump is the only person on the face of the Earth who could get Zelensky to investigate Biden??

Sounds like you think Trump is a god.

Let's say, Trump is one of not all that many who think prosecuting someone at the direction of a politician pursuant political aims is not only commendable, but a valid part of an anti-corruption crusade - rather than the epitome of corruption.

Okay, I sort of fibbed saying there are not that many. It would seem his entire base is perfectly willing to swallow that turd.

/——/ You know Billy Clintooon signed a treaty with Ukraine to cooperate on corruption investigations. Trump is following the law.

You really think people are stupid enough to believe that. You are the stupid one.

 

[busybee01]

Trump withheld the military aid before the phone call. That action was the threat and then he said we give you a lot of money and we want you to investigate Biden.

We don't even know who the whistleblower is and you are assigning bias. The fact is that the whistleblower's complaint has been proven. Trump is corrupt. He hires lobbyists to oversee the areas they lobbied in and sometimes the companies they worked in. Trump's rise to power and Hitler's rise to power were similar. Both scapegoated groups of people by using xenophobia.

thats not what trump said or what happened,,

and the WBers complaint has been proven wrong,,, you need to find another source for you info,,,

You are dense.
1. Trump withholds military aid to Ukraine
2. Trump tells Ukrainian President the US gives a lot of money to Ukraine
3. Trump asks for investigation of Biden even though there is no US investigation and Hunter Biden is under no suspicion of having broken any Ukrainian laws

The threat is clear.

when did he ask for an investigation into the bidens??? and how would you know if the US is investigating anyone let alone hunter???
and so far no one has accused hunter of committing any crimes,,,
and he is withing his authority to withhold money,,and it never came up in the phone call because thats not why he did,,

you have to broaden your sources ,,,

"when did he ask for an investigation into the bidens???"

Dayum, you brain-dead cultists sure do sport wood for Trump.

There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it.​

that is well withing his authority, he is POTUS after all,,,and as an american citizen I demand that he follow up on it,,,
not his fault joe thought running for office would protect him

Take your demand and shove it up your ass. Trump is the crook.

 

[busybee01]

And asking for an investigation by a foreign government of an American citizen who happens to a political opponent of the President...is illegal

Withholding aid to force that to happen makes it doubly as bad

That is extortion and abuse of power

Gee, withholding aid to force someone to be fired is extortion and bragging about it is fricken idiotic...dumbass.

Forcing a corrupt prosecutor out before you turn over a billion dollars is common sense dumbass.

 

[busybee01]

I'm crazy because you can't fucking read?

No, you're crazy because I already posted the law which does describe the criminal wrongdoing you idiotically claim is missing; AND the definition of "contribution" which shows Trump broke the law.

What you quoted was an FEC website. That is NOT the law, dumbass.

Moron, this is the law I posted...

§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or​

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.​

The red text highlights your error. There was nothing of value exchanged. NOTHING!

The information requested was in accordance with a criminal investigation of corruption, and had to do with Biden's son, and not Biden. The fact that Biden may have used his influence to stop the investigation of his son is the crime, and being a political opponent does not absolve him of responsibility, nor make it a "thing of value".

You libtards lump them together, so it is your error that is causing your confusion.

It was the Obama Administration that made the decision not Biden. There is no criminal case of corruption open in the US or Ukraine. He was not requesting assistance. He was demanding that Ukraine and China open a investigation for no reason whatsoever. Even the Chinese are smarter than you or Trump are. They refused to get involved because they know Trump is playing politics.

 

[busybee01]

No, you're crazy because I already posted the law which does describe the criminal wrongdoing you idiotically claim is missing; AND the definition of "contribution" which shows Trump broke the law.

What you quoted was an FEC website. That is NOT the law, dumbass.

Moron, this is the law I posted...

§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or​

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.​

The red text highlights your error. There was nothing of value exchanged. NOTHING!

The information requested was in accordance with a criminal investigation of corruption, and had to do with Biden's son, and not Biden. The fact that Biden may have used his influence to stop the investigation of his son is the crime, and being a political opponent does not absolve him of responsibility, nor make it a "thing of value".

You libtards lump them together, so it is your error that is causing your confusion.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck....

"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."​

You need to seek out professional help with your lack of reading comprehension.

I said, "The fact that Biden may have used his influence to stop the investigation of his son is the crime, and being a political opponent does not absolve him of responsibility, nor make it a "thing of value"."

Why are you claiming I am wrong, when I stated that as fact?

You get dumber by the post! Go get a Q-tip and shove it in your ear. If you see brown stuff, it is obviously the shit you have for brains leaking out!

Seek medical attention!

A former Ukraine prosecutor confirms that Hunter Biden was never under investigation and has broken no Ukrainian laws. The investigation into Burisma was closed before Hunter Biden became a board member. You are the one who is as dumb as a post and a lying weasel to boot.

 

[busybee01]

Moron, this is the law I posted...

§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or​

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.​

The red text highlights your error. There was nothing of value exchanged. NOTHING!

The information requested was in accordance with a criminal investigation of corruption, and had to do with Biden's son, and not Biden. The fact that Biden may have used his influence to stop the investigation of his son is the crime, and being a political opponent does not absolve him of responsibility, nor make it a "thing of value".

You libtards lump them together, so it is your error that is causing your confusion.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck....

"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."​

You need to seek out professional help with your lack of reading comprehension.

I said, "The fact that Biden may have used his influence to stop the investigation of his son is the crime, and being a political opponent does not absolve him of responsibility, nor make it a "thing of value"."

Why are you claiming I am wrong, when I stated that as fact?

You get dumber by the post! Go get a Q-tip and shove it in your ear. If you see brown stuff, it is obviously the shit you have for brains leaking out!

Seek medical attention!

LOL

Holyfuckingshit

You calling your claim a "fact" does not make it a fact.

Trying to eliminate candidates from the same election one is running in -- benefits their campaign. That makes it a "thing of value."

So, if I run for president, I cannot be prosecuted because doing so will be seen as a "thing of value" to my opponent?

Do you realize how stupid you are?

Prosecuted for what. There has to be a reason for opening a investigation.

 

[busybee01]

So, if I run for president, I cannot be prosecuted because doing so will be seen as a "thing of value" to my opponent?

Of course not. You can be prosecuted for anything. The issue here is the sitting President using the power of their office to dig up "dirt" on an opponent. You people turning a blind eye to this for spurious, partisan reasons are really fucking this country in the ass with your idiocy.

The real problem here isn't that Trump's actions weren't impeachable. It's that Democrats spent the bulk of their political capital on the Russian nonsense (and similar nothing-burgers) and now that they finally have their smoking gun, they're the boy who cried wolf.

If Biden or his son committed a crime, it is not "dirt", dumbass!

Sure it is, dipshit.

So we just ignore the crime? You are definitely brain-damaged.

There is no crime. You are the brain damaged Trump supporter.

 

[busybee01]

What part of, a president is not above the law, don't you understand?

and the law says he is responsible for our security,,,

Which he has to uphold within the confines of the law. For example, while he is securing the border, he can't just order unarmed border crossers be shot and killed. According to your idiocy, he can violate the law and do so anyway because it could fall under the category of security.

dont change the subject,,,

and someone else brought up a point that biden is not running for office, he is running for the dem nomination,,,
so all you excuses are irrelevant,,,

I changed nothing. I gave you an example of why you're a moron. And the primaries are part of the election process. You're beyond moronic to think it's perfectly legal for a president running for re-election can use their office to eliminate competition at any point in the election process.

And to demonstrate that Bided is indeed a threat to Trump's campaign, Trump just released an ad to bash Biden. Something he wouldn't have wasted a done on if he didn't want Biden out of the race, even at this time.

the primaries are a private election of private parties not affiliated with the fed gov,,,unless of course you can show where in the constitution they exist???

and based on what we see so far biden isnt even a contender

Biden is leading in around 6 states beyond the margin of error. Warren is leading in 0 states beyond the margin of error. Sanders is leading in 0 states beyond the margin of error.

 

[progressive hunter]

so they charge people with a crime and then investigate if the crime happened???
you are one dumb mother fucker

You are the dumb motherfucker. You have to see some kind of suspicious activity to open a investigation. You don't just say "I am going to open a investigation on someone today."

and how do you know that didnt happen???

or are you on the inside in washington and ukrain??

There is no investigation of Biden in Washington or Ukraine. If there were Trump would not be demanding a investigation.

how would you know that???
and when did trump call for one???

then why do you keep complaining about an investigation without charges being filed???

He called for one on the call and called for a investigation by China and Ukraine on the White House lawn. China sees this for what it is. They are not going to get involved in domestic politics.

man you dems are running scared,,, just wait until it all comes out that it was the dems that colluded in 2016,,,

youre toast,,,

 

[Faun]

You are the dumb motherfucker. You have to see some kind of suspicious activity to open a investigation. You don't just say "I am going to open a investigation on someone today."

and how do you know that didnt happen???

or are you on the inside in washington and ukrain??

There is no investigation of Biden in Washington or Ukraine. If there were Trump would not be demanding a investigation.

how would you know that???
and when did trump call for one???

then why do you keep complaining about an investigation without charges being filed???

He called for one on the call and called for a investigation by China and Ukraine on the White House lawn. China sees this for what it is. They are not going to get involved in domestic politics.

man you dems are running scared,,, just wait until it all comes out that it was the dems that colluded in 2016,,,

youre toast,,,

LOLOL

Oh? What's gonna come out about Dems colluding in 2016....?

 

[Thinker101]

so they charge people with a crime and then investigate if the crime happened???
you are one dumb mother fucker

You are the dumb motherfucker. You have to see some kind of suspicious activity to open a investigation. You don't just say "I am going to open a investigation on someone today."

Yet idiot libs seem to be the ones doing it...go figure, dumbass.

You are the idiot. Mueller's report alone has 10 potential cases of obstruction of justice.

potential means nothing except you got nothing but think you do,,,

That is why Mueller wanted Congress to conduct further investigations.

Gee, have you ever heard the term "dead in the water"....that would be Mueller's report.

 

[Lesh]

In Trump land...you attack people who get rid of corrupt prosecutors...

 

[Lesh]

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