Let's face it: America kind of sucks

[Billy000]

So...what country ya movin' to?

Lol I love how you guys say this and expect me to think “oh gee he sure showed me!”

 

[Missourian]

Yes, it should.

The cost is often based upon what is available and the location. The more to do and the better the location the more the cost.

Bass Pro Headquarters, the NRA firearm Museum, and Springfield Cardinals Minor League Baseball...shit...who would trade that for whatever they have in Oslo.

 

[Missourian]

Lol I love how you guys say this and expect me to think “oh gee he sure showed me!”

Cuz it does.

"Damn...it sucks here so bad that I cannot wait to stay!"

Doesn't sound very logical does it.

 

[BackAgain]

Republicans like to pretend that the US is the best country in the world in every way because they cannot stand the thought of other countries doing something better than us. However, the main flaws the US has are much of less of issues in other first world countries.

1) Our healthcare system is garbage with or without ObamaCare.

Republicans like to harp on ObamaCare and pretend that it is rhe reason why our system sucks, but when you ask them the simple of question of "well, was our system good before ObamaCare?", they will refuse to answer. Secretly they know that our healthcare system has always sucked but they will not admit that out loud. But hell, at least ACA improved it to some degree. Republicans secretly like the idea of their healthcare coverage not being denied because of pre-existing conditions, but its another thing they will not admit out loud. Obama came up with it so the knee jerk reaction is that it is terrible.

I also want to point out the myth that republicans have about other first world healthcare systems. They pretend that wait lists run rampant for basic care and that these people suffer. That's of course not true. Systems in Western Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea are all quite high functioning even if they are not perfect.

Here's all the ways comparable, first world national healthcare systems are superior to the US's:

A. Life expectancy is better
B. Premature death rates are lower.
C. Less suffering with long term chronic diseases
D. Healthcare quality and access is far better
E. Maternal morality rates are better.
G. Hospital rates are lower for chronic diseases.
H. Post-operative complications are lower in prevalence.
I. Medication and procedure errors are lower.

And oh yeah, this is thanks to socialized medicine rather than shitty for-profit healthcare very few people can afford.

Now you say that the US does have state of the art treatments in some examples, but this hardly matters if the large majority of the population does not have access to this ridiculously expensive care and the overall nation suffers in areas where it matters most.

How does the quality of the U.S. health system compare to other countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

Despite spending more money per capita on healthcare than any similarly large and wealthy nation, the United States has a lower life expectancy than peer nations and has seen worsening health outcomes since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. This chart collection combines various measures of...

www.healthsystemtracker.org

2. Infrastructure systems are better in comparable nations.

A. The US ranks 13th in infrastructure quality in the world.
B. Only 2% of our GDP spending goes to infrastructure.
C. Airports in other countries are better.
D. High speed rail in the US is half of the speed of comparable countries.
E. Internet connection is much better in other countries.
F. Our roads are shitty in comparison to these other nations. Traffic jams are less severe in such nations.

That's far from "American exceptionalism." Hell, Biden gets credit for at least passing a law making improvements even if it was not enough.



3. Gun violence in the US is far greater than in other countries like Australia, the UK, and Canada.

A. Mass shootings are far more common in the US than other politically stable countries.
B. Gun murders account for 79% of all murders in the US. In Canada it is 37%, Australia 13%, and the UK is 4%
C. Gun deaths per capita are FAR higher than in other countries.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

4) Wealth inequality is one of the worst in the world.

In 2020, the top 20% of the population earned 52.2% of all U.S. income. The median household income fell significantly for the first time since 2011 to $67,521. That's 2.9% down from 2019's number. The richest of the rich, the top 5%, earned 23% of all income.

The Cause of Income Inequality in America

U.S. income inequality has worsened significantly in the past 30 years. What does income inequality look like in the United States and what are the causes?

www.thebalance.com

5) Poverty rates are lower in other counties.

Denmark, Finland, and Sweden are proof that poverty in the US doesn't have to be this high

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Conclusion: America kind of sucks. I know inevitably the response I am going to get to this thread will be somewhere along the lines of "if you don't like it here, leave!" Well see the truth of the matter is that I think America is great in some ways and I would rather stay here and fix what is wrong with it.

No. But you suck. Massively. Fuck off, troll.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Do you think Americas death rates and such suck because Americans LOVE fast food, cigarettes and alcohol?

That and minority culture of violence brings down our life expectancy. It will only get worse as America browns

 

[gipper]

No. But you suck. Massively. Fuck off, troll.

Stop posting. You're too ignorant for an intelligent debate.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

That and minority culture of violence brings down our life expectancy. It will only get worse as America browns

You're kidding, right?

 

[BackAgain]

Stop posting. You're too ignorant for an intelligent debate.

Stop breathing. You’re too stupid to share our oxygen. I can recommend a fine Fire-AIDS for you. Ask for it by name.

 

[gipper]

Lol I love how you guys say this and expect me to think “oh gee he sure showed me!”

This country does suck. Of course it’s not the fault of the R Party, though they’ve contributed. This country is not the country I was born in. Massive changes have occurred. The biggest problem is our government, which is completely controlled by wealthy oligarchs who have no interest in improving the lives of Americans.

 

[BackAgain]

Stop posting. You're too ignorant for an intelligent debate.

You’re such a low life worthless diseased rancid twat, you likely agree with your fellow retard troll who wrote that scumbag OP. Fuck off, gimp.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You're kidding, right?

Does our black and brown population bring our collective lifespan up or down?

 

[gipper]

Stop breathing. You’re too stupid to share our oxygen. I can recommend a fine Fire-AIDS for you. Ask for it by name.

You have to be the dumbest MFer on this forum and that’s quite a feat.

 

[BackAgain]

This country does suck. Of course it’s not the fault of the R Party, though they’ve contributed. This country is not the country I was born in. Massive changes have occurred. The biggest problem is our government, which is completely controlled by wealthy oligarchs who have no interest in improving the lives of Americans.

Please stop that breathing you’re doing. Your sharing other people’s oxygen supply. You selfish scumbag.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

Does our black and brown population bring our collective lifespan up or down?

It doesn't do anything statistically noticeable, and for you to think that is pretty fucked up. I found a guy at work to become buddies with. He's black. I'm white. So far we go to work and fist bump each other, and we send each other memes, and we're starting to become good friends. He's a conservative.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This country does suck. Of course it’s not the fault of the R Party, though they’ve contributed. This country is not the country I was born in. Massive changes have occurred. The biggest problem is our government, which is completely controlled by wealthy oligarchs who have no interest in improving the lives of Americans.

I honestly don't understand how a single liberal could tolerate loving here another second. Seriously, they need to move to any of those countries that are so much better than this backward nation of rednecks, white trash and hillbillies.

 

[BackAgain]

You have to be the dumbest MFer on this forum and that’s quite a feat.

Not even close. There’s you, for example.. And there’s a host of other complete libtards like you. So, gfy. Now, stop breathing. You selfish rancid twat.

 

[francoHFW]

LMAO ^^^ why the irrational left must be defeated.

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why, dipstick dupe?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

He's black. I'm white. So far we go to work and fist bump each other, and we send each other memes, and we're starting to become good friends. He's a conservative

He's one of the 5%.

Here's a statistic:
Of the four race-sex groups considered, black males have the shortest average longevity—69.0 years
while white Americans are expected to live an average of 78 years

 

[gipper]

I honestly don't understand how a single liberal could tolerate loving here another second. Seriously, they need to move to any of those countries that are so much better than this backward nation of rednecks, white trash and hillbillies.

It’s not easy to leave your country of birth. How does one leave family and friends? Their job? Immigrating to new nation has all sorts of problems. Language being a big one. Plus if you pick the wrong country that manages to get in the cross hairs of the empire, you might end up getting bombed, droned, or tortured.

 

[francoHFW]

I honestly don't understand how a single liberal could tolerate loving here another second. Seriously, they need to move to any of those countries that are so much better than this backward nation of rednecks, white trash and hillbillies.

Just brainwashed...remain calm. Plus, you can't move there unless you're a doctor or millionaire. Just shows your politics are duperie...Pubs are great people beside the dangerous Murdoch brainwash....